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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on May 6

Michael C. Moynihan

5x expanded by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 19:15, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Danny Kushlick

Created by Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 18:32, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


Irma Jackson

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 17:32, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Turman (book)

Created by Remember (talk). Self nom at 16:48, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

As an alternative hook, could try...that David McCullough worked on the pulitzer prize winning biography Truman for ten years? Remember (talk) 16:51, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Albert B. Wohlsen, Jr.

5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 16:05, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Sarcosphaera

A roughly spherical cup fungus growing in the ground with the top opened up up to reveal pink-violet flesh on the inside

5x expanded by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 15:18, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


Thomsons Lake

Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 14:11, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Mount Tabor Methodist Episcopal Church (West Liberty, Ohio)

A red brick church building, highlighted against a blue sky and seen from an old graveyard

5x expanded by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 13:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


German destroyer Z44

  • ... that the German destroyer Z44 was badly damaged in an air raid and had to be later scrapped before she was even commissioned into the Kriegsmarine?

Created by White Shadows (talk). Nominated by White Shadows (talk) at 10:36, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Length, date, and hook check out; however, all of the sources are from what appear to be self-published websites. I'm hesitant to say that there are any reliable sources on this article. Nyttend (talk) 15:08, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
  • The Design section for this article, and for German destroyer Z35 and German destroyer Z43 (also up for DYK nomination below) are all the same, even down to the misspelling of "meant" in the first line. I'm not sure a DYK can be claimed for a number of different articles all using the same text, even if the (very short) lead section of each article is tailored to the ship? In addition, I would say that this design section is relevant to the class of ship and should be captured in an article for the ship class, rather than being repeated in every single individual ship article. Nick Ottery (talk) 15:46, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Molecular solid

  • Comment: The hook is elaborated in section "Structure and composition" on example of phosphorus. Ref.3,4 say that white P is molecular solid and red is covalent one; ref.7 says how they can be interconverted. There are plenty of other available refs for this basic fact, but they are either off-line or/and not saying all words in one phrase.

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 09:31, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


Harry Stiteler

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 03:22, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Andrei Alexandrovich Popov

Black and white head and shoulders photograph portrait of a man in a black jacket and tie, with epaulettes and braid

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 00:46, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

comment. The article omits Popov's less bizarre designs (he also supervised construction of the cruiser fleet, part of The Great Game). Curiously, the the real cause for building the ugly sisters was gone before they were laid down but they still proceeded with building - Russian bureaucracy works in mysterious ways. NVO (talk) 07:39, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 5

A white house with black shutters on its rounded windows. There is a white van parked in a driveway to its right, and a banner with "ny" in white on a red-and-blue background
Lynfeld main house, north elevation

Lynfeld

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 16:52, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Crispin Black

RFA Sir Galahad in May, 1982

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Nominated by Moonraker2 (talk) at 23:45, 5 May 2010 (UTC)


HMS Tynedale (L96)

Created by LGF1992UK (talk). Nominated by LGF1992UK (talk) at 23:12, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Michael Fingleton

Created by GainLine (talk). Nominated by GainLine (talk) at 21:25, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Sir Henry Firebrace

Created by Rodhullandemu (talk). Self nom at 21:01, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Note: one of the sources requires login or a UK library card; if WP:AGF fails on this, I will gladly provide the number of my own library card (via email) for verification. Rodhullandemu 21:03, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Date and length check out, hook is well described and explained in article, and offline sources are accepted in good faith. To Rodhullandemu - one good way of dealing with offline sources is to quote the relevant sentences from them in the citation using the |quote= field; that way other editors can immediately see the original text. - DustFormsWords (talk) 04:52, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Ludlow Griscom Award

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 20:44, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Deandra Dottin

5x expanded by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 19:39, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

List of commanding officers of the USS Oklahoma (BB 37)

