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Philadelphia Phillies won the NLCS 5 to 4 against the dodgers http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/20/sports/baseball/20nlcs.html?hp — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.99.52.71 (talk • contribs) 19 October 2009 (UTC)

That was the score of the latest game. The series isn't over yet :). Ginsengbomb (talk) 05:40, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

FYI

I will be trying to get this article featured ASAP. Staxringold talk 11:39, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

If that's the case then just a heads up that it would probably be good to remove the non-free logo, per Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/2004 World Series/archive2. I definitely support your efforts, but I wouldn't recommend rushing anything simply to get an FA. blackngold29 19:31, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Season Series

Should a note be made about the season series between the two teams? I believe they played only once during the regular season with the Phillies winning two in a three game series. 64.141.133.22 (talk) 14:07, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Update

Jay-Z and Alesha Keys will be performing their song Empire State of Mind prior to game 2 of the world series. Also can we list the opening pitch of the games and who sang the national athem and other music as it happenes.--Cooly123 16:22, 29 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 (talk • contribs)

country flag icons in infobox without country textual descriptive

why are no country names provided next to flag icons in infobox? see MOS:ICON#Accompany flags with country names. in reality, why are flags used at all instead of just country name in parentheses?--98.113.187.11 (talk) 09:45, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Utley and Rivera's stock pics

I found that 2008 WS uses stock pics, too. However, can we provide additional information, such as when/where they were taken, so reader won't be misled?--NullSpace (talk) 22:21, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

  • Add the info (2004 World Series does, mentioning the shots are from 07) if you think it's needed. It's just that sometimes the "stock" image provides a better image of the person discussed within than anything available in that moment. See 1960 South Vietnamese coup attempt, for example, a featured article on an "event" such as this. But the individuals at play in the article are all displayed by more generic, timeless photos. Staxringold talk 22:29, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
    • Please understand that I am not against using stock pics. But if we use one, we have to also tell readers that it's not taken during the series for clearify. They did that well in 2004 WS and 2008 WS articles... --NullSpace (talk) 22:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Go for it. I would but I've gotta' go grab dinner before the dining hall closes! :) Staxringold talk 22:46, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Why was there a mention of the blown call in the top of the 8th, in the caption of the Rivera photo? That was only a makeup call, for the blown call in the bottom of the 7th. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.113.169.191 (talk) 16:00, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Quotes

Two things guys. First, unsourced quotes will get deleted really fast. Second, lets not overload the thing and turn it into a trivia section. A few choice ones is nice, too many is ugly. Staxringold talk 01:44, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

The two quotes currently in the article remain uncited. Also, I don't think we need to dedicate an entire section to two quotes which really tell the reader nothing new. blackngold29 16:29, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


OH I'M SORRY STAX IS THIS YOUR ARTICLE? DO YOU OWN IT? A VIDEO OF THEY ACTUAL CALL IS NOT A REFERENCE??? By the way what does this mean. "Linking to a random video is not a cite and a series quotes section is NOT in the 2 FA WS articles" I don't mean to be rude, but I don't read gibberish, could you please spell it out 2 FA WS?????? If your trying to say series quotes are not part of any other World Series articles YOUR WRONG CHECK THE LAST THREE... UM just how is the video random??? Looks to me the FOX LOGO is clearly there, it is available on yankees.com, mlb.com, and phillies.com It does not seem to be random when you click on it, it show you what you need to see. It is as credible as any source out there, on any other wikipedia page.--Subman758 (talk) 05:29, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Umpire controversy

Would it be worth adding a section on all of the umpire controversy involved in the series? The whole post-season has included it, but I can't remember a World Series with so many calls that have been wrong on the replay. MachineFist (talk) 06:46, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

  • It already has one. Feel free to add more well sourced info. That section will have to get incorporated to meet style guidelines, but the info is useful. Staxringold talk 06:54, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
    • Sounds good. By the way, I'm going to put the note about Cabrera leaving with a hammy strain back in with a reference; I'm 90% sure I saw it mentioned in one of the wrap-up articles. MachineFist (talk) 08:19, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm a big fan of Mekly. He's a gritty player... not the best hitter, but usually makes his AB's count. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MachineFist (talk • contribs) 08:59, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Ratings

Question, which set of sourcing should we use? I currently have the Variety numbers listed, but they use a different definition for ratings/share, apparently because those numbers differ greatly from:

