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"Alternate Telling of the Ending"

I removed an edit you made to Neon Genesis Evangelion. Reason being: unsourced statements that could not be verified; weasel words (that means saying "some people say..." "most fans think..." etc); and WP:MOS - titles should be in sentence case (only the first word capitalized); and discussion was added to the article instead of the talk page (the "discussion" link at the top of the page). (Besides that, I don't think it was correct. The two endings had very little in common, and I don't really think they can be or are meant to be fit together. But that's beside the point.)

Sorry about this -- I feel kind of mean about it -- but please familiarize yourself with those policies. -HKMARKS 01:16, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Alright, since you're insisting, I left most of your edit in but made a few edits -- that is what you requested after all. I've seen no evidence of a fan consensus on the endings -- if the two of us can't even agree on it, what would that mean, anyway? Please don't take any of this personally, we're all just trying to make the best article possible :) By the way, if you want to discuss the edits, the place to do it is Talk:Neon Genesis Evangelion -HKMARKS 05:47, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm an ass, I know. I don't take any offence, and hope I haven't offended you that much. ^_^

None taken, I can be pretty defensive of my edits too :) Hey, welcome to wikipedia, eh? -HKMARKS 05:56, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I've been around a while, mostly 'trolling' in some political page, as well as keeping trolls OUT of the Bob and George page. I would probably love to learn the ropes, but between Digipen, anime, and what little life I have, I don't have the energy to learn the code.

Alexander sliwinski

Please do not make personal attacks as you did at Alexander sliwinski. Misplaced Pages has a strict policy against personal attacks. Attack pages and images are not tolerated by Misplaced Pages and are speedily deleted. Users who continue to create or repost such pages and images in violation of our Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons policy will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Thank you. --Dynaflow babble 07:09, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Terrorism

Just so you know, I didn't mean anything personal with my Pearl Harbor commentary. I'm all for setting an objective definition of terrorism and then using it in Misplaced Pages articles where it's appropriate (the 9/11 article, for example), and I'm getting pretty tired of people arguing that it's a taboo word here. I just think there needs to be a strict definition, so people can't accuse us of suiting the definition to the event. Dchall1 02:30, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

It's fine. I'm also sick of the 'taboo' nature of the word myself. --Tarage 05:50, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

"No"...

Dear Tarage, I hear you are frustrated with the ongoing discussion, and want it to be finished? It can only be finished when we agree... Simply repeating "no", in violation of the guidelines, is not acceptable to me. Misplaced Pages is not allowed to have non-neutral articles, and there is good reason for that, and no "rough" consensus on the talk page of an article can overrule that. I'm sorry, but I will not let this rest until the guidelines are met, all of them.  — Xiutwel ♫☺♥♪ (speech has the power to bind the absolute) 06:56, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Troll

I am for the sake of assuming good faith, going to direct your attention to WP:NPA, if you make one more personal attack against me or are in any way uncivil, I will pursue an escalation of dispute resolution procedures. This your only warning. User:Pedant (talk) 06:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

WP:NPA

Your continued characterisation of me as a troll is clearly and blatantly a personal attack, which is against policy and I insist that you discontinue this disruptive tack. It does not further the goals of this project. I insist that you stop. I am asking you nicely to stop. Please, stop. User:Pedant (talk) 07:01, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I would just walk away from the whole subject for a while, like we discussed. It's not worth getting hot under the collar over. Go write some articles or something :P --Haemo (talk) 19:12, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edit summary at 9/11

Well, we probably don't have to say "blithering troll"... remember that calling someone a troll (truth of it aside) is only fanning the fire or otherwise being uncivil to an unaware editor. I'd recommend taking a step back for a while... other editors can sort everything out. There's always going to be a lot of trolling on an article like 9/11 and the best way to deal with it is to be friendly or unresponsive, but if you're getting upset it might be good to take a break. I always like the advice “smile them to death.” :) Take care. Okiefromokla 01:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Tarage

I've submitted a proposal for the structure of the 9/11 article that I would appreciate your input on.
Sincerely,
GuamIsGood (talk) 16:49, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I understand your doubt, you have my sympathy. Tachyonbursts (talk) 03:28, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of "Gar (meme)"

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Thanks. Katanada (talk) 04:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Tarage. You have new messages at Katanada's talk page.
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Talk:Bilderberg Group

This might interest you. It features one of your favoite apparent SPAs who is clearly not a new editor. Dougweller (talk) 12:33, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Categories of September 11 attacks

Hi Tarage, regarding your recent edit at September 11 attacks, I have removed the category again. The article is already categorized in Category:Islamic terrorism. This category would be a subgroup of Category:Islam-related violence in the United States. We do include articles in the most specific subcategory available, not in the more general categories, like Category:Disasters in the United States (of which Category:Building fires in the United States is a sub-category). The other issue is whether the name of the (new) category Category:Islam-related violence in the United States is appropriate.  Cs32en  20:20, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. I thought you were removing it because you were saying the attacks weren't related to Islam. --Tarage (talk) 04:01, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Personal Attacks

Could you please read WP:NPA again and comment on the contribution and not the contributor or you will be reported and blocked. BigDunc 08:21, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Tarage will not be blocked. He has done nothing wrong. AdjustShift (talk) 17:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Not by you your his buddy, but if this editor continues to breach WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA he will be reported and blocked. BigDunc 17:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Tarage hasn't breached WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA, so he will not be blocked. AdjustShift (talk) 07:24, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

