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Good job on the rescue! Sincerely, --A Nobody 21:27, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

Yaaq

Thanks for catching my mistake, but the article in question didn't refer to the place as it was talking about Adansonia digitata. I shouldn't do more than one thing at a time :) -Yupik (talk) 22:58, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

And AFAIK should be in that sentence. My Somali skills stink, so I won't go out on a limb about it (no pun intended :)). -Yupik (talk) 23:00, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I don't know about the arboreal connection. But in any event, I can proudly proclaim "I'm a Yaaqi Doodle Dandy!" (I hope there's no hitherto unknown policy about getting blocked for bad puns!) Ecoleetage (talk) 00:10, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the timely demise of the soda I was drinking when I read this :D And fortunately they don't seem to consider puns to be deadwood :) -Yupik (talk) 18:26, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Juke Joint (1947 film)

Enough already.

Seriously, the RfA is over, can you just stop with the false allegations? I didn't respond in a hostile manner to everyone, just to you...because you had to pick a fight with me. The only time I used "sarcastic" edit summaries was with you. Ask yourself why. And as for Keepscases, I said nothing about him that wasn't backed by some evidence. The guy spends more time at RfAs than working on actual content, and he gave a really dumb reason for opposing me, after never having spoken to me on here.

I think you're just bitter about not having made RfA, and now you want to tear others down as well. --Eastlaw (talk) 23:00, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Oooooooookay. Ecoleetage (talk) 00:27, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Terry Caster

Caster probably has contributed enough in his business ventures and political activism to be notable. However, I don;t feel like hunting up the information that would demonstate this. Thankyou for appreciating my efforts.Johnpacklambert (talk) 01:09, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Ulster cherry

Life?

Life is not mistreating me at all; it's snowing, I'm often busy thinking, socializing, or socializing and thinking simultaneously, and the holidays approach! My work on wiki has been toned down some because I am constantly so busy, but I'm on at least once every day. I see that you've been exceeding standards and breaking DYK records. Good job. How's life? BobAmnertiopsis∴_ChatMe! 14:12, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your careful consideration at my successful RfA. "clearly in tune with the project" was generous and appreciated. Please let me know on my talk page if you have any suggestions for me. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 20:21, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Care to have a look and advise?

Why does this not show up as a 2nd AfD within three weeks for the same article... one that was kept as "Keep" and not simply no consensus? Without that prior history infobox at the AfD, editors might think it a first AfD and not follow the history. Plus, I am agrieved that a "definite keep" from 3 weeks earlirer can be ignored. I know that consensus can change... but in 3 weeks?? Is this proper procedure? Doesn't such an early return to AfD, without allowing concerns at an earlier AfD to be addressed kinda fall under WP:NOTAGAIN? If the artilce had mot been improved in 6 months, I might understand... but 3 weeks? Schmidt, 22:18, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

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all the best, Feliz Navidad, prospero año y felicidad.--intraining 04:40, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

I hope one of your new years resolutions is to run for adminship. Peace:).--intraining 04:46, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Your opinion...

...regarding a potential RfA candidate is solicited at my talk page. Thanks!  Frank  |  talk  08:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your kind words. Have a nice day. :-) AdjustShift (talk) 13:23, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Barn

Humour

Yes, you are actually in the right queue! That made my day that! Hey btw, are you an admin, because if you like (or if I am alright to do this!) I would be very happy to nominate you and I think you would definately suceed. It is up to you. Andy (talk) 19:16, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

No, I am not an admin. I had an RfA in early September, but it didn’t quite turn out the way I hoped. But I have a saying: when life hands you lemons, get out the vodka and tonic -- at this mop-free moment in time, la vie est belle (I am closing in on my 100th DYK honour, which is occupying much of my attention now). Anyone is able to nominate someone for adminship, and I am flattered that you would consider me. Ecoleetage (talk) 19:45, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Good luck with your DYK, many of yours I have seen. Regarding rfa, i am surprised it did not pass with flying colours and I would be happy to nominate you if you wanted. Nice quote by the way (lemons, vodka etc, sounds good to me!) Andy (talk) 19:58, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

Oh, dear, I didn't realise I was the cause of so much mirth! Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 23:29, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Haha, you deserve it, no need to thank me! I see a user has echoed my thoughts above as well, so I'm not alone in this sentiment (as I thought). DARTH PANDA 01:06, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

re:Adminship

I don't know exactly what you want from me, but if you want to follow through on your threat to derail my future rfa, that's fine. It's really not going to bother me if it fails, and if you feel the need to retaliate... go for it. Adminship isn't a big deal to me, though I think I'd be okay at it. I'll be sure to let you know when it goes live. --AniMate 06:04, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I am not threatening to derail anything, nor do I have the power to do such a thing. I am giving you a heads up because I feel that some of your previous actions are problematic and may not stand up to RfA scrutiny. This is not the first time that I've warned people in advance of an RfA of what might be a weak link in their chain. I've seen a lot of worthy RfA candidates get kneecap-whacked with gotcha-style surprises. If anything, I am extending a courtesy of previewing what you may encounter if this goes live. Thank you and be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 11:54, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

What you're doing is wildly inappropriate. No one sprung "gotcha-style surprises" on you, and issuing veiled threats (whatever you call them, that's what they are) isn't helping your case any should you choose to stand again at RfA. _D.D.J.Jameson 13:25, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

For the record, I plan to support the AniMate RfA when it goes live. I only wanted to call attention to a possible problem before the RfA takes place. I am truly sorry to see that a genuine act of good faith is being seen as something it is not. Ecoleetage (talk) 13:42, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I went ahead and collapsed the discussion on my talk page. I believe you when you say your comment was misinterpreted. As to nominating me, you can coordinate that with Alasdair once I have regular access to computers again. Thanks for your (future) support. AniMate 04:39, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

And thank you for being such a class act! I have been upset all day that this got so out of hand -- it must have been a real "WTF?" moment when you clicked on the site today! I will get in touch with Alasdair to arrange this. Be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 04:44, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Just a heads up, but Alasdair went ahead and put the RfA up. I'm really not sure of the protocol, but as soon as I saved the changes I thought I might need to wait for your co-nom. If you're still interested in co-nominating feel free (if that's allowed now that I accepted), otherwise feel free to participate however you feel comfortable. --AniMate 23:16, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Reread the section on nominating and apparently co-nominating after transclusion is frowned upon. Thank you for offering though, I really did appreciate it. AniMate 23:43, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

It's my fault. As long as I didn't transclude the RfA you could have still co-nominated. I plead dinner with the extended family and all the accompanying stress, since I got online to distract myself from the relentless holiday stress. AniMate 01:46, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Afghan Muscles

