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Due to massive computer problems my contributing will not be very frequent over the coming weeks. I do have an iPhone from which I can edit... but it's not nearly as convenient. Bear with me, and I'll contribute when possible.

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Michael William Balfe (1808–1870) was an Irish composer, best remembered for his operas. Balfe was born in Dublin and grew up on Pitt Street, which was renamed Balfe Street in 1917 in his honour. After moving to Wexford with his family as a child, he began a career as a violinist, moving to London in 1823 after his father's death, later relocating again to Italy and Switzerland, where he married the Hungarian-born singer Lina Roser. Balfe began pursuing an operatic singing career as well as composition, and moved back to London with his family in 1835. In a career spanning more than 40 years, he composed at least 29 operas, almost 250 songs, several cantatas, and other works. He was also a noted conductor, directing Italian opera at Her Majesty's Italian Opera House for seven years, among other conducting posts. His most notable opera is The Bohemian Girl, which continues to be performed. This photograph of Balfe was taken by the studio of the French photographer Nadar; this albumen print was made in 1900.Photograph credit: Nadar; restored by Adam Cuerden Archive – More featured pictures...

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Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Croatia/Participants

You are added on this list. If this is mistake you can delete your name from this list.--Rjecina (talk) 00:39, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Point taken. Sorry for mistake--Rjecina (talk) 04:15, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Glutton

The major problem I see is the complete and utter disregard for finding sources for information. Every article I see (take Serbs of Croatia) attempts to throw in the same historical information without sources and everyone wastes time figuring out ways to get their spin in different places. For examples, the history section in Serbs of Croatia should be a history of the movements of Serbian people into the Croatian land, not the same history that's repeated everywhere, each one with a different set of people trying to spin it their own ways. The only solution I see if some admin just goes in and strip every single article of everything without a source (like I tried here as people sat around saying "I think he's Serbian, no he's not") lock the pages and block people for screwing around. If everyone had to prove a source for their arguments, the whole thing would be a lot better off. Then, everyone is on the same page. Right now, it's just a game of who can bring in the most sock and meat puppets for their random spin until they drive the other side off. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 02:59, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

My draft of Freemasonry in NA article

Thanks for your comments AniMate... I know my draft does not include sources yet... that's why it is in my user space as a draft and not yet posted as an article. :>)

More importantly, thanks for spending a bit of time to look at the articles in question and give a neutral, third party view of their flaws and how to correct them. Blueboar (talk) 12:24, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

