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This user believes in the use of semi-protection for all Biographies of living people.
This user demands flagged revisions NOW and refuses to do vandal fighting.

I recognize that this user page belongs to the Misplaced Pages project and not to me personally. As such, I recognize that I am expected to respectfully abide by community standards as to the presentation and content of this page, and that if I do not like these guidelines, I am welcome either to engage in reasonable discussion about it, to publish my material elsewhere, or to leave the project.

     (from User:Mindspillage/userpages)

Intent of this page

This page is intended to capture a list of BLPs that are candidates for, or have already received, semiprotection from me (or one of my TPWs), because they have been the target of simple vandalism from IPs or newly registered users that was not swiftly dealt with.

Criteria for listing an article here

The criteria are (fairly arbitrarily chosen):

  • The article is a BLP
  • Since the last time semiprotection expired (if any), the article has received:
    • EITHER at least two vandalisms from IPs or newly registered users (the kind of vandalism that semiprotection stops) each of which lasted at least 5 minutes before being reverted,
    • OR one vandalism from an IP or newly registered user that lasted at least an hour before being reverted.
    • OR 10 vandalisms (of any duration, even momentary) within any 1 month span from IPs or newly registered users.
  • You are willing to sign your name requesting that it be protected. No anons or newly registered users, sorry. (you'll note THIS page is semiprotected to enforce that)

Listing process

This is intended to be a simple process. To list a BLP give the following things:

  • A link to the article.
  • A link to a diff showing each qualifying vandalism and how long it lasted.
  • If the vandalism is by a newly registered user rather than an IP, give a link to the log for that user.
  • Your signature.

Evaluation process

To handle a BLP do the following:

  • Be an admin. I can't help you with this one.
  • Visit the article, make sure it's a BLP
  • Review each diff.
    • Is it vandalism?
    • Is it by an IP or a newly registered user (check the user log linked)?
    • Walk the diff forward. How long did the vandalism stand? Was it at least 5 minutes? Was it at least an hour?
    • Count... 2 - five min or more, or 1 - one hour or more, and we have a "winner" If not, we have a "loser"
  • In the case that the article is a "winner":
    • Semi protect the article.
      • Set the protection to 1 year
      • Include
        Per liberal use of semiprotection policy, please consult with me before unprotecting
      in the reason box.
      • Add
        {{pp-semi-vandalism|small=yes}}
      at the top of the article so it's known that it's semiprotected.
    • Strikeout the article name in the list.
    • Below the entry (use "#:" to indent) say "done" or similar and sign. You can say more if you want.
  • If the article is a "loser":
    • Do NOT semi protect the article.
    • Explain why you did not (use "#:" to indent), and sign your name.
  • In the case that the lister didn't list it right and you can't sort out what to do anyway:
    • Explain what the lister did wrong (use "#:" to indent)
    • Sign your name.

Easy peasy.

Discussion? Questions? Use the Talk page. This should be a list (with yea/nay remarks) only, not a debate or discussion.

Articles

Here are the articles so far. They are categorized into protected, rejected, and pending review

Protected

These articles have been protected. I'll move items here periodically, unless other (less lazy and more helpful) people beat me to it.

March 2009

  1. Chris Brown How about this? Semi-protection expired earlier today and it's being hit hard again. Enigma 23:32, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
  2. Nancy Grace is an especially frustrating BLP. Can you review the recent edits and possibly semi-protect? It's difficult for me to sort out. Thanks. PS- If you don't want protection requests, let me know. I don't want to dump it on you. Enigma 23:52, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
    Needs template added, the little one is good. ++Lar: t/c 20:24, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. Jay Cutler is getting hit hard. BLP that needs long term semiprotection. Enigma 04:46, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
  4. R.A. Thorburn - Not even convinced of his notability, and no one is watching his article but me. Please make a judgment call about notability, the content of the article, and if it is to remain, its protection status. Thanks, Enigma 22:04, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
    Without respect to notability... I leave that to you. Needs template added. ++Lar: t/c 20:24, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
  5. Chuck Liddell is a frequent target of vandalism from IPs. Constructive contributions from IPs there is very rare indeed. Enigma 04:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
  6. Andy Dick- Another BLP that needs semiprotection. Enigma 06:41, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
  7. Rick James - Frequently targeted by vandals. I've removed perhaps hundreds of BLP violations. Enigma 20:56, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

