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For your tireless work in making Misplaced Pages better, for keeping Template:Feature up-to-date, for doing the grunt work of cleaning up Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates, for mediating in disputes, for adding lots of really nice pictures, and for still finding the time to work on articles! In a few months you've already become a highly valued member of the community. Stay with us and don't burn out, please. --Eloquence Apr 10, 2004

Tropical Storm Erick (2007)

Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Tropical Storm Erick (2007)

Raul, I'm hoping you'll look at this FAC, as its closure may be viewed as setting a precedent. There have been months of discussion at WT:FAC about how to handle shorter articles (in relation to past FAs), with the discussions touching on issues of notability, how do we define 1b comprehensive, whether there should be separate recognition of shorter FAs not eligible for TFA, potential for merging, whether an article is stable if it could be merged elsewhere, whether an article provides adequate context, worthiness for TFA, availability of sources, and more. The community has been divided throughout these discussions, with this being the only change to gain consensus out of hundreds of KB of discussion, filling three archives and still going. I'm concerned that the recurrence of these issues is stalling FAC (see WP:FAS). The article is 750 words. It has passed muster on other WP:WIAFA criteria (that is, except for the length/context issue), and has nine Supports. It has three Opposes and two Comments indicating that the article should be merged to the storm season article or that it doesn't provide adequate context (from User:Hurricanehink, User:Yomangani, User:Geometry guy, User:Stone and User:Mike Christie). I will make the call if I must, but I'd much rather have your input. The FAC community has invested a lot of time and bandwidth into trying to sort this issue, so I feel a clear call is warranted out of respect for the effort invested. Separately, I will send you an e-mail regarding Marskell's planned absence from FAR as soon as I have a chance to gather my thoughts. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Also, a potential situation at WP:TFA/R between January 8 and January 9, both high points, explorer and expedition back to back, will present a problem in the point tallies. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:35, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Raul, the January 8 article, Alfred Russell Wallace, is about a scientist who did field work. Although he may fit the category, he was not primarily an explorer. Nimrod Expedition, proposed for January 9, has since been removed by the proposer after opposition to its nomination on the basis it had too many points and was proposed too early, although within the rules. (There appears to be a feeling among a few that high-point articles should not be proposed early on in the 30 day period, despite the rules, as they displace other articles requested for the interim.) Everyone appears to hope you will feature it anyway, but the proposer wants no part of ill feelings caused by a nomination at the request page. Regards, Kablammo (talk) 14:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

copyright permission

Raul, thank you for helping me out on the Florida Catholic photo. I posted their new permission letter here . And I forwarded the email to OTRS. NancyHeise 18:16, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Sure - glad I could help. Raul654 (talk) 06:20, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

ID

I moved a part of your response up one section, with the signature. I hope that you don't mind. If you do just revert and I'll add my response again. –M 05:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Wheel of Fire, S5 Ep 19 - Title Section

Hi, I wanted to recommend some additions. From the History Page it appears that you entered most of the information for the article. (Let me know if I'm wrong.)

The section currently references the myth of Ixion and his punishment upon a wheel of fire.

On TV.COM the title is explained as follows:

"The title is a reference to King Lear: "You do me wrong to take me out o' the grave: Thou art a soul in bliss; but I am bound Upon a wheel of fire, that mine own tears Do scald like molten lead." Londo's situation is similar to Lear's ...."

It is spoken by Lear in Act IV, Scene 7. In fact, the word "wheel" is used four times in King Lear. As used by Lear in the above quote it appears to be a reference by Shakespeare to Ixion's punishment/fate.

J.M. Straczynski himslef seems to verify that a reference to King Lear was intended and that it is Londo's situation that is comparable to Lear's. See The Lurker's Guide:

JMS also says that

"The wheel of fire visually has spokes proceeding out from a central flame; the center burns outward. And several of the fires smoldering lately have done that; with Byron it was a literal flame that has now gone out along the spokes and had substantial repercussions, with more to come years down the road."

In fact, "The Wheel of Fire" is both the title of a book about Shakespeare's tragedies and a Misplaced Pages entry. In this context, the wheel of fire refers to the sequence of events (called "fortune" in King Lear) that result from the hero's tragic flaw. Two of the "wheel" references in Lear are related to this concept of fortune.