The Political Cesspool

My user talk page isn't the place for you two to hash out your political disagreements. A ni Mate 21:54, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Discussion closed.
I don't know how to use Misplaced Pages too well so I apologize in advance if I'm using this feature the wrong way. With that said, feel free to keep an eye on The Political Cesspool page. The same person (probably one of their own staff members) keeps vandalizing the page into his version of it with no sources as opposed to the version that we want to keep it as. Rock8591 03:04, 17 September 2008 (UTC) - - - - - True, I got your recent message. I think Winston's recent attempts to drastically change the content of the page would be considered vandalism, which is why I reverted the page back to its original state give the way the page is and has been for a while. Rock8591 07:59, 18 September 2008 (UTC) Except for possibly one instance, there is nothing in what I wrote that could be considered offensive or incorrect, and I am willing to modify that one instance. My article offers a benign and matter-of-fact definition as to The Political Cesspool’s content, hosts, and history, whereas the truly offensive article relies on sources that are mere opinions and knee-jerk declarations of extremist and hateful organizations (the SPLC and Media Matters). The only proof offered to support the assertion that I am Harold Covington is from the SPLC (which later re-hashed their original article sans the false assertion that I am Covington). Anyone who has researched the issue knows that Covington lives somewhere in the northwestern U.S., whereas my live presence on the show clearly proves that I live in the Millington, TN area. Since Misplaced Pages is supposedly so "big" on citing sources, Misplaced Pages should demand that the SPLC article provide proof and sources for my "real identity" before allowing it to be cited as an authoritative source. The SPLC provides neither proof nor sources; they simply declare it, falsely. And Misplaced Pages gladly perpetuates the falsehood. As long as Misplaced Pages continues to perpetuate the false association between myself and Covington, Misplaced Pages perpetuates its de facto association with the SPLC - an association that seriously undermines Misplaced Pages's credibility and benefits only the nefarious SPLC. The basis for the SPLC falsely claiming and Misplaced Pages ignorantly perpetuating the lie that I am Covington is the fallacious notion that Smith families ceased to name their sons “Winston” after 1948. There is no reason whatsoever for men to not be named Winston Smith, and there are many of us so-named. Here are just a few: http://www.outreach.olemiss.edu/events/compass_group/speakers.html http://umasshoops.com/history/alumni/smith_winston/ http://www.drexeldragons.com/News/mbball/2008/7/16/WSmith-COBO.asp?path=mbball http://www.presbyweb.com/2002/Letters/011803.htm http://www.dep.state.fl.us/secretary/news/2004/tal/epa_letter.pdf http://www.auburn.edu/~lakwean/johnnyray_history_smitht.html http://www.rwu.edu/depository/publicaffairs/ishmael_beah_092507.pdf http://www.themq.com/index.php?articles_id=260&issue=114 http://www.sctrucking.org/index.php?option=com_alphacontent&Itemid=305&section=15&sort=1&limit=25&limitstart=75 http://www.epa.gov/ttn/oarpg/t3/memoranda/orgsolve.pdf http://www.hofstra.edu/Athletics/WBasketball/ath_wbb_gameresult.cfm?gameID=A655BB7C-9B1C-4CB7-9D769B204023B634 http://gvcwinstar.net/about_executive.htm http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20000221/business/b1.html So much for Rock8591’s recommendation, “In that case, I advise you to Google this up and you'll find plenty of agreement that "Winston Smith" is Harold Covington.” Such shoddy “research method” proves that Rock8591 is also an unreliable source, especially when you remember that all the allegations that I am Covington are merely repetitions of the unproven and un-sourced SPLC declaration. Following his “logic” that a Google search constitutes proof, I could just as legitimately Google “Jews” and conclude that Jews are the most odious creatures on Earth (something that I absolutely do not believe). After all, a Google search of the word results in lots and lots of articles disparaging Jews; apparently, there's plenty of agreement. Regarding our guest list, having a guest on the show for an interview does not necessarily mean or imply that we agree with that guest’s opinions. I have interviewed many guests with whom I strongly disagree. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer interviewed David Duke; in fact, CNN has an huge guest list of people with whom it disagrees in varying levels of disparity. And just as it is unfair to assume CNN’s agreement with its guest, it is equally unfair to assume our agreement with our guests. I do not wish to be associated with Harold Covington, and I doubt he wants to be associated with me. One person on the discussion page wisely and fairly suggests, “The host Winston Smith is not Harold Covington. The Southern Poverty Law Center reprint the article that made that claim later without the claim. It is speculation that Winst Smith is not this individual's real name. Until someone can confirm, which the SPLC has not and cannot, what this individual name is, it is best to omit attempting to identify him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.104.83.3 (talk) 21:34, 19 August 2008 (UTC)” I demand that Misplaced Pages correct the lie it is perpetuating. And I object to Misplaced Pages allowing only the opinions and unproven declarations of political hacks and race-baiting hate-mongers to define us, just as Misplaced Pages, the SPLC, Media Matters, and Rock8591 would object to me defining them without their participation. "And just as it is unfair to assume CNN’s agreement with its guest, it is equally unfair to assume our agreement with our guests." Winston, that is patently false and you are well aware of it. I've listened to a few episodes of your show before and you have shown tremendous agreement with your guests, oftentimes throwing insults to a greater degree than your guests do. e.g. when you interviewed Randy Gray back in January. Rock8591 02:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC) (Ah, the old red herring. . .proof of defeat. . .) I prefer red herring with dill sauce, if you don't mind, but I'll deal with yours nonetheless. "Oftentimes" hardly means "every time". The Randy Gray interview was about the kidnapping, torture, rape, and murder of Channon Christian and Chris Newsome, not about Randy Gray’s other activities or beliefs. Regardless of what you think of Mr. Gray, what he said about Channon, Chris, and the murderers was true, and I agreed with him because I agree with the truth. And the truth is there is no description too shocking to depict the horror of what Channon and Chris endured, and there is no imprecation too severe to call down upon the perpetrators who so heinously violated them. (Maybe you would care to revise the Misplaced Pages entry on Channon and Chris to read, "What they went through really wasn't that bad, and the murderers they insulted are actually fine, upstanding, and misunderstood model citizens.") Agreeing with Randy Gray is by far better than agreeing with Morris Dees, which you obviously do, despite Dees being almost universally recognized as a charlatan, not to mention what we know about him from his divorce proceedings. But, he's obviously "your guy." In the future, skip the red herring and stick to the topic, if you can. In case you need a reminder, the topic is the lies in your Misplaced Pages article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.253.96 (talk) 13:29, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Discussion closed.

