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Awards and articles I created.
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I have pressed the "Save page" button, over 45,907 times, making me editor number 320 for number of edits.

I now have 20+ barnstars, but like a good monkey, I had to press the little button 2,869 times before I got my first prize.  :(

The BLP Barnstar
I hereby award you this shiny barnstar for your efforts to alert Wikiprojects about how to locate BLPs for their projects and invite their participation in the discussion that would affect potentially all projects with a mass deletion (50,000 by most estimates) of "unsourced" BLPs. Your notice was such a good idea and sharing those links will help push some of those most familiar with the topics to help the articles at risk. Keep up the great work! -- Banjeboi 12:43, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
To the artist formerly known as Ikip, for coming up with Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons/Contest as a productive means to tackling the backlog of unreferenced BLPs. Let's focus our energy and get this puppy off the ground J04n(talk page) 03:00, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
For perpetually defending Misplaced Pages's intended and most valuable purpose: catalogging human knowledge. I hope you had a nice Valentine's Day! Sincerely, A Nobody 00:29, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Defender of the Noble Spirt of Misplaced Pages
For your noble and unbreakable spirit of inclusion, mentorship and fraternity towards your fellow editors and the Wikipedian community. --Grancafé (talk) 02:01, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Barnstar of the Lamp For The Huddled Masses
For your pure intentioned dedication to speaking for those who do not speak, the wretched refuse of the teeming shores of the internet, providing a lamp of illumination. ----Milowent (talk) 03:20, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
For all your work in these difficult days: notifying Wikiprojects, discussing on the RfC's, exposing rogue editors/admins behaviour and also for this exceptional comment, which definitely proves what is the real problem of Misplaced Pages these days. We need more brilliant editors like you! Cyclopia 13:08, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
The Guidance Barnstar
Hi Okip, this barnstar is for your tireless efforts in helping, orienting and encouraging newcomers and novice editors, like me. Thanks, --Grancafé (talk) 15:35, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
Grand Coffee Vizir Barnstar
For your generousous hard work, courage and distinguished dedication to the noble cause of coffee, you are conferred this Grand Coffee Vizir award of high distinction and accomplishment. Congratulations! --Grancafé (talk) 18:23, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
The Barnstar of European Merit

I can not thank you enough for the work you put into Albania-Serbia relations, there is no doubt in my mind that you have earned this barnstar. -Marcusmax(speak) 01:55, 16 April 2009 (UTC) this WikiAward was given to Ikip by Marcusmax(speak) on 01:55, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar may be awarded to those that show a pattern of going the extra mile to be nice, without being asked