April, 2009

  1. Derrick Rose - Semi-protection? Enigma 03:54, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Stephen Curry (basketball) The latest instance of borderline defamation stuck around for over four and a half hours. Enigma 20:07, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. Pauly Shore is the worst side of Misplaced Pages. If I had the ability, I would probably semi-protect indefinitely. I gutted the article at one point because if was chock full of defamation that was at least a year old. Enigma 04:59, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
    Semiprotected for six months. Risker (talk) 05:06, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
    Thanks Risker, I was looking at it when you beat me to it. I have been going a year though. ++Lar: t/c 05:25, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
  4. Suzanne Muldowney - Trashy article. Not sure what to do with it, but I suggest the first step be semi-protection. Enigma 05:41, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
    I scanned the recent history quickly, but didn't see the obvious vandalism(s) that would justify a semi. The stuff added seemed (while not particularly encyclopedic) fairly good faith. But I may not know the subject very well, can you let me know what diff you think represents vandalism? Thanks. ++Lar: t/c 14:08, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
    I was concerned by this and it's not the first time I've been forced to take to that article with a cudgel. Enigma 15:04, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
    Missed the bottom part of that one. Thanks. Done. ++Lar: t/c 15:58, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
  5. Gary_Dell'Abate - Connected to Howard Stern show. Like Eric the Midget, is thus a likely defamation target. Enigma 20:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
    the article is an OR haven currently, I didn't review the history regarding vandalism/libelishness. --Rocksanddirt (talk) 00:32, 7 April 2009 (UTC) there are two or three minor blp violations in the last week or so, all from ip's. --Rocksanddirt (talk) 00:38, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
    Semi'd, ya that counts. ++Lar: t/c 05:53, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
  6. Damon Jones – this was live for over six hours.
  7. Charlie Villanueva – this was live for over five hours. Zagalejo^^^ 08:02, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
    Did both of the above. ++Lar: t/c 23:17, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
    Awesome, thanks. Zagalejo^^^ 02:09, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
  8. CC Sabathia - Name vandalism. Name is sourced within article. Vandalism stuck over a day. Also repeated stuff like this, usually reverted within minutes. Enigma 07:20, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
    That first one isn't "simple" vandalism, it's just wrongheadedness about the use of periods. Could be good faith. Do you have another diff like the second one? ++Lar: t/c 11:27, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
    isn't simple defamation, but it's definitely vandalism, and it lasted for over 8 hours until I mass-reverted. Enigma 14:41, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. ++Lar: t/c 21:34, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
  9. Richard Dawkins well known scientist who patiently keeps explaining evolution to the creationists. Latest semi recently lapsed, I'm not going to protect it myself as I'm too involved in the edit wars there; but can an uninvolved admin take a peep? ϢereSpielChequers 08:54, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
    Hi, please see the criteria and listing process. I want the addition of semi to be water tight, so I want to see the requisite number of diffs showing simple vandalism, as outlined above. This is supposed to be an easy process for the admin who adds the protection. Can you please supply 1, 2 or 10 vandalism diffs (depending on their times) done by IPs or newly registered users? Thanks! (PS I'm really glad you came by, and hope that this process isn't too hard... but I want these protections to stick! Let me know on the talk page if you think there's room for improvement, I just formalised this yesterday.) ++Lar: t/c 11:27, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
    9 minutes, 4 & 6 minutes ϢereSpielChequers 11:54, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. ++Lar: t/c 00:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
  10. Jonathan Ross I think qualifies for this and that reason; but I would prefer that an uninvolved admin make the call as I've probably edited that page. ϢereSpielChequers 13:08, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. ++Lar: t/c 00:56, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
  11. David Wright (baseball) - , . Recent vandalism that stuck for hours. Also and . Enigma 20:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. ++Lar: t/c 00:56, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
  12. Braylon Edwards - , , , . Apparently was targeted by a messageboard. Enigma 20:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
    Needs 2 that are 5 min or more, or 10 total. Maybe I should change that criteria, as those 4 are over 10 min total. The better diff to show is the one showing the vandalism being removed, rather than the one showing it being added. That's the one that shows how long it lasted. ++Lar: t/c 00:56, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
    over an hour and a half Enigma 00:21, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. ++Lar: t/c 05:42, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
  13. Ralph Lauren - , . One vandal removes some vandalism and adds more. Both took far too long to be removed. Also and , which still hasn't been removed, but I'll go revert now. Enigma 05:49, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. Keep them coming... tell your friends :) ++Lar: t/c 22:09, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
    I don't have too many people watching my talk page and I don't intend to advertise this. :P I actually believe it would have a detrimental effect. Getting a few other sympathetic admins to help out would be a bonus, however. I asked one, but didn't get a reply. Enigma 23:50, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
  14. Manny Pacquiao - Repeated vandalism of everything by IPs, including his boxing record (vandalism stuck for hours), results of a future match (stuck for a while), etc. Apologies for not providing the diffs in the right format, but this is a repeated vandalism target by IPs and its a pain in the neck to sort through. It has an impressive protection record. Enigma 05:46, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. ++Lar: t/c 12:46, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
  15. Jason Kidd - , . Stuck for hours. Enigma 05:48, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
    That first one () doesn't seem like simple vandalism to me. Second one is, though. Done. ++Lar: t/c 02:36, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
  16. Bill Wennington - live for over a day
    done. ++Lar: t/c 02:36, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
  17. Stacey King - live for over three hours, and again for over four hours Zagalejo^^^ 06:58, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
    done. ++Lar: t/c 11:25, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
  18. Chris Paul - defamation stuck for hours, vandalism stuck for hours, vandalism for 51 minutes, and much more.
    done. TPW's feel free to jump in here and do some. ++Lar: t/c 11:25, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
  19. Ben Wallace - vandalism stuck for hours, more vandalism, more vandalism, this horrific vandalism was not removed for hours. And still people oppose flagged revisions and semiprotection. Enigma 12:24, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
    Amazing, isn't it? WHAT are they thinking? Done. ++Lar: t/c 22:37, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
  20. Jon Lester - vandalism stuck for almost 9 hours, defamation lasted over four days!!!. Enigma 13:09, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. ++Lar: t/c 22:37, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
  21. Ray Allen - . Enigma 00:57, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. لennavecia 02:22, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  22. Jason Mraz - . Recently came off semi-protection.