Thanks

Thanks so much for the barnstar, it means a lot. I know I irritate people on here, but at the same time, I am just not sure if those people get what I am saying. I would never have any problem with someone proclaiming themselves an atheist or any religion, I am just sick of the smug, sarcastic and offensive userboxes that others insist are okay. Keepscases (talk) 17:30, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

It is too easy for people to misunderstand what others are trying to say. In concept, being able to write everything out should make communications easier. In reality, however, it appears this is the worst way to get messages across. In this medium, we are lacking a face, a voice and an organic give-and-take that comes in real life/real time conversation, it is too easy to misconstrue a message. Likewise, not everyone is a sterling communicator and ideas can easily get garbled or points left out, which can result in confusion or worse. (I have expertise on that front.) Since most messaging here is limited to one, two or three sentences (especially in the RfA forums), there is no real conversation as we know it in the offline world. And if you add the controversies that inevitably swirl around religion or politics, you might as well just open your gas tank and toss in a burning match – you’ll get the same effect, but faster and without having to run a spell check first! Ecoleetage (talk) 20:15, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

RfA for Wehwalt

Support #19. An honest question here. Why was it an appropriate support for you to engage and dispense with opposing concerns for that RfA but was a problem when I did it at NWF's? I'm not trying to rile you up or invoke drama (I would have made some remark on either RfA page if I wanted to do that). I just want to get some clarity here. Protonk (talk) 20:22, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

You know, I am always fascinated that people take anything I say so seriously (trust me, I am not that special in the real world). But to answer the question, we are talking about two very different situations. My concerns raised with Wehwalt’s opposers appear to be a systemic problem to RfA in general – taking isolated comments out of context and magnifying them to the point that they obscure an excellent body of work. The problem of disqualifying a candidate for one or two brief, fleeting lapses does a disservice to the process and is unfair to the candidate – it happens too often and I would like to see it stop. I did not go out and directly challenge Wehwalt’s opponents – I challenged a mindframe that sinks too many qualified RfA candidates. Ironically, the editor who put those diffs forward isn’t even opposing the candidate – that !vote went to the neutral base. NWF is a completely different matter, where you addressed a trio of situation-unique opinions from three different editors. The problems raised in that RfA were distinctive to NWF. I was raging against the system, you were correcting me and those other two guys (those other two guys and I? Those guys and me? Anyone? TSP grammar experts, jump in, please). Does that make sense? In a way, I am sorry you came in too early with NWF – no one took my babbling seriously, but it seems East718’s points (which came up the next day) were the iceberg for that RfA cruise, and refuting him would’ve saved the endeavour. Ecoleetage (talk) 20:45, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't think I came in too early or too late, per se. I've rarely seen an RfA turn on a single 'support' comment--the same not being true for single opposes. My concern is that you seem to (from the various comments at NWF's RfA) object to refutation of opposing comments in support votes. I know you oppose badgering generally (I don't, only because it is so hard to tell when it happens), but I wanted to be sure we were on the same page. It's not so much that I take what you say "seriously" (where seriously means I get upset about them or stew) rather than just reading closely (where I figure you have something important to say and it might bear out paying attention). I see in Wehwalt's case people taking 3-4 recent diffs and extrapolating them to mean "this person BITEs newbies". Arguably that could be construed as an aberration in an otherwise helpful career. But so could some of the points raised about NWF. I think where we place those on that continuum has more to do with our "feel" for the candidate than anything else. Take my RfA for example. There could have been a hundred well composed oppose votes written about me from a hundred separate diffs. The fact that people chose not to do that has more to do with their "feel" of how I would be as an admin than it does the representative nature of those diffs. Maybe that's where the Wehwalt/NWF split occurs. I don't know, so I asked. :) And I think it is "those other guys and me" because you would say "you were correcting me" in the absence of the other guys--that's the quick and dirty check for I/me usage. Protonk (talk) 20:57, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I would need to disagree because Wehwalt is being cited for one infraction (biting) whereas NWF’s opponents raised a variety of problems. At that level, the two candidates have nothing in common. I object to a barrage of refutations of oppose !votes for one reason and one reason only – it is a self-inflicted wound by the candidate and/or his supporters. Every time I raise a concern that people are trying to talk down the opposition, it is NOT because I don’t like to have my opinions challenged. Quite the opposite – I love a spirited discussion. And I don’t care if people find fault with my logic. Someone made a deliciously sarcastic crack at my expense in the NWF debate, and if I had his address I’d send him a magnum of champagne as commendation for deftly playing me as the fool (I won’t say who it was, but I can say I admired the wisdom of his remarks). Hey, you refuted me and I answered with a jokey reference to “Let it Be” and a smile – you one-upped me, and I admit it, happily. One refutation, no sweat. Two, okay. Three, a bit of overkill. But I object to excessive refutation, as per NWF's case, and when it happens I raise my voice because I am trying to warn the supporters that they are hurting their chances by constantly undercutting the other side. We just had a withdrawn RfA where the candidate (who should’ve passed the test) went after everyone who disagreed with him, with predictable results. Mae West said too much of a good thing is wonderful -- but she never did RfA, otherwise she'd have refutations as a big caveat.Ecoleetage (talk) 21:20, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, NWF may have been bound for that result before you or I commented. You are right that Wehwalt and NWF faced distinct paths and different objections. It was probably inartful of me to compare the two comments so glibly. And I think the badgering is worse in NWF's (God I really wish that date/time formatting thing would go away)--no doubt there. Oh, and as for the reference: I'm dumb like that. :) You've really got to spell it out for me unless you are referencing: Navy slang, The Simpsons, Star Trek, Mel Brooks, gamer jargon...and other typical while male under the age of 30 stuff. A reference to let it be as a coded sign for me to take it easy is about as clear (to me) as a reference to The Mayor of Casterbridge. anyways, take it easy...er...."did we pass the audition?" :) Protonk (talk) 00:12, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

The quote I gave was from John Lennon at the very end of the film and the album for the Beatles' "Let it Be," when the band finished their rooftop concert. I would be interested in how many people caught that remark -- I put the statement in quotes just to tip off that I was making a reference to another source. Still, I appreciate your input and I am flattered that you think my opinions are worth consulting or refuting. :) Ecoleetage (talk) 00:42, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh my god. I should have caught that! Only because it is parodied at the very end of the Simpsons episode, Homer's Barbershop Quartet. As for people thinking about your input--take it as a compliment (which you seem to). I think that when you choose to argue something earnestly, people listen. Protonk (talk) 01:00, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, you need to see the real thing. The film "Let it Be" is not on official DVD, but there are none-too-official DVDs on eBay (and the law says it is okay to buy a bootleg, but not sell one -- which I could never quite comprehend). I am glad that people do listen to me, though I suspect some of them would just as soon clobber me with a shovel rather than wait until I get to my point (which, admittedly, sometimes goes through odd detours -- in this case, the roof of the Apple Records HQ). Be well! Ecoleetage (talk) 01:06, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

