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Ireland cricket flag

Hi, this is no doubt too late but I was only just pointed towards Misplaced Pages:Media copyright questions/Archive/2009/July#Irish cricket flag. I work with one of Cricket Ireland's PR staff at the CricketEurope website, and can confirm that the Cricket Ireland flag is not actually copyrighted. Can you point me in the direction of someone who can help sort this out to get the file back? Thanks. Andrew nixon (talk) 17:12, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

I think WP:Deletion review might be the most appropriate place. We will probably need an email from Cricket Ireland to WP:OTRS to verify their lack of copyright claim on the image. Hope this helps — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:27, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Flagicon (?)

I was wondering how do you get the flag with the Question Mark (Shown Here) in a bigger size.
♪♫ Mr. Unknown (talk/My Barnstars) ♪♫

Using {{flagicon}} with no parameters is an error condition, which is why you get that non-flag image. Just use normal MediaWiki image syntax (i.e. ] if you want that image at a different size. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 20:51, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much for being helpful.

♪♫ Mr. Unknown (talk/My Barnstars) ♪♫

template test

Does Template:Flag data 1896 Summer Olympics still serve any purpose ? Otherwise you might want to db-author it. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 20:36, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Template:FlagO and this one. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 20:37, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

That's still a work in progress. Does it matter that they're still live pages? I've deleted for now, but will likely re-create them later. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 20:47, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh, if you still want to use them, that's no problem, i'm just going through some unlinked templates and deleting edit tests and stuff. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 20:49, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Myanmar

Hi, Please Change "link alias-volleyball = Burma" to "Myanmar". --Mohsen1248 (talk) 17:35, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I split the template back into distinct Country data Burma and Country data Myanmar templates, so none of those "link alias" overrides are needed anymore. {{vb|MYA}} will do as you expect now. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 19:06, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks --Mohsen1248 (talk) 08:54, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Template:Country data Distrito Federal

I've moved Template:Country data Distrito Federal to Template:Country data Brazilian Federal District, because there are two Distrito Federal: Distrito Federal (Brazil) and Distrito Federal (Mexico). I've dabbed all templates, so can you delete the redirect from Template:Country data Distrito Federal to Template:Country data Brazilian Federal District? Thanks. Chanheigeorge (talk) 10:23, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

 Done — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 16:09, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

List of micronations status review

I have nominated List of micronations for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. With regards, Piano non troppo (talk) 01:07, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Hungary at the 1988 Winter Olympics

A tag has been placed on Hungary at the 1988 Winter Olympics requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Misplaced Pages:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content. You may wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Ccrashh (talk) 00:57, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Table of elevation extremes by country

I apologize for inadvertently doing a bulk overwrite of your change to the Elevation Extremes table. I am still making some last minute additions to the table.

The final row of the Elevation Extremes table is a sortbottom row used as a summary. I used the globe to distinguish this immobile summary row from the rest of the rows. I could rename the "Flags" column to something generic like "Images", but I think the globe is quite clearly not a flag. Please let me know what you think.

I concur with your request to delete Template:Country data Spratly Islands.

Yours aye, Buaidh (talk) 18:40, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Ah, ok, thanks! My objection to the animated icon is not exclusively that it is not a flag, but that it is distracting and unnecessary. The Earth row is in bold, and doesn't sort, so there are already enough indicators to show that it is a summary row. An animated graphic just seems, well, rather unencyclopedic. I would presume that the editors who abide by WP:MOSICON would agree. Thanks for your consideration.

PS - I had also put a note on the talk page. I know you disagree with the seeming "authority" of the list of sovereign states articles with respect to what is a country and what is not, but in my mind, some of the entries you've included on this list seem rather out of place. The highest point in Alaska or Hawaii, for example, would be far more interesting than the highest point on Navassa Island, but your inclusion criteria for this list excludes exclave U.S. states while including French overseas regions, U.S. uninhabited territories, etc. That inconsistency across Misplaced Pages lists is awkward at best. Thanks — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 18:50, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

My initial criteria for inclusion in the Elevation Extremes table was merely based upon the availability of reliable data. I'm looking at some possible schemes for selecting dependent territories. --Buaidh (talk) 21:53, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Your welcome! --Buaidh (talk) 22:16, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Commonwealth naval variants

Would it be possible to add the 'naval-' variants listed at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Flag Template#Naval ensigns for Canada, Australia, and New Zealand? I've been working on updating ship navbox templates and infobox flags when I encounter them. An example of where these variants would be useful is in Template:British E class submarine. The use of Template:Navy there brings up the current (i.e. post-1967) Royal Australian Navy ensign, which is anachronistic for submarines in service during World War I. The same thing applies to using Template:Shipboxflag in infoboxes, like for HMAS AE1. I know that it would be just as easy to use {{shipboxflag|UK|naval}} to generate the correct flag, but my concern is that a future, good-intentioned editor might come in and change it to Australia resulting in an incorrect flag; being able to use {{shipboxflag|Australia|naval-1913}} might alleviate that. Many thanks in advance. — Bellhalla (talk) 21:52, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