I don't know how to use Misplaced Pages too well so I apologize in advance if I'm using this feature the wrong way.

With that said, feel free to keep an eye on The Political Cesspool page. The same person (probably one of their own staff members) keeps vandalizing the page into his version of it with no sources as opposed to the version that we want to keep it as. Rock8591 03:04, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

- - - - -

True, I got your recent message. I think Winston's recent attempts to drastically change the content of the page would be considered vandalism, which is why I reverted the page back to its original state give the way the page is and has been for a while. Rock8591 07:59, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Except for possibly one instance, there is nothing in what I wrote that could be considered offensive or incorrect, and I am willing to modify that one instance. My article offers a benign and matter-of-fact definition as to The Political Cesspool’s content, hosts, and history, whereas the truly offensive article relies on sources that are mere opinions and knee-jerk declarations of extremist and hateful organizations (the SPLC and Media Matters).

The only proof offered to support the assertion that I am Harold Covington is from the SPLC (which later re-hashed their original article sans the false assertion that I am Covington). Anyone who has researched the issue knows that Covington lives somewhere in the northwestern U.S., whereas my live presence on the show clearly proves that I live in the Millington, TN area. Since Misplaced Pages is supposedly so "big" on citing sources, Misplaced Pages should demand that the SPLC article provide proof and sources for my "real identity" before allowing it to be cited as an authoritative source. The SPLC provides neither proof nor sources; they simply declare it, falsely. And Misplaced Pages gladly perpetuates the falsehood. As long as Misplaced Pages continues to perpetuate the false association between myself and Covington, Misplaced Pages perpetuates its de facto association with the SPLC - an association that seriously undermines Misplaced Pages's credibility and benefits only the nefarious SPLC.

The basis for the SPLC falsely claiming and Misplaced Pages ignorantly perpetuating the lie that I am Covington is the fallacious notion that Smith families ceased to name their sons “Winston” after 1948. There is no reason whatsoever for men to not be named Winston Smith, and there are many of us so-named. Here are just a few:

http://www.outreach.olemiss.edu/events/compass_group/speakers.html

http://umasshoops.com/history/alumni/smith_winston/

http://www.drexeldragons.com/News/mbball/2008/7/16/WSmith-COBO.asp?path=mbball

http://www.presbyweb.com/2002/Letters/011803.htm

http://www.dep.state.fl.us/secretary/news/2004/tal/epa_letter.pdf

http://www.auburn.edu/~lakwean/johnnyray_history_smitht.html

http://www.rwu.edu/depository/publicaffairs/ishmael_beah_092507.pdf

http://www.themq.com/index.php?articles_id=260&issue=114

http://www.sctrucking.org/index.php?option=com_alphacontent&Itemid=305&section=15&sort=1&limit=25&limitstart=75

http://www.epa.gov/ttn/oarpg/t3/memoranda/orgsolve.pdf

http://www.hofstra.edu/Athletics/WBasketball/ath_wbb_gameresult.cfm?gameID=A655BB7C-9B1C-4CB7-9D769B204023B634

http://gvcwinstar.net/about_executive.htm

http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20000221/business/b1.html

So much for Rock8591’s recommendation, “In that case, I advise you to Google this up and you'll find plenty of agreement that "Winston Smith" is Harold Covington.” Such shoddy “research method” proves that Rock8591 is also an unreliable source, especially when you remember that all the allegations that I am Covington are merely repetitions of the unproven and un-sourced SPLC declaration. Following his “logic” that a Google search constitutes proof, I could just as legitimately Google “Jews” and conclude that Jews are the most odious creatures on Earth (something that I absolutely do not believe). After all, a Google search of the word results in lots and lots of articles disparaging Jews; apparently, there's plenty of agreement.

