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The result was keep. The Nordic Goddess Kristen 00:04, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Aloysius (Waugh)

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A teddy bear mentioned relatively briefly in a novel does not seem to meet WP:N. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djlayton4 (talk • contribs)

• Keep. A teddy bear considered important by the Stratford-upon-Avon Teddy Bear Museum seems to be notable to me. While I haven't read the novel, I'm under the impression that the teddy bear receives more than a brief mention. According to this article "purists" consider the bear an important part of the novel. See also additional reliable sources to the one in the article: . JulesH (talk) 09:06, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
• If this is kept, it should be renamed Aloysius (teddy bear) - Mgm| 11:02, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 11:11, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
• Keep - Notable fictional stuffed bear. Clearly influential on the cultural depiction of teddy bears in late 20th century Britain. Additionally, Aloysius has a brief speaking role in Jasper Fforde's novel The Well of Lost Plots. I think (though I may be wrong) that the bear's full name is Aloysius Flyte, which is preferably to the present title, although Aloysius (teddy bear) would be just fine too. AlexTiefling (talk) 17:14, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
• Keep - Aloyisius is key to Sebastian Flyte's character and description. The teddy bear figures prominently in the novel; in fact, the first time the narrator, Charles Ryder, sees Sebastian he is holding Aloysius and buying a comb with which to threaten him if he behaves badly. The references to the bear continue throughout the novel and should not be discounted. --Bennett0509 (talk) 08:19, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
• Keep Bridehead Revisited is one of the great novels of the last century, and has led to a celebrated TV adaption and to a less celebrated, but more recent, film. The characters in the book are all, I should say, notable. The fact that this particular character is a teddy bear does not diminish his importance as a character. He is, in fact, one of the characters most people remember most vividly. He appears on the cover of the box set of videos of the TV adaptation. The teddy bear is a very important figure in western culture, and especially in British culture, where the teddy bear seems to hold a very special place in the national consciousness. For historians of the teddy bear, Aloysius must rank as one of the great literary representations of the bear, second only to Winnie the Pooh. The character of Sebastian is very hard to understand without his bear. The incident with the hairbrush with which the bear is to be punished is clearly an important comment on the affinity that the English upper class has always had with corporal punishment. Teddy bears and spanking are two defining characteristics of English upper-class mores, and they are united in the character of Aloysius. I was unaware of the intertextual treatment of Aloysius, but this certainly needs to be added to the article. I'm sorry if this is the most elegantly written comment, but I am in a hurry.--Oxonian2006 (talk) 16:31, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

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