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Statement of the dispute
Contrary to policy and guidelines, Ash has improperly added citations which reference facts that are not present in the sources to multiple articles, including at least one BLP.
Desired outcome
The desired outcome of this RFC/U is a voluntary agreement by Ash to cease editing BLPs (biographies of living people), which require "particular care" in the sourcing and verification of facts as per WP:BLP. Further investigation into the extent of the misuse of citations may also be warranted.
Description
In a recent ANI thread (Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive604#Fraudulent referencing), Ash's use of a particular gay porn website as a reference was called into question. In the course of that ANI discussion, I requested that Ash respond to a BLPN discussion from December 2009 in which I had explicitly identified misuse of sources. After multiple requests (, , , , , & ), Ash did so, but denied any wrongdoing.
Believing that the subject matter (gay pornography performers) and sources (including gay pornography sites) were discouraging other editors from reviewing the evidence, I went through the articles recently created by Ash to find two that were not related to gay pornography (Pleasuredrome & Chariots Shoreditch). These articles had been edited almost exclusively by Ash, so that Ash was only sourcing their own additions. I found several instances of citations being added to support facts that were not present in the sources. I provided diffs and links to the original sources in a new section of the aforementioned AfD discussion. Despite the agreement of four other editors expressing concern about the citations (, , , & ), Ash continued to deny any wrongdoing or take responsibility for their actions. It is not clear to me why this wasn't swiftly dealt with at ANI.
Evidence of disputed behavior
Diffs and links to original sources have been provided in the original discussions at BLPN and ANI. For brevity, and to see the complete discussions, those links are below, as well as links to talk pages wherein Ash explained their actions:
- December 2009 BLPN discussion of Vladimir Correa
- Ash's March 2010 response in ANI thread about fraudulent referencing
- ANI discussion of Pleasuredrome and Chariots Shoreditch
- comments Ash's response on Talk:Pleasuredrome
- comments on Talk:Chariots Shoreditch
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Evidence of trying to resolve the dispute
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- The initial comments about the sources used in Vladimir Correa came in the AfD in comments ( & ) made by User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz.
- The AfD's closing admin started this discussion on WP:BLPN to continue discussion of sourcing. User:Delicious carbuncle identified several specific issues related to the sourcing of this BLP.
Evidence of failing to resolve the dispute
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- Ash's comment at the Vladimir Correa AfD that sourcing issues should be addressed on the article's talk page suggests that they are uninterested in dealing with sourcing concerns.
- Rather than fixing the citations pointed out in the BLPN discussion, Ash resorts to ad hominem attacks ( & ).
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