Regarding our guest list, having a guest on the show for an interview does not necessarily mean or imply that we agree with that guest’s opinions. I have interviewed many guests with whom I strongly disagree. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer interviewed David Duke; in fact, CNN has an huge guest list of people with whom it disagrees in varying levels of disparity. And just as it is unfair to assume CNN’s agreement with its guest, it is equally unfair to assume our agreement with our guests.

I do not wish to be associated with Harold Covington, and I doubt he wants to be associated with me. One person on the discussion page wisely and fairly suggests, “The host Winston Smith is not Harold Covington. The Southern Poverty Law Center reprint the article that made that claim later without the claim. It is speculation that Winst Smith is not this individual's real name. Until someone can confirm, which the SPLC has not and cannot, what this individual name is, it is best to omit attempting to identify him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.104.83.3 (talk) 21:34, 19 August 2008 (UTC)” I demand that Misplaced Pages correct the lie it is perpetuating. And I object to Misplaced Pages allowing only the opinions and unproven declarations of political hacks and race-baiting hate-mongers to define us, just as Misplaced Pages, the SPLC, Media Matters, and Rock8591 would object to me defining them without their participation.

"And just as it is unfair to assume CNN’s agreement with its guest, it is equally unfair to assume our agreement with our guests." Winston, that is patently false and you are well aware of it. I've listened to a few episodes of your show before and you have shown tremendous agreement with your guests, oftentimes throwing insults to a greater degree than your guests do. e.g. when you interviewed Randy Gray back in January. Rock8591 02:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

(Ah, the old red herring. . .proof of defeat. . .)

I prefer red herring with dill sauce, if you don't mind, but I'll deal with yours nonetheless. "Oftentimes" hardly means "every time". The Randy Gray interview was about the kidnapping, torture, rape, and murder of Channon Christian and Chris Newsome, not about Randy Gray’s other activities or beliefs. Regardless of what you think of Mr. Gray, what he said about Channon, Chris, and the murderers was true, and I agreed with him because I agree with the truth. And the truth is there is no description too shocking to depict the horror of what Channon and Chris endured, and there is no imprecation too severe to call down upon the perpetrators who so heinously violated them. (Maybe you would care to revise the Misplaced Pages entry on Channon and Chris to read, "What they went through really wasn't that bad, and the murderers they insulted are actually fine, upstanding, and misunderstood model citizens.") Agreeing with Randy Gray is by far better than agreeing with Morris Dees, which you obviously do, despite Dees being almost universally recognized as a charlatan, not to mention what we know about him from his divorce proceedings. But, he's obviously "your guy."

In the future, skip the red herring and stick to the topic, if you can. In case you need a reminder, the topic is the lies in your Misplaced Pages article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.253.96 (talk) 13:29, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

It was stuff that I myself added. I prefer discussion in the Talk page of that article though, as opposed to our user talk sections for more details. Rock8591 23:18, 25 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rock8591 (talk • contribs)

In appreciation of a job well done

		The Rescue from Deletion Barnstar
		In appreciation of your excellent research and editorial skills that resulted in the preservation of the article Steve Brown (yo-yo player). Job well done! Ecoleetage (talk) 16:27, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I would be seriously remiss in not paying tribute to very fine work that you accomplished in saving this article. Thanks and be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 16:27, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

My pleasure. I look forward to seeing more of your work. If your schedule permits, perhaps you can look at this item that I just began as a stub: . If you have any suggestions expanding it, I would be appreciative. Be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 20:37, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm...something weirder than a museum in a nursing home? Okay, I will tighten my thinking cap and report back with appropriately eccentric material. Many thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 10:22, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

P.S. I don't know if you observe this, but if you do...Happy Rosh Hashanah. Ecoleetage (talk) 10:30, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

reply

It was constructive. Every time it is mentioned in the news that issue is brought up, so the article should mention it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.153.182.241 (talk) 18:26, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Secret Invasion

Thanks for backing me up on this edit. It's much appreciated.Shin-Goji —Preceding undated comment was added at 00:00, 28 September 2008 (UTC).

