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Separate articles for Tea Party protests and Tea Party movement?

There is a discussion going on at Talk:Tea_Party_protests#Proposed_Move_to_Tea_Party_movement, and in the talkpage sections before and after that section, on whether or not it might be encyclopedically useful to separate the articles for Tea Party protests and Tea Party movement, or {{Merge}} them into a single article by expanding the scope of the TP protests article to include the broader activities of the incipient TP movement. As of 13 January 2010, the Tea Party movement article redirects to Tea Party protests]]. Please weigh in if you have an opinion. N2e (talk) 21:51, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

The move had consensus, discussion on the move is now archived. Publicus 22:19, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

The transition from Tea Party protests to Tea Party movement

Here is an article that might be useful for sourcing the ongoing transition from disparate Tea Party protests to the broader Tea Party movement: Press Takes a New Look at Tea Parties After Brown Win : It would have helped Dems if they'd done it sooner, Weekly Standard, 2010-01-20. I'll leave it for others to decide which articles to use to source the transition within Americal political history. N2e (talk) 21:33, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Genealogy of the movement

I think it would be helpful to break down the different entities that make up this movement. Here are two segments from the Rachel Maddow Show that cover the different organizations, although the segments are probably too POV to use as sources. Below that is a list of the key groups we might include. Thoughts?

• Libertarian anti-tax movement ~ Original pre-Obama activists
• Tea Party Patriots ~ Grassroots group with help from Freedomworks
• Tea Party Express ~ Bus tour run by consulting firm Russo Marsh and Associates (Move America Forward)
• Tea Party Nation ~ Holding a National Convention in February with Sarah Palin as a speaker. (Star Tribune news story)

MakeBelieveMonster (talk) 18:10, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

I've changed the last bullet point slightly, and added a source. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 15:14, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Grammar, sentence structure

When putting in information be careful of run on sentences. Short sentences with subject verb direct object are best.Malke2010 20:15, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

positions and goals section

I moved this section up in the article because of its importance and to enhance understanding for the reader.Malke2010 07:21, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

lead/lede

The article lead contained multiple errors of fact and POV pushing vis-a-vis that the movement has risen up as an anti-Obama movement, making it appear that as soon as he was inaugurated, protests began against him. This is not at all true. The movement originated in Seattle Washington because of frustration over the stimulus package. It gained ground after the March 2009 disclosure of the AIG executive pay bonuses, and the increasing number of home mortgage foreclosures despite provisions in the bill to support the banks holding the notes. Also note, that it is a grass-roots movement and also, it is not accurate to call it a conservative movement. People of all races and political persuasions have joined this movement. Please do not make changes without first discussing them here. Thanks.Malke2010 07:35, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Ron Paul's mention in lead

Yesterday, Malke 2010 moved the paragraph on Ron Paul from History to the lead, citing a need for "clarity".

In my opinion, Ron Paul is only tangentially involved in the Tea Party movement and then only to its history, unless someone has a source that says the term Tea Party (in its modern context) derives from Rep. Paul's speeches. (Or he attended a TPM rally or mentioned TP in congress, etc.) In addition, by eliminating the second sentence in the History paragraph (But no independent movement...), the sole reason (IMO) for Rep. Paul's inclusion in the first place was also eliminated.

I have just reorganized the paragraphs in the lead section. Without the sentence about Ron Paul in the lead, the two sentences in the paragraph before it more properly belong at the top of the article just after the definition. I will make this change and restore the two-sentence paragraph (from the 19:40, 28 January 2010 version) to History some time within the next few days unless someone objects. --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 14:49, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

The lead should summarize the article so that the reader can understand the topic by just reading it without having to read the whole article. The Tea Party Movement had a dramatic increase in protesters after the AIG bonus pay was announced. The citation from the New York Times should also be kept in place.Malke2010 15:00, 29 January 2010 (UTC)