My !vote

I wasn't really trying to be a dick with that !vote - however, next time I disagree with you, I'll make jokes at your expense here on your talk page : ) Wisdom89 _{(T / )} 03:49, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, no harm done -- I got a good laugh out of that. I have no problems being the butt of a good-natured funny comment. :) Ecoleetage (talk) 15:50, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the BARN and your kind words

-- Tinu Cherian - 15:49, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Formalities

If you'd like to get to know me better please do so through my talk and not RfA. Thanks and have a good one. Yanksox (talk) 22:03, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Hey there, I only made that slight joke because I thought the RfA was getting a little too serious. Those discussions can get a bit rough, and I just wanted to lighten the mood a slight bit. Ecoleetage (talk) 22:15, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

I have no qualms towards either. It comes with the turf. Yanksox (talk) 22:18, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

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Notorious Online

I believe the stations myspace is an adequate source for the info provided. All the info I have gathered is off their site. Im sorry if I have caused any inconvienience but im new to wikipedia. Also myspaces have been used in the past to cite sourcesBowmandem (talk) 13:53, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Hello, new friend! Please don’t apologise – as someone who is new to Misplaced Pages, you are not expected to have a full understanding of all of the Wiki rules and requirements at the start of your editing experience. It takes some time to learn what is considered notable by Wiki standards – trust me, I made lots of mistakes before I got the hang of it! While MySpace is a fine site, citing it as the one and only independent reference for the article is not encouraged, as per WP:RS. Other Wiki articles may include mention of a MySpace page, but only as part of a much larger line-up of external links to established independent information sources. The article on Notorious Online would have a better chance of remaining here if there were independent media sources that confirm the station’s notability as a leader in Net radio -- if BBC or The Guardian or The Sun wrote about it, that would be super (and if it was on Page 3 of The Sun, even better!). If such media coverage exists, please let me know ASAP and we can work together to ensure the article remains. And if there is anything I can do to help make your Misplaced Pages experience more pleasant, just feel free to whistle. Ecoleetage (talk) 14:05, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi I have a new username as I lost my password anyway I have a local newspaper article its just there are a few personal details such as the owners full name and a photo of him. I personally dont think adding it would be appropriate due to it bieng a risk to him due to the article having a photo of him etc.Mind you if its on a newspaper website is it that much of a risk? Bowmandem2 (talk) 14:12, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay, my advice is this: save the text of the article offline. If you feel there is a problem with that article you mentioned, do not use it-- or, to talk in rhyme, leave it out when it doubt. If the article gets deleted, you can bring it back later with whatever future media coverage comes up, thus confirming notability. Thanks and be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 14:15, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Barnstar

Thanks a lot for the especially nice comments about my editing recently - it's really nice to hear, and I'll certainly be continuing my work here (when I can) 'cause I enjoy it. :-) Cheers, and happy holidays! JamieS93 17:34, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

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Congratulations...

...you have made my list of nice wikipedians!  :) Sincerely, --A Nobody 16:11, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

As Paris Hilton would say: That's hot! Ecoleetage (talk) 21:40, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Holy Land USA

DYK for The Betrayal (film)

Howdy

You got me right when my talk page was under attack by a vandal. Kinda funny actually. Thank you, mate.Rgoodermote  21:33, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

It's good to see you here. And remember -- don't let the losers win! :) Ecoleetage (talk) 21:39, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you brother, I noticed you have become and admin. Did I miss the RfA? If so, sorry. But congrats on winning. (I am not entirely sure if you were an admin before. I rarely pay attention. Sorry) Rgoodermote  21:41, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Me? No, I am not an admin. Ecoleetage (talk) 21:42, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

TW says you are an admin (I am using it to monitor my watchlist). One of the oddest glitches I have seen to date. Rgoodermote  21:49, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Really? How very peculiar. :) Ecoleetage (talk) 21:51, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it is really odd. I took a screenshot of it and highlighted it for you. screenshot here. It is on Photobucket as there is no point in wasting Misplaced Pages's space. Rgoodermote  21:56, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

See? Even TWINKLE thinks you're an administrator! :-) Robert, I see you were listening to Pink, heh. – RyanCross (talk) 09:02, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

RfA thankspam

Thanks

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Re: Barnstar

You've made my day, sir. Thanks! :) — neuro 16:02, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Smiling about New York Times access

Thanks for the smile. As a print subscriber, I get access to the entire New York Times archive. It's amazing how much of my research for articles comes from the Times, and the ability to see the entire articles has allowed me to thoroughly source so many of the DYK and other articles I've written. Feel free to reach out to me if I can help with this or anything else. Alansohn (talk) 16:37, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Hey Eco, I just discovered a great way to access the entire NYT archive FOR FREE. Each article has what I call a res code. For example, when you search Hubert Maga on the NYT search, the first nonfree result is http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20714FD3E551A7A93C3AA1789D95F448685F9&scp=2&sq=Hubert%20Maga&st=cse The F20714FD3E551A7A93C3AA1789D95F448685F9 is the res code. To access the article, you just go to http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=2&res= I cannot even begin to tell you how awesome this is! ~the editorofthewiki ~ 21:16, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Military_history/Assessment/Battle_of_Kostiuchnówka

Perhaps you would like to take a look at this article, which I think is not far from reaching the A-class status? I am looking for a native speaker to help with some copyediting issues in it as well. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 00:33, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Non-admin closure

• Engadget (AfD discussion)

I've reverted your non-admin closure here. It's not appropriate to close a discussion after only 2 hours, when the nomination is clearly in good faith, and where quite appropriate questions of whether sourcing even exists have been asked and not answered. Speeding keeping is for bad faith nominations. This nomination is clearly a good faith one. Moreover, articles without reliable and independent sources do have a real possibility of failing Deletion policy, for which a proper full discussion should be had, and a full effort to find sources (which, ironically, only the nominator seems to have done, so far) has been made. Uncle G (talk) 03:12, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

The reversion of the NAC was not a good call, in my opinion. No one accused this of being a bad faith nomination, so your repeated mention of faith seems odd. Problems with references can be fixed in editing -- that is not the purpose of AfD. Reverting the NAC only delays the obvious -- consensus is (at the moment) unanimous in favour of keeping the article and the only way it will close as delete will be through an unprecedented rush of delete !votes or a closing admin who ignores consensus. I stand by my decision to close this as per WP:SNOW and look forward to the confirmation of the decision when this discussion is closed. No hard feelings on this, either. :) Ecoleetage (talk) 03:47, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

For the record, the AfD opened at 21:04 on 16 December and was closed as a non-admin closure at 02:52 on 17 December. How did that become two hours? Ecoleetage (talk) 04:12, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

The AfD in question has been closed (9 hours after it was reopened) by admin SoWhy, who stated: "The result was speedy keep. This is a prime example of WP:SNOW." I consider this a vindication of my earlier NAC, and I am glad to see this concluded with all due speed. Ecoleetage (talk) 13:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Spencer Williams (actor)

DYK for Boy! What a Girl!

