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Chiropractic (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
For archived investigations, see Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Chiropractic/Archive.
Report date August 4 2009, 22:02 (UTC)
- Suspected sockpuppets
Users active in current dispute:
- QuackGuru (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Stmrlbs (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Levine2112 (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Possibly involved accounts no longer active under these names:
- WinrarWinner (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Surturz (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- TheDoctorIsIn (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Hughgr (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- DigitalC (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- 70.71.22.45 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log)) (admits prior account, wiki knowledge, reverts during edit wars, involved in consensus discussions)
- 86.134.240.225 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log)) (shows up for edit wars, calls reverts vandalism)
- 86.146.119.24 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log)) (shows up for edit wars, calls edits vandalism, uses words like fringe POV pushers)
- 24.68.247.69 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log)) (reverts during edit wars, wiki knowledge)
Variety of IPs in range(166.128.0.0 - 166.255.255.255) for wireless cellphones were used to avoid violating 3RR; often perform exactly the same edits/reverts as Levine2112; example IPS:
- 166.191.225.235 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
- 166.134.18.118 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
- 166.135.62.157 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
- 166.190.79.69 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
- 166.203.131.73 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
AT&T Mobile; unfortunately a large block (32.0.0.0 - 32.255.255.255 ) may not be useful; example IPs:
- 32.174.126.62 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
- 32.174.185.155 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
- 32.154.164.246 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
- 32.133.106.62 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
- Evidence submitted by User:Shell Kinney
There are ongoing battles in Chiropractic and related articles which fall under the arbitration remedies given at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Pseudoscience#Remedies. Some of the above mentioned editors have been previously warned or sanctioned under these remedies (see Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Pseudoscience#Log_of_blocks_and_bans and Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Martinphi-ScienceApologist#Log_of_notifications) and there has been a history of using meatpuppets, sockpuppets or logging out to continue revert wars or influence consensus building discussions in this topic area. Several of the accounts listed as inactive stopped editing immediately or shortly after being warned of the Arbcom sanctions which brings up concerns that they are now avoiding scrutiny.
This area had calmed down for a while, but now that there are content disagreements again, IPs are resurfacing with the same patterns: blind reverts, obvious understanding of Misplaced Pages terms and processes, chiming in to support one side or the other in consensus discussions - its disruptive and makes enforcing the arb sanctions very complicated and resolving the constant disputes nearly impossible. If any of the involved users are logging out to give the appearance of extra support or avoid scrutiny, it would likely mean sanctions which hopefully will allow editors who are handling these situations in good faith to resolve disputes more productively. Shell 01:30, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
I believe there is strong evidence that Levine2112 is either logging out to avoid scrutiny/continue edit wars or is, at best, enlisting meat puppets to revert during edit wars. Consider the following exchange from May on Chiropractic history:
- May 8, QuackGuru adds a claim about mysticism being part of Chiro's history
- Over the next 4 days, Levine2112 and many different IP addresses revert this same edit. They mention the same claims, never participate in the discussion and some IPs even mention agreeing with Levine. The IPs strangely understand terminology such as consensus, BRD, sourcing and bad faith. , , , , , , , , ,
- User:BullRangifer and User:2over0 both revert the IPs and were active in the discussion on talk where Levine2112 was the sole objector. Shell 00:42, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- Comments by accused parties See Defending yourself against claims.
- Comments by other users
- CheckUser requests
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- Checkuser request – code letter: A (Arbcom ban/sanction evasion )
- Current status – Awaiting initial clerk review. Requested by Shell 22:02, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
- Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
* It doesn't seem likely that QuackGuru and Levine112 are linked, at least; of the other accounts, can you state who you believe related to who and which IPs? More concrete connections to verify might help limit the number of checks involved in a request like this. Will note that CU action to clean up an area of ArbCom enforcement is something that ArbCom has recently endorsed, if I remember correctly. Nathan 22:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
- I apologize for the convoluted mess :) Essentially we have two "factions" here with bad habits that are making it hard to guess what's what. My main concerns for checkuser are:
- QuackGuru against 86.134.240.225 and 86.146.119.24 which are in the same block and have been used to edit war.
- Levine2112 against the 166.128.0.0 - 166.255.255.255 range (specific IP examples above).
- 70.71.22.45 admits a prior account and could be checked against the "inactive" list. Best guess would be Hughgr followed by Surturz.
- As for the rest, they are all "pro" Chiropractic which would essentially leave open anyone but QuackGuru, however, I strongly believe that Levine2112 is involved in them. I think they can be handled without checkuser since stepping through their behavior shows pretty clearly that they are, at the very least, meatpuppets brought in solely to edit war. (see further detail added to evidence above) Shell 00:42, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- Conclusions
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