Created by Buggie111 (talk). Nominated by Buggie111 (talk) at 19:16, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Article uses bare URLs in its references, requires significant copy editing, and (most troubling) the timeline in the article does not match the hook fact. Setting aside that the text said "forty minutes" until I changed it to say "thirty-six minutes" to match the times specified, the following sentence refutes that timeline. If this ("Eight minutes after the attack started at 7:55 AM Kenworthy gave the command to abandon ship, doing so himself a minute later.") is true then he abandoned ship at 8:04am, not 8:06am, and the command was just 34 minutes. However, now I'm curious what the cited book says and would like to review the source rather than have this quietly corrected and passed along to the front page. - Dravecky (talk) 23:27, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
  • If you mean copyediting in terms of double captialization (i.e.: MAy,), than I'm fine. I had added the cpasizing time, not the time that the call was passed. Sorry. And I'll fix the bare refs. Buggie111 (talk) 00:48, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
  • I mean copyediting like repeatedly correcting "Oklkahoma", "beofre", "preperation", "excersies" plus miscapitalizations as "oklahoma", "bristol", and so many more. Also, this is about a US Navy vessel and thus should use US spelling ("defense" instead of "defence", for example). I've just spent a few minutes scrubbing out the more egregious spelling and other errors but I'm not sure what "eogth Naval Governor" should really be nor have I fixed the grammar. I'm not pushing for FA-quality prose here, but certain minimum standards must apply. Also, the article is not in any categories. As I'm unsure what categories would apply to this article, I've tagged it {{uncat}} which I'm sure you can easily remedy.- Dravecky (talk) 03:07, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Also, please take a look at WP:MOSSHIP for how to format the names of naval vessels. - Dravecky (talk) 03:10, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Gia Lam Airport

5x expanded by Dragfyre (talk). Self nom at 18:24, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Hmm, there might be an image available, but I don't know how to use TerraServer offhand -- never heard of it. If it's a free source, I'm sure I could look through and see if there is a good aerial shot, as long as someone points me towards uploading instructions (i.e. the correct license to use) too. --dragfyre (talk 19:32, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Hmmm, yeah, doesn't look like it's got coverage outside of the US. Too bad, though, as that would certainly be a boon to the article. I'll keep my eye open to see if I can find anything similar... Thanks! --dragfyre (talk 04:35, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

List of Lincoln City F.C. seasons

  • Comment: Expansion and reformat of existing list which had tables but no prose.

5x expanded by Struway2 (talk). Self nom at 15:47, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

D. Iacobescu

Created by Dahn (talk). Nominated by Dahn (talk) at 15:43, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Russell Docker

Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 13:39, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Ricardo Blas, Jr.

5x expanded by Canadian Paul (talk). Self nom at 06:39, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

William Wingfield (MP)

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 06:31, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

German destroyer Z43

Created by Buggie111 (talk). Nominated by Buggie111 (talk) at 03:23, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

German destroyer Z35, German destroyer Z36

Created by Buggie111 (talk). Nominated by Buggie111 (talk) at 03:08, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Comment Should be splited. Tbhotch 03:12, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
? Buggie111 (talk) 03:21, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
I though there were a rule which stated "Only one article per hook", sorry. Tbhotch 03:25, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Wikiships guidelines specifically state that All ship articles and ship class articles should use an infobox to summarize characteristics and other information so I think infoboxes should be added before the articles are promoted. Gatoclass (talk) 07:44, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 4

Cu Lao Cham Marine Park and Cham Islands

Cham Islands
Cham Islands

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 12:47, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Antony Grey

  • ... that Antony Grey, who died at the end of April, became Stonewall Hero of the Year in 2007, to mark the 40th anniversary of the partial decriminalisation of homosexuality in the UK in which he was instrumental?

Created by Zefrog (talk). Self nom at 11:19, 5 May 2010

JCall

Created by Lihaas (talk). Self nom at 09:04, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Lectionary 232

  • ... that Lectionary 232, manuscript of the New Testament, was variously dated in the past?

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 01:12, 5 May 2010 (UTC)


Michael Moutoussis, Aristeidis Moraitinis (aviator)

Farman MF.7 aircraft after perfoming the first naval air operation in history, February 5, 1913.