Hello Eco

Are you doing your wong queue edits again at Rfa! ;) I'm loving them, the one here was one of the best! I was laughing a lot(and still am) after this one (Support 20) ! :D Andy (talk) 18:28, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Notes at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_adminship/Undead_warrior_3#Neutral

Please take a look at my comments. I am sorry to have caused this grief, because I should have known that my comment would have caused a poor reaction. But I still think George Benson (Quaker) was notable, and a plain Google search for a guy who died 150 years ago would be irrelevant. I can't honestly support or oppose this nomination. Bearian (talk) 22:31, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

De Souza

Thakns for the complement! No, I've never been to Benin, just find it's history fascinating (and its Misplaced Pages coverage apalling). I'm trying to at least have C-class articles for all its many rulers, and perhaps more than that. Compare Hubert Maga as it is now to what it was before I worked on it. Mind you, this is just last September and Maga was the first president of Benin! It always disgusts me when people say Misplaced Pages is relatively complete just because it has 2.5 million articles. The sum of human knowledge is much greater than 2.5 million topics, and besides, something like 1 million are stubs or have cleanup tags on them! I appreciate all the DYKs you've created recently - you're shooting for 100, aren't you! ~the editorofthewiki ~ 22:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is complete...I added an article on Invasion of the Star Creatures. We hit the bottom of the barrel -- there's nothing more to add once we wind up highlighting that film! Ecoleetage (talk) 02:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Invasion of the Star Creatures

Kips Bay edit

Hey Eco. Regarding your addition to the Landing at Kip's Bay article - well, I fixed the redundancy (three warships) and a little grammatical thing (HMS stands for "his/her majesty's service" and the S isn't for "schooner"). Anyway, my point in posting was that this is in contradiction to the previous cite, in which there are only the two frigates that I had previously noted (Dave McCullough, 1776). What do you think about the discrepancy? Tan | 39 01:03, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

You are aware of what happened when George Washington reunited with Henry Knox following this conflict? Knox was at a home in lower Manhattan and Washington came to visit him late at night. But when Washington arrived at the Knox residence, he discovered the door was locked. So he banged on the door and yelled out: "Knox! Knox!" And the reply from within came: "Who's there?" And the general replied: "George!" And the reply from within came: "George who?" And then general started singing: "George, George, George of the Jungle, friend to you and me..." And over time, "Knox! Knox!" became "Knock! Knock!" You see, you can learn something on Misplaced Pages! Ecoleetage (talk) 02:11, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Remind me never to be serious with you again ;-) Tan | 39 02:12, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

RFA

I would like to nominate you for adminship. I think you would be an extremely good WP:SYSOP. Jonathan321 (talk) 01:42, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

In order to achieve that goal, one needs to go through a process called RfA. If you are not familiar with RfA, this video will give you an idea of what it is like: . Ecoleetage (talk) 04:59, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I know about WP:RFA, but I just wanted to verify with you so that you would accept. Good video though. Jonathan321 (talk) 20:36, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I am extremely touched, but I have to decline. Ecoleetage (talk) 22:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

This is incredibly weird and coincidental. The second I checked your user talk page, the "You have new messages" thing appeared. Thank you very much for the barnstar! (I'll always remember you as my first barnstar-giver.) In the future, please put barnstars on my user page. Thank you very much, Jonathan321 (talk) 22:35, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

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What happened to the hippie peace signs?

I liked giving you and Dennis a hard time about them.

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Party on. ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:52, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Keep up the good article additions too. Interesting stuff. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:34, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:AmosAndy.jpg

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:AmosAndy.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Misplaced Pages constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Misplaced Pages page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. As a side note I'm definitely not trying to template a regular. Cheers, §hep • ¡Talk to me! 00:09, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

The situation has been addressed. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Ecoleetage (talk) 00:28, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

My hippie peace sign better not turn out to be stolen goods! ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:32, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Question

Could you see if 1975 Morris earthquake is now 1500 characters? Thanks, Ceran →(cheer→chime →carol) 03:10, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind. RC seems to have done it. Thanks anyway. Ceran →(cheer→chime →carol) 03:11, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for The Notorious Elinor Lee

re: And the winner is...

Thanks again for the kind words! Have a good Christmas. Lugnuts (talk) 15:21, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Wild 90

Thanks

Just copying and pasting basic content, though. :D Abyssal (talk) 15:36, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Compuscan

Sounds like a good move ... this article would have needed to be blown up and started anew in any case, since G11 applies to spamvertisements that would need to be completely rewritten to be real articles. Blueboy96 17:18, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

The article is rewritten -- Compuscan -- with numerous references and no trace of spam. It is actually more of a stub -- it can be expanded in the near future, but right now it serves its purpose. Ecoleetage (talk) 18:06, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Holiday Greetings!

Every best wish for the festive season, Eco, and thanks for your many and varied contributions to WP through the year!! take care, Johnfos (talk) 22:48, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Best wishes from me too. Merry Christmas! :-) AdjustShift (talk) 04:33, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for this, Eco. You will always remain my trustworthy friend. I was ill for few days, so I stayed away from WP. Have a nice day. :-) AdjustShift (talk) 04:38, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the holiday cheer and I hope the season treats you well, whatever faith you may be. --AniMate 06:57, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Call 911!

Well, you see, my grandma got all boozed up on eggnog and rum and she went out into the snow and now she has hoofprints all over her...what, this isn't emergency? Damn. Oh well, happy holidays! bibliomaniac15 18:55, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy holidays

Thanks for the greeting, Eco, and happy holidays to you!! :) Aleta 21:16, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

AN notification

An action of yours has been brought up, by me, at WP:AN#AfD needs reopening?. Deor (talk) 01:44, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Please read the bottom of the AfD -- the editor who put forth the AfD requested that it be withdrawn. I was not being bold -- I was simply following the nominator's request to withdraw his nomination. Ecoleetage (talk) 01:48, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't think we're on different sides of any issue here. I have no opinion at all on the article that's the subject of the AfD; I just think the closure violated the deletion process. Deor (talk) 02:30, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, since I am of a different opinion, it would appear we are on opposite sides of the issue. Ecoleetage (talk) 02:32, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

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My pleasure! Let me know if I can ever be of help -- I'm always here for my fellow Africans. :) Ecoleetage (talk) 14:00, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

He He He

And happy Festivus for the rest of us! :) ~EDDY ~ 22:14, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Same to you. Merry Christmas! The Bald One 22:37, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Whatcha think?