I thought you might want to add some of this to the title section. Ileanadu (talk) 21:04, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. Raul654 (talk) 05:17, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Please...

...Define Vandalism. I am editing the articles so that the articles are more accurate on the facts. Global warming and related subjects are a theory not a fact, There is a lot of evidence to support, but it is not obviously true. Kluft (talk) 19:46, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I've already responded to your comment on the talk page where you left your previous comment. In short - you are wrong. Your edits are detrimental to our articles. You must stop. Raul654 (talk) 19:48, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I'll just add a little something: This is completely wrong. CO2 levels are stated as being higher, not because we assume it to be so, or because theory says it must, but instead because all our data show it to be so (ie. fact). But please provide us with your evidence for the opposite on Talk:Climate, and please stick to reliable sources, which in this case means peer-reviewed science - not blogs, op-eds or newspaper articles. Perhaps you should also try to read the reference (or alternatively the look at raw data.) --Kim D. Petersen (talk) 19:57, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

OK, I am not in any way trying to say that Global Warming or related subjects are true or false, nor am I here to give an counter argument. But that it has not been proven in either direction; so something not proven true or false, but believed to be true, is a theory. I believe that letting reading know that 'Global Warming or related subjects' have not been proven true or false is good, just that there have been a lot of evidence found to support it, but not enough to make to make it undeniably true. Yes, in that thermometers don't lie, but it doesn't always mean the world is warming, it's just supporting evidence. I just want to make wikipedia better. I am Not vandalizing, this is what I see to be true. But if don't, then I'm forced discontinue my work here. Kluft (talk) 20:21, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

In science everything is a theory. Gravity is a theory, we run nuclear plants all over the world, based on the Atomic theory, Internet communication over DSL is dependent on Quantum theory etc. etc.. Please see Misplaced Pages:Words_to_avoid#Theories_and_hypotheses.

In these article, we present the scientific opinion according to the weight of evidence, and adhere strictly to a neutral point of view - which doesn't mean equal opportunity, but rather that we present the sources and information, according to their prevalence in the literature. --Kim D. Petersen (talk) 20:37, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Ripening sock of our old friend?

Can you take a look at Josko33 --Kim D. Petersen (talk) 01:06, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Heh ! I'm getting good at spotting him ;) And thanks. --Kim D. Petersen (talk) 01:13, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

The Swimming Hole

Sorry to jump in on this article before you were done. Hope I did not create any edit conflicts. A fascinating subject. It would make a great DYK nomination, and I have put it up for that award. Since you're still working away, I'll leave it alone to avoid edit conflicts. Cbl62 (talk) 05:03, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't mind the DYK nomination - I was going to put it up for one anyone. And don't worry about edit conflicts -- I like seeing other people fiddling with my work :). So go ahead and edit away. Raul654 (talk) 05:05, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for The Swimming Hole

On 19 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Swimming Hole, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 23:54, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

December 26 TFA

Well, this would have been interesting ;) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 00:21, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Bureaucrats

Hi! As a bureaucrat on Misplaced Pages, I'd very much appreciate it if you would fill in your details on the newly updated Bureaucrats page. Thanks! Majorly 14:29, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

IP blocks

Can you review some Scibaby rangeblocks? I've just blocked dozens of anonymizing IP ranges which fall under your /16 rangeblocks. If an IP is under multiple rangeblocks, it'll take the settings of the larger range. In this case, your /16 softblocks will override any hardblock of the smaller ranges. Since several subnets are now hardblocked, it would be good if you could look over these IPs and see if a /16 softblock is still needed: 128.241.0.0/16, 130.94.0.0/16, 168.143.0.0/16, 198.172.0.0/16, 205.212.0.0/16, and 207.67.0.0/16. Thanks, Spellcast (talk) 04:16, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

The following sockpuppets have used those ranges:

128.241.0.0/16
- 128.241.41.115, 2 November, Vextration (Scibaby)
- 128.241.104.20, 23 October, Strayson (Scibaby)
- 128.241.88.36, 17 October, Showconfig
- 128.241.88.36, 12 October, IJALB
- 128.241.88.36, 6 October, CHECKORUP
130.94.0.0/16
- 130.94.106.238, 13 December, Josko33 (Scibaby)
- 130.94.123.169, 1-2 November, Vextration (Scibaby)
- 130.94.106.229 , 5 October, Yustachian (Scibaby)
168.143.0.0/16
- 168.143.114.10, December 19, Josko33 (Scibaby)
198.172.0.0/16
- (No bad edits found)
205.212.0.0/16
- 205.212.73.231, December 14, Josko33 (Scibaby)
207.67.0.0/16
- 207.67.146.241, 25 November, Istrill (Scibaby)

