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Ironman & related articles - discussion

As part of this WikiProject's goal of improving Misplaced Pages's coverage of triathlon articles, I am hereby opening a discussion on the arrangement of articles relating to Ironman Triathlon.

The article Ironman Triathlon brings together many valid areas of encyclopaedic content, however perhaps they should be in separate articles. I propose:

• Ironman Triathlon - what is an Ironman triathlon, history, race distance
• World Triathlon Corporation - company information, branding, event licensing
• Ironman World Championship - summary of champions, course records, multiple winners
• 2008 Ironman World Championship (+etc. for other years) - more details about that particular year's event, incl. lists of qualifying events for that year, race highlights, medalists incl. splits
• Ironman 70.3 Triathlon, Ironman World Championship 70.3, 2008 Ironman World Championship 70.3 etc. - as above

The general idea is to follow how articles of championships in other sports are arranged – e.g. FINA World Aquatics Championships and 2007 World Aquatics Championships, or Triathlon at the Summer Olympics and Triathlon at the 2008 Summer Olympics.

I've started on an initial draft of 2008 Ironman World Championship.

Yboy83 (talk) 21:13, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Seems reasonable to me, I may need to think a bit more about the detail. Suggest you post a link to this discussion on the relevant article talk pages (I'd do it myself, but I need to get to bed now, and will be away for most of tomorrow). Note there is already an Ironman 70.3 article.

--NSH001 (talk) 22:41, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Proposals to nominate articles for deletion

Having made quick assessments of all the Triathlon articles recently tagged with the WikiProject Triathlon banner, I propose the following list of article is proposed for deletion, either by WP:PROD or WP:AfD. Please add your comments, and additions to the list below. Feel free to start the deletion process if you agree, otherwise I will start in the next week or so. Yboy83 (talk) 10:34, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

• Brad Kearns - many tags (notability, lack of references, orphaned, advertising, neutrality) present for 6+ months, yet no editing performed
  • A very badly written article, already failed-prod, but undoubtedly notable, worth keeping. Obviously needs re-writing, but that's what we're here for. NSH001 (talk) 12:45, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Y OK Yboy83 (talk) 14:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
• Courtney Crutcher - non-notable: WP:ATHLETE
  • not a professional triathlete (according to the article), so desn't belong in this project, surely? NSH001 (talk) 13:04, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
    • I've PRODed this Yboy83 (talk) 14:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
      • I see your PROD ddidn't last very long (previously PRODed almost the instant it was created). Doesn't appear to me to satisfy the criteria for amateurs in WP:ATHLETE. NSH001 (talk) 16:09, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
        • Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Courtney Crutcher - AfD started. Yboy83 (talk) 20:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
          •  Done Yboy83 (talk) 11:42, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
• Dan Empfield - non-notable: WP:ATHLETE
  • what a mess - earlier versions have a lot more info, but all unsourced; if true there is more than enough for notability (slowtwitch, etc). A small expansion (from the present tiny version) with sourced info should be enough to keep. NSH001 (talk) 13:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Y OK Yboy83 (talk) 14:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
• Formula One Triathlon - non-notable: insignificant coverage WP:GNG, orphaned
  • PRODed on 2009-04-25 by User:WLU. Yboy83 (talk) 00:31, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
    •  Done Yboy83 (talk) 10:51, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
• IM Talk - tagged with non-notable: WP:WEB, orphaned
  • very badly written, will need a lot of work to clean up. But there are plenty of refs in independent tri mags, etc. to satisfy WP:WEB. Also notable as they have interviewed all the top Ironman triathletes, and wikilinks will undoubtedly appear as we expand the latter's articles. Obvious keep. NSH001 (talk) 23:13, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Y OK Yboy83 (talk) 14:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
• Jason Gooding - non-notable: WP:ATHLETE
  • easily satisfies WP:ATHLETE (Commonwealth Games, World Cup competitor, etc). Beware systemic bias WP:BIAS. Keep. Needs refs and improvement, though. NSH001 (talk) 22:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Y OK Yboy83 (talk) 14:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
• Jay Challenge - non-notable: insignificant coverage WP:GNG, orphaned
  • borderline, I won't object if you PROD it NSH001 (talk) 22:17, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Have removed triathlon category and project tag - event is not a triathlon. Yboy83 (talk) 10:03, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
• Joe Friel - non-notable: WP:ATHLETE
  • not an athlete, he's a triathlon coach. I've corrected his category. Seems to be notable both as coach and author. Keep.
    • Y OK Yboy83 (talk) 14:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
• Jon Blais - non-notable: WP:ATHLETE
  • definitely keep, noted for the "Blazeman roll", which Chrissie Wellington does at the finish of all her IM races (one of the items on my to-do list for her article) NSH001 (talk) 12:29, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Y OK Yboy83 (talk) 14:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
• Marc Herremans - non-notable: WP:ATHLETE
  • top 10 finisher in Hawaii easily satisfies WP:ATHLETE, keep. Article has lots of problems, written mostly by someone whose mother tongue is not English. A lot of work to clean up. NSH001 (talk) 22:47, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Y OK Yboy83 (talk) 14:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
• Ruben Figueres Alario - non-notable: WP:ATHLETE
  • previously PRODed, so you'll need to take it to AfD, where I suspect it'll be kept (notable as swimmer). Overall winner of a sprint distance triathlon, so marginal notability for the project. NSH001 (talk) 15:11, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Ruben Figueres Alario - AfD started. Will see how this goes before considering sending others via this route. Yboy83 (talk) 09:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
      •  Done Yboy83 (talk) 11:42, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
• Sally Edwards - non-notable: WP:ATHLETE, orphaned
  • easily notable, both as author and athlete, assuming article is correct (needs refs, though). Keep. --NSH001 (talk) 14:27, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
    • Y OK Yboy83 (talk) 14:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
• Scott Eder - non-notable: WP:ATHLETE, orphaned
  • survived an earlier AfD. Is not a professional athlete, nor is he a triathlon coach. Suggest we just remove him from the project and the "American triathletes" category. NSH001 (talk) 15:28, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
    •  Done Yboy83 (talk) 14:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
• XTERRA Triathlon Global Tour 2007 - Already WP:PROD - orphaned
  •  Done Yboy83 (talk) 09:25, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

