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Mrs. Jonat, please check Szopen/TreatingSource and Szopen/HREargument



HJ, are you seriously suggesting that Napoleon and the Book of Revelation have something to do with understanding modern European history? That he was the first to 'takeover' Europe? The first to destroy pre-existing kingdoms? --MichaelTinkler


To MichaelTinkler

I look at all sources and the Book of Revelation speaks of 1000 year occurances. There are many things happening that are not easily explained by scientific method. In other words many more things happen, than people rationally can understand.

I am open .

{{H. Jonat]]


No. All of this is quite easily accessible to rational understanding. The book of Revelation in chapter 20 speaks of A 1000 years. One. Just one. The idea of 1000 year periods is an early Christian interpretation of the Book of Revelation in light of Psalm 90 ("For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night") in which the 6 days of creation plus the original day of rest (the 7th day) are compared to 7 millennia - and the idea is that the millennium of the book of Revelation will be the 7th, so that the transition between the 6th and the 7th will be the time of the antichrist. This was cross-referenced with the belief that the world was a fairly recent creation - that it was about 5500 years old when Christ was born, and therefore the year 6000 (the time of the antichrist) was coming SOON. Needless to say, it hasn't happened yet. I know a lot about this subject - it is my favorite kind of medieval exegesis. You, however, either have never known or have misremembered. My suggestion is that you drop it, or take a look at the work of Richard Landes (here's his web page: http://www.mille.org/people/rlpages/personlandes.html). --MichaelTinkler


To MichaelTinkler

I glanced through the headlines and see that people are making studies of this.


Before the year 2000 people thought it is the time , as they thought before the year 1000. In 1800 people thought that is it , in 1900 they thought this is it and before 2100 they will think it again.

It could have been and could be at any time , that is my thought.


Besides the 1000 year revelation Germans have a 100 year timeline, waiting for the time when Kaiser Barbarossa , emperor Frederik( combination of I and II) Red Beard wakes up from his long sleep in the Kyffhaueser mountain in Thuringia. He did wake up a while ago.

H. Jonat

HJ, yes, people 'thought this'. It could also mean that people fall for the same mistakes over and over again. It still doesn't make it 'what the book of Revelation says' - it only makes it a particularly useless interpretation thereof. --MichaelTinkler.