What do you suggest be done about these ranges? Raul654 (talk) 11:20, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

All those IPs are under a blocked range from anonymizer.com (except 128.241.88.36, which is blocked under a different anonymizing range from anchorfree.com). The narrower rangeblocks should hopefully do the trick and since your softblocks were overriding the hardblocks, I've unblocked the above /16s. If you see another IP from one of the above ranges, it could be part of another anonymizer.com range. If not, you can simply reapply the /16. Spellcast (talk) 12:39, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

TFA: January 1

Hi, you might want to consider using Ceres as the TFA for the new year's day. Nergaal (talk) 00:22, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi Nergaal. We just had an astronomy article for TFA and I'd like to avoid having another one so soon. Raul654 (talk) 11:21, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

How to create Ogg theora file from frames

Hi Mark,

About two years ago I uploaded quite a few GIF-animations to wikipedia, at the time GIF-animation was the only form of animated media. For example, I created the animations for the Coriolis flow meter article (and I wrote the article). Now there is the possibility of uploading Ogg theora files, enabling much better compression than animated-GIF.

I've been combing wikipedia and other sites for information about generating Ogg theora files. But I get the impression that all the available software is conversion software.

Do you happen to know software (for Windows environment) that can take a series of frames as input, and turn that in an Ogg theora file? As far as I can tell, what existing software does is convert files that are already in video-format. All I see mentioned is conversion of quicktime .mov to Ogg theora, WMV to Ogg theora, .avi to Ogg theora, etc. etc. Cleonis | Talk 20:45, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

The short answer is that you shouldn't -- for human-made animated graphics and diagrams (as opposed to live video -- the kind you shoot with a video camera) animated gif is the most appropriate format. It's smaller, (potentially) lossless, substantially better supported in browsers, etc.

The longer answer is that if you really want to despite my above concerns, the only way I can think of to do it would be to go from animated gif -> X -> ogg theora, where X is some intermediate video format (1) for which there exists a program that can do gif->X conversion, and (2) that can be converted to theora by ffmpeg2theora. I'm confident that such a format exists, but without further investigation I couldn't tell you what it is. Raul654 (talk) 06:03, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, generally animated-GIF is bigger than compressed video. For an extreme example of a bloated GIF, see: Image:Precessing_Kepler_orbit_280frames_e0.6_smaller.gif

Animated-GIF files are smaller if and only if the design is optimized for small file size. For instance, I don't use color in animated-GIF. Using grey-scale only I can make do with a palette with 16 entries. Then each pixel in each frame takes 4 bits instead of 8 bits. Other optimizations are possible, but it's cramping my style.

You have a point: I hadn't quite realized that the compression algorithms that are used in MPEG and Ogg Theora and so are optimized to compress real world scenes. Compressing diagrams is another ball game. So, animated-GIF will have to do. Cleonis | Talk 10:20, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Translation/Alexey_Lyapunov

Did the translation! Just wondered if you could look it over - I'm not sure whether you speak/read Russian, but it needs someone to proofread and make sure I translated everything correctly - my Russian is good but not perfect. Graymornings_(talk) 21:30, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't speak any Russian, but I did polish up the article as best I could. (primarily changing all instances of "USSR Academy of Sciences" to "Soviet Academy of Sciences". USSR is the noun, and Soviet is the adjective.) Raul654 (talk) 08:23, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the proofread - the article's looking good. Graymornings_(talk) 23:26, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Question

Raul, I've looked for the answer for my question, but wasn't able to find it anywhere, so I thought I'd just ask you. Are featured lists eligible to be put on the Main Page? Thanks for the consideration, and Merry Christmas. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 06:42, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Return of a sock?