Do you think this is ready enough to move to mainspace? An article on Daniel St. Piere. Schmidt, 22:58, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Now I gotta research what a DYK is. Schmidt, 00:10, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

It's up: Daniel St. Pierre. Turns out he's also an 2009 nominee for music direction. Will be adding that afer more research. Schmidt, 00:28, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Which of the factoids do you think best qualifies for a DYK? Schmidt, 15:56, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Yup. Thought that was the factoid you had in mind, but had to ask. Happy Holidays! Schmidt, 17:21, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Is THIS the right way to have done this? Now what happens? Schmidt, 20:46, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

hope you like the improvements since I posted it. Schmidt, 02:03, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Best wishes for the season

Many thanks, and to you as well! Cirt (talk) 00:28, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas, if that's okay...

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and to you as well

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...and a Happy New Years!

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Just A Simple Note

Thank you very much for the note. I do appreciate your wishes for a Merry Christmas. And to you and yours a loving Holiday Season and a Happy New Year! Remember every night when you come home, to Kiss you significant other, Hug your kids (if you are blessed with them), pet the dog, and kick the cat (yes, I’m a dog person). Happy Holidays, and again, thanks for your message. ShoesssS 01:15, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

I wish the best for you and yours. Oh, and I also rearranged the top of your userpage because I figured this is something you'd be ok with - please do revert me if I'm wrong. Cheers! Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :D} 01:55, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

No, I was not okay with it -- if an IP editor did that, it would be considered vandalism. Please don't do that again. Ecoleetage (talk) 02:13, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Israeli British

Hi. Thanks for your comment at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Israeli British. Could you explain why you don't find my nomination cogent? It seems pretty clear to me, plus I've expanded on it in the discussion. Cordless Larry (talk) 02:08, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Any thoughts on this? Just checking you didn't miss my question in amongst the Christmas wishes. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:04, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

No, sorry, no further thoughts. Ecoleetage (talk) 17:19, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

OK, fine. You should probably know, though, that closing admins are unlikely to take your opinions into account if you don't give the reasoning behind them. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:42, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

Hey Eco, thanks for the greeting! Christmas has gotten underway; we had carolers in our neighborhood, with a drink cart bringing up the rear, so I'm in good spirits. Thanks again, happy holidays to you too, and all the best in the new year. Drmies (talk) 03:32, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Me too!

Thanks for the greetings and all the best for the new year. Toddst1 (talk) 04:12, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Best wishes for the season

Merry Christmas to you too. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 04:20, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the wishes, all the best for you, too. I am not going to eat snow, icy stuff is best in a glass, filled witch some good Scotch. Greetings and Merry Christmas. Tymek (talk) 04:30, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas, Ecoleetage! Best, Paul Erik 06:03, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Best wishes for the season

NYScholar (talk) wishes you peace in return, Ecoleetage! Thank you!!

re: Merry Christmas

As to you, I am working on a template to send to a lot of people at 0:00GMT on the 25th... :D — neuro 08:51, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Seasons greetings!

—Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 10:51, 24 December 2008 (UTC) is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate the Winter Solstice or Xmas, Eid, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hannukah or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

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Uncle G

Your response to Uncle G on ANI might be sincere or it might be sarcastic. I hope it is the former. Uncle G is Good People, he has rescued more crap articles on god subjects than anyone else I know and his understanding of how the project works is very sound. If Uncle G gives you advice, it is probably best to take it in the spirit in which it is offered. Above all, people who insist on being right the whole time do tend to land in a lot of trouble, especially when that make a point of asserting how they were right all along in the face of multiple people telling them that actually they weren't. Guy (Help!) 10:58, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

When I give an expression of thanks and I am wishing someone a Merry Christmas, the only possible agenda I have is to give someone an expression of thanks and the wish of a Merry Christmas. As for the second assertion, the opinion on the issue in question is evenly split among the people who were actually part of the discussion (with an emphasis on the word opinion). Ecoleetage (talk) 13:48, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Guy has plenty of personal experience with insisting that he's right in the face of multiple people disagreeing... but, of course, those who disagree are all a bunch of "trolls" he can ignore. Happy Hanukkah! *Dan T.* (talk) 14:09, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Now, now, Dan...'tis the season and etc. Guy is a nice guy and his concerns are genuine. But thank you for the Hanukkah greetings -- I wish Judah Maccabee was here, so he could do the same thing with my home heating fuel that he did with the temple lamp's oil! :) Ecoleetage (talk) 14:13, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

The Gunsaulus Mystery

You might want to weave this thing into the bottom of the Mary Phagan article... Also, wouldn't the fact it's a lost film make for a more interesting hook? - Mgm| 10:58, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Those are fine points. I have been discouraged from using the lost film angle as a hook, since many films are lost. When I get a chance, I will add this to the Mary Phagan article. Thanks for thinking of me. Ecoleetage (talk) 13:51, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

The same to you!

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Have a good one eco! Andy (talk)

Thank you. Merry Christmas. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 14:43, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK assistance

I have an article (Randy L. Bott) at DYK that is close to expiring and needs a review (see Template_talk:Did_you_know#Articles_created.2Fexpanded_on_December_20. Would you mind taking a look? Another reviewer had some concerns, which we have resolved, but another reviewer is needed to give it the stamp of approval.

Thank you for your consideration! --Eustress (talk) 12:47, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Done! Thanks for asking me! Ecoleetage (talk) 14:25, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

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Holiday greetings

Thank you, Ecoleetage! Happy Holidays to you, too!
May everything be better than fine
in the year two thousand and nine!
Happy editing. Cheers! --PFHLai (talk) 18:25, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

What exactly is a pump up the volume keep? Is that something I should be using at AfD? Happy Holidays. Keep it real. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:16, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks man. I'm definitely going to jam out to some Detroit space rock if I can dig some up. Any suggestions? I'm not really an expert on the genre (never heard of it actually until coming across Burnt Hair Records), maybe you aren't either. What are you listening to over the holidays? Run DMC and (external links)? Where did all the beat boxes go? Have you heard any of the soundtrack music from the race films you're working on? Is it available online? ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

It's interesting stuff. I don't know much about it. I hadn't even heard of it until i saw you add some articles. Did you stumble on it or are you a cinema buff? ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:39, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the cheery seasonal note. I enjoyed the exchange on the AfD for Life Mel Honey as well. The article was so much improved over the course of the AfD that I was going to go back and withdraw the AfD but it was already closed by snowball. I believe that disagreements can usually be discussed passionately but civilly. I know I'm more of a deletionist than some editors, particularly in borderline cases. Still, my bottom line usually has to do with available WP:V and WP:RS rather than my personal opinion of notability. I hope to see you around. Cheers, Pigman☿ 19:31, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Bah Humbug!