Created by Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 21:45, 4 May 2010 (UTC)


Transandinomys bolivaris

5x expanded by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 21:29, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Junior Apprentice

Created by User:KingOfTheMedia (talk). Self nom at 20:57, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Guillaume Beneman

Created by Wetman (talk). Nominated by Wetman (talk) at 20:15, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

The what Nyttend seeks is called an antecedent: here the antecedent class is "prominent late 18th-century Parisian ébénistes".
In shuffling and rearranging the standard-format citations to form a bibliography for this brief article, should one specify that for the J. Paul Getty Museum Journal the publisher is the J. Paul Getty Museum?--Wetman (talk) 18:30, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Metropolitan Block (Lima, Ohio)

A five-storey brick building with a turret, with a bright blue sky in the background

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 16:24, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

  • The "best preserved" part doesn't seem to be clearly referenced, and the attribution of the picture is unclear, since there's no user by the name credited. Lovely building though. - The Bushranger (talk) 14:48, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
  • See User talk:Mike224jb: he never had a userpage, but he has a talk page. If this is a problem, you can use my own image: File:Metropolitan Block in Lima southern and western sides.jpg. I'm unclear about the problem with the "best preserved" — the hook is based on the final sentence of the first paragraph of the "Related buildings" section, which is clearly referenced to the fourth sentence of paragraph C of page 5 of citation 3: "The only remaining or unaltered of these elaborate structures is the Metropolitan Block, 1889, now on the National Register", and the context of the paragraph is buildings erected during the oil boom. Do you see "only remaining or unaltered" as not being equivalent to "best preserved", or am I misunderstanding you? Nyttend (talk) 18:05, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Actually I'd missed that particular phrase. Both it and the picture, now that I've actually found the user in question (odd, I'd have sworn earlier it said no such user existed, maybe I made a typo?) are A-OK. Nice work! - The Bushranger (talk) 18:19, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Sally Wister

  • … that although Sally Wister's Journal was written as a series of letters in 1777–78, the addressee of the letters did not receive them until 1830?

Created by Piledhigheranddeeper (talk). Self nom at 16:18, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Amanita exitialis

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 15:52, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Break The Barrier

Created by 72.74.209.36 (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 14:49, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Andy Graver

5x expanded by Struway2 (talk). Self nom at 09:39, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Betty King

Created by Mkativerata (talk). Nominated by Hack (talk) at 06:59, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

ALT:... that Australian judge Betty King once claimed to have had her Misplaced Pages biography deleted? (suggested by Mkativerata) Hack (talk) 07:48, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

  • (ALT1) Date length and hook are good to go. Sadly, though, the sources don't support ALT2, instead referring to "a Misplaced Pages posting in her name" (which could be a fake username) rather than "her Misplaced Pages biography". - DustFormsWords (talk) 07:26, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Not sure what happened there, did we both post at the same time? Anyhow, there is no alt2 so I'm not sure what dfw is referring to, but my verification of the original hook stands. Gatoclass (talk) 07:32, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Neely-Sieber House

Frontal view of an orange brick house with a large veranda

  • Comment: For the alt and rollover texts, I've said that the color of the house is orange. I'm partially colorblind, so I'm not sure if it's orange; if it's not, would you please fix this text? Nyttend (talk) 02:49, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 02:49, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

I'd call that orange, yep. かんぱい! Scapler (talk) 02:58, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 3

MM Television

Created by Keranov (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 15:39, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Occupation and annexation of the Baltic states by the Soviet Union (1940)

Soviet military of 1940 presenting the Estonian state with invasion routes.

Created by Peltimikko (talk). Self nom at 09:53, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


Crippled Summer

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 03:12, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

  • I have tweaked the hook to change "many" (not supported by article text) to "several". With that change, date, length and hook check out and is good to go. - DustFormsWords (talk) 10:25, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Bloomvale Historic District

A creek with some waterfalls over an old dam in the distance on a clear autumn day. There is a house on the right obscured by the trees

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 21:41, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

  • I've removed "in three different centuries" from the first hook, since over 200 years is (by default) in three different centuries. Nyttend (talk) 03:02, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

1970 New Guinea earthquake

Created by Ceranthor (talk). Nominated by Ceranthor (talk) at 21:18, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Let's Live for Today (song)

Created by Kohoutek1138 (talk). Self nom at 14:16, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Lectionary 226

Description of the image

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 01:12, 5 May 2010 (UTC)



Lectionary 228

Description of the image

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 01:12, 5 May 2010 (UTC)



Russian cruiser Gromoboi

Stern of a dark-gray warship in harbor with several small boats around it. The ship has several very prominent holes in it and several crewmen are standing on a platform rigged for repairs

  • ... that the crew of the Russian armored cruiser Gromoboi suffered more heavily during the Battle off Ulsan in 1904 than that of the Rossia because their captain ordered his light gun crews to remain at their guns even when they were out of range?

