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Mee tooo

on the finicky over tagging above. (note in proof, my current talk page heading!) Sigh!

  • btw -- Happy New Year!
  • Can you review: this image for restoration whereas it was part of a finale episode article Forever Charmed, some over-enthusiast turned into a redirect out of process. I just restored it since first and final episodes are self-notable.
  • If you deem the image problematic, can you excise it from said page. Thanks, as always. // FrankB 17:20, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Reply posted on User talk:Fabartus. --Sherool (talk) 20:04, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
  • Thanks- that will do... there was a third evidently as well- found that commented out farther down. Hmmmm- just noticed that namespace is no "file:"... guess I'm missing changes right and left. // FrankB 21:25, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Taking a vacation??? <g>
Can you peek here, and tell me whether the referenced image is retrievable. If so, what do I have to do to justify using it. Note the para I added tonight... This is a important transitional episode, so imho, quite noteworthy. The pic shows the image the audience had to deal with all summer agonizing over their fates. // FrankB 01:49, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
  • This too... the next sequel with similar claims to notability. file:Reunited.jpg and File:Paige4.jpg for/in Charmed Again (Part 1)
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    Sorry, but these rules mechanics raped the coverage on this series... I'd really rather be fixing up something else! // FrankB 02:08, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
    Reply posted on User talk:Fabartus. --Sherool (talk) 21:34, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
    Can we restore File:TedKing.jpg, appropriate for T.W. King, and (playing) Andy_Trudeau articles. Little disturbing someone would delete a low resolution screen shot depicting a lead actor! Thanks // FrankB 17:16, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
    Reply posted on User talk:Fabartus. --Sherool (talk) 08:59, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
    Kudos, Thanks on your clear answer and diligent effort. // FrankB 13:09, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

    Hmmmm missing a post here

    from yesterday
    guess I didn't save it yet! <g>
    must still be in the bit-bucket on the other computer... the keyboard has been giving me fits... the QWERTY row mostly misfires, and when I added my external keyboard wouldn't you know it's misfiring on 'S' and 'H'... trust me it's no way to have edit productivity! Natch that all went south while I had seven or eight tabs with multiple backup edits to save and so forth... I'm actually working on both to clear up and close that browser run and it's tabs.
    1. Re: All Hell Breaks Loose (edit talk links history)
      1. re: File:AllHellBreaksLoose.jpg
        per: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=All_Hell_Breaks_Loose&diff=272064426&oldid=265312321
        Unexpected use of template {{2}} - see Template:2 for details.
    2. and re: The second image had the same kind of paper thin "show the episode" rationale, but since the first image does that and the image itself doesn't seem to contribute any significant info (just a framed photo of the 3 main characters) I descided not to restore that one. I didn't check too in depth though, so if you think I missed something about the significance of that image let me know. --Sherool (talk) 20:03, 9 January 2009 (UTC) fm my talk which is
      1. about ' Image:AllHellBreaksLoose Prue&Piperdead.jpg' ... which I can well justify now.
      2. Inserted query... advice wanted from you on this pic in the paragraph in this transition explanation section... which should be the scene being discussed with Piper and Prue hors de Combat...
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        See any problems with fair use there, inasmuch as it's in the joint between seasons so to speak? And on point (discussion about the writing strategy by the Production company) // FrankB 00:14, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
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        1. Re: File:CharmedGlenPaige.jpg for Template:Cseason... surprised they didn't have that stupid prince (i.e. the "Knight") in a screen shot pic. (Somebody had their head on straight afterall! <G> NOT your prototypical bright and strong character!!!)
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          1. and another two: File:Charmed and dangerous.jpg, and File:SavingPrivateLeo.jpg... and you be lucky I got bogged down with templates! <G>
          If you'd be so kind on those three... // FrankB 19:48, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
          Ok restored most of them, File:AllHellBreaksLoose.jpg currently need a rationale though, and the rest all refeer to non-exsisting articles and are used on the episode list instead, but I guess that's what you are working to change.
          Don't rely see a need for File:AllHellBreaksLoose Prue&Piperdead.jpg in the section you referenced on the list article, an image of her on the floor is not nessesary to convery the fact that the character was killed off because the actress left. --Sherool (talk) 16:23, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

          Missing post

          Oh! My (pending but missing) suggestion (aside from a particular image or two) was that we might set up a section of the talk page (This here talk would do: List of Charmed episodes (edit talk links history), since it is the main episode pages talk. Think I'll redirect the season# talk pages all there.) where you and I can monitor via the watchlist.

