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Rollback permission

You are listed as an administrator willing to grant rollback requests. Would you consider granting me rollback permission? Much of what I do is fixing vandalism, so it seems it would be helpful. Updatebjarni (talk) 20:31, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Your contribution history is kind of thin but I don't see any problems with it, so I've granted you WP:ROLLBACK rights. Please read the policy and use appropriately; any admin can remove it as well if your use of rollback is found to be inappropriate. Thanks for your contributions!  Frank  |  talk  20:52, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll use it carefully. Updatebjarni (talk) 00:10, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, can you please help me file an arbcom case for SYJYTG to be unblocked? 121.7.203.152 (talk) 14:47, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

As someone who has been involved in previous blocks and a socking investigation of User:Syjytg, I'm probably not the right person to be involved in this request. On what basis would you be making a request to unblock this account?  Frank  |  talk  15:09, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

I have changed. I am not asking you to unblock me. Please do not misunderstand. I am asking to help me file a case in arbcom as I cannot do so. Thanks. 121.7.203.152 (talk) 15:13, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Please see Misplaced Pages:Appealing a block, in particular the Appeal to the Arbitration Committee section.  Frank  |  talk  15:43, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Standard_offer#How_does_it_work.3F. 121.7.203.152 (talk) 16:44, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Do you wish to make a statement in support being offered the "standard offer"? I would consider unprotecting your talk page for you to do so if you are serious. Do keep in mind that the socking was only part of the problem - the "last straw" so to speak. The reason you were socking is because you were blocked for edit warring; that must all be taken into account as well.  Frank  |  talk  17:01, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes. 121.7.203.152 (talk) 17:02, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it appears you can already edit your own talk page. Have you tried?  Frank  |  talk  17:09, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Can you help me open a thread? "If they agree a review is appropriate, they'll open a thread at an administrative noticeboard (WP:AN or WP:ANI)." I can edit my own talkpage but I can't edit the relavant pages like the request for arbitration page. 121.7.203.152 (talk) 17:15, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm waiting for a suitable statement on your talk page, from your account, that indicates an understanding of what was wrong with your editing in the past and your desire to edit within guidelines if you were to be unblocked. If I agree that statement from you suggests a review is appropriate, I'll open the thread and ask others to review.  Frank  |  talk  19:00, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Syjytg 220.255.7.158 (talk) 11:20, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Anyway, why has my IP addressed been changed? Last time it wasn't this address. 220.255.7.153 (talk) 11:22, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Your IP has changed likely either because you're in a different place or because your provider gave you a new dynamic address the next time you connected to the Internet.  Frank  |  talk  13:07, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Farrah Fawcett

Hi! According to these two sites (www.statemaster.com, Accuracy Project site) Fawcett's birth certificate, which is usually the final word on this sort of thing, has "Ferrah" as her first name, although the Accuracy Project avers that this was a misspelling. Yours. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 15:28, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

I am personally acquainted with a situation in which a birth certificate was recorded incorrectly. That is not to say that I know hers was, but it could have happened, and given the sources available on this matter, that does appear to be what happened. Having said that, it is pretty much a moot point; we are generally not in the habit of using WP:PRIMARY sources anyway, and that's one reason why. The reliable sources mostly report she was born Farrah; since there are some that report Ferrah, that is also reflected in the article. The suggestion that "Mary" was somehow involved in her name doesn't appear to be supported anywhere reliable, however. The talk page for her article already has some discussion on this matter, and I recommend any further question be placed there.  Frank  |  talk  15:35, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Casual Collective

Happyland123 (talk) 21:37, 21 November 2009 (UTC) Hi this is HappyLand123. I saw you deleted my post about the Casual Collective. I just wanted to explain why I made the post. The Casual Collective is a very popular gaming website, with tens of thousands of players. I think it has 60,000 players but I have to go check. It also offers a variety of games that are of excellent quality, and has been featured in the news several times. Its founders are very famous, for example Paul Preece was the founder of Desktop TD.

I'm going to recreate the Casual Collective page, and I will try to include why it is a significant company. If you disagree with me, then please feel free to talk to me about this! Or if you think that this website is not fit to be posted on Misplaced Pages then please delete it again. I think that I didn't explain its significance well enough though.

Thanks! Happyland123 (talk) 21:37, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

first page

Don't delete my first page Frank!! I'm a Newbie and still learning.will get on the mistakes i made,just need to practise.I'm a big Fan of Jen Dawson's and would like to be the one who created her page --Bessiya (talk) 14:57, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I didn't delete it; I proposed it for deletion. I don't see that she is notable enough to have an article here.  Frank  |  talk  16:01, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Richard William Aguirre