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 14:48, 4 May 2010 (UTC)


Bryan Pedersen

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:30, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Paula Bauersmith

Created by Cryptic C62 (talk). Self nom at 00:53, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Date and length are fine. However, the hook is sourced to the Internet Broadway Database, which there is not consensus for as a reliable source. Surely if the woman's notable you can source her stage work to contemporary reviews or to biographies? Especially for Broadway productions as notable as these? - DustFormsWords (talk) 07:48, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
  • I added a citation to Who's Who, which confirms that she played Martha Webster in the 1936 production of Bury the Dead at the Ethel Barrymore Theatre and Mrs Sweeney in the 1961 production of Sail Away at the Broadhurst Theatre. There's no mention of Breakfast at Tiffany's, probably because it never officially opened, but this site confirms that she was in the original Broadway cast. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 16:55, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Dance in the Dark

  • ... that Lady Gaga's song "Dance in the Dark" is about a girl who likes to have sex with the lights off because she is embarrassed about her body?

Created by Legolas2186 (talk). Nominated by Frcm1988 (talk) at 00:31, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Orchid hunters

Wild orchids and Komodo Dragon at the Komodo Island

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 23:47, 3 May 2010 (UTC)


Karlsruhe Pyramid

  • ... that the pyramid in the centre of Karlsruhe, Germany, was erected over the vault of the city's founder?

Created by Hans Adler (talk). Self nom at 23:36, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Thanks. The pyramid has attracted the interest of some mystics and lunatics, but unfortunately I couldn't find a discussion of this in a reliable source. Hans Adler 18:52, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Breakin' Dishes

Created by User:KingOfTheMedia (talk). Self nom at 22:53, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Pedro Romero de Terreros

  • ... that as a wedding present, Pedro Romero de Terreros, the first Count of Regla, gave his bride two dresses covered with diamonds?

Created by Karanacs (talk). Nominated by Karanacs (talk) at 21:53, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Hugh T. Rinehart House

Created by Nyttend (talk). Nominated by Morenooso (talk) at 21:41, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Wild's Mill Complex

Created by Juliancolton (talk). Nominated by Juliancolton (talk) at 20:35, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Anton Santori

  • ... that Anton Santori's play Emira is considered to be the first original Albanian drama ever written?

Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Self nom at 14:40, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Theatricality

5x expanded by Frickative (talk). Self nom at 13:49, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Jack L. Rives

Created by Madcoverboy (talk). Nominated by Madcoverboy (talk) at 06:53, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

  • I've changed "serve in the grade" to "hold the rank", because "ranks" are for commissioned officers and "grades" are for enlisted men. Nyttend (talk) 14:13, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Sellas Tetteh

Created by GiantSnowman (talk). Nominated by GiantSnowman (talk) at 06:20, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Radiole

Spirographis sp.

Created by DiverDave (talk). Self nom at 04:23, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

The ALT1 hook is shorter (146 versus 173 characters) than the original hook and has fewer distractions from the central topic. DiverDave (talk) 05:15, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Length and date okay, hook is sourced (perhaps even over-sourced), image is PD. Nice work. I prefer ALT1 for its focus and ease of reading. Can I suggest the CC-BY-SA picture below? There's no shortage of choice, but I think this one is both bright and clear. --Avenue (talk) 01:59, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Spirobranchus giganteus