          • Assuming you buy into this,... (1) I add an undelete request link, (2) you make it blue, (3) I go soon after and make good the non free use rationale template. (Which I edited to fixup 'case' anomalies last night, broken keyboards and all! see this Surprised no one's fixed that cut and paste job yet!)
          • That way we won't junk up this page here, an we can both have a place to check status? Sound okay? Now that I've "organized" the overall task in taking on fixing up this series, I'll likely want to resurrect 2-3 screenshots a day-- assuming you have no problems with (currently only a few) the images outside the infoboxes on say Charmed (season 4) and Charmed (season 5).
          • The infoboxes from the pages made into redirects will go away as a section is matured using the other tools.
            • Oh, btw... just answer here, I'll check back or monitor on watchlist. I trimmed out nearly 7,000 pages on that last week and took it all offline. Lots easier to manage the list with a mere few dozen pages, you betchya! // FrankB 19:48, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
              • Yeah I think that can work, as long as we are talking mostly "unused non-free image" deletions. If an image was deleted for having a disputed rationale and simmilar it would probably be better to just list it on WP:DRV or contact the admin who actualy deleted it. --Sherool (talk) 16:48, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
          • Been saving your email and this answer for time window to resume charmed edits... Got hung up over on the commons trying to make sense out of diffs between graphs, diagrams, illustrations, etchings, engravings and so forth... great fun, since there seem to be as many schemes for sub-category trees... Template:IbullI'd be lying if I said was great fun <g> Suspect one can spend a lifetime sorting images over there... and just that to empty out the main categories which aren't supposed to hold pics at all! What's that greek dude sentenced to forever be rolling the big rock up the hill... Sisyphus or somesuch??? That's us!<g

          >Template:IbullOK, let me set up Talk:List of Charmed episodes/image status page and we can both watchlist and patrol it. Let's assume using {{done}} or some such graphic to indicate completed states... I think grouped by seasons, linked to images... That should make it easy to check use, recheck for non-free use rationale's etc.Template:IbullI'll put a post on AN asking for a few others to do the same, since we're talking about orphans from the bull-in-china-shop stampede to make the original pages all redirects.

          Sometimes I wonder why I just don't forget this site, and its' Sisyphusian taskings. // FrankB 15:02, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

          Arghhhh!

          Can you lend a hand, or weigh in on this?

          a teeny tiny little point

          You rightfully deleted the article Chris Nguyen as an attack page last month, but unfortunately the log now contains a clear record of some of the disparaging content. Not having the tools myself, I'm unsure if there is any way to remove this... Beeblebrox (talk) 22:24, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

          Sherool - sorry for butting in on this, but I requested oversight for the 20:54, 8 December 2005 deletion - they can remove that specific log entry! BTW - I think that this tool is going to be coming soon to the rest of us lowly peon sysops, so we don't have to go to them constantly to "fix" these blatantly obvious situations :) Skier Dude (talk) 04:50, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

          Thanks

          Thanks for your message on my talk. You may wish to transfer it to User talk:AVM, as he may not necessarily look back at my page. Stifle (talk) 15:50, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

          Ok done, heh for some reason I though I was on WT:CSD rater than your talkpage at the time, I had both open in different tabs I guess. Getting tired and confused I guess :P --Sherool (talk) 16:49, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

          Re:Bird paintings

          Thanks for informing me. I've made some changes just after receiving your message. --Footage (talk) 10:20, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

          :)

          Thanks for letting me know, i didn't realise, my copyright knowledge is kind of ... not there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KillerSteve (talkcontribs) 20:31, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

          ?