 Done but I'm not sure its all correct. For {{shipboxflag}}, I had thought that a comment in the wiki text could certainly explain the need for the UK ensign for these countries before they adopted their own, so I didn't think these variants were necessary for use with that template, but now I can see how they are necessary for use with {{navy}}. However, there is a problem with Canada. We have two articles for their navy, at Royal Canadian Navy for the pre-1968 unit and at Canadian Forces Maritime Command for the current unit. That led to the creation of the special-purpose {{navy RCN}} template. But if you want to use something like {{navy|Canada|naval-1911}}, you're going to end up with the wrong wikilink. I'll try to figure out how to fix that, but in the meantime, you should have all you need for shipboxflag. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 00:02, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. It looks like {{navy|Canada|1911}} and the other variants are working properly with the changes you made to the country data for Canada. I replaced the only two remaining uses of Template:Navy RCN and requested its speedy deletion. — Bellhalla (talk) 11:54, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Great! — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 14:26, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I've got another pair of commonwealth flags for you to add to Template:Country data India. If you could add File:Naval Ensign of the United Kingdom.svg as "naval-1928" and File:Flag of Imperial India.svg as "naval-1879", that would be fantastic. Thanks in advance. (You can take a look at Template:Bangor class minesweeper to see if the first one has worked.) — Bellhalla (talk) 22:46, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

 Done — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 23:00, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Older Soviet naval flags

Would it be possible to add the "naval-1924" and "naval-1935" variants listed at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Flag Template#Naval ensigns to Template:Country data Soviet Union? I have a submarine, Soviet submarine S-2 (sunk in 1940) that needs the 1935 flavor. Thanks! — Bellhalla (talk) 17:39, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

 Done— Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:49, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! — Bellhalla (talk) 20:20, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

How about an update for Template:Country data Syria so that {{navy|Syria}} show "Syrian Navy" rather than "Syria Navy"? (The naval ensign, as far as I can determine, is the same as the national flag.) — Bellhalla (talk) 20:58, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Another flag request: Can you add File:Civil Ensign of the Republic of China.svg as the "civil" variant of Template:Country data Republic of China? The article HMS Archer (D78) needs to display the proper flag for when the ship was registered in Taipei. Many thanks in advance. — Bellhalla (talk) 21:07, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

 Done— Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 21:09, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Another flag/country data request: Can you add File:Naval Ensign of Oman.svg and a link to Royal Navy of Oman to Template:Country data Oman? Omani corvette Qahir Al Amwaj will benefit by the addition. As usual, I offer my many thanks in advance. :) — Bellhalla (talk) 18:01, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Dang! That was fast! — Bellhalla (talk) 18:06, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, I am online and got the message banner, so yeah, no problem! — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 18:07, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

NATO flag

Is the NATO flag itself copyrighted, or only the picture Flag-of-Nato.svg? If the latter, aren't there any non-copyrighted pictures that can be uploaded on Misplaced Pages Commons? - Many articles would benefit from a mini NATO flag, in the same way many articles use a mini UN flag. 76.173.196.41 (talk) 17:45, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

The NATO logo itself is a copyright held by them, regardless of how it is rendered. The SVG file hosted on en.wiki still is a copyright owned by NATO, subject to their terms at http://www.nato.int/services/hints.html. The key phrase is "allowed for non-commercial purposes", which is not "free", which is why the image cannot be hosted on Commons, and can only be used in a very limited manner on this Misplaced Pages per WP:Non-free content criteria. Right now the image is seen only in three articles, for which a valid fair-use criteria applies, and that's it. Usage as a tiny icon on other articles does not meet the criteria for fair-use on this wiki. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 18:30, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Whoops

Sorry didn't see your edit there. Perhaps you can see why Natalie Darwitz isn't working.-DJSasso (talk) 19:45, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

That was what I fixed. The parameter in her article is ntl_team_women but {{Infobox ice hockey player}} was looking at ntl_team for the input to {{ihw}}, so my fix changed that. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 20:01, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

You are right...forgot about the job queue. It hadn't updated for me yet even when I refreshed so I thought it was still broken. -DJSasso (talk) 20:40, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

List of Olympic Games host cities

how do I reply to your message. I don't see how that is done. thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ellisond (talk • contribs) 15:52, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

You click on "edit this page" at the top of your talk page, just as you did to leave this message here. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 16:01, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

International Logo?