Even though I almost always seem to disagree with you, I admire all the hard work you put in to whatever controversy seems to be engulfing Misplaced Pages this week! HJ Mitchell | fancy a chat? 17:25, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Awarded 20 January 2007 to Travb for his valiant defense of  
the Misplaced Pages mission to produce a neutral encyclopedia. Athaenara
The Article Rescue Barnstar
For your tireless effort to save notable articles at AfD. Honestly, your commitment to fighting unnecessary deletions is extraordinary! SMSpivey (talk) 02:27, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
This user is a Wikidraco scholasticus. You deserve this Wikidraco scholasticus award for taking on current AfD policy at Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion#Deletion_wars:_I_propose_a_novel_solution - and for having the patience to plough through AfD looking for articles worth saving. --Philcha (talk) 13:09, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
The Philippine Barnstar
... for your advice and assistance in the development of a Philippine-related article. -- Sultan-Commander (talk) 10:51, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
I award you this barnstar for your continued and tireless efforts to keep Misplaced Pages a welcome place for all editors... from your graciousness and guidence to newcomers who might feel "put off" when their own initial efforts end up at AfD... to your efforts to maintain the integrity of the project and its articles. The job is never-ending, and yet you continue... even when your efforts are sometimes considered as overzealous. Keep up the good fight, but with patience... as Don Quixote is not the only one to find honor in tilting at windmills. Schmidt, 20:46, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
A Lucky Penny
In the spirit of funding that is sweeping the country this penny is offered to Editor:Ikip for his incredible WikiWorld endeavors:----Buster7 (talk) 23:43, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
The Working Man's Barnstar
For all your hard work keeping an eye on Misplaced Pages talk:Notability (fiction)#Final adoption as a guideline and following up with the people who have commented there. Politizer /contribs 02:17, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages Motivation Award Misplaced Pages Motivation Award
have noticed the announcements at several pages and applaud your courtesy in sharing the news that such a discussion is going on, as thousands of affected editors would otherwise have no idea that the fates of so many articles was being determined or where to even look for such a discussion. Well done. I am surprised that others have not themselves been as proactive in seeking a wider consensus for such an important and far-reaching proposal. This thing could impact nearly three quarters of a million articles. Good job!!! Wow. Schmidt, 18:09, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Articles I have created
Using: http://toolserver.org/~sql/created.php Tool. Tool does not count templates.
  1. A_New_Life_(The_Outer_Limits)
  2. A_Test_of_the_News
  3. Template:AbUS --archive box for American terrorism page.
  4. Abdellatif_Laabi
  5. After_the_Empire:_The_Breakdown_of_the_American_Order
  6. American_civil_religion
  7. American_Expeditionary_Force_Siberia
  8. Army_Foreign_Intelligence_Assistance_Program
  9. Association_of_Inclusionist_Wikipedians
  10. Axis_of_Evil_(film)
  11. Balloon_effect
  12. Bell_Trade_Act
  13. Benevolent Assimilation
  14. Benevolent_Assimilation_(book)
  15. The Book of All Flesh as RWV.
  16. Calder v. Bull as RWV. Boring law school case.
  17. Case-Church_Amendment
  18. Charles_Henry_Dietrich
  19. CIA_and_Contras_cocaine_trafficking_in_the_US
  20. Clark_Amendment
  21. Commission_on_Industrial_Relations
  22. Commonwealth_v._Pullis
  23. Control_(2004_film)
  24. Costa_Rican_Civil_War
  25. DeLima v. Bidwell
  26. Democracy_in_Marxism
  27. Domestic_analogy
  28. Dreamland_(2007_film)
  29. Drew_Griffin CNN reporter
  30. Duck_Hook Nixon threat, called for the possibly-nuclear bombing of military and economic targets in and around Hanoi, the mining of Haiphong and other ports
  31. Edward_Atkinson
  32. Enemy_Nations
  33. Estate_of_Rodriquez_v._Drummond_Co.
  34. Fablehaven children's books.
  35. Firefight_at_Yechon:_Courage_and_Racism_in_the_Korean_War
  36. G._Robert_Blakey
  37. Green_report
  38. Guenter_Lewy
  39. Heroism Research Group
  40. Hitler's_Willing_Executioners
  41. Hughes-Ryan_Act
  42. Human_rights_in_Colombia
  43. Identical_Strangers...twins were given up by their mentally ill mother and separated as infants...met for the first time in 2004 at the age of 35.
  44. Intelligence_Oversight_Act
  45. International_Journal_of_Political_Economy, socialist perspective acedemic economic journal.
  46. Is the Holocaust Unique?
  47. Jacob_H._Smith
  48. Joseph_Lafayette_Rawlins
  49. Julian_Codman
  50. Kerry_Committee_report
  51. Kill_the_Messenger
  52. Kill_the_Messenger_(film)
  53. Klaus_Mehnert
  54. La_Violencia
  55. Leahy_Law
  56. Little_Eichmanns
  57. Lodge_Committee
  58. Looking_for_Love_(film) a 1964 romantic musical-comedy movie