          Saw your comment at Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content/RFC_on_use_of_sports_team_logos#Final_version_3 but you didn't weigh in with a !vote. Your support/opposition/further comments would be appreciated. — BQZip01 —  04:32, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

          • "I don't agree with allowing non-free images in cases when are not . Basicaly I maintain my position from further up the page that the stated need to visualy identify the team(s) in question just isn't significant enough to justify repeating a non-free logo across related ancillary articles (no issue with it beeing used in the main team article)."
          Can you cite a single instance in which a non-free image would be used in such a manner? Please use actual articles or concrete examples of possible articles, not hypotheticals. The reason is, such articles simply don't/won't exist. Objecting to this proposal based on non-existent problems is problematic/misleading.
          • "If you are willing to accept using the team's official non-free logo only as a last resort when no other (free) images can be found, then you are also indirectly saying that the logo doesn't actualy add significantly to the understanding of the article (seeing as you are willing to accept other types of images in it's place)."
          That simply isn't true. We are using free images for purposes of identification. When free images are not available, we are using the only option available for identification and only as a last resort.
          • "Then the only remaining reason for using a non-free logo in these cases would be the old 'an article is not complete without some kind of image' argument, wich just isn't one of the criteria for using non-free material."
          Like I said before, this is not such a case. — BQZip01 —  02:54, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
          Reply posted on Misplaced Pages talk:Non-free content/RFC on use of sports team logos#Discussion on Final Version 3. --Sherool (talk) 07:54, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

          PING ... // FrankB 23:10, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

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          Off beat find.

          re: file:Edinburgh-coa.png / Edinburgh-coa.png (edit talk links history)

          The page is marked as deleted because is now on the commons... but is embedded in Scotland related ({{Edinburgh-stub}} iirc) stub template... but is apparently a different name on the commons or some such misalignment.

          If you haven't the time to track down the discontinuity (Name diff? I don't--I've a snow storm to clean up outside), can you at least undelete the original. // FrankB 22:29, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

          (Haven't gotten anywhere on the other pics, or list.)

          Thanks // FrankB 22:29, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

          Can't undelete the local version of the file itself because it was deleted before 16 June 2006 and has no recoverable file revisions. The version on Commons was deleted only recently though, so if you can track down a Commons admin they should be eable to undelete their version (if the nessesary license info can provided). The only info on the local versino was {{Vector-images.com}}, that template was suposedly deleted per Misplaced Pages:Templates for deletion/Log/2008 July 21#Template:Vector-images.com by the way (never seemed to happen for some reason)... --Sherool (talk) 15:57, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

          Re:Good catch

          Den var lett siden jeg kjente igjen logoen til MMAWeekly.com på toppen av bildet :) Er utrolig hvor mange copyvios folk laster opp til MMA-artikler... Var nettopp en som lastet opp flere bilder som alle tilsynelatende kunne vært OK (ikke klart "profesjonelle" etc), og jeg lot være å søke etter dem siden han lovte at han hadde tatt de selv. Var helt tilfeldig at jeg et par uker senere kom over en av de med en link til den avbildetes myspace, og når jeg sjekket resten viste seg at alle var kopiert fra obskure gallerier i hver av de sin myspace :\ --aktsu  19:44, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

          Ach! så ikke logoen før du nevner det nå. Todde det var noe reklame i bakgrunnen :P --Sherool (talk) 19:46, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

          From Dowsiewuwu

          I am still not sure how to upload images with copyright stuff like that. Please help me and give me directions how and please no longer leave disruptive messages on my talk page. I feel that you shoud be blocked from talk pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dowsiewuwu (talkcontribs) 01:44, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

          Reply posted at User talk:Dowsiewuwu. --Sherool (talk) 11:01, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

          Deleted templates

          The pages you recently deleted (ie this one and this one) have caused user pages using those templates as userboxes to show up at CSD. I'm clueless how to resolve this. Thus I've restored the pages. You can see the users that will be affected by deletion by clicking 'what links here' on each of those pages. Nja 20:36, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

          Nevermind, got it sorted. Cheers. Nja 21:06, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

          Formal Mediation for Sports Logos

          As a contributor to Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content/RFC_on_use_of_sports_team_logos/Archive_1, I have included you in a request for formal mediation regarding the subject at Misplaced Pages:Requests for mediation/Use of Sports Logos. With your input and agreement to work through mediation, I hope we can achieve a lasting solution. — BQZip01 —  06:36, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

          File permission problem with File:A flock of Armenian Semicoarsewool sheep.JPG

          Hello - I received your message regarding this file that I uploaded. It is taken from the FAO website which provides specific instructions on how to cite their work. Would this not imply that the articles and pictures are to be used elsewhere under the appropriate license? Regards, BlindEagle 11:14, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

          Reply posted on User talk:BlindEagle. -Sherool (talk) 13:14, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

          Thank you

          The Special Barnstar
          I hereby award you this award for your patience in helping me understand the difference with the Wiki free use license and images on FAO. Much thanks! BlindEagle 19:32, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