Hello, I would like you to tell me how in the heck, I am going to do the navboxes on User:bluedogtn/Sandbox I, and if I cannot use the logo these are useless that I am going to create. Because it needs a logo at the side to match the Ryder Cup and Presidents cup ones? I would like to know what I am suppose to do? If you cannot come up with a solution, I will have to have you delete the sandbox page and the image itself? BLUE_DOG 22:53, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Just don't use the logo. Not every navbox needs one. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 23:01, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

It does not meet the consensus of the others' so I will refrain from creating the other International navboxes! You have to have a logo to make it uniform!BLUE_DOG 23:06, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Go ahead, and delete the logo file!

Maybe use country = World for use with {{National squad}}. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 23:09, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Navy names

I really hate to bother you again but it seems that navy links in a couple of country data templates are pointing to redirects at present:

• Template:Country data Azerbaijan points to Azerbaijan Navy, which is a redirect to Azerbaijani Navy (navy article moved in June 2009)
• Template:Country data Vietnam points to Vietnam People's Navy, which is a redirect to Vietnamese People's Navy (navy article moved in September 2008)

Do with these what you will, but I would imagine that the Vietnam article probably has a lot more eyes on it and an uncontested move from over a year ago is pretty stable. — Bellhalla (talk) 19:01, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

 Done. Have you considered my offer to nominate you as an admin so you can make these sorts of edits yourself?  ;) — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 19:06, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I am considering it. I know it would make your life easier ;) But while I'm here, Template:Country data Belgium should point to Belgian Naval Component rather than Belgian Navy. (I know, I know, just tell me to go away… LOL ) — Bellhalla (talk) 22:26, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

 Done. As for "the bit", I know that the RfA process appears daunting these days, especially since there is excessive drama surrounding some admins, and we all seem to be tarred with the same brush. But I truly believe in WP:NOBIGDEAL. I think RfA should be nothing more than a review of the editor in question to see how trustworthy they are with the tools and activities they plan to pursue. Based on your editing history, that should be a slam dunk. Having the ability to edit protected templates, delete unused categories, etc. is very useful for the gnomish work you often do. And you shouldn't have to be an expert on AfD policy and guidelines if you never plan to close them yourself. So the only trick would be to write a nomination that captured this idea—of a highly trusted editor who plans to use a subset of the admin tools to be more effective in their everyday work. Who wouldn't think that's a good idea? — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 22:39, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

OK, two more for you. Template:Country data Lithuania and Template:Country data South Vietnam need the navy names updated to Lithuanian Naval Force (with a singular Force) and Republic of Vietnam Navy, respectively.

As far as the RfA, I'm willing to undergo the ordeal process if you'd be willing to nominate me. — Bellhalla (talk) 22:20, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Template

Hi there again, Would you mind if I changed one of the variants of Ireland letter code in this template {{rugby squad player}}, as we have players whose nationality is actually Irish, and doesn't come under who they've played for and requires just the tricolor. I would suggest making Ireland the flag one. Cheers 07:05, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, sure, fine by me. I'd also bounce this off the rugby WikiProject, though. Since "IRL" is the standard ISO 3166-1 alpha-3 country code for the Republic of Ireland, and is also used by the IOC, FIFA, and pretty much every other sporting organization as the country code for that nation, the tricolour ought to be attached to the "IRL" code. For the all-Ireland instances, we've been using "IRE" as an alternate country code. So for that template, it looks like you just need to remove the two lines for IRL (and one pair of closing braces), so that it falls through to the default call to {{flagicon}}. Hope this helps — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 07:41, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks and will do later on. I've been on a semi-wiki hiatus for a while, just pottering around but looking to come back a bit. I've started working on some Swiss rugby articles, and will do French and Ivory coast as areas I know and have access to the information. I'm going to stub all the Swiss first division teams and go from there, but was thinking of helping out with WP:RU, I'm not a great one for wiki politics, and shun high drama magnet areas, so wouldn't mind someone elses impressions of the project before I start giving input. 08:30, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

To be honest, I'm not a regular WP:RU participant, but I have done some rugby-related edits and I keep the project talk page on my watchlist, so I am vaguely aware of the work done there. My impression is that it is not very high on the drama-meter, so I wouldn't worry about that! I think they'd be happy to have someone else helping, especially in areas that don't get frequent work done already. Happy editing — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 15:16, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Image use policy clarification

If you have the time I'd like your input on my proposed clarification of WP:Image use policy concerning fair-use/copyright versus public-domain/trademark image use. The proposal is contained here. Thanks. BillTunell (talk) 21:37, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Northern Ireland

Your 'footnote' proposal is acceptable. GoodDay (talk) 20:21, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

MOS Icons

Hi could you explain this please you say that section 2.1.1.2 already says don't use a flag for birth/death locations but the way the text is now it states then the eligibility rule that is most apt should be applied; most often it is the place of birth so is it a conflict? On one hand you cant use the place of birth and further down you can, which is correct thanks. BigDunc 08:57, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, that whole document needs cleanup (and the talk page comments over the past year would indicate several editors agree with that!) so I'm not surprised at apparent discontinuities within the page... — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 21:53, 22 October 2009 (UTC)