    Done. لennavecia 02:24, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  23. Bobby Cox - . The second one is particularly galling. Not an insignificant article and it took that long for vandalism to be removed? Enigma 01:44, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. لennavecia 02:25, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  24. Liam Gallagher - Enigma 02:12, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. لennavecia 02:27, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  25. Beck - Enigma 02:16, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. لennavecia 02:30, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  26. Greg Paulus - self-explanatory. Also, should this page start getting archived at one point? Give me another two weeks and it'll be over 50 entries. Enigma 04:05, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. As for archiving, I recommend archiving by month. لennavecia 11:58, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
    Yes. See User_talk:Lar/Liberal_Semi#Archiving_strategy for further discussion. ++Lar: t/c 15:25, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  27. Allen Iverson - Hate to keep nominating NBA biographies, but I happen to have a lot of them on my watchlist and just about every high profile NBA player's biography is frequently vandalized. . All vandalism. Enigma 12:59, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. لennavecia 15:46, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  28. Kwame Brown - defamation stuck for 74 minutes! Enigma 13:45, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. This one was nasty so I jumped it in the order. ++Lar: t/c 15:38, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
    I did this one, too, because I didn't realize it'd been done. :p لennavecia 15:45, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
    My bad, I forgot to strike it. Can't follow my own procedure, apparently. :) ++Lar: t/c 16:18, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  29. Bobby Petrino - Enigma 13:45, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. لennavecia 15:45, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
  30. Ronny Turiaf - this was up for over ten hours. While it's not libelous or anything, the fact that it stayed so long suggests that not enough people are watching the article. (There's been some nastier vandalism in the past, like this.) Zagalejo^^^ 23:03, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
    done ++Lar: t/c 02:36, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
  31. Wálter Herrmann - this was live for over 16 hours. Zagalejo^^^ 23:21, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. لennavecia 14:46, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
  32. Drew Gooden - up for over 3 hours Zagalejo^^^ 21:52, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. لennavecia 14:46, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
  33. Kevin Garnett - height/weight vandalism, defamation took over a half hour to be removed, wasn't immediately removed, and there's plenty more. Enigma 02:35, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. لennavecia 14:46, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
  34. B.J. Penn - , just off semiprotection which lasted a month. Enigma 06:48, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. لennavecia 14:46, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
  35. Travis Outlaw - over an hour Zagalejo^^^ 08:09, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. لennavecia 14:46, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
  36. Cito Gaston - Enigma 06:48, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. ++Lar: t/c 16:27, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
  37. Dennis Rodman - up for an hour; has been subject of some pretty nasty vandalism in the past (eg, ) Zagalejo^^^ 04:52, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. لennavecia 04:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
  38. Tim Lincecum - apparent vandalism, certain vandalism, possible defamation. Enigma 10:18, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done.--VS 12:22, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
  39. Dave Chappelle - , , and more. Enigma 10:18, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done.--VS 12:22, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
  40. Oscar De La Hoya - , a taster of the record vandalism that goes on), [http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Oscar_De_La_Hoya&diff=284077653&oldid=284048484 took way too long to be reverted, etc. Also see protection log. Enigma 10:18, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done.--VS 12:22, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
  41. Carl Pavano - unexplained deletion took hours to be reverted, defamation took 8 minutes, nonsense took almost an hour, etc. Enigma 10:18, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done.--VS 12:22, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
  42. Ben Gordon - this was live for over three hours, along with some other nonconstructive changes. Zagalejo^^^ 05:40, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done - Kevin (talk) 05:52, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
  43. Josh Howard - article said "SAY CUZ NIGGA" for over two hours. Zagalejo^^^ 06:22, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done --VS 06:28, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
  44. Mark Madsen - This lasted for over 8 hours. It's not libel or anything, but it indicates that few people are watching the page. Zagalejo^^^ 21:34, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
    I'm rejecting this one. Not convincing vandalism. لennavecia 04:56, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
    What do you mean by not convincing? It is vandalism, and it did stay up for over 8 hours. Enigma 08:16, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
    It's not "malicious" but it is vandalism as it can't be mistaken for a good faith attempt at improving the article. Done. (no disrespect to Jennavecia intended but it fits the criteria I established) ++Lar: t/c 10:54, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
  45. Brian McCann (baseball) - infrequently vandalized, but classic example of unwatched BLP. , , . Enigma 07:22, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
    The first two are vandalism but don't (even together) pass the qualify, and the third strikes me as good faith so doesn't count. Do you have one more that's 5 min or longer, or 8 more total ? Not rejecting yet. ++Lar: t/c 11:02, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
    What am I missing? The first one was an hour and one minute, the second was eleven minutes. How does that not qualify? لennavecia 12:46, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
    Er... apparently I'm also suffering math issues. I read the first one as one minute, not one hour and one minute. yes, this one's valid. Sorry for confusion. ++Lar: t/c 14:34, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
    Lar needs a nap. :) Done. لennavecia 15:02, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
    Sez you. ++Lar: t/c 16:36, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
  46. Shawn_Crahan - A disaster of a high magnitude. I have no idea how long the page contained libel (at a guess, not less than a few months), but *facepalm*. What I removed included allegations that Crahan threatened several people with physical violence. All unsourced, probably untrue. Enigma 16:15, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
    Plenty of simple vandalism also. Kevin (talk) 21:29, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
    I don't even know if there is a last good version. All the vandalism has become ingrained in the article. I'll have to come back to it later. Enigma 23:34, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
    Note: Kevin did this one... ++Lar: t/c 01:42, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
  47. Dwight Howard - , . Borderline. Enigma 06:48, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
    reject. Not simple vandalism, could be good faith editing, just unsourced. ++Lar: t/c 16:25, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
    PS to unreject, do you have more diffs? ++Lar: t/c 11:02, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
    Yes. 7 minutes, 24 minutes, several hours from first vandalism to revert, 42 minutes. Enigma 15:22, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. ++Lar: t/c 00:26, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
  48. Roscoe Parrish - Borderline case, but his page has started getting vandalized more and more. At least the last four were reverted quickly. was not, not either (pretty bad). More recently, this took time to be reverted, although I suppose one could argue it was good faith. Whatever the intent, it was not helpful, as he is still a member of the Bills. PS - Not sure if I should move the Dwight Howard request back to pending or not. Don't want to step on any toes. Enigma 15:52, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
    Moved it (Dwight). ++Lar: t/c 16:36, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
    Done. ++Lar: t/c 01:42, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Rejected

