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The historian should be fearless and incorruptible; a man of independence, loving frankness and truth; one who, as the poet says, calls a fig a fig and a spade a spade. He should yield to neither hatred nor affection, but should be unsparing and unpitying. He should be neither shy nor deprecating, but an impartial judge, giving each side all it deserves but no more. He should know in his writings no country and no city; he should bow to no authority and acknowledge no king. He should never consider what this or that man will think, but should state the facts as they really occurred. -- Lucian (from user:Scimitar)

Art

User:Sam Spade/Art and artists

Ed Poor

If you are serious about wanting Ed Poor off the committee, state your case at Misplaced Pages:Mediation Committee/Ed Poor. I will contact every single mediator and have them vote, arbcom style. If there's a consensus to kick him out, he will be kicked out. I myself will act as the top judge and will monitor it and will not vote. If the link above becomes blue, leave a message at my talk page and I'll proceed with the case. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:15, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks very much for your welcome!! I hope that I'll be able to contribute much. I'm currently working on dumping my knowledge of video game lore into certain appropriate articles. :-) ParallaxTZ 23:24, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Your articles will be read, that much is certain ;) Sam Spade 00:50, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Dated user message

Hi. Your user welcome message is signing as 31 August 05. See User talk:ParallaxTZ. Thought you'd like to know.. Secretlondon 00:28, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Yep, it gives the time stamp from when I last edited it. Thanks tho. Sam Spade 00:36, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks, I used a number of dictionaries which helps me to build a good one. - Vaikunda & Raja

Re: welcome

Thanks for the welcome. I'm slowly finding my way around. JohnSankey 08:39, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Hope those links help! Cheers, Sam Spade 14:25, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Archiving Talk:Psychoanalysis

I understand the practical reasons for archiving. I do wonder, though, what this does to the cumulativity of discussions. Not that unarchived Talk pages are necessarily consulted for background systematically.... --Macrakis 18:19, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

I didn't archive this particular page, but I do often archive after coming to a contentious page. Such pages usually have alot of long winded debate, and I find it best to clear the air and allow for people to take a fresh start periodically ;) Sam Spade 19:02, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

human

On June 2nd you suggested adding this to the introduction of the article for "Human":

A concept current within the scientific community is that human evolution occured in response to a need for long distance running. Humans are said to be one of a short list of animals with such a capacity.

It (the above 2 sentences) were later added to the article and they are still in the current version of the article in this form:

One current hypothesis within the scientific community is that the human evolution of bipedalism (two-legged locomotion) occurred in response to a need for long-distance running. Humans are said to be one of a short list of animals with such a capacity.

I agree that the origin of human bipedal locomotion is an important issue, but I think that mention of specific speculative ideas about it is not the best thing to include right at the start of the article for "Human". Nobody knows how or why humans became bipedal. A list of speculations about the origin of human pipedal locomotion could be added to Human evolution or some other page dealing with human origins. Since these speculations are tentative, they should be presented on a page along with citations to specific references.

My suggestion is that these two sentences be replaced with something like: "Current evidence indicates that bipedal locomotion in the human lineage evolved before the large human brain. The evolutionary origins of human bipedal locomation and its role in human brain evolution are topics of on-going research." --JWSchmidt 13:47, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure if you've looked over Talk:Human, but the discussion regarding the intro filled up a number or archives ;) Still, if you'd like to see this changed (I an decidedly neutral myself), I would recommend mentioning it there. Sam Spade 14:16, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

See Talk:Human#intro. Cheers, Sam Spade 14:32, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your welcome and for the links.