Sarah's marathon

I agree completely with your removal of the marathon - I was struggling to find a place for it while removing some utter nonsense from the section. Thanks Tvoz/talk 07:06, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

There's always the Weekly Reader. Tvoz/talk 07:26, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

I try. Especially at 3AM. Tvoz/talk 08:35, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Presumptive

I thought you would like to know, it was User:Dereks1x all along! Sticky Parkin 13:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Not surprised in the least. Hope his account burns in Wikihell. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 02:32, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Onelifefreak2007

<sheepish grin> Oops. Sorry. I DID step over the line. His reactions were amusing to me, which is why I kept goading him. I'm done with him, I promise. BassPlyr23 (talk) 11:52, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Sarah

Yo Dude

I haven't found anything else on Justis leaving the role of Sarah Roberts on the show except that one article, I don't know if that is true unless I hear it from Soaps.com. It might be true and it might not. I don't think it is true but who knows. How do you get your name like to do two different links. P.J. (talk) 02:14, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Miroslav Filipović

I am having 1 interesting source about this monster and his children killings . In my thinking there is no point in adding similar sources because my arguments will always be defeated without clear reasons.--Rjecina (talk) 11:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Forgive any old vandalism?

Should we forgive any vandalism if it is old?

At first, I thought the vandalism was just an honest mistake. If it were, the user would say so. He nasty to me and denies making the edit even though the diff is clear, he did.

That's why I think the person needs to be blocked so we can check his work. He might be hiding sneaky vandalism with hundreds of grammatical corrections. Fossett&Elvis (talk) 20:34, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

This revert...

...deleted all contributions from 79.176.224.2 (talk · contribs) that we discussed in the Request for comment about Jasenovac extermination camp. You seemed to have been of the opinion that they should stay. SWik78 (talk • contribs) 23:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much!

You made my evening wonderful with your award! Thank you! --Enzuru 00:22, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

RfA

Hi AniMate! Thank you very much for your support and insight in my RfA, which passed yesterday. I hope not to let you and the others down and use the tools for the benefit of the project. Cheers, Ynhockey 19:34, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Hi AniMate, and thanks for supporting my successful request for adminship. It was nice to see all the kind comments I got from my supporters and I hope that I will be more useful to the community now that I have the tools again.--Berig (talk) 15:22, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Anaheim Hills, Anaheim, California

I noticed you made an edit to Anaheim Hills, Anaheim, California earlier today removing a substantial amount of text. The information you removed was important and relevant to the article. I noticed your edit summary was "removing copyvio", can you tell me where you found this text elsewhere or how you know it's copied? Thanks! Grant (talk) 05:19, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I just started watching the Anaheim Hills article and I wanted to make sure your edit was legitimate. I'm going to try and clean up this article a bit over time. Right now, the language it uses doesn't fit in Misplaced Pages at all. It reads like it's a marketing brochure for the area. Grant (talk) 06:07, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I really wish I hadn't just read the archives of that talk page. ;-) Sounds like a boat-load of no fun trying to improve that article. Oh well, I've already started editing it, and I can't stop now! Grant (talk) 06:37, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Ancient Persian problems

You recently contributed to an AfD discussion on an article about ancient Persian history. I have been reviewing the contributions of the editors who have been involved in these and other related articles, and have found a considerable number of issues - bad writing, original research, lack of sourcing or citations, and POV problems. I have posted the results of my review at User:ChrisO/Ancient Persian problems (it's a work in progress, as I'm still going through the contributions). Please feel free to add to it as you see fit and leave any comments at User talk:ChrisO/Ancient Persian problems. I would be interested in any feedback that you might have. Thanks in advance.

Thanks for suggesting that to me AniMate, thats actually a good point, so thanks.--Ariobarza (talk) 04:04, 7 November 2008 (UTC)Ariobarza talk

Appreciate what you are doing...

