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*Articles for Deletion

Please don't blank pages that have been placed on AfD; it stifles discussion. Grobertson 09:04, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

on CBG

from the various page histories, but my reverting your blankings but not responding to yr msg on my talk was not intentional rudeness; i noticed the former almost immediately, but it actually took overnite before i realized you'd left me a msg.
_ _ I'm pretty sure the AfD passed its 5-plus-days quota last nite, but i'm not going to be the one to call the result: IIRC, it's two rock-solid Dels, one shaky Keep, and (with your de facto change of vote) one on each side by two newcomers whom almost any admin would discount. IMO, a noncontroversial Delete result, but still, close enuf to the 2:1 borderline that, in the context of my role in the high emotion, i want to be Caesar's wife. But i will try to facilitate someone's calling it promptly, after which it will fade from attention even more quickly than if you kept blanking it (which would get your acct blocked & draw attention to it).
_ _ (At present, both the AfD and the article rank 0 on my Google tool-bar, but it's probably not even been crawled yet. Isaac Fanous, which underwent a big AfD fuss 11 months ago, is a 3 out of 10, but Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Isaac Fanous is by now a 0 despite all the User-contributions pages that lk to it. I think you can count on the AfD coming onto Google as a 1 or 0 and fading quickly to 0; it is lk'd (other than Special pages like contribs) only from the article and the AfD day-page, which will soon be lk'd only from some user sub-pages and other progressively more obscure pages. The article in question (i make a pt here of not lk'g to it!) will be visible only to admins who go looking for it, once deleted (which, as i've implied, seems ensured).)
--Jerzy•t 17:19, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

You wrote on my talk:

== Per your comment on Brian0918's page: ==
  • No worries about bringing me further grief. My posting the article in the first place was nothing more than the misguidedness of a newbie. The sooner the better for it to come down, in my opinion. It does not matter to me who deletes it, I have saved the text and may forward it to the people who put up christopherbgibson.com a couple months ago. (Hope that will not violate any wikipedia copyright rules protecting deleted content). --Daniel Lotspeich 02:05, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

_ _ That is comforting, and i won't do anything further to hasten resolution; it will get called sooner or later (presumably as "consensus to delete"), tho backlogs do build up.
_ _ On the other hand, i'm concerned not to set any potential bad examples, and your go ahead doesn't really ensure not being perversely cited as a precedent for some third party's bad behavior.
_ _ Don't be concerned about using an old revision; the only problem with using anything within an article's history of revisions is if it includes material that was neither original to the editor nor in the public domain -- and then, using it is no tort against WP, but only against the copyright holder. (The only relevance re old revisions can i think of is that when we find out about a copyvio, we may make a new revision by removing the protected material from the current revision, w/o necessarily removing from the history all the revisions that included that protected material.) (BTW, just in case you care, WP holds no copyrights on contributions to the articles; IIRC, technically the contributor retains the copyright but gives up virtually all the rights that copyright is supposed to protect. I've never read the license, but i think it's something like you give everyone in the world the right to contest, as if on your behalf, any third party's claim that they have a copyright to the material.)
--Jerzy•t 03:53, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Canadian Fleabane

    • Sorry but you are too quick off the mark. Connyza canadensis is not Connyza equisiteum although they are similar and sometimes confused. Both have been called Horseweed. I was trying to draw attention to the difference. ping 07:49, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Remember This One

Hawk a poozeler fare tha do- You wrote that Pooter Cobb ( which is slang for "cornhole" which should be a deletable user name) what was that all about? you obviously have 2 ids which makes one a sockpuppett.

**Pooter Cobb was a character in a story by Christopher Burke Gibson recently deleted from wikipedia for lack of notability. I did indeed post "Hawk a poozler" and "fare thee do" I also posted "now everyone allemande" as all three were expressions of Pooter Coob (Urban Trapper). These were all posted as graffiti on Chris' site prior to it being taken down. Something of an inside joke that Mr Gibson would have found hysterically funny (may he rest in peace). Regarding the slang term: that had escaped me and I will no longer sign anything with that name. As for the sock-puppet: the user page and talk page both redirect to my userpage (which I did after abandoning the pootercobb site). I have also subsequently requested deletion of the pootercobb user and talk page. Hope this explains things for you well enough.--Daniel Lotspeich 19:13, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Speaking of sock-puppets, user:219.93.174.101, who am I speaking to? --Daniel Lotspeich 19:41, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
    • I can't think of where it's discussed at the moment, but if you prefer (and if can can convince someone who knows how to do it that you are indeed the owner of both usernames, probably by leaving two messages saying so, one edited with each of the two of the usernames), the edits by one can be re-attributed to the other. (However, that's entirely up to you; there's no obligation to do so.)
      --Jerzy•t 00:33, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
  • The anon IP above should consult WP:SOCK, in order to become aware that WP's critique of sockpuppetry focuses not on that status per se, but on the use of socks in voting. Unless i missed something, there is no reason to point this one out.
    --Jerzy•t 00:33, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
    • The above IP should also note that its address is linked to some rather less innocent incidents of vandalism than my posting "Haw-a-poozler" randomly on some non-notable site. Check out the contribution log associated with that address.Daniel Lotspeich 01:01, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

56 Aquilae

Thank you for reconsidering. --Merovingian (t) (c) (e) 04:19, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

The above talkpage items are copied from my previous username Daniel Lotspeich. This username has been abandoned (in case any questions of sockpuppetry or other misdoings may come about). I'm looking to establish myself as a contributing member of the community here...