This sums up my feelings as regards christmas. RMHED (talk) 19:43, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Admin

U know, I always thought u were an admin.--166.135.89.209 (talk) 00:37, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

And I hope he'll be one some day! :) Sincerely, --A Nobody 02:20, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

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Thanks for everything

Here's to you! Thanks for the intended nomination, and I hope I don't let you down. I appreciate the faith you have shown in me, and really appreciate everything you said in support of me on the RfA page.
Happy holidays, and here's to next year!

Thanks for the barnie. I actually celebrated my first official Christmas today with my brother and his in-laws. They taught me what an Advent calendar was and I introduced them to the joys of latkes and applesauce. AniMate 23:03, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Christmas

Merry Christmas!--WillC 07:23, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Hello Ecoleetage! I just wanted to wish you and your family a merry Christmas! May this Christmas be full of great cheer and holiday spirit. Have a great day and a wonderful New Year, from The Bald One 11:21, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Happy Clucking Holidays

DYK for 'Twas the Night Before Christmas (1977 TV special)

Happy Holidays!

Yupik would like to wish you a Merry Christmas, a Happy Chanukah, or whatever you may be celebrating at this time of year plus warm wishes for a good 2009!

Hyvää joulua ja onnellista uutta vuotta! Buriid juovllaid ja ráfálaš ođđajagi! Pyereh juovlah já luholaš uđđa ihe! Lahkoe jåvle jih buerie orre jaepie! Buorre javla ja buorre ådå jagev! God jul och gott nytt år! Hyveä roštuota! Hyveä rastavoa! С новым годом! -Yupik (talk) 20:33, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

The 100 DYK Medal

Consider this my Christmas present to you, Ecoleetage. :-) Merry Christmas, RyanCross @ 21:02, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, Ryan! After all, we should be here to create content -- and there are plenty of content holes that need to be filled. Here's to a 2009 full of new articles! Ecoleetage (talk) 13:47, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Thank you for the wishes! I´m currently travelling so my access to computers and Wiki is very very limited. But keep up the good work! Radeksz (This internet cafe computer keyboard doesn{t have tildas)

Merry Christmas

Thank you for the holiday wishes! I hope your holidays were merry and joyous. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 05:53, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

The Greatest Story Ever Told

Hello! I see you did some excellent work (again!) expanding this film article a few months back. For info, I've added in some more info on the Academy Award info, as I'm plowing through the various award categories. Have a good 2009. Lugnuts (talk) 15:29, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much! And you are doing extraordinary work in regard to expanding the Oscar coverage here. Here's hoping for a great 2009! Ecoleetage (talk) 15:45, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

Isabel Gonzalez

It is a pity, but there are no images of her. Isabel slipped into the "cracks" of history and her actions and its consequences were completely forgotten until I stumbled into the case involving her. Right now, I am waiting for the Goveernment of Puerto Rico to make its transition in January before I make a full move on having her recognized as the "Puerto Rican Rosa Parks". I have direct contact with the new vice-governor who is a friend of mine and he is all for it. Can you imagine a young women who did not know how to speak English, coming to a strange land with a city as big as New York and taking on the U.S. Government? It is story of hard core courage and she deserves tto be recognized not only in Puerto Rico, but in the United States also. Tony the Marine (talk) 03:32, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Morne Diablotins

Heh, I just clicked on Morne Diablotins and BAM! there it was, an awesome picture of a relevant volcano. As is everything you create, it looks great. Mind collaborating toward DYK? ~EDDY ~ 00:13, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Going through news results, it doesn't look like there is too much on the actual national park rather than the volcano. Ah well. Naw, I ain't too interested in race films. Besides, you're much better at them, anyway. I'm currently aiming for Hubert Maga and 2003 Bam earthquake FAs, as well as some coup and African film work, if any of this piques your interest. ~EDDY ~ 00:25, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I've often heard of how corrupt African politics can be. Maga was by no means a saint: he once tried to enslave his own country's youth to boost the economy (which was honestly is pretty bad shape then). The Beninese economy helped drive a coup practically every other year between 1963-1972. Africa is so underrepresented on Misplaced Pages as well as the rest of the world, and if we don't learn our history we may be doomed to repeat it.

On a lighter note, this website contains information on several African filmmakers. Again, the Western media practically rejects African films and rarely shows them. The best way to spread word of this is through Misplaced Pages, and perhaps someday I won't have to travel to South Africa to watch Drum. ~EDDY ~ 00:40, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for A Daughter of the Congo

Daniel St. Pierre

Re; Postage stamps and postal history of Tuscany

Thanks, Ecoleetage, but all I did was nominating it for DYK and requesting Marzocco be created in order to make a double-DYK hook. If you really like the article, tell Ecphora (talk · contribs). Cheers! --PFHLai (talk) 15:52, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your kind comments about the Tuscany stamps article. Regards from San Antonio, Texas. Ecphora (talk) 03:27, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for The Gunsaulus Mystery

When Men Betray

Hey Ecoleetage. I see you're still at it creating great content! I hope you don't mind but I recast the Google book reference. To my mind the book is the reference you used and its full citation is what's important for citation transparency and permanence. The fact that it's available online (at least for now) is a bonus; we can provide the URL in cite book so people can easily check, but its digitizing is subbordinate and isn't the heart of the actual reference.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:35, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen

It was actually for Swing! (film)...but thanks again! Ecoleetage (talk) 22:04, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: A bit of a "whoops!"

Yes, that is an issue at the moment. See Misplaced Pages talk:Did you know‎. Cirt (talk) 01:54, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Advanced Management Solutions

Thanks for the feedback, Ecoleetage, I guess I am struggling with how to provide facts without it sounding like an adertisement. The fact is there is a wiki entry for "project management software" which contains a list of software which does not include an entry for Advanced Management Solutions and its AMS REALTIME product. I noticed that all the entris in th elist have a link to an article about the relevant company and its products, so I thought I would correct the ommision. If I look at most of the other similar entries (I created th eone for Advanced Management Solutions based on the article for Artemis Software) they do not seem dissimilar to the one I have created. I only created the article because every time I updated the list with an entry, it dissapeared later. I found out that this was becaase there was no article for the list entry to link to.User:Heavy66.

I must admit, that I have found this stressful and I am not sure I can be bothered to correct Misplaced Pages's innacuracy, and whilst I understand that Article A should not exist just because Arcticle B which is pretty similar or worse exists, the process that I have gone through (so far) does not make me a fan of Misplaced Pages. I think there should be a easier way to correct innacuracies in an encyclopedia, and I think an encyclopedia should be accurate.

People new to Misplaced Pages are bound to base their contributions (at least initially) on the style/format/content of existing articles. If they write one similar to an existing one and someone spots that it contravenes a rule and should not be accepted, then if the writer points out that similar articles exist and can argue that these similar articles exist despite contraving a rule, then they should all be tagged for speedy deletion, or at least enter a forum for review and perhaps eventual deletion.