I appreciate that you have decided to mentor Ariobarza, and that you are assuming her to be a good-faith editor. I just wanted to know that I respect you for that decision. I do hope it works out well for both of you and if I can be of any help please let me know. For the record I am a fairly new user myself (6 mos) and still learning my way around, but I also believe her to be a good-faith editor and hope you can help her be a good one as well. :) Tundrabuggy (talk) 04:21, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I thank you from the bottom up, for you have decided to be my mentor. I read every sentence you wrote me on my talk page, and I consider it correct and from now one I pledge to consult you before any notable edits and follow the policy rules and guidelines of Misplaced Pages from now on. Finally I consider and hope you promise me that if we are ever going to make a page called, "Campaigns of Cyrus the Great," it should be made as a last resort if none of Cyrus's battles deserve their own articles. Second, if their are certain articles that are too vague, then we should only include the vague battles, and not try to jam it with well sourced articles, which would make "Campaigns" article gigantic. So do you agree, and promise? With best thanks.--Ariobarza (talk) 09:24, 8 November 2008 (UTC)Ariobarza

--Animate, thanks for your note on my talk page. I agree in principle with everything you said. I do have a question for you. Do you have any expertise, knowledge or interest in the era of Cyrus the Great and the available archeological evidence of those times? I would appreciate some objective eyes on a couple of articles mentioned on Chris' subpage, not the battles except maybe Opis, but the ones bemoaned as "POV-pushing", ie Cyrus the Great & Cyrus Cylinder. If you have some spare time...and the interest. Tundrabuggy (talk) 02:38, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

AniMate I just remembered... I have a request, could you please recover Siege of Kapisa, and paste (with all the sources and links, like <ref-> stuff ext...) the article here User:Ariobarza/Siege of Kapisa (so I can complete it with sources before I ask you if I can recreate the article), I do not care about the talkpage, I'll make talkpage with new information. Thank you soo much!--Ariobarza (talk) 04:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)Ariobarza talk

AniMate, I thank you for your request, but just a reminder. I have a hectic month ahead, that is why I made so many battles in my user space, just in case the real life articles are to be deleted. I suggest if you do not have to work on other articles and have some free time to spare on Misplaced Pages, you can keep adding cited sentences from the books already there and more, whether in my user space or in the real article, but I suggest the user space is the best place to make changes to articles that are about to be deleted soon. So I put them in my user space so no one can delete it for a long time, I hope, as they should ask me first politely. So my appearance on Misplaced Pages for the next month will be on a 'on' and 'off' basis. But for now I agree to only expand Battle of the Marsyas, as doing this one step at a time is the right thing to do, as you suggested. So whenever I come on Misplaced Pages we can work together to expand the article, and like I said before, if you have free time, your welcomed to contribute to it. Many thanks.--Ariobarza (talk) 23:34, 9 November 2008 (UTC)Ariobarza talk

Siege of Kapisa

I've userified this. dougweller (talk) 10:39, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Fan fiction vandal

I am so damn tired of that fan fiction vandal, and I have not ran into/reverted him or her that much either, but I see this vandal has done this to way more soap opera character articles than I thought. One of the main problems in stopping this person is the drastically different IP addresses in which this person is using to add this fan fiction stuff to these fictional character articles. Therefore, we cannot easily block this vandal (even though the block would be temporary, anyway), and the changing IP address of this vandal makes it difficult to keep up with the articles he or she is vandalizing, unless it is a specific article we have on our watchlists or come across. In fact, these drastically different IP addresses makes me think it is at least two people from the same fanfiction site or some kind of collaboration that has now become annyoing for Misplaced Pages due to this vandal or vandals. Flyer22 (talk) 12:24, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I take back this vandal being difficult to block. He or she seems to use the 24.97.214.237 IP address consistently enough. But the 168.169.134.43 IP address was also used for fan fiction to the Todd Manning article, and probably more, which is why I figured it is the same vandal with changing IP addresses. If this guy or girl strikes again, which will most likely be under the 24.97.214.237 IP address, we definitely need to block. Flyer22 (talk) 12:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

LOL, Reese Williams and Bianca Montgomery

You don't feel that they are referred to by their couple nicknames that much yet? What, you want to wait until they are a better known couple first? Flyer22 (talk) 17:19, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

re: Elekstra Bladet

OI understand were you're coming from re: Elekstra Bladet. maybe it was a little too hast yo in removing the tgag but i have been noticsing a disturbing trend in which poeple put tags on articles and then dont even mak ea token atmept t at resolving the issues that claimed to have notice. For in this exmaple, there was a POV tag pissed on an articfle re: a moderately-well known (within Danemark) newspaper Ekstra Bladet. My view is that it is valid to remov a tag as long as i am wiling to devote the time to reserach and revise the aritcle to in my view eliminate the issues depicted in this tag. It was m yintension to do so immediately before removing the tag, but conectivity issues re: my Internet connection disabled my acess until just now. I respect your poitn in that removing the tag was probably a istake and I should have obtained conesnus but I hope you can understnad why I Am coming from and why I feel that substantial revision is more valid an aproach to criticsm of wikiepdia than simply hurrying in, throwing up a bunch of tags, and then leaving iwtiout even making a stab at revising the issues brought to be abear the by the presence of the tag. Smith Jones (talk) 03:27, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to the LGBT WikiProject!