I don't think anyone is daft enough to be this obvious, but you ought to check out User:Scibaby1. I'm guessing it's just your run-of-the-mill vandal, but who knows. OrangeMarlin 12:29, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

It's a sockpuppeteer. Probably not Scibaby himself, but one pretending to be him. Raul654 (talk) 06:19, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Not sure how you feel about these, but here goes :)

Wherever you are, and whether you're celebrating something or not, there is always a reason to spread the holiday spirit! So, may you have a great day, and may all your wishes be fulfilled in 2009! Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:43, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Is this a combination of my Christmas greeting from 2006 and my New Year's greeting from last year? Why, it most certainly is! Hey, if it ain't broke...

Merry Christmas!

		Merry Christmas!
		Template:Sound sample box align right Christmas medley A chiptune medley to annoy Ironholds :D Problems playing this file? See media help. Template:Sample box end Raul654, here's hoping you're having a wonderful Christmas, and here's also hoping that all your family and friends are well. Lets all hope that the year coming will be a good one! If we've had disputes in the past, I hold no grudges, especially at such a time as this. If you don't know I am, I apologise, feel free to remove this from your page. Come and say hi, I won't bite, I swear! It could even be good for me, you know - I'm feeling a little down at the moment with all of these snowmen giving me the cold shoulder :( — neur ho ho ho 00:09, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy Holidays, Raul, and thanks for putting up with some of my nonsense. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 05:55, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Fvasconcellos, Neurolysis, Ottava Rima, and all the other people watching this page. Yes, I had a very merry Christmas. In fact, I got engaged. :) Raul654 (talk) 06:04, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow, congratulations, Mark!--chaser - t 06:19, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Congrats! Guettarda (talk) 06:27, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Wishing you the very best for the season. Guettarda (talk) 06:27, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations, Mark !! Here's to a joyous New Year (and well wishes to the other half) SandyGeorgia (Talk)

Congrats! Its nice to see that someone around here is able to keep up a real personal life. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 17:29, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas from Promethean

O'Hai there Raul654, Merry Christmas!

Raul654,
I wish you and your family all the best this Christmas and that you also have a Happy and safe new year.
Thankyou for all your contributions to Misplaced Pages this year and I look forward to seeing many more from you in the future.
Your work around Misplaced Pages has not gone un-noticed, this notice is testimony to that
Please feel free to drop by my talkpage any time to say Hi, as I will probably say Hi back :)

All the Best. «l| Ψrometheăn ™|l» (talk)

Congrats! Merry christmas Raul! (Haven't edited in ages just stopping by for the xmas cheer :)) RN 22:26, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Many congratulations! Now don't do like I did, and have your father-in-law-to-be catch you doing programming homework on your wedding day... Best holiday wishes to you and yours. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 16:49, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

An old friend

Any thoughts on User:MalcolmMcDonald? Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 00:57, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

If he's a sockpuppet, I don't think he's a sockpuppet of Scibaby. Raul654 (talk) 02:41, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to lay pretty good odds on Boyster as a scibaby sock. --Kim D. Petersen (talk) 10:43, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Close the bets - i'm certain on this one.... I'll be very surprised indeed if it turns out not to be scibaby.... --Kim D. Petersen (talk) 10:58, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

And he couldn't lie low for long - so here's the next one: Sparnge --Kim D. Petersen (talk) 10:57, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

E-mail

Hi, Raul. Did you get my e-mail? -- Avi (talk) 04:10, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes I did. Sorry about my delay in responding - in the Christmas rush, it got lost in the woodwork. I've replied now. Raul654 (talk) 06:03, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Have a happy New Year

Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/December 28, 2008

I don't know what is the procedure to change the daily TFA intro, but it's too small. The main page is completely unbalanced and tweaking the DYKs/ITNs won't be enough. Cenarium (Talk) 01:35, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

I've added three previous hooks to the DYKs and at least there's no blanks any more, but the TFA intro is overwhelmed by the DYKs. Cenarium (Talk) 01:47, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

I've expanded the blurb slightly, as I have seen other admins make slight changes to the blurb. If it is not satisfactory, I have no objection to it being changed back or modified, please do not consider it wheel warring.--Wehwalt (talk) 03:18, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

The blurb is a bit short, but IMO it's not too short - the usual thing we do in these cases is trim ITN. If someone wants to expand the article intro and update the blurb to match, I don't object. Raul654 (talk) 06:45, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

No, I'm keeping my hands off. Thanks for your forbearance.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:55, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Template:Video TfD ...again