  59. Michel_Garder
  60. My_Country,_My_Country
  61. Onyx_Project
  62. Operation_WASHTUB
  63. Operation_Whitecoat
  64. PCCC
  65. Plan_Cobra
  66. Power_Play_(1978_film)
  67. Picard v. Barry Pontiac-Buick, Inc. 1995 Rhode Island Supreme Court case often cited in tort law text books to explain the legal concept of battery.
  68. Predictions_of_Soviet_collapse
  69. Problems_of_Communism_(journal)
  70. Psychological_Operations_in_Guerrilla_Warfare
  71. San_Francisco_Call
  72. Senate_Document
  73. Simon_Sisters
  74. Sixto_Lopez
  75. Talk:American terrorism/Past disagreements
  76. Template:AmericanEmpire
  77. Template:Colombia conflict
  78. Template:Soatitles
  79. Template:Stay focused as RWV. This talk page is not a web blog.
  80. Template:U.S. Congressional opposition to war
  81. The_Saint_Patrick's_Day_Four
  82. Sturges_v._Crowninshield as RWV, dealt with the constitutionality of New York creating bankruptcy laws and retroactively applying those laws.
  83. Theodore_Schroeder
  84. They_Came_Back
  85. Thomas_MacDonald_Patterson
  86. Thousand_Days_War
  87. Timeline_of_labor_issues_and_events
  88. Timeline_of_Philippine-American_War
  89. Tom_Engelhardt the creator of the Nation Institute's tomdispatch.com, a liberal web blog.
  90. Total_Denial a 2006 documentary film about fifteen Burmese villagers going up against oil giants UNOCAL and TOTAL as they build the Yadana Pipeline.
  91. Trade_unions_in_the_United_Kingdom
  92. TV-6_(Russia)
  93. TVS_(Russia)
  94. U.S._Army_and_CIA_interrogation_manuals
  95. Union of Banana Exporting Countries as RWV. Attempt to create OPEC like cartel for bananas.
  96. United_States_Senate_Committee_on_the_Philippines
  97. United_States_v._Stanley the United States Supreme Court found that a serviceman could not file a tort action against the federal government, even though the government secretly administered doses of LSD to the serviceman as part of an experimental program, because his injuries were found by the lower court to be service-related.
  98. War_Feels_Like_War
  99. War_referendum a type of referendum in which citizens decide whether a nation should go to war.
  100. William_Lindsay_Scruggs (1836 - 1912) a scholar of South American foreign policy and U.S. ambassador to Colombia and Venezuela.
  101. The Wrecking Crew: How Conservatives Rule
...and here's an honorary enigma rotor for ferreting out a good solution. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:47, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Travb! I now give you a WikiCookie from the Misplaced Pages cookie jar! for your initiative to develop and create a new very useful template for a Colombia related article! great job! User:F3rn4nd0 06:47, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
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The Original Barnstar
For keeping both your integrity and a cool head in the most trying of circumstances. Ireneshusband 05:19, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Updated DYK query On 27 February, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ludlow Amendment, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.
The Guidance Barnstar
Ikip, you have helped me in many ways over the past few weeks, thank you once again for your assistance. Marcusmax(speak) 23:00, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Awarded to Ikip for volunteering to cleanse the Augean stables. —S Marshall /Cont 21:17, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
For your elegant and clear solution to some vexing situations I hereby award you this shiny barnstar you can play catch with or trade for superpowers or even put on a display shelf for all to behold and admire. The Article Rescue Squadron is a band of troupers who work in stressful environments to save content worth keeping and your help is very much appreciated. -- Banjeboi 11:52, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
This is an excellent idea for Foreign relations of Argentina by country to deal with the minor bilateral relationships, just 1 suggestion for improvement can we sort by continent/region? LibStar (talk) 09:19, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thank you very much for your successful efforts in strengthening the content and character of Misplaced Pages. Your work is greatly appreciated. Ecoleetage (talk) 19:15, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
I hearby award this barnstar to Ikip due to his heroic campaigning for the noble cause of including valuable and interesting articles in the peoples encyclopaedia. FeydHuxtable (talk) 16:09, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thankyou for being so nice to me! ScythreContribs 15:52, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
I hereby award this Barnstar to Ikip for his excellent idea to reduce conflict by pre-empting potentially heated AfD debates with a suggestion that articles be userfied, so new users can still work to improve their work, while deletionists are happy as problem articles are removed from mainspace. Everyone's a winner! FeydHuxtable (talk) 10:42, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

