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Well... Since this page is on EnWiki, perhaps it would be useful to give an approximate English equivalent of a type of corporate, or a translation of its name. I know that "Misplaced Pages is not Wiktionary (a dictionary)", but given only a Spanish name like "Sociedad de responsabilidad limitada" I have no idea what the abbriviation actually stands for. (Well, in this case I do have, but just because a similar French type is very close to it. :-)
i got a quite complete list of international types of corporations, maybe i can upload it sometime and this article could be made complete ---
Limited Corporation
Does anybody know if "Limited Corporation" is a legal business status in the United States. If so, what is its abbreviation, and how does it differ from a Corporation (Inc.) and Limited Liability Company (LLC)?
-Brian in Wilton, CT
World-wide type of company
Just wondering, when companies expand multi-nationally, is there a particular symbol/corporation mark that is used? If so, should this be put into the wiki? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MonsieurAquilone (talk • contribs) 08:32, 18 December 2006 (UTC).
Canada
I'm surprised Canada is not on the list of countries. I'm curious how they operate there. Do the provinces control them? Are things different in Quebec? etc. Do they follow other British Commonwealth practice such as that of Australia? --Larry G 08:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Depending on whether you want to operate in one province or across Canada you can choose to incorporate provincially or federally. There are indeed differing methods and rules concerning corporations from province to province. Even if you don't incorporate federally, you can expand your scope of operation into other provinces using extra-provincial incorporation. I am pretty sure in BC you are required to have at minimum a secretary and a president. I agree it would be nice to see more Canadian methods of operation here. Bzzhuh 18:48, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
merge with types of companies
certainly not. Hmains 04:09, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
No. They should be kept separate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.145.157.132 (talk) 10:31, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know diddly about the difference between companies/corporations/etc., but I'll take you guys' word for it. I have removed the merge tag. jwillbur 00:51, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
The source of the confusion here is that in some countries (eg the US) "corporation" is a type of "company" (a more broadly defined business entity which includes partnerships), whereas in other countries (eg the UK) a "company" is a type (the main type) of "corporation" and does not (in normal usage) include a partnership. So the distinction is meaningless to some and important to others. There is no easy solution to this other than to merge the two articles and call it "Types of business entity". But you would then have to decide whether and how you classified them. E.g some corporations (e.g. an Unlimited Company) do not have limited liability, some business entities are not legal persons (e.g. partnerships in England but not in Scotland), some corporations do not have shareholders, etc. Mhockey (talk) 12:49, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
- The fact that this confusion exists is surely an excellent reason to abandon the separate "Types of companies" and "Types of corporations" lists, and to make a single list or table, entitled (as you suggest) "Types of business entity". Has there been a discussion on a merge proposal somewhere else? I deduce from the above posts that there was a proposal but it was withdrawn. In any case, both articles (particularly the companies one) are in sore need of work.--Kotniski (talk) 16:57, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Please Separate Articles Again !
Ladies and Gentlemen, PLEASE :
return the original SEPARATE page for "types of corporations": CHANGE ITS TITLE if you want (eg to "alphabetical list of company abbreviations" or something), and have a link between the two articles at the very beginning of each...BUT: PLEASE return the old one as it was, for two very simple reasons:
1. it makes it HUGELY simpler to compare and contrast similar company abbreviations between countries;
2. it was a useful Alphabetical list presented IN A WIKITABLE SORTABLE which could, IN ANY CASE, be re-arranged by country anyway - thus actually making THAT article much more useful than THIS one...
It's true - it was somewhat confusing to have two separate tables in that one, but this could be easily solved by making one table and simply adding an extra column in which the business entity is specified as a "company", "corporation", "sole trader" or whatever.
I've known both articles for several months now and had both in my internet favorites for easy reference to aid me with further research (i'm a translator, by the way, often translating business and politics articles), and used to find the OTHER (table-based) article MUCH more useful than this one - as, I am sure, many other people also did - as it was clear and to the point. And, as i said above, covered the same topic this one does through the fact that the table could easily be sorted by country.
(FURTHERMORE - I feel it had more direct links to articles on the various company types, which have not been completely transferred to this one).
So, again...PLEASE return the old one ALSO. (the IT system at the agency i work at does not allow us to enter registration pages on the net, hence why i am not a registered user).
At the VERY least...please make THIS article some sort of Wikitable-Sortable, for comparison purposes...
I eagerly await a decision on the matter
Thank You62.176.111.68 (talk) 08:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- Well, no harm in resurrecting the old table which used to be at Types of companies, if you find it useful. You'll find it in that page's edit history. But it had much less information in it than this one, and probably won't be developed (at least, we don't want the maintaining/developing effort to be split between two pages, and this one is now in a far better state than that one was), so I wouldn't want it to be at a place which had too many links going to it. So not at types of companies, but something that doesn't exist yet, like List of business abbreviations or whatever, with just the one link from this page.--Kotniski (talk) 16:14, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
excellent suggestion about the "list of business abbreviations", i'm all for that, thanks. that would be cool - simply have one link to that page from this one and nothing else, and keep THIS page as the main page everything else links to (and obviously, have a note on the other one saying main article: types of business entity).
could you please send me - or post here - a more precise link to the ORIGINAL history page that you mention, however, since the "history" of it seems to automatically go to the history of the CURRENT page (kinda like in Back to the Future II ! :-) ). I just can't seem to find it...
Thanks, Nic
ps. could You resurrect it tho, please, or ask someone who is interested in doing so, since, as i said, i can't register on Wiki and do it myself... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.176.111.68 (talk) 19:48, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- I've resurrected it onto (a subpage of) your IP-numbered talk page.--Kotniski (talk) 09:17, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Proposed treatment
To try and tidy up this and the Types of companies page, I would suggest the following (per above):
- Merge the two into a new page called (something like) Types of business entity
- Format the new page as a list, by country (i.e. like this page is as present, not as a table like on the "companies" page)
- Tidy up the entries, removing vague or incomprehensible information, preferring simply to indicate rough equivalence to referenced entities, something like this for the first two countries:
Albania
- Sh.A., Sh.a. (Shoqëri Anonime): ≈ PLC (UK)
- Sh.p.K., Sh.p.k. (Shoqëri me Përgjegjësi të Kufizuar): ≈ Ltd. (UK)
Argentina
- S.A. (Sociedad Anónima): ≈ PLC (UK)
- S.R.L. (Sociedad de Responsabilidad Limitada): ≈ Ltd. (UK)
- Sociedad en Comandita: ≈ limited partnership
Of course, those countries which have more specific information will stay looking much as they do now.
I think this is necessary, since much of this list at present is hard to understand or even misleading. And there seems to be no reason to keep corporations and companies in separate lists, since even now the distinction is not being respected (and would be meaningless anyway for most countries). The tabular form (which allows sorting by abbreviation or by country) might seem a neat idea, but in practice I can't imagine anyone wanting to browse these other than by country, and to me the list looks tidier and more flexible than the table.--Kotniski (talk) 18:19, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
- I have started tidying the entries as illustrated above; down to Germany so far.--Kotniski (talk) 11:50, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Last call for any opposition to the move to Types of business entity - if no objections are forthcoming, I'm going to move it.--Kotniski (talk) 18:47, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Doesn't Netherlands have this: Comm.VA (Commanditaire Vennootschap op Aandelen)/SCA (Société en Commandite par Actions): limited partnership with shares? 62.65.236.175 (talk) 05:33, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Kenya
Why is Kenya missing?
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