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Marx and Anti-Semitism
Anything on Marx and Anti-Semitism should also make reference to the arguments made in Hal Draper: Marx and the Economic-Jew Stereotype (1977)
- As I read it, the article argues against labeling Marx an anti-Semite. I think the key question is, has any serious historian been able to sustain the charge of anti-Semitism? If not, I don't know that it is even worth discussing in the article. If you disagree, AH, and want to include a precis of Draper and McLellan's points, I certainly won't object, Slrubenstein
- I had added something earlier, but it was removed. I was going to add this at a later date when I had some time but I have been distracted. To see more on charges of Marx's anti-semitsm read Marx's "The Jewish Quesiton". http://csf.colorado.edu/psn/marx/Archive/1844-JQ/ TDC 01:52, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- I took it out, and explained why -- what you added were quotes out of context, with a misleading interpretation -- not at all what I say above, which is an invitation to include a resme of scholarly review on the matter. Your link simply goes to Marx's essays on the Jewish question -- which I have studied. It is a deconstruction of the Western discourse on "emancipation" and it is not anti-Semitic. Slrubenstein
Well, some might argue otherwise. I would also counter that the quotes were not out of contex considering the tone of the article, plus he had also written about the Jewery in several other pieces. Marx also had some shitty things to say about the Slavs. TDC 02:10, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Marx was a Jew... john 02:10, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Oh my God, I had absolutely no idea that Marx was a jew, with that Irish soundin name en all!! Well then, I suppose there is no way he could be anti-semetic then could he. TDC 02:41, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Well, the burden of proof should be higher to "prove" that a Jew is an anti-semite, shouldn't it? And "Marx" is certainly not an especially jewish name - it is a German name. Wilhelm Marx was a Catholic politician in Weimar Germany, for instance. john 02:43, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Hmmm......
What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.
But after all, he is Jewish and after all, there is no way that a Jew could be anti-semetic ......... Norman Finkelstein , Noam Chomsky, Uni AveryTDC 02:50, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Hmmmm....... am I on to a trend here? Are all anti-semeitc Jews also Marxists?
Hmmmm....... interesting ............ very interesting TDC 02:52, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Again, you're taking stuff out of context. Marx was certainly opposed to the Jewish religion because he was opposed to all religion. But beyond this, I think this is a ridiculous argument. As to Finkelstein and Chomsky, I think it's arguable that they are anti-semites, but, again, one should have pretty solid backing to make such a claim. I'm fairly certain we havan't reached that level with Marx. (BTW, my Irish-sounding name does hide the fact that I'm Jewish), john 02:53, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Like when Marx called Ferdinand Lassalle a "Juden Itzig , in a personal letter he wrote to Engles. No anti-semitism here. Marxist have been trying to explain that little diddy for years. After all, I I called someon a Jew Nigger, leftists would be falling over each other to creatively interprite my remarks to let me off the hook. TDC 03:01, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)