andyzweb (talk) haz givn u Cheezburgr! Cheezburgrs promot WikiLovez and hoapfuly thiz one haz made yore day bettr. Spreadd teh WikiLovez by givin sumone else Cheezburgr, whethr it be sumeone youz hav had disagreementz with in teh past or a gud frend. Hapy munchins!

Spredd teh goudnesz of Cheezburgerz to all lolcat buddiez by addin {{subst:Cheezburgr}} to their talk paj with friendly messuj to all.

The Original Barnstar
For cutting process, getting crap out of mainspace and helping newbies not to feel bitten all at the same time, a singular achievement. Guy (Help!) 20:42, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
This user played a significant role in helping Eddie Kilroy graduate from incubation.
This user played a significant role in helping Downtown Emergency Service Center graduate from incubation.

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This project does not exist to help editors grow a thicker skin. Our mission is to build an encyclopedia, not establish limits for low-level abuse that we think our volunteer editors should be willing to suffer. If we drive away more people than we attract, then it's a genuine loss to the project and we should fix it rather than label those who would prefer to work in a civil environment as "thin skinned." -- User:Cool Hand Luke

The problem is that our enforcement of civility and NPA has historically been quite selective. If you're unpopular or unpowerful and criticizing somebody popular or powerful, you are likely to be blocked. The other way around, not so much. We ought to come up with objective standards and stick to them. -- User:Jehochman

A reliable measure of prejudice is how many mistakes a person gets forgiven. --Durova

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RfC headcount

Saw your table, and posted a comment on statistics for this sort of polling. Just wanted to see if you had any thoughts. (Like I say, I think in this case, the point I raise is moot, but it might matter in other polls, like Phase I). -- Bfigura 05:20, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I also responded somewhere in the RfC to a comment you made about one of my !votes, but I forget exactly where. Best, -- Bfigura 05:21, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

UBLP flags

aerica beats conch republic. hope you don't mind my assigning flags to people, thought you would like the presidential one.

i was kinda responding to WTmitchell's not wanting to use unique flags per the WikiCup, you can pick any image to stand in for you, Vexillology, it is prettier than a list of names. Pohick2 (talk) 14:30, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

DASHBot

Re above: what information do you need for the bot to run? Answer on my talk page (unusually for me...). Thanks --Jubilee♫clipman 19:34, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Answering self but need verification: I just add the project to the list by the looks of it (using the template provided if we need to specify the subpage or widen the seach terms). Correct? Answer here since the info may well help others!  ;) --Jubilee♫clipman 23:50, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Tim, who created the bot, still needs final approval. I would suggest asking him for final approval. Okip 12:14, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Will do --Jubilee♫clipman 15:32, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

The National Federation of Coffee Growers of Colombia

Hi Okip, I just noticed that the article on the National Federation of Coffee Growers of Colombia was modified on February 20, 2010, at 16:00 by an editor VickyMa, deleting all my contributions with total disregard and without any comment, justification or reason; in my opinion, with total contempt. What should I do here to have my contributions inserted back into the article? I don’t want to do so just on my own initiative in order to avoid any argument or confrontation. Should I ask for comment RFC? Or what do you suggest I do? Please advice. Thanks,--Grancafé (talk) 18:55, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello, Okip. You have new messages at Grancafé's talk page.
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BLP RfC

Thanks for the heads-up on the closing proposals -- Boing! said Zebedee 04:38, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

do you really think this is a jimbo whales problem? ain't he just going along with the Weltanschauung: i.e. it's not the individual, but the movement. ain't it the Peter Principle, they can't pull off Götterdämmerung, so the insurgents will make lemonade of the lemons. Pohick2 (talk) 00:47, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Little Eichmanns

I have nominated Little Eichmanns, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Little Eichmanns. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Prezbo (talk) 01:56, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Copied from user talk:Ikip (if you dont want me to keep doing this, let me know and I'll stop ... Im doing it for lots of other inactive/name0changed users too, not just you) —Soap— 01:59, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks!