These articles were adjudged as "too complex" or whatever. Move them back to pending if you supply the qualifying diffs.

  1. James Tedisco - I'm at a loss here. The material added over the past year+ was not particularly high quality, but I'm not sure if it can be removed outright. Enigma 02:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
    Too complicated for me right now, I prefer more obvious ones... are there specific diffs you think demonstrate the issue? ++Lar: t/c 23:17, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
  2. Waseh Siddiqui - a hoax that needs deletion I found doing some new pages patrol. I tagged it, but sometimes the db-watchers are slow if it's not a db-bio. And it's been here for three weeks (created on March 16 )--Rocksanddirt (talk) 16:40, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
    deleted now. --Rocksanddirt (talk) 17:23, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
    I would have rejected it, as it's not a case of "simple vandalism" I don't think. ++Lar: t/c 22:38, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
  3. Mercy Otis Warren - half hour, two hours (this article is worked on by my wife a lot, I leave it to someone else to protect) ++Lar: t/c 10:50, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
    Little confused with this one - is it a BLP (living)?--VS 11:13, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
    er, nope! My bad. Rejected because clearly the nominator obviously wasn't paying attention to the criteria **I** set up so carefully... Shame on him for wasting our time. ++Lar: t/c 12:40, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
    At least now I feel better about nominating Sam Houston. :P He at least died well after Warren did! Enigma 15:22, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Pending

These articles haven yet to be acted upon (unless the article link has been struck through in which case they just haven't beem moved to the "done" section)