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          Talk:World Forestry Congress|Non-free image overuse

          Hej, Sherool, og takk skall du ha for det. I do take image copyright seriously and should like to know what needs be done so that the images can stay. At the moment, I'm providing the required explanation. Er, not sure that will do, though. Please note that, I'm a new(er) Wikipedian and would like to learn more. How can I make those images stay? Would you need an authorization in writing form the copyright owner? Thank you for your guidance! Ha det bra, Isiaunia (talk) 17:07, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

          Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:World_Forestry_Congress"

          Hello Sherool, am adding a line on your talk page to ensure you see my response! Have made changes as per your indications. As far as I can see, all images now meet all 10 of the 10 criteria listed under "Misplaced Pages:Non-free content policy". Hence, I'd like to have the "non-free" tag on top of the World Forestry Congress removed, if possible. However, if you should think that something is not quite right, could you please advise on what is missing or, refer me to someone who can advise? Please note that written permission to use the images can be obtained, if necessary. Again, many thanks for your kind contribution, it is my intention too that the World Forestry Congress be fully Misplaced Pages compliant. Isiaunia (talk) 18:11, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

          P.S. A sudden thought has come to mind: what if I created a Misplaced Pages page for "Unasylva" - with an image gallery for the World Forestry Congress? Would it be possible to use those same images in the WFC article, in that case (I've read that non-free images should appear in one article, at least)? Wondering... Isiaunia (talk) 19:14, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

          Hello Sherool, this is a gentle reminder... another question for you: of course, links to the Unsaylva issues can always be provided, so that interested readers can access more information on each Congress (Unasylva devoted some of its issues to full reports on and from each of the Congresses). That would of course reduce the amopunt of the images appearing on the page... how many doyou sugegst I keep? Thank you! Isiaunia (talk) 16:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

          Belated reply posted on User talk:Isiaunia. --Sherool (talk) 15:11, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

          Hi Sherool, many thanks for this - you are quite right about many of the covers, those may not be needed :-) Some, however, allow me to do just what you suggested above: "Would be better to add something about Unasylva's coverage (including any important quotes) into the main text itself, as it stand Unasylva is not even mentioned in the article except as "self references" in the image captions." For instance, where cover art work is directly related to the Congress, or where reference is made to planting a tree together (symbolically enough, the actors being representatives from the host country, USA and USSR...!). In the image caption, the anecdote is reported. So, I could just leave a few images? That way, it is also more intuitive for the reader that Unasylva has covered the Congress throughout the years (as is the case with image 2, and its caption) while reporting anecdotes (such as the stamp as tribute to the WFC, by UN Secreteray general in year 1961). Then, linkage to full cobverage in Unasylva can be provided by linking each subtitle of the Congress to a speficic Unasylva issue. What do you think? OK, late enough for me too - hope you stop having night shifts for a while! (excuse me, not sure where you'll be reading/finding this response!) Isiaunia (talk) 18:51, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

          Reply posted on User talk:Isiaunia. --Sherool (talk) 21:39, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
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          Reply posted on User talk:Isiaunia. --Sherool (talk) 20:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

          Your assistance please...

          The deletion log shows you deleted File:Asadullah Khalid asad.jpg.

          Could you tell me whether the image you deleted was the same as either of these two images of known provenance? File:Asadullah Khalid in 2004.jpg, File:Ribbon cutting, Bridge over the Tarnak, Kandahar, Afghanistan.jpg

          Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 08:26, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

          Reply posted on User talk:Geo Swan. --Sherool (talk) 16:29, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
          Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 16:35, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

          Regarding File:ישראל פלג.jpg

          Hi,

          Could you check this one. It was first uploaded to Commons as File:Israel-Peleg.jpg and then tagged as "need permission" and then uploaded here today as File:ישראל פלג.jpg referencing OTRS:2009071610018913 but tagged with the "Permission to use on Misplaced Pages only" tag. I guess the obvious conclution would be that the permission was literaly to use on Misplaced Pages only and delete it but whenever I see a reference to a OTRS ticket combined with a questionable license tag I like to get it checked just in case the uploader just picked the wrong license template for whatever reason. --Sherool (talk) 21:02, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

          OTRS ticket is permission for Misplaced Pages only; I've deleted it. Thanks. Stifle (talk) 21:20, 29 July 2009 (UTC)