Thanks very much for taking the time to recognize the good faith efforts of your fellow editors. That's very kind of you and help improve the editing environment by promoting collegiality and goodwill. Kudos. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Userrights

Hey, just wanted to let you know I removed the flags from your Ikip account. Hope you don't mind. –Juliancolton |  21:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

BLP debate

Hi Okip! If there is any consensus at at all, it is that the entire discussion has become a tangled confusion, and as a result both proponents and opponents of the issues under discussion are abandoning ship. None of us want this. It is still not clear which way consensus will fall and your contributions to the discussion are invaluable. However, In an attempt to keep the policy discussion on an even track, some users have decided to start the ball rolling for clarity by creating a special workshop pages. The first of these is for the technical development of a template at WT:BLP PROD TPL in case policy is decided for it . The taskforce pages are designed keep irrelevant stuff off the policy discussion and talk page, and help a few of us to move this whole debate towards a decision of some kind or another. The pages will be linked in a way that watchers will still find their way to them. This move is not intended to influence any policy whatsoever; It is to keep the discussion pages focussed on the separate issues. Cheers. --Kudpung (talk) 23:17, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

BLP sticky PROD

Hi Okip!. Every attempt to rescue a Misplaced Pages article is a noble gesture. However, there may be occasions when, with the best will in the world, it is just not possible to accord even a minimum of notability to an article or stub, or find a proper source for it. Most regrettably, even the most dedicated inclusionists will have to concede that the article may have to go if the creator or major contributors cannot justify their work.
For new and recent unsourced BLPs, some users are now working at WT:BLP PROD TPL on the development of templates that are designed to encourage contributors to source new BLPs, without scaring away the newbies who might not be aware of the rules. This template is certainly not another a licence to kill for the deletionists, in fact the very idea of it is to ensure that you are not fighting a losing battle. It would be great if you could look in at the prgogress and maybe leave a word of encouragement. The workshop page is essentially a template development taskforce, and is not a place to engage in a hefty debate on incusion/deletion policy. See you at WT:BLP PROD TPL?--Kudpung (talk) 13:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I would like to second this sentiment. I honestly think that this initiative could improve the encyclopedia, and that it will likely not result in many unwarranted deletions. (Obviously, I could change my mind once it is actually implemented.) I think this is a good way to shift a bit of work back to contributors who know where the sources are, rather than other random contributors who will have to invest significant time to find them. I think a likely result from this initiative is that many or most of the tagged articles will be fixed by the creators within the time allotted, and that the worthy articles of the remainder will be fixed by other interested editors (say, from WP:ARS). I think it could be a good opportunity to educate new contributors about sourcing. Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:57, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
We are talking about compromise. But do my comments show that we should have faith in the Misplaced Pages compromise process, that editors are really interested in fostering editor retention? See also my comments about compromise, after Wordsmith retracted portions of the BLP RFC. Okip 19:06, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
I think that Wordsmith's change was correct - i don't see any consensus one way or the other for WP:BEFORE, because it wasn't actually discussed hardly at all. (Actually, this was unfortunate, because it will be hard to get consensus either way now, with people losing interest after this protracted discussion.) I think extremists on both sides are being a little bit ridiculous, with Septri... totally refusing to accept the legitimacy of the reasonable close, and deletionists threatening further out-of-process deletions. I think a lot of this partisanship was caused by the original ridiculous arbcom blessing of Scott Mac... and his gang, which put people at war and made people angry rather than thoughtful about this issue. (People feel powerless when one side with more power threatens to do what they want regardless of others' views.) Anyways, I think now there could be a good outcome from this whole mess. I'm cautiously optimistic, anyways. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
See also Wordsmith's new comments about the close, which seem thoughtful and fair. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:17, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Wordsmith is a decent admin, who I would strongly support for arbitrator.
Without going through the entire sordid BLP Phase II history here again, I accept Wordsmith's conclusions as a pragmatic administrator who by the very nature of his position is supposed to help defuse immediate controversy, in the faith that the community will eventually defuse the long term costs of such detrimental decisions. I have no such faith.
"No man can struggle with advantage against the spirit of his age and country, and however powerful a man may be, it is hard for him to make his contemporaries share feelings and ideas which run counter to the general run of their hopes and desires." --Alexis de Tocqueville
People who stand up to the establishment always get silenced and sidetracked in a myriad of ways. By "caving", Wordsmith is taking the inevitable, only rational, least disruptive path. I don't blame Wordsmith for being pragmatic, he is only working within the narrow confines we are all forced to work in. Okip 19:22, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Dear Okip, things have moved a very long way in the last 6 weeks, and I doubt if either of us could have predicted this outcome. The deletionists who were arguing that old unsourced BLPs were the number one problem are frankly routed to the point where the main debate is now over whether we change to my position of not allowing the creation of new unsourced BLPs. Please don't think of this as a railroad from on high, rather think of this as a triangle where our two positions which once seemed almost equally unacceptable to the deletionists are now the focus of disagreement. I can see the temptation you must feel to argue that 35 should be a blocking veto, but I would urge you to consider a compromise - if only because if this succeeds it is much more likely to settle the issue for the foreseeable future whilst a solution that doesn't work almost guarantees a fresh proposal in a few months time. I think you are in a position to seek concessions, such as making the sticky prod linger longer than 7 days, or not allowing it to be applied until an article is an hour old, or in no blocking of the creators of unsourced BLPs. ϢereSpielChequers 20:08, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Reason is the servant of the emotions; nor would I deny that, but you are arguing that reason is a useless servant. As WereSpiel argues just above, you have done much, and I would like to see what more can be done. If we can render this harmless, the wave of hysteria will pass, and it will go the way of several other enthusiasms which roiled Misplaced Pages. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:33, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Suggestions for the design of the PROD template and its functions are welcomed on WT:BLP PROD TPL where they will have more exposure, and where the template task force can experiment with the ideas.--Kudpung (talk) 23:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