With regards to noteworthiness - well what can I say, I also believe that the content should be noteworthy, but it is hypocritical to allow some unnoteworthy stuff to stay and reject new unnoteworthy stuff in my book. Also, if something is a fact, then I think it should be includable. I am perfectly willing to just have an entry titled Advanced management Solutions with no text content underneath, if that would meet the rules - Advanced Management Solutions does exist therefor it is! As does its software AMS REALTIME.

Now I guess I am arguing a case I cannot possibly win here, as it looks like Misplaced Pages policy is unlikley to change and I am unwilling to continue being a tiny force against an immovable object, but if you ever come up with an easier way of correcting ommisions/innacuracies, please let me know.

Bye for now,

Regards,

Me.User:Heavy66.

Hey, maybe together we can come up with a way for you to win. I see you have a copy of the article online. Let me give it a look and see if I can come up with a winning formula. Ecoleetage (talk) 18:09, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much for writing the stub and the references. That was kind of you.

The reason why I started this venture was that AMS and AMS REALTIME was not present in the List of Project Management Tools http://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_project_management_software

If I look thru this list and click on the links, most of them seem salesy to me.

Thanks again,

Me.User:Heavy66. —Preceding undated comment was added at 12:25, 9 January 2009 (UTC).

DYK for Josiah Leming

Greeting

Wish You a happy new year.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Dear Eco, you recently broke 100 DYKs. Nice work. Errrr, why am I talking about DYKs???? Happy New Year! :-) AdjustShift (talk) 20:02, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Message from Eco For everyone out there in Wiki-world: I hope 2009 brings you happiness!!! Ecoleetage (talk) 22:21, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Old Man River

I was in the midst of preparing an article on a famous restaurant in western New York, but you deleted it before I finished. Can you please put it back up, and I will put a {hang on} note on it? The restaurant is notable for many reasons, but I need to add references to establish this.--Donbodo (talk) 22:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Polish culture during World War II

I am looking for a native speaker to copyedit this article, now at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Polish culture during World War II. Perhaps you'd be interested? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 00:32, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Happy New Year!

Just Stopping by. Yours Truly, M.H. 15:03, 1 January 2009 (UTC) .

Happy New Year!

Dear Ecoleetage,

Wishing you a happy new year, and very best wishes for 2009. Whether we were friends or not in the past year, I hope 2009 will be better for us both.

Kind regards,

Majorly talk 21:52, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

The Banana Splits In Hocus Pocus Park

In my defense, the version of the article I tagged did look like an advertisement for the creator's website, not a WP article but if you can turn it into an article then more power to you.

I use to watch that show as a kid too. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:08, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Best wishes!

Dear Ecoleetage,

Please accept best wishes of health, happiness and prosperity for you and yours in the new year 2009!

Nihil novi (talk) 03:28, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Films December 2008 Newsletter

The December 2008 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
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Unified Design Framework for Mobile Robot Systems

I started to create this page two days ago. You left some feedback saying that there were not enough references for the work. However, before I had the chance to remedy the situation, the page was deleted. I think this is a little harsh. Now I have to re-write the page and go through the hole process again,hoping that someone won't delete it whilst I attempt to edit it!

Hello! You can get a copy of the deleted article from several admins who provide such a service. I have called on DGG for assistance in the past -- just tell him I sent you. If you do rewrite the article, however, please be certain that the article passes the requirements of WP:RS -- the deleted article only referenced your thesis, which is not acceptable. If you need assistance in writing the article, I will be glad to provide assistance. I sincerely hope this situation is not stressful -- I know what it is like to have material deleted from Misplaced Pages. Be well and Happy 2009! Ecoleetage (talk) 11:21, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Your excellent article

Thanks so much for the kind words. Most appreciated. Cirt (talk) 13:40, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Lost Polish films

A very interesting question. I've never heard/read about it, but it is quite possible. Certainly something to research in the future (it would be nice to have an entire wiki catalogue of lost art). You may want to ask User:Molobo, who is something of an expert on those issues.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 15:15, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

re: Cannes opener

Yes, I saw a serious hole in these articles. Another user has started off some of the basic pages, and I thought I'd start going through the films/directors, etc. I hope this isn't the start of a Can(nes) of worms...! Love the work you're doing on the Oscar Micheaux films too. All the best for 2009! Lugnuts (talk) 15:42, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

RE: Carry On Wayward Son

Thanks. I'll remember that. Next time I archive I'll keep that thread. :) --Gp75motorsports 19:05, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

The Endless Forest, a page I moved, apparently needs some refs to save it from an AfD. From what I gather, the creator is new here and can't put up the keep template. --Gp75motorsports 19:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for the holiday wishes. Been mostly away for a few weeks but I appreciate the cheer and good will! Best regards -  Frank  |  talk  05:48, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Your article on Notsensibles -- very nice

Thanks very much for your comments. Glad you enjoyed reading it.--Michig (talk) 13:55, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

ZA cultural heritage

Thanks for the barnstar - my first! The real fun begins once I've finished trawling the database for interesting monuments and cultural heritage sites. I hope to get a stub type approved (for South African heritage sites), then see if there are volunteers to add co-ordinates, wikify and expand. A quick way to get some neglected historic information up, hopefully. 9Nak (talk) 14:16, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for The House Behind the Cedars

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Hal Fryar

Thanks for the positive feedback, it is appreciated. I travelled to Mozambique on an overland safari in 1999 with Which Way Adventures and loved the place. Great memories. Regards, Spy007au (talk) 14:38, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

FA

Thanks, yeah I got Lockdown (2008) to FA a few days ago. Looking to take a few more to FAC soon.--WillC 03:53, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your kind words, coming from you I am flattered. --Jmundo (talk) 17:55, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

You are a Gentleman

Thanks for your advice and help with Paul Thomas Abbott! Your debating was very good-humoured, and really helped me think about references and citations properly. You have my thanks, sir, and good will. I won't forget it! All.labour.in.vain (talk) 18:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

I love an intelligent and spirited exchange of ideas, and this was a wonderfully refreshing debate. Again, my congratulations. And I am going to head over to Amazon to see about obtaining a copy of Mr. Abbott's new book! Stay in touch and be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 18:21, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

I have a feeling the barn star was in error though, I don't recall us ever having any interaction. But thank you! I loved: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Paul Thomas Abbott. Your intro was funny, and it was touching how you changed your mind--most editors wouldn't have. Thanks again, it has been over a year since I got a barnstar. travb (talk) 20:54, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

No, we never interacted. And double no, that is not an error -- you showed kindness to a new editor (the fella who wrote up the Paul Thomas Abbott article) by detailing his options in fighting the AfD nomination. You're a class act and you deserve praise. :) Ecoleetage (talk) 21:03, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Dick's Last Resort

Thanks for reviewing my DYK -- you know how I love those green checkmarks! I recognize you from RFAs. You are always in the wrong queue, right? Lol. _shoot! 08:01, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Body and Soul (1925 film)