Ciao! Trifola 14:30, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Glad to have you! Sam Spade 14:33, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Bektashi

Thank you for your comment about the Bektashi article. However, I would like to ask you to comment in more detail, i.e., clarify what you think about the appropriateness about these jokes and the accusation/offensive comment directed against me by freestylefrappe. Thanks again. AldirmaGonul 14:59, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Ok, will do. Sam Spade 15:02, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Höðr and Lóðurr

Hi, Sam! :)

There's currently a vote underway on Talk:Höðr on whether Höðr should be moved to Hodur and another at Talk:Lóðurr on whether Lóðurr should be moved to Lodur. I know you've edited Höðr in the past and I thought you might be interested. Your opinion is valued if you are. - Haukur Þorgeirsson 18:26, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome

Greetings, and thanks for your letter. I've been learning a lot on the fly, as probably a good many editors have; but the links shall be very useful, and I will hang on to them. (Actually, when I saw the flag, "You have messages," I thought I was either (1) in trouble for something; or (2) getting some abuse from some vandals that have been attacking the Code: Lyoko page. I've been helping to fend them off over the weekend, but it's just teen larking, AFAIK.

Peace be to you.

I obviously still don't have a total command of the Wiki. That other message was from me. And this is probably wasting bandwitdth, so I'll shut up (grin).

Harperbruce 14:22, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Sounds like your often to an excellent start! I'll have a look @ Code: Lyoko. Cheers, Sam Spade 21:48, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Herman Buttfor is a sassy lass

Yikes. That was obviously not what I intended. Dystopos 13:17, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

"no jumping que"

It's spelled "queue". -- Antaeus Feldspar 01:09, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you, Sam!

Florida article about Jim Wales and wikipedia

Hi, Sam There's an interesting article about Jim wales and wikipedia. http://www.floridatrend.com/issue/default.asp?a=5617&s=1&d=9/1/2005

Interestingly, Jim is virtually unknown in Florida, where he lives and is more famous outside the Us.

Raj2004 00:33, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

That is an extremely good article, thank you! I'm going to post it on the mailing list. Sam Spade 13:56, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

See . Cheers, Sam Spade 14:01, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

No problem, Sam

Raj2004 00:57, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Arbiter refuses to discuss mistakes

This does not strike me as a sound revert, nor the right wording regarding it. Please be more careful with reverts and edit summaries. Sam Spade 20:59, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

The revert was sound, the reasoning was sound, and please do not bring up 3 month old edits on my Talk: page any more. Jayjg 00:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

If there was any basis for that revert (which you have chosen not to explain) the personal attack was of course unwarranted.

I will continue to bring attention to unfortunate misuses of the revert function, and politically motivated personal attacks in the edit summaries. If you refuse to accept or discuss your mistakes, and they continue, I will of course go forward with the next step of the Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution process. Sam Spade 12:35, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

User Page!?

AWESOME JOB ON IT! like a professional:D User:Xino

Have you seen the sub-pages? I'm still working on those, of course... Sam Spade 23:37, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

o_O.You got Sub Pages.. lets check it..out

Nice awards...wait a minute did you steal them and put your name on it

don't worry i don't need an award, i may even own this Wiki

by the way.. your Internet Logo, doesn't come up has "W" it comes up has "Y" Yahoo sig..thats cool><ino 06:55, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Which logo? Sam Spade 14:28, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

FYI

I just posted "The lies/misrepresentations that constitute this hatchet job can be appreciated by studying the involved set-up behind this misrepresentation: "he posted a list of 12 things that I must do before he will leave me alone". How about: "He was goaded into stating what would make him comfortable enough to throw away the subpages he thought he might need if an attack like this one were to occur." So that it could here be taken out of context, misrepresented, and used as a weapon against him. These bullies make me sick." at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/FuelWagon 2. WAS 4.250 10:23, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree with you, and wish your comment was an outside view of its own, so I could endorse it. As it is its in a subsection on terrorism, and I am not well aquainted enough w the particulars to endorse it there. Sam Spade 14:27, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Hello

Thanks a lot for the links. I really want to try and contribute to wikipedia and I've been nervous about making large additions to any page. These will help a lot.

Seirscius 23:09, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Reinsertion of Material in Time Cube

Hi. In this edit, you reinserted lists of quotes from the Time Cube website. This material was previously controversial. It would be greatly appreciated if you enumerated your reasons for this reinsertion on the talk page. Thanks. — Ambush Commander 18:12, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Hindu denominations

Sam, I agree with you that most Hindus probably don't fall into any denomination and adopt smarta beliefs. Of those who choose a denomination, most are Vaishnavites. On the other hand, those who agree with the inclusive monotheism model do fall into smarta category.