• Aleksandar Sørensen-Marković - orphaned, non-notable: WP:ATHLETE
  • I've prod-ed this one (tho' he technically satisfies WP:ATHLETE as far as I can see) NSH001 (talk) 12:29, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
    •  Done Yboy83 (talk) 09:25, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
      • Article deleted, deletion contested and article restored. NSH001 (talk) 05:19, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
• Danskin Triathlon - non-notable: insignificant coverage WP:GNG, deadend
• Equilateral triathlon - non-notable: insignificant coverage WP:GNG, orphaned
• Geiranger - From Fjord to Summit - non-notable: insignificant coverage WP:GNG, orphaned
• Jim MacLaren - non-notable: WP:ATHLETE
• Lokelani McMichael - non-notable: WP:ATHLETE
• Nenad Sudarov - non-notable: WP:ATHLETE
  • I've PRODed this one NSH001 (talk) 14:58, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
    • PROD failed. Additional information added since tag removal still doesn't prove sufficient notability for WP inclusion. Yboy83 (talk) 09:25, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

• Scott Simpson (triathlete) - Already WP:PROD - orphaned, non-notable: WP:ATHLETE
  • PROD failed. Editor has added an additional external link. I have added <orphan> tag as only link there is a disam. page. Yboy83 (talk) 09:25, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
• Soma triathlon - oprhaned, AFAIK not an official half Ironman as suggested, hence possibly insufficient notability
• Svetlana Brkic - non-notable: WP:ATHLETE, orphaned
• Team Hoyt - non-notable: WP:ATHLETE, possible copyright violation
• Triathlon one 0 one - non-notable: insignificant coverage WP:GNG

Thanks NSH for your input - maybe if I hadn't super-quick scan-read these articles then the list wouldn't have been so long! Yboy83 (talk) 14:51, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

That's OK, it doesn't hurt to have a convenient list of dubious articles. I'm still considering the remaining articles, which will probably take a few more days (too many to look at all at once). NSH001 (talk) 16:09, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

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