--Dravecky (talk) 08:06, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Veiled Aristocrats

--Dravecky (talk) 21:23, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Jewell Towne Vineyards

Great comment at this AfD discussion. I am personally drinking Pinot Noir as I write this but I do love a good Cabernet. Thanks for making Misplaced Pages a little more enjoyable! Cheers. --Captain-tucker (talk) 03:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/WereSpielChequers 2

Hi Eco, its now more than three months since Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/WereSpielChequers, and I'm contemplating running again. As you were one of the oppose votes last time I wondered if you could give me some pointers as to what you'd like to see change before my next RFA? ϢereSpielChequers 16:45, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

WP:FILMS Questionnaire

As a member of WikiProject Films, you are invited to take part in the project's first questionnaire. It is intended to gauge your participation and views on the project. At the conclusion of the questionnaire, the project's coordinators will use the gathered feedback to find new ways to improve the project and reach out to potential members. The results of the questionnaire will be published in next month's newsletter. If you know of any editors who have edited film articles in the past, please invite them to take part in the questionnaire. Please stop by and take a few minutes to answer the questions so that we can continue to improve our project. Happy editing!
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 03:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Rhinoceros (film)

Interesting new article - I'm surprised it wasn't in here before. Thanks for adding it - memories have come flooding back.--A bit iffy (talk) 19:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Let us let bygones be bygones?

Hi there. I was reading over my RfA tonight, as it was mentioned in an currently filed RfAr. I saw your post about the interaction we once had about New Page Patrolling, and I grimaced. Looking back with a fresh mind, in a calm environment (unlike RfA), I can see that you were most definitely right. I should not have templated you for not patrolling articles, and instead left you a hand-written message, if anything at all.

I wanted to extend a hand of apology to you, and hope that we can let bygones be bygones. :) NuclearWarfare _(Talk) 05:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

There is no need to apologise, because I have not been offended by anything you have done or said. Ecoleetage (talk) 18:41, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Am I Reaching?

I've noticed you are at AFD. Can you look at http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Law/Jocko_Sims and give me an honest idea of whether this merits inclusion? Thanks so much. _shoot! 10:10, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. It's up and running and so far, it's not at AfD! _shoot! 01:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Xangati

I noticed you cleaned up the article in October. In case it is not on your watch list, it is now up for deletion. travb (talk) 13:02, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I gave the editor the nominating delete editor a Barnstar, That was noble that he closed the AfD. I pray that he will hesitate before nominating another article the next time....We worked together pretty well as a team on that one. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help you, including current AfDs. travb (talk) 02:41, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

I am real happy to work with you.

I am excited for the first time in all of my 4 years on wikipedia. I feel like I can really make a difference in the project. I am sure you have seen those notes I have put on creator's pages. That is only one of several avenues I am pursuing.

Thank you for your hard work, we worked seamlessly together in that most recent AfD.

I don't think you get enough recognition for the incredible and inspiring work that you do. travb (talk) 04:49, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Currencies of Puerto Rico

Thanks, I still have a few alternatives up my sleve if the book source becomes an issue, regards. - Caribbean~H.Q. 19:42, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Notability not confirmed

Thanks for your note. I'm a little surprised to get this note from you. Unfortunately, CSD#A7 only applies to those articles with no asserting significance, and this is a lower standard than notability. Notability need not be confirmed to save an article form speedy deletion, no matter how much I think it would be justified. We need to change criteria for A7 to "no assertion of notability." Hoax is not a speedy deletion criterion, much as thing it should be. <sigh> Till then, prod will have to do.

I realize some admins tend to WP:IAR speedily delete some article. There is a feeling among some that this leads to hasty deletion of articles that should be expanded. Certainly, I have seen it occur where an article about a clearly notable subject was tagged for speedy deletion. We all make mistakes. I share your feelings about the article in question, however there is an assertion of significance, and we could be wrong about it being certainly not notable. We lose nothing in waiting for the creator to come up with something. Hence the PROD.

On the other hand, introducing false info into Misplaced Pages can be construed as vandalism. (I did not try to find the video's, did not want to risk malware or a virus.) As you have verified that the info is false, I will go ahead and delete that way. This is the first time someone has appealed me not deleting the article. Usually, it goes the other way. Cheers, and happy editing. Dlohcierekim 20:37, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Done. And want to commend you for taking the time to perform due diligence. If everyone took the time and made the effort to check things out, we'd have fewer hasty deletion problems. Cheers again. Dlohcierekim 20:44, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Macrophage

Review

Would you mind reviewing my newest DYK (here) when you get a chance. And FYI, I've started giving back and reviewing others' DYKs :) Best regards! --Eustress (talk) 00:07, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt attention and continued community service! --Eustress (talk) 01:17, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Wow...your appreciation was totally unexpected and very meaningful, coming from a high-caliber editor like you. Thank you for your thoughtfulness! --Eustress (talk) 01:17, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Infinity Hall

--Dravecky (talk) 09:23, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Soon you'll have your own Infinity Hall of DYKs. ;-) — RyanCross (talk) 09:30, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Heya!

Hey there, mon ami! Things are well (and busy) in my part of the world/Wikipedia ... how's things with you? (talk→ Bwilkins / BMW ←track) 22:02, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

La vie est belle -- both here and in that annoying miasma called the real world! Be well and keep doing what you're doing! Ecoleetage (talk) 22:08, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Ecoleetage was inducted into The Hall of The Greats

Whoa! Hello, mama, and welcome to Eco’s Place. Where have I been all of your life? :) Ecoleetage (talk) 18:12, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

I felt that the Sebastian Bonnet deletion was a bit unfair, especially with someone saying that "reliable sources could be found." Thanks for doing the right thing, rather than point fingers of blame at others for not doing anything.Ryoung122 18:47, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, I must say that I never heard of Mr. Bonnet prior to researching the article. Fascinating way to make a living, all things considered. :) Ecoleetage (talk) 18:58, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the Barnstar

Though I don't really deserve it, it's certainly gratifying and I'll keep it on my talk page. Jlg4104 (talk) 15:03, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

You're RFA

I'd like to wish you luck in your RFA which I supported. I do have some advice though...

1. Try to let this one run it's course even if the "opposse" gets a little nasty. I looked at the last one which you withdrew and it looked like it had an outside chance of passing if left open.

2. Stop responding to opposes no matter how ridiculous they are. Doing so has derailed RFAs in the past. Allow others to rebut them or the closing crat to give them the weight they deserve.

Once again, good luck. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 16:55, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

RFA

I would like 2 sheep, 3 pigs and 5 chickens. Oh, sorry, wrong queue! :D Anyway best of luck with it. I hope you are an admin in this one! Andy (talk) 17:34, 14 January 2009 (UTC)