Among Brahmins, smarta is a common distinction to distinguish between Brahmins who follow Madhva; i.e., Madwas, or Ramanuja, Srivaishnavite Brahmin or Saivite Brahmin such as Iyer.

Thanks, Raj2004 23:04, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Adi Shankara

In what sense is it "bad form" to revert edits whose main function was to turn decent English into poorer English? I don't, for example, insist on changing so-called "split infinitives", but I can't see the point of an edit that deliberately inserts one where the text originally avoided it. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 21:40, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

They made alot of edits, most of them good. Reverts are not ment for such purposes. Sam Spade 01:30, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

"most of them good". Which? One or two were, and I kept those. You, on the other, simply reverted everything.

"Reverts are not ment for such purposes." I don't know what this means, except that you disagreed with my reverting the edits. I wanted an explanation, not a mere repetition of your position. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:51, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

I have made the necessary edits, please avoid reverts in the future. Sam Spade 20:42, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

I added the following to Mel's talk page: Split infinitive says In the present day, all reference texts of grammar deem simple split infinitives unobjectionable..

I wonder if I should have also quoted where it says a split infinitive can remove ambiguity or where wikipedia says not to pointlessly revert. I never can tell where the line is between not providing enough data (Why didn't you say so?) and providing too much (What do you think I am - an idiot?) WAS 4.250 23:54, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm at a near total loss as to what to do about mel. In reality, I think its less his fault than the wikipedia's social structure, which rewards cliqueness and discourages well reasoned discussion. We need a different method of Reputation management. Of course, w Jimbo's recent decision to micromanage the Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2005, and the sort of discussion I see on the Misplaced Pages:Mailing list... I don't have over much hope.

My answer is to focus on doing what I enjoy, reading and writing high quality encyclopedia articles, and talking to nice people (like yourself), rather than messing about w users like mel. Sam Spade 00:00, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Nice one

Thanks for that mate, being blocked is amazingly annoying. Martin 19:08, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Your welcome, having been controvercially blocked twice now I can empathise. The wikipedia needs more rewards, and less punishments. We are volunteers after all, not prisoners, and focusing on punishments (blocks, arbcom, criticism) as we do drives away good contributors, and encourages malevolent ones. Sam Spade 19:13, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Template/Workshop

You, or any Misplaced Pages user, can contribute your suggestions and comments to the /Workshop page of any active arbitration case. Comments on evidence or proposals can help in understanding the import of evidence and in refining proposals. Proposed principles, findings of fact, or remedies may be listed on /Proposed decision and form part of the final decision. Fred Bauder 14:50, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I understand that, altho I usually contain my statements to the evidence page, not wanting the workshop to become overly cluttered. Indeed as you can see here, I advise against excessive use of the workshop page. Are you meaning to say you'd prefer more comments be made there? Also, what was this about rewards? ;)

Cheers, Sam Spade 15:32, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

The rumor is that should a members advocate (rather than wikilawering) contributed a suggestion which was used User:Kelly Martin would "buy them a drink." Yes Workshop provides a platform for lengthy effusions; but constructive and thoughtful suggestions are more welcome. Can't have too many of those. Fred Bauder 15:48, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Hmm... not sure my wife would allow that! Anyways, I will begin to make suggestions in the workshops, if nothing else it will provide an example of the sorts of decisions I might make, and should give you some food for thought. Thank you for your informations, Sam Spade 16:08, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Hello Sam

Gee Sam, you are supposed to be a friendly user! Lol. Just kidding. :) I appreciate your vote, but if you think my "campaigning" for votes was wrong, it was because of this reason. A couple of users voting oppose were rallying support against me. See the following: , , (+ there are even more). I didn't think that was fair. Btw, I simply asked all the users I have had contact with before, and I just asked them to vote, not necessarily support. Thank you for your concern. --a.n.o.n.y.m 03:25, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

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