Talk:Foreign relations of the State of Palestine

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Lots of unnecessary duplication

Right now there is significant duplication of material in the following three articles:

I'm going to think about this for a bit and read a bit about how other countries handle such a situation before deciding on a course of action. --Abnn 22:47, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Focus

This article should be more about the substantive political history of the foreign relations with specific states over the last 13 years or so, and less about a list of embassies (information which is contained on other pages). AnonMoos 11:28, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Syria

The list included a number of states for which no reference was given (Montenegro, Serbia, Syria and Australia). Whereas I could provide one for Montenegro, Serbia and Australia, I don't find a reference for the recognition of Palestine as a State by Syria. I therefore removed it for the list, but naturally someone who does find a reference may add it again. MaartenVidal (talk) 12:48, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

States granting special diplomatic status

Can someone who know explains what the difference between the different types of diplomatic status is particularly between a General Delegation of Palestine and a General Palestinian Delegation. --Gramscis cousin_Stalk 17:55, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Problem - overlap

I have been adding refs to the list of countries which recognize the State of Palestine. It just occurred to me however that this information should not even be here really since it is covered in List of diplomatic missions of Palestine. Further, the PA is not the representative of the Palestinian people in the international arena, the PLO is. The PA is merely an interim administration which is charged with local government under the Oslo accords. I think we whould remove the entire section to List of diplomatic missions of Palestine. I'm not sure this article should even exist given that the PA has no authority to represent the Palestinian people in the international arena. Perhaps an AfD is in order? Tiamut 12:30, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree; the list is problematic because it implies that it is a list of countries that recognize the PLO-declared State of Palestine (1988), which apparently Pedir did mistake it for. It should be removed from this article, and a new list should be created if a source is found for states that recognize the State of Palestine. Media sources say anywhere from 67 to 'about 100' states recognize Palestine. —Ynhockey 13:33, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

The list is problematic because it misrepresents the status of the Palestinian Authority - i.e. in that it gives it authority in the international arena, which it actually does not have. I've removed the list, and merged its content here. The sources cited there make clear that 107 states recognize the State of Palestine, with an additional 25 falling short of statehood recognition, but maintaining diplomatic relations nonetheless. The list has 132 entries once the two were merged which accurately reflects the source cited.

Regarding the other issue I raised, which is that the PA is not authorized to represent Palestine in the international arena, don't you think this article should be deleted? Tiamut 14:06, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

And following up on that idea, if the article is to be kept, should it not be renamed to Foreign relations of the State of Palestine? Tiamut 14:08, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Foreign relations of the Palestinian National Authority

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Foreign relations of the Palestinian National Authority's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "UNESCO":

From Zimbabwe: "HIV Prevalence Rates Fall in Zimbabwe". UNESCO. Retrieved 2007-12-03.
From State of Palestine: "Request for the admission of the State of Palestine to Unesco as a Member State" (PDF). UNESCO. 12 May 1989. Retrieved 2009-08-22.
From Berlin: "World Heritage Site Museumsinsel". UNESCO. Retrieved 2008-08-18.
From Colombia: UNESCO Institute for Statistics Colombia Profile
From Palestine: "Introducing Young People to the Protection of Heritage Sites and Historic Cities" (PDF). UNESCO. 2003. Retrieved 2007-08-14.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 03:16, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

2 Maps?

The map currently being used here is:

The map currently being used on Palestinian National Authority, Proposals for a Palestinian state and State of Palestine is:

Which one is more correct? Are both of them partially right? Should the two be combined?--189.33.2.165 (talk) 13:41, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I think we should just have one and get rid of the other. As far as I know, they're both inaccurate. Different articles also use varying figures regarding the number of states giving recognition, see more on this talk page. The top map is definitely outdated, and the creator also seems to have shaded Honduras instead of Nicaragua (a mix up?). The bottom one may be more accurate, but there are certain countries shaded that might need checking again. Night w (talk) 02:18, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

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