--Gaff 21:43, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Bio's

Bio's are allowed on peoples Talk pages, just not in the main Misplaced Pages namespace. Ëvilphoenix 19:51, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

I was wondering

...does my signature look bad or something; I may change it back or do something with it.File:Smilie.gifMolotov File:Caranimationforvmolotov.gif (talk)
 -No...it looks kinda cool in a funky way. Maybe a little busy. I had read something about overly involved signatures slowing pages down, but not sure how much there is behind that.--Gaff 04:18, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Take this deletionist barnstar for your work on VfDs

Take care, Molotov (talk) File:Caranimationforvmolotov.gif
04:30, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thank you! --Merovingian (t) (c) (e) 06:00, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Votes to Create

I don't know if this AFD comment was meant to be tounge-in-cheek or not, but I think it might not be that bad an idea, actually. Would certainly help reduce vanity article creation, I'd think, and certainly cut down on lists. The Literate Engineer 06:35, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

  • Not really tongue in cheek at all. I've read some of Jimi Wales stuff on the future of WP and it seems that AFD is a major problem at the moment. I love it that WP is readily accessible to everyone with an internet hookup. I love it that its open-source. Still, it seems that placing some restriction (at least a restriction that new articles need be placed by people with an actual username and not just anonymously) could seriously curtail the spam and vanity and patent nonsense that I see taking up loads of time on AFD that would be better focused on improving the solid but less than ideal articles already in place.--Gaff 06:45, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
    • As someone who has created about 600 articles, including about 100 in 2 days, "votes to create" is a very bad idea. It would likely be much worse than VFD is now, in terms of backlog. — BRIAN0918 • 2005-10-15 16:46
    • Point taken.--Gaff 16:55, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
      • I think they should simply create a set of articles on every possible subject, up front, and then let the a-nones fill them in as they see fit. Meanwhile, where is the Yale University "Boola Boola" song on that list? Wahkeenah 16:59, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
        • You mean "Boola Boola" has not been written yet?!--Gaff 17:04, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
          • I just now added it. Since they're going to delete the page anyway, it's no harm. However, I don't get why they would delete this trivial but factual page, while retaining and stubbornly defending the tabloid junk article about whether we went to the moon or not. Wahkeenah 17:18, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Welcome

Hi, Gaff, nice to see you again. I'm not sure whether i bear a big responsibity for your sense of, uh, needing to try another foot; should i ask more about this? In any case, i of course welcome the change, if it helps you to feel at home. I'm hard enough to listen to that inviting you to ask for information may not amount to a friendly gesture (!), but please feel free. Looking forward to your participation,
--Jerzy•t 11:58, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Future of Misplaced Pages

On AFD I spotted a comment where you mentioned reading stuff by Jimmy Wales on the future of Misplaced Pages, and in particular AFD. Where can I find this - I'd be interested to see what he has to say on the subject. Cheers! 23skidoo 12:17, 15 October 2005 (UTC) (please reply on my talk page - thanks!)

Vonnegut / Twain

If you don't think it's true, delete it. Wahkeenah 12:32, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Hold the phone. Go into google and enter "kurt vonnegut" "mark twain" "resemblance" and you will get several hits, independent of, and prior to, my entry... and stated even more strongly, such as these: Should I add these citations to the article? Wahkeenah 12:49, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Never mind, I'll do it. Wahkeenah 13:01, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Poe vandal

I moved your comments from the anon user's main page to their talk page. I assume thats where you wanted them to go. I had already test1'ed them for the vandalism, but its good to see other people watching out for Poe. :) --Syrthiss 13:28, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Gaff

I bet your late friend had more verifiable notability than the claims that we didn't go to the moon. Wahkeenah 18:04, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Picture of the Day

Awesome. No wonder they say the hippo is the most dangerous animal in Africa. That guy could take a bite out of a Cape Buffalo any day. Wahkeenah 18:08, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages

Yes, yes it is. The best part, though, is that your style can be part of our style... --Αλεξ Σ 18:35, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thanks for the E=mc^2 barnstar--Rayc 19:52, 15 October 2005 (UTC)