More personal attacks

Could I add to that? This editor has taken to removing legitimate comment from an article talk page as well as making personal attacks and abusive edit comments. Despite being politely warned to adhere to WP:CIVIL. Sarah777 (talk) 15:20, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

And there is some irony in this editor removing my contribution given this wonderful Wiki-record:
  • 07:14, 22 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (Undid revision 297829921 by Sarah777 (talk) Don't let the door hit you on the way out.)
  • 20:05, 21 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→Al Qaeda 'Terrorist' label is not justified.)
  • 06:04, 21 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→Al Qaeda 'Terrorist' label is not justified.: Even I'm lost as to who is replying to who anymore...)
  • 06:03, 21 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→Al Qaeda 'Terrorist' label is not justified.: Learn to indent properly...)
  • 01:52, 21 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→Al Qaeda 'Terrorist' label is not justified.)
  • 01:49, 21 June 2009 (hist) (diff) User talk:Tarage ‎ (Removing Rubbish)
  • 22:30, 20 June 2009 (hist) (diff) User talk:De Unionist ‎ (→Warning)
  • 22:29, 20 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents ‎ (→User:De Unionist: new section)
  • 22:25, 20 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→Al Qaeda 'Terrorist' label is not justified.: RM Personal Attack)
  • 22:23, 20 June 2009 (hist) (diff) User talk:De Unionist ‎ (→Warning)*22:16, 20 June 2009 (hist) (diff) User talk:De Unionist ‎ (→Warning)
  • 22:14, 20 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→Al Qaeda 'Terrorist' label is not justified.: Take your non-article related talk to a talk page. This is NOT a forum.)
  • 21:57, 20 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→Al Qaeda 'Terrorist' label is not justified.)
  • 01:01, 20 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→"Terrorists" vs "Operatives", "Members"?)
  • 15:34, 18 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→"Terrorists" vs "Operatives", "Members"?: Hilarious Dunc...)
  • 15:28, 18 June 2009 (hist) (diff) User talk:BigDunc ‎ (→Pushing POV: new section)
  • 07:45, 18 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→"Terrorists" vs "Operatives", "Members"?: Save face, drop it.)
  • 03:00, 16 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→"Terrorists" vs "Operatives", "Members"?)
  • 03:13, 15 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→"Terrorists" vs "Operatives", "Members"?: God, you people are just pathetic sometimes...
  • 10:16, 14 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→War on terrorism)
  • 10:15, 14 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→Suicide vs. Homicide attack)
  • 10:11, 14 June 2009 (hist) (diff) September 11 attacks ‎ (Call a duck a duck. Call a terrorist a terrorist. Don't shy away from the truth. Stop pushing this POV filth.)
  • 10:09, 14 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→"Terrorists" vs "Operatives", "Members"?)
  • 06:05, 12 June 2009 (hist) (diff) September 11 attacks ‎ (Undid revision 295820728 by Vintagekits (talk) You inserted POV.)
  • 08:38, 11 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→Suicide vs. Homicide attack)
  • 22:07, 10 June 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→War on terrorism)
  • 05:01, 7 June 2009 (hist) (diff) User talk:Tarage ‎ (→Categories of September 11 attacks)
  • 20:25, 6 June 2009 (hist) (diff) September 11 attacks ‎ (Undid revision 294738187 by Cs32en (talk) What's the difference?)
  • 05:29, 29 May 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→Doubt)
  • 03:41, 29 May 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth ‎ (→Suggest merging)
  • 03:40, 29 May 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→Doubt)
  • 03:30, 29 May 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→Doubt)
  • 03:29, 29 May 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→Doubt)
  • 03:29, 29 May 2009 (hist) (diff) Talk:September 11 attacks ‎ (→Doubt)
and there are 500 more in this vein - and that's just the first page of his contributions. Sarah777 (talk) 15:33, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Tarage did the right thing by reverting nonsense. He is doing his best to protect the 9/11 article from POV pushers. AdjustShift (talk) 17:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Au contraire. He is not only maintaining a manifest breach of WP:NPOV (that happens on Wiki), he is seeking to censor and suppress any debate on the matter. He is rude (contra WP:CIVIL) and borderline edit-warring. He appears to be afforded license for this aggressive, arrogant behaviour by the support of like-minded Administrators. Certainly, the comments by me that he reverted were not "nonsense". They were statements of facts that he found disagreeable. Not least the fact that this article and it's "Guardians" completely ignore WP:NPOV. Sarah777 (talk) 17:37, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Don't care anymore. I will revert any rants you place on the talk page. You won't listen to consensus, you won't listen to reason, and you won't listen to policy. I will not allow you to rant for the sake of ranting, or rant about off topic subjects. Take up up on the ANI if you want. I know I'm in the right. --Tarage (talk) 00:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
"reasoning" so pathetic that you need to censor all opposing views? Sarah777 (talk) 03:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Nah, just the moronic POV pushing ones. --Tarage (talk) 03:19, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Tarage is not trying to censor anything; he is trying to protect the 9/11 article from POV pushers. AdjustShift (talk) 07:24, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Actually, Unsigned Person, he is "protecting" the Talk Page from opinions he dislikes. Sarah777 (talk) 21:52, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Once again, I don't care what you think anymore. Do what you have to do, but I will not allow you to derail the article, talk page, or even MY talk page anymore. You rant, and I'll delete it. You push POV, and I'll delete it. You soapbox, and I'll delete it. You push the same garbage you have been pushing, and I'll delete it. This is the last I will say on the subject. You will get nothing more out of me. --Tarage (talk) 22:33, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

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