RE: "I can see the temptation you must feel to argue that 35 should be a blocking veto"

no, i will not, don't worry. Consensus is clear on balloonman's section one. Kind of burned out on this, as you may have noticed with my decreased activity the past few days. I will let others bicker.

Regardless Kudpung, thank you for your continued invitations.

Okip 04:14, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Think strategically.

I know you disagreed rather strongly with my CSD proposal. Consider, now, this result. Had the proposal never been made, that result would not have been possible. Jclemens (talk) 22:56, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I was more surprised and disappointed, your proposal only prepared me for many more disappointments though.
I am glad you took the time to comment here, and that you commented in the Arbcom.
As I write this, I am in the living room with no chair, typing on my knees, after just hooking up the computer on a temporary table, surrounded by boxes. We are closing on our house hopefully tomorrow or Tuesday, so I am packing and have no time to read your comments at length. I will though, thank you for your dedication. Okip 00:04, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
The best of luck with your house move. - Pointillist (talk) 00:17, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Well that was nice, thank you point :) I appreciate it. Okip 03:52, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
I hope your move goes well. A stressful, but exciting time! SilkTork * 09:05, 8 March 2010 (UTC)


Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Corruption in Ghana

Thank you for your well thought out explanation, it makes me feel bad about what I wrote originally, therefore I struck the comments. Okip 19:17, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

That's cool. Don't feel bad, your intentions were good, and your solution was elegant. SilkTork * 09:05, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thank you for stubifying Corruption_in_Ghana and closing the AFD keep for now. Please let me know if there is any efforts to revert unreferenced material back, and I will actively help you revert it.