You are logged as the creator of Template:Video on 17:31, 28 April 2005.
In March of 2008, Eric Schmidt of Google said that videos are being uploaded to YouTube at the rate of 10 hours of video per second. Misplaced Pages will also be uploaded with many user-made illustration videos as well as short fair-use feature movie clips.
In this environment, a deletionist campaign against Template:Video last March at WP:Templates for deletion/Log/2008 March 21#Template:Video, struck me as idiosyncratic, with arguments I characterize as software kernel programming simplicity and minimalism (reduces bugs), misapplied to human-scale artistic design (clips from famous movies don't need a marquee).
It was also conducted in bad faith. I counted about 200 WP videos at that time, and at least 23 of them used Template:Video:

El Tatio, Spectrum analyzer, Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority, Ubuntu (philosophy), Annie Oakley, DNA microarray, Levitron, Green-winged Macaw, Dissolve (film), Derek Wall, Trouble (board game), Paragliding, Aurora (astronomy), Railroad switch, Fencing, Human rights in post-invasion Iraq, Apollo 11, Apollo 14, Sign language, Bruce Perens, Tank, Babirusa, Mind the gap

A techie editor lacking an esthetic (art-music) education replaced all them with the bare image tag (so that videos and pictures look alike in Mediawiki code), then TfD'd claiming non-use. I negotiated his withdrawal of it at Template talk:Video#Rewritten video template.
That editor had replaced the templates without notifying the talk pages of the impending TfD. I did so and spent more political capital than I wanted to. I decided not to spend even more reverting the 23 after the TfD was withdrawn.
As a result, now another non-esthetic-education techie editor is again pursuing a Template:Video TfD at Misplaced Pages:Templates for deletion/Log/2008 December 27#Template:Video. In effect he is claiming that because I didn't get into 23 tussles that the idiosyncratic editor caused, that the Template:Video is now subject to deletion never mind the bad faith actions leading to the TfD.
These esthetically challenged deletionist techies are trying to take away page layout artists' tools that they don't know how to use. I think some page needs to be organized to stand guard over esthetic choice at Misplaced Pages -- or at least to protect something as simple and obvious as an optional movie marquee parameter.
On the other hand, if you don't care about this template any more, I have other things to do. (Please reply here if desired) Milo 09:29, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikisource

Raul, opinions seem to be all over the place on what WP:Layout#Links to other Wikimedia projects should say about Wikisource. See for instance WT:Layout#Proposal and http://en.wikisource.org/WS:S#WP_guidelines_on_links_from_WP_to_Wikisource. Your Akutan Zero recently made it through FAC with the "Wikisource has original text..." logo intact. WP:SELFREF disallows references to Misplaced Pages (except roughly for disambigs and for templates that indicate something that would keep the article from passing GAN or FAC), and SELFREF also seems to counsel against references to other Wikimedia sites (for example, we simply present images in articles, without mentioning that they're hosted at Commons). I've asked around, and arguments go both ways: some say that it's important to promote Wikisource because we want people to upload to Wikisource; some people say that, if we should be promoting the Wikisource logo in article text, why shouldn't we be promoting Misplaced Pages in article text? Thoughts? (Watchlisting for a few days.) - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 19:34, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

On the smaller question of why I did what I did with the Akutan Zero article: I put a link to wikisource because I thought that the article was *greatly* improved by having a ready link to the intelligence documents the find generated (which it took me 2 hours to manually OCR). I can see no reason why the article would be improved by not providing the reader with this document. I placed the wikisource template in the body of the article next to the relavant paragraph ("Data and conclusions from these tests were published in Informational Intelligence Summary 59, and Technical Aviation Intelligence Brief #3, and Informational Intelligence Summary 85.") I admit the placement is debatable -- for consistency's sake, it might be preferable to limit them to external links sections only, but in this case it clearly ties in better in its current location.