Frank, I am requesting to have the Richard William Aguirre page be published. I have added the Save Sunset Cliffs page to establish significance of "Richard William Aguirre" as being notable in itself. "Richard William Aguirre" is the founder of "Save Sunset Cliffs" in San Diego,Ca. and also a Democratic Candidate for Governor of California in 2010. Sdpolitics (talk) 06:48, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Notability is not inherited, although it can help establish someone's notability. In this case, I'm not convinced, because the group itself doesn't even appear notable. The article is not even about the group but about efforts to protect the park. I am considering nominating it for deletion; it reads much more like an essay than an encyclopedic article. Also, there are very few hits for it in the Google News archive, and some of them aren't even for this group. Finally, keep in mind that the article you are trying to create was deleted via a community deletion discussion that I didn't even have any involvement in, although I agree with the result. If he becomes more notable through his candidacy for the governorship, perhaps it will be appropriate to have an article at a later date. If he's elected, that will surely be sufficient. Right now...I don't see it.  Frank  |  talk  13:53, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. I will edit the Save Sunset Cliffs Article to read like an encyclopedia article. I will add the San Diego City Master Park Plan which names the group "Save Sunset Cliffs" as one of the major contriburors to the Sunset Cliffs Natural Park Plan. I will also add more articles that have been written on "Save Sunset Cliffs" to the refrences section. Sdpolitics (talk) 17:11, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Regarding Joseph E Prince

Please explain why you deleted this page - this is a verifiable story at imdb.com under Liberation Saturday Deedee485 (talk) 03:32, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

I deleted Joseph E Prince under WP:CSD#A7, because it listed a person who was a high school and college athlete but did not participate at any professional level. These did not seem to be assertions of notability to me. In re-reading the deleted article, I do see that there was an assertion: He is most noted for 2008 short documentary Liberation Saturday... which technically disqualifies this article for speedy deletion. That doesn't mean the subject is notable, but if you wish me to restore it I will do so. You may reasonably expect someone else to nominate it for deletion, however; being the subject of a documentary is not generally considered to confer notability. (Note that the film does not have an article either.) When you recreated the article two days later and a different admin deleted it, the same A7 reason was given, and that deletion was correct, as it did not even assert notability. Another option is for me to restore the article to your own user space so you can work on it and get advice from others before moving it to the main article space.  Frank  |  talk  12:03, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Frank, I thank you for your comments. Are you saying an athlete must be a pro to be notable? Is All-American not notable? The last last person to delete it indicated it may be a " non existent film.. really????? Photos of the premier can be found at liberationsaturday.com. Joe has limited access to the internet but I will try to get him in front of the computer this weekend as he would like to communicate with you. Please restore the article. Thank you, deedee 485Deedee485 (talk) 16:24, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Per your request I have restored the article, but I have also nominated it for WP:PROD deletion because I don't see that the subject is notable enough for inclusion. I am not saying an athlete must be a pro to be notable, nor that All-American is not notable. What WP:ATHLETE says, in general, is that if an athlete is a professional, then they are presumed to be notable. As for All-American, it generally isn't enough by itself to establish sufficient notability for inclusion. As for the documentary, I don't see how that makes one notable either. Regarding communicating with me, I don't think that's really necessary; this is a community and its standards are not set by one person. Also, the subject of an article doesn't determine his or her own notability; that's not how it works.  Frank  |  talk  17:53, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Frank, Thanks for your prompt response. Joe Prince has a lifetime of news clips covering his track career from Palo Alto to Eastern Europe. A couple of years ago he had the front cover of the Arizona daily Star because he was considered "notable" by Tommie Smith, one of the world's best known track athletes as well as Joe's coach. As for the documentary,very few people warrant that type of attention so we will have to agree to disagree on that one. Misplaced Pages standards are interesting to me as they do seem arbitrary at best. Are you really a better judge of notable than any number of large market newspapers? Joe is often invited to speak to school audiences about his career and disabilities. I was having lunch with him recently when a woman recognized him and asked him to speak at the next local Martin Luther King Day ceremonies. At a high school track event a young NFL player recognized him, walked over and described him as a "legend" in the Bay Area track community. We were at Best Buy when the young sales guy said " I know you, my father has talked about you." He was featured on the 700 Club and described as an "inspiration." Please consider dropping your objections to this article. I understand that a person cannot make themselves notable, but can two people editing Misplaced Pages truly determine that a person is not? Seems like an odd arrangement to me

Thanks again deedee485Deedee485 (talk) 22:37, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

My "objections" to this article are simply that I don't see that it meets any criteria for inclusion. If you can show otherwise, please improve it. Note that it is currently just listed as a WP:PROD deletion; if you object, you can simply remove that. The next step will be WP:AFD, which will generate a community discussion to determine whether or not the subject is notable enough for conclusion. It certainly isn't a unilateral decision, and I've already undeleted it at your request.  Frank  |  talk  04:34, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

oops - thanks

Hi Franks, thanks for the advice with the 'move' tab. I'll take on board possibility that the article may be contested, but that is something for the article's talk page. Thanks, Darigan (talk) 15:37, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving!

I just wanted to wish those Wikipedians who have been nice enough to give me a barnstar or smile at me, supportive enough to agree with me, etc., a Happy Thanksgiving! Sincerely, --A Nobody 06:39, 27 November 2009 (UTC)