Thank you. I always appreciate a star. I think we should support and thank each other more often - it creates a positive, warm atmosphere that aids in the building of Misplaced Pages. SilkTork * 09:05, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

March 2010

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User talk:Jimbo Wales/poll

Just saw this speedy little poll on how "we" feel about it. I dont know how you find time to sift through all this discussion crap and be on top of developments. I just want to say that if you have the time, energy etc, etc, I would appreciate a ping on my talk page in such cases. Power.corrupts (talk) 01:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

What do you think?

Elaine Parent has been languishing for years with no sources. Someone tagged it as WP:CSD#G10. I declined the speedy, stubbed it and right of the bat found a source. Think you good have a go at it? Dlohcierekim 04:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I finally did it.

I got around to coding that bot you wanted (Bots/Requests_for_approval/DASHBot_3.14) and ran it tonight. It is independent of beta-command's tool. Anyways, I'm leaving the task of advertising it up to you, if you don't mind.

Tim1357 (talk) 00:47, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

And it looks fantastic. Thanks a lot to both of you for getting this up and running. Now off to populate it with more projects (and to try to make it mandatory for all projects!) Well done! The-Pope (talk) 11:42, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Did the Earth move for you too?

Hey Okip, I thought this blogpost I did might interest you. Cheers--Milowent (talk) 20:08, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the barnstar Okip :). BTW, regarding the DASHBot template, the change oumade in the sandbox will probably break it (because to get the category, the first a parameter will be " articles", which means that the listing page will be "Misplaced Pages: articles/UnreferencedBlps". You don't really want the "articles" bit in the list page :). - Kingpin (talk) 13:12, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

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/Unreferenced BLPs

Moved question to User_talk:DASHBot/Wikiprojects#How_does_it_work.3F. Okip 01:09, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

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Request for a list

Hey Okip. I saw your request at WP:BOTREQ so I went ahead and made a list that regenerates every day. The items in the list have over 5 external links (including those embedded in templates). I put a cap on the list (300) but I can make a full one if needed. Good luck. Tim1357 (talk) 02:31, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

P.S. If you need me to do anything for User:DASHBot/Wikiprojects, please let me know. I haven't really kept up with the conversation on the talk page. Thanks for your awesome help! Tim1357 (talk) 02:31, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
no need to thank me, I need to thank you in spades! Okip 02:32, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks

I appreciate the warm welcome :)- fixing up references and copy editing is pretty much what I've been doing/will be doing. Thanks again :D. Omirocksthisworld(Drop a line) 09:29, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

BLP bot

Sorry, I appreciate your effort, but I'm getting tired of the whole BLP sourcing saga. Have you put it on the Village Pump? Maurreen (talk) 15:24, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Dead user equals dead bot

Hi Okip. While I commend your recent efforts at determining if there are 609 or 622 projects using Cleanup listings, the real issue is that WolterBot has not operated for at least 3 months. Don't you think? --AlainR345 17:25, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

It only updates whenever a new database dump is available. It does not work from the live version of the database. --Tothwolf (talk) 17:30, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

BLP and wikiprojects expanding their role

Moved to User_talk:DASHBot/Wikiprojects#BLP_and_wikiprojects_expanding_their_role Okip 01:55, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

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Talkback

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Unreferenced BLP That Was Deleted

I am interested in moving an unreferenced BLP article that was deleted, Imperative Reaction, that was covered by WP:INDUSTRIAL to an incubation page. It was deleted on the grounds that it lacked citations. I don't know if I will need to apply to have that article fetched or if you'll take that as part of the process. I'm fine with whatever is needed to be done. Thanks. Xe7al (talk) 07:31, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I'll be sure to tell the admin to create a special page for this. Xe7al (talk) 03:03, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

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GregJackP (talk) 11:04, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

The talkback you left doesn't link to anything. Where is the new message and why not use your talk page? That's where I started talking and where I had watchlisted, to move the talk to a bot page is a bit strange, it's not like the bot could reply is it. Regards, SunCreator 13:23, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

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