Hi, AniMate, welcome to WikiProject LGBT Studies!

We are a growing community of Misplaced Pages editors dedicated to identifying, categorizing, and improving articles regarding lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT) and intersex people. LGBT Studies covers people, culture, history, and related subjects concerning sexual identity and gender identity - this covers a lot of ground and your help is appreciated! Some points that may be helpful:

Our main aim is to help improve articles, so if someone seeks help, please try to assist if you are able. Likewise feel free to ask for help, advice or clarification.
Many important discussions take place on the project's main discussion page; it is highly recommended that you watchlist it.
If you have another language besides English, please consider adding yourself to our translation section, to help us improve our foreign LGBT topics.
The project has several ongoing and developing activities, such as article quality assessment, peer review and a project-wide article collaboration, all of which you are welcome to take part in. We also have a unique program to improve our lower quality articles, Jumpaclass, so please consider signing up there.
If you're going to stay awhile, please create a square in our project quilt! You can put anything you want in it.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you.

And once again - Welcome!

-- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 05:28, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

BLP

The Arbitration Committee decided a while ago that the BLP policy also applies to dead people, despite the name. I was a bit cynical at first, but I think it was a good call; dead people have living relatives, and there's still a problem with including dubious and offensive material in articles even if the subject themselves have died. Rebecca (talk) 04:36, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I can't remember the exact case - it was either earlier this year or late last year, and trying to use Google to filter through them isn't working very well. I'm sure one of the arbs who was actually sitting at the time would be able to tell you. But yes, though I was a bit cynical at first about extending a policy specifically about living persons to the dead, I do think it was a smart decision in hindsight. Rebecca (talk) 04:50, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

um

You really thinking of taking me to a topic ban. Open your eyes! If you knew what was going on, you wouldn't believe the lies on that page, they just keep exxagerading things. READ all my comments, specially the new, I do care what you do to that article anymore, bye! I added it was a LOW KEY SEIGE, AND IT WAS IN PYHRYGIA, everything else was put there by others, and Siege of Gordium, was made by the actual creator, and now I HAve kept an open mind, while everyone was going to delete, now people are finding sources for it! If you want to help, then help me.--Ariobarza (talk) 23:47, 17 November 2008 (UTC)Ariobarza talk

My Rfa

AniMate, thank you very much for participating in my Rfa, which was successful with 80 Support, 5 Oppose, 6 Neutral. The comments were overwhelming, and hopefully I can live up to the expectation of the community.

I would also like to thank my nominator Realist and my co-nom Orane (talk), and special mention to Acalamari and Lenticel for the kindness from the start. Regards, Efe

--Efe (talk) 10:10, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Did you hear the one about the rabbi in Uganda?

Hey, Happy Thanksgiving! Here is an offbeat new stub that I came upon that I thought would be of interest: Gershom Sizomu, a rabbi in Uganda. I didn't know they could get a minyan in Uganda, let alone a rabbi, but the story behind this is quite interesting. The stub is pretty bare -- is this something you'd be interested in helping to flesh out? Hope all is well. Ecoleetage (talk) 04:24, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

User:I am Mario followup

Following User:I am Mario's threats to Jimbo last month, he seemed to have continued so I've finished indefinitely blocked him here. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:03, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Actually at this point, I don't think anyone other than the new IPs aren't blocked at Template_talk:The_Holocaust. We've had 3 or 4 people blocked within a few days last month. Of course, Rjecina as usual is just ignoring them (Washington IPs so just another blanket assumption of being a sock) which means that they will edit war, someone will eventually create a login, the warring will continue, someone will block, and the cycle begins anew. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:53, 5 December 2008 (UTC)