On the larger question of what to do with links to other projects -- that's difficult to generalize. I can see how Wikisource, Wikinews, Commons links are useful, but I can see little reason why any other project would be linked (except arguably in-line links to wikitionary.) My rule of thumb is that in almost all cases, they should go in the external links section, unless there's a really good reason why they shouldn't. Raul654 (talk) 20:05, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 22:33, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Sealifts

I have resumed discussion on the sealift. Sherif9282 (talk) 18:19, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Raul654 was inducted into The Hall of The Greats

The inscription is in the description. --David Shankbone 00:40, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Why thank you, David -- I'm touched. I appreciate it. Happy new year! Raul654 (talk) 05:25, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

haha - didn't somebody somewhere once say something about once the monuments begin to be built, the revolution is over...? :-) --David Shankbone 18:48, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Please check your blocks

You can still read pages, but cannot edit, change, or create them.
Editing from 75.50.128.0/17 (your account, IP address, or IP address range) has been disabled by Raul654 for the following reason(s):
Range used by Scibaby
This block has been set to expire: 06:47, 25 October 2013.

I'm not scibaby. Some of your blocks are causing collateral damage. I've been working with this project and doing some volunteer work for WMF (in the way of blog promotion and moderation and OTRS) so you can imagine my feelings when I got this message. I know you work hard, and we all make mistakes, please double check this range. Best, NonvocalScream (talk) 04:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

You are a legit user and I've seen that you do share a number of ranges with Scibaby. I've made efforts to limit my blocks of your shared ranges so that they prevent logged-out users from creating accounts and editing. You should not be affected when logged in. (If you are, please let me know which blocks are causing the problem). I checked the range you mentioned and it should be exactly as desired - affecting only logged-out users. Raul654 (talk) 05:24, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

If it is anon only, I should not have been affected... There must have been a bug. (or I logged out?) I had experienced that message for a few minutes. If it happens again, I'll double check to ensure I am logged in, or file a bug report regarding the anon only setting. Very best, NonvocalScream (talk) 11:44, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

The Swimming Hole

Hi Raul; I'm finished on the Eakins for now. Feel free to have a look and ask questions or make suggestions. Cheers and Happy New Year, JNW (talk) 05:51, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Happy New Year!

Happy New Year!

Hey there, Raul654! Happy new Gregorian year. All the best for the new year, both towards you and your family and friends too. I know that I am the only person lonely enough to be running this thing as the new year is ushered in, but meh, what are you going to do. I like to keep my templated messages in a satisfactorily melancholy tone. ;)

Congratulations to Coren, Wizardman, Vassyana, Carcharoth, Jayvdb, Casliber, Risker, Roger Davies, Cool Hand Luke and Rlevse, who were all appointed to the Arbitration Committee after the ArbCom elections. I am sure I am but a voice of many when I say I trust the aforementioned users to improve the committee, each in their own way, as listed within their respective election statements. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to update the 2009 article, heh.

Best wishes, neuro 00:57, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

TFA templates all have unnecessary ending div tag

Hi Raul, I've been creating an alternative main page for my own use (and maybe everyone's if it goes through WP:MPRP), and I've come across a problem. In each TFA template, there is an ending div tag after the paragraph; is there a reason for this? There was never an opening div tag, so why does it need a closing one? I've gone back to look, and the end div appears as far back as I can tell in every day, so maybe there's something wrong with whatever you're using to make all the templates. User:Dudemanfellabra/Sandbox2 uses divs/CSS to display all the main page content, and this ending div breaks my page (It's easily fixed by adding an open div tag just before TFA, but others may not be able to figure this out). If there's a reason for it, could you please explain.. or if not, could you please remove it and make sure it's not added to future ones? Thanks a lot! --Dudemanfellabra (talk) 17:53, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

It may have started Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/August 17, 2006. Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/August 16, 2006 doesn't have it (in fact, there's an edit removing it), and it didn't appear in spot-checks earlier than that. I can, if necessary, write a script to regularize these blurbs. Which reminds me; the first TFA page was Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/February 22, 2004. Planning anything for 5 years of TFA? Gimmetrow 18:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't know HTML, so it's entirely possible a stray tag slipped in. If you could fix them with a bot, that would be great.

