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Hi Pecher! Nice to meet you here!

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Nice Job on Ukraine!

I appreciate how you organized it. If you wish, we could work together to expand this list and clean it up a bit. My Username is User:HotelRoom. Give me a chime whenever you want me to write an article, add more names etc. 72.144.71.229 08:10, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

List of Ukrainians

Hi, Pecher. I see somebody continuously removes non ethnic Ukrainians from the list. I would suggest adding a definition on the top of the page. Something like "This list includes people of different ethnic descent who were born and/or spent essential part of their lives on the theritory of the present day Ukraine as well as the people of Ukrainian diaspora". Or something similar. Otherwise people will continue deleting because of misinterpretation of the word "Ukrainain". If the proble will persist even after the definition is added, please let me know.--AndriyK 10:19, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Grigorenko/Hryhorenko

Hi Pecher, I reverted your move of Grigorenko to Hryhorenko as per follows. Yes, he IS an ethnic Ukrainian and be him a modern politician of Ukraine or smth like this, he would have certainly be called Hryhorenko in English, like we are using Ukrainian spellings for Volodymyr Lytvyn, Petro Poroshenko, Oleksandr Moroz, etc.

Hryhorenko, however, entered the world news long time ago and, justly or not, he is called Grigorenko by the world media. You can conduct a google test and see the difference in usage. Our job, at encyclopedia, is not to "promote" the "correct" usage but to reflect the prevailing usage and the prevailing usage is determined by the English language media. May I suggest that before moving articles, you propose the move first and wait a little bit for responses in the future? Thanks! --Irpen 17:37, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks again for your email. I just want to add to my response that there exists a Ukraine portal at Misplaced Pages, created my several Ukrainian editors (myself included) who take interest in the topic. Despite being called "anti-Ukrainian" by fringe nationalists like AndriyK and Andrew Alexander, I do love my country and wrote much for many topics before having to deal with Andriy's mess started to take up so much of my time but this would be over soon, I think. Please see my user page if you would like to read and correct my articles. There was a lively, although small, community of Ukrainian editors here of which myself and user:Mzajac where the most active ones. Also, largely thanks to user:Sashazlv we even have one Featured Article in en-wiki on a Ukrainian topic (the Hero of Ukraine). We often had differences over issues with our eastern and western neighbors,who write mostly from their national perspective while I, for instance, write from a moderate Ukrainian one. However, we always resolved the differences in cordial discussions and were able to come up with the reasonable solution.

In any case, I would like to welcome you again and feel fee to ask or email if you have any questions. --Irpen 09:38, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Portal

Hi, I noticed you tried to improve portal's layout. You are welcome to do so. However, please note that the layout depends on the type of the browser and even the skin type selected in the user preferences. Also, for whatever reason changes made in Portal's space are often not visible immediately. This is probably some server cash issue which does not affect the articles' space. Anyway, good luck and don't hesitate to get your hands on this. I just wanted to let you know that it is more difficult than it seems. Also, you may check portal's talk at Portal_talk:Ukraine for the history of how people worked on it. Good luck, --Irpen 21:45, 28 November 2005 (UTC)