What do you think, who should we use? Staxringold talk 08:57, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, their numbers in "household" ratings/share are the same. The household rating/share (a.k.a. fast national ratings issued by NMR):
  • G1: 11.9/19 (19.5m viewers)
  • G2: 11.7/19 (18.9m viewers)
  • G3: 9.1/18 (15.4m viewers)
  • (average of above): 10.9/19 (17.9m viewers)
And the adults 18-49 rating:
  • G1: 6.3
  • G2: 5.7
  • G3: (not available)
I think the household ratings/share are fair enough for us.--NullSpace (talk) 14:07, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Is TVbythenumbers often used as a reliable source? My first instinct would be to go with MLB's numbers. GlassCobra 14:52, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Here is a great ratings summary article for the world series from zap2it.com which should be integreted someway ]--Cooly123 01:38, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Date formatting in refs

Currently some of the refs are YYYY-MM-DD format and some are Month DD, YYYY. Which format do we want to standardize to? Staxringold talk 01:38, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

I personally prefer MMM DD, YYYY. We're Americans here, whether it's called the "World Series" or not. But I don't care very much about it, so I could be easily overruled. --Muboshgu (talk) 01:46, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Ok then, lets go ahead and do it (that does seem like the best style to me, no potential mix up with MM and DD when they could be switched, like November 2 or February 11). I'll format new refs that way, and whenever you see one in a section you're editing try to fix it! Staxringold talk 02:37, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Composite box

Shouldn't the Yankees, the team with home field advantage, be the home team in the composite box? Staxringold talk 04:13, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Image question

Here's a question on images. I've added Lee's image to Game 5 for now, but what do you think about swapping Lee and Utley with Games 1 and 5? Game 1 was Lee's truly dominant and historic start, and Game 5 is where Utley tied Reggie's record. Whaddya say? Staxringold talk 04:44, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Agree. Lee's Game 1 performance is truly dominant. Move his pic to G1 seems more appropriate.--NullSpace (talk) 12:22, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Credibility

How can the general seeker after the truth give the slightest credence to an article which has had 500 edits in a couple of days?--SilasW (talk) 14:03, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

I'd say easily, since this has been a subject of great interest that many people have added to, and the high volume of edits has allowed for quality control. --Muboshgu (talk) 14:05, 5 November 2009 (UTC){| class="wikitable"

World series finished

They are also trying to become the first NL team to defend their title in the World Series since the 1975–76 Cincinnati Reds, as well as trying to repeat as World Series champions for the first time in franchise history. Locally, they're trying to become the first Philadelphia team to defend a major professional sports championship since the Flyers won the 1975 Stanley Cup, defending their 1974 championship.

The World series is over, so could this be removed or edited?--Delliot (talk) 20:02, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay. It can be kept, but needs to be edited into past tense. --Muboshgu (talk) 20:06, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Lots of teams have tried and failed to defend their World Championship. I suspect they are not all uniformly covered in wikipedia. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 02:13, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Presidential politics

Seriously, stop adding that. It is a completely random set of factoids cited entirely to one random news story that only talks about Philly. If you really think the Curse is notable make a brief mention in the Aftermath section. But read 2004 World Series, that's how a World Series article should be written (and had a way more notable "curse" which has far briefer coverage). Staxringold talk 01:08, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

It's not random. It's not politics. It's just a fact every Yankee fan knows. 24.215.166.244 (talk) 16:36, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

DVD

It's every WS game plus ALCS Game 6, as seen here. It's the same deal as the 1977 WS CE DVD set (WS games + ALCS Game 5) 24.215.166.244 (talk) 16:36, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

quotes?

I think someone should add quotes to the 2009 World Series page, no? Every other series page has, at least, the calls of the big plays and broadcasters calling the end of the series. You could also throw in Jimmy Rollins' "Phillies in five" quote and Mariano Rivera's response ("that's not what's going to happen" or whatever it was). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.124.136.149 (talk) 16:59, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

  • Subman, I presume? Staxringold talk 17:03, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
    • Nope, just a random reader who thinks it makes sense for this type of article. Every other WS page has important quotes and heck, even the ALDS pages have quotes calling the important moments.
  1. The 1976 Flyers were swept in the Stanley Cup Finals by the Montreal Canadiens, the 1981 Phillies lost in the NLDS to the Montreal Expos. The 1983-84 Philadelphia 76ers lost to the New Jersey Nets in the first round of the NBA Playoffs.
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