As for 5 years - wow. Time does go by fast. Until you mentioned it, no, I wasn't planning on anything, but I'm open to suggestions. Raul654 (talk) 18:21, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to be a bother, but I notice that you've added TFAs for the days up until January 7th... each of these also contains the unnecessary ending div. Do you use some type of program/bot to create the templates, or do you do it manually? The history of each template shows your user name and not a bot, so my guess is manually. If this is true, you don't need the "</div>" at the end of the descriptive text. I thought after it was brought up, the problem would be fixed, but it continues. The old TFA templates don't necessarily need to be fixed, but new ones hereafter shouldn't contain the div tag. --Dudemanfellabra (talk) 19:50, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I do it by copying and pasting the previous day. Remove it from the last day I've schedule and I will propagate it from there. Raul654 (talk) 20:44, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Since the first TFA was Mozart, there is still Mozart family Grand Tour not used.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:49, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Might add a "Featured 5 years ago" link along with the "Recently featured" links. Gimmetrow 03:58, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Or get the DYK people to have " ... that Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart was the first Today's Featured Article, five years ago today?" throughout the day.--Wehwalt (talk) 04:04, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to do a bunch of other things at the same time. On the list are;

remove the trailing /div
wrap any images with <div style="float:left;margin-right:0.9em"> and </div>
replace Image: with File:
add "more..." links where absent
replace the trailer text with {{TFAfooter}}
remove links to 4-digit numbers (years) and links to month/day combinations

Anything else? Gimmetrow 00:15, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

No, I don't think so. Raul654 (talk) 09:23, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

What do the "recently featured" links mean for the 2004 February 22, 23 and 24 entries? All those linked articles appear later in 2004. Gimmetrow 00:34, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

A bit of history - Mozart wasn't the first FA to appear on the main page, per se. It was the fourth or fifth. The FAs started appearing on the main page the previous day, and people were changing it every few hours. I decided that was crazy and imposed a rule that we would change it every 24 hours. Mozart was the first one to stay up for the full 24 hours. So basically - you can ignore the "recently featured" for those days - they were articles that went on the main page for a few hours, not the full day they should have been. Raul654 (talk) 01:32, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Barack the Magic Negro

On 3 January, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Barack the Magic Negro, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Photosubmission

Hello,

I have been told by Guillom a OTRS admin to place a official request on the meta page before receiving access to the queue. I placed now a offical request on meta (See here).

I am hoping that you can place there a message that I can help with the language I speak. I hope that I can help real soon so your backlogs are soon gone :)

Bye, Abigor (talk) 18:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC) p.s I watch this page if you respond here :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abigor (talk • contribs) 18:19, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Fair warning ;)

Hi Raul,

We at WikiProject Oregon are preparing to send out an email to 90 Oregon legislators, inviting them to submit photos for use on their Misplaced Pages biographies. It occurs to me, at this late date, that this could trigger a lot of work for you and anyone who handles the back end.

Is this OK? Is there anything I can do to help, if you get flooded with requests? Here is our message, in draft form. -Pete (talk) 23:41, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Go ahead - it's a great idea. Right now the photo submissions queue is bursting at the seams, so I might be taking you up on that offer. Raul654 (talk) 00:01, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

PS - I've removed the first sentence from your draft. Raul654 (talk) 00:04, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the simplifying edit -- I like it! Hopefully we get some good photos. Please let me know what I can do to help manage the workload. -Pete (talk) 00:25, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Jourdan Dunn photo

Hi Raul, sorry about removing the inline credit from the photo in the Jourdan Dunn article; I figured the photo provider may have required that credit as a condition, but I wasn't sure about the external linking. Did he also require that the image caption include a link to his site, or could that link be included only on the file page? I don't have a problem with crediting the provider in the caption, but I was just wondering about the link since my habit is to avoid inline ELs where I can. Thanks, Politizer /_contribs 01:34, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't do it unless it's specifically requested, and it's not something that most people ask for. Both Ed Kavishe (professional photographer who sends us photos of people in the modeling industry) and Jim Summaria (professional photographer, sends us pics of musicians) have asked for in-line photo credit along with links to their websites. The send us *lots* of high quality pictures. If you see pics from them, don't remove the in-line citation. Raul654 (talk) 02:04, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, that sounds fine. Sorry about last time; now that I know, it won't happen again. :) Politizer /_contribs 02:30, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Pictures for Yom Kippur War article

Hello Raul654, I've posted a question for you in the talk page. Sherif9282 (talk) 20:17, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Replied there. Raul654 (talk) 07:37, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Scibaby rangeblock collateral

Hnkelley (talk · contribs) requests a modification of a rangeblock by you. Best, Sandstein 22:34, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

He emailed me a few days ago, and I've been so backlogged with other things that I haven't gotten back to him. I'll get back to him tonight or tomorrow morning. Raul654 (talk) 02:46, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Range Block

Hey, you have disabled my IP address from editing? It says Range used by TileJoin but I haven't a clue what a TileJoin is. I can't find it in the rules and stuff. Can you elaborate? Urbanknowhow (talk) 22:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Tile join is a prolific sockpuppeteer. He registers many user accounts and later uses them to disrupt Misplaced Pages. IP addresses and ranges he has used are, as a matter of course, blocked in such a way as to prevent them from registering now accounts. However, these blocks do allow existing accounts to edit Misplaced Pages. Thus, people who already have accounts (such as yourself) are not affected as long as you log in. Raul654 (talk) 08:32, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Per our e-mail discussion...

...I'm ready to start back on cleanup detail. :) I've done a number of original articles on this new account including a few DYK articles and cleaned up some of my old ones, so it hasn't been purely "whack-a-vandal." I have a few ideas for new content once some of my other writing and production duties in real life subside a bit. I have two articles in mind for bringing to feature status to boot and one is pretty darn close. As far as keeping things tidy, heaven knows it's us against them and I want to be an "us" once more. Thanks again. You've been here for me since day one (you left my first welcome message) and I appreciate your guidance and friendship more than I can express. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 04:22, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Done - you have your admin bit back. Raul654 (talk) 04:38, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! It's an honor to be back and you have my word on this very public forum that I'll live up to the responsibility. Owe you yet again. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 06:10, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Jan 18 TFA

Raul, just to make sure you know, Radiohead is at FAR. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 06:18, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

No, I had not seen that. Thanks for the heads-up. Raul654 (talk) 06:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Unblock request of GoRight

Hello Raul654. GoRight (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), whom you have blocked, is requesting to be unblocked. The request for unblock is on hold while waiting for a comment from you. Regards, Sandstein 23:02, 9 January 2009 (UTC) Comment: The arguments made in the unblock request appear prima facie persuasive to me. I am also concerned that the recent history of The Deniers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) could lead an observer to the conclusion that you blocked this account so as to gain an advantage in a content dispute. Your comments on this matter or a lifting of the block would be much appreciated. Thanks, Sandstein 23:02, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I didn't block him over his recent edits to the Deniers, per se. I blocked him because those edits were the latest in a string of extremely disruptive behavior on GoRight's part. Since the RFC and community sanctions were imposed on him last August, I've been keeping track of his disruption here. In short - he contributes nothing of value, while wasting the time of others. (Just look at his talk page, on the two threads prior to the block -- the one here wherein he is warned against using talk pages as soap boxes and for making personal attacks, during which he reverted warred to keep his disruptive comments in the article); and my warning to him that further disruption from him on global warming articles would no longer be tolerated). Raul654 (talk) 23:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your swift reply. It seems that this is a rather complicated issue, and I am loath to make a hasty judgment here. Still, I am not convinced that this block was appropriate under these circumstances, if only because you and he do also seem to disagree in matters of content. I'll leave his unblock request open for now in the hope that another administrator more acquainted with this situation will review it. Sandstein 23:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

If you want to take over the block (that is, unblock and reblock), that is fine with me. Raul654 (talk) 23:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I'd rather not, because, to be frank, I can't really see blockable disruption in his most recent edits. Sandstein 23:30, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

All of his edits since coming back on January 2 fall into one of three categories:

Using Talk:Global warming as a soap box to make personal attacks and then revert warring to when they are reverted (or wikilawyering on his talk page to justify his behavior by claiming that his personal attacks weren't directed at other Misplaced Pages users, just "AGW scientologists" in general)
Revert warring to rewrite his history here
Removing sourced, highly relevant information from global warming articles

A better question to ask would be - has he made even a single productive edit since coming back on Jan 2, or is he here solely to disrupt Misplaced Pages? Raul654 (talk) 23:41, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

PUI

Hi, I am cleaning out Misplaced Pages:Possibly unfree images/2008 December 25 and saw your comment at the listing of a few images, like File:Ali-Moeen-Writer4.jpg. What is the current status on these, is there a chance of a clear permission through OTRS? Garion96 (talk) 01:53, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

We got a response, and it looks like it's good, but I haven't yet checked to make sure everything is in order. (I haven't dealt with that one because the queue is very backlogged) Raul654 (talk) 02:06, 10 January 2009 (UTC)