Thank you for your favorable review, Avenue. I also prefer the ALT1 hook, and I like your suggesed photo better. The more striking colors of the radioles of Spirobranchus giganteus will pique the reader's interest better than the original photo. I will happily substitute the photo if you wish, and if nobody else objects. DiverDave (talk) 12:20, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
You're welcome. I imagine the person adding this to a queue can probably figure out what image we'd like now, but if you want to make it clearer for them, go ahead. --Avenue (talk) 15:52, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Brazilian battleship Riachuelo

5x expanded by Buggie111 (talk). Nominated by Buggie111 (talk) at 03:20, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

This article was on my todo list. It's a crreaton (by someone else) from WP:NEWT, and I've been wanting to get rid of it's "fifth-tire" status in WP:OMT. Buggie111 (talk) 03:20, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Mexican pottery and ceramics

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:12, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

that's fine, too I was just trying to use shorthand for the complicated story.Thelmadatter (talk) 17:37, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

List of oldest current National Basketball Association Players

Created by Mr.crabby (talk). Self nom at 00:27, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

  • The list has only 395 characters of prose (the listed items and table are excluded). Furthermore, there is no source citation for the fact mentioned in the hook above. PleaseStand 02:32, 3 May 2010 (UTC)


Unicorns cricket team, Clydesdale Bank 40

  • ... that Unicorns, an unpaid English cricket team made up of out-of-contract professionals and aspiring youngsters, was created to take part in the 2010 Clydesdale Bank 40 competition?

Created by MDCollins (User talk:MDCollins) (Unicorns), and SGGH (talk) (Clydesdale Bank 40). Nominated by MDCollins (talk) at 02:37, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 2

94 Meetings

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 14:53, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Minuscule 697

  • ... that Minuscule 697 was found a village near Corinth, and bought by C. L. Merlin, British vice-consul in Athens, in 1865?

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 01:12, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Amos Starr Cooke, Samuel Northrup Castle

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 17:01, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Self Portrait with Two Circles

Rembrandt self portrait before the easel

Created by JNW (talk). Nominated by JNW (talk) at 23:18, 3 May 2010 (UTC)


Francis Ley

Derby County Baseball Club with Ley at the centre

5x expanded by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 21:35, 3 May 2010 (UTC)


Planet Earth Live

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 20:18, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

D'Arcy Power

  • ... that on his 75th birthday Sir D'Arcy Power was presented with a record of 609 of his "selected writings" by a special committee of the Osler Club?

Created by Jarry1250 (talk). Self nom at 13:12, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Why Don't You Love Me (song)

Created by Alexshunn (talk). Nominated by Tbhotch (talk) at 06:36, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Oxegen 2010

Jedward performing live on the 20th March, 2010 as part of the UK X Factor 2010 tour

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Nominated by Candlewicke (talk) at 04:32, 4 May 2010 (UTC)



Loretta Ables Sayre

Created by Ssilvers (talk), JDDJS (talk). Nominated by Ssilvers (talk) at 23:47, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Gerald Ratner Athletics Center

Ratner Athletic Center Ratner Athletic Center gymnasium

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 23:44, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

John F. Kennedy Eternal Flame

Grave of John F. Kennedy with the Eternal Flame

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 21:45, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Kennedy's birthday is May 29. Assuming this gets approved somehow, I'm willing to let this wait until May 29 so it can be posted on an appropriate day. - Tim1965 (talk) 22:16, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Oh 29 Mai 2010 will be his 93rd birthday, hardly a memorable number. Publish it now or wait until 29 May 2017. Also suggest a catchier DYK. For example, the fact that someone knelt in front of the flame and burned to death. Or that the government refused to accept the Kennedy family's offer to pay for the permanent memorial. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 23:55, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Alt1:Did you know that millions have visited the John F. Kennedy Eternal Flame, including one who knelt in front of the flame, fell, and burned to death?

Men and the City

Created by Francium12 (talk). Nominated by Francium12 (talk) at 21:23, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Gavril Dara the Younger

  • ... that although Kënka e sprasme e Balës is the best-known work of Gavril Dara the Younger, it was published after his death?

Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Self nom at 20:58, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Åge Hadler

Photo of Åge Hadler

5x expanded by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 20:29, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


Maharlika

Ferdinand Marcos at the White House in 1966

  • ... that former Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos (pictured) used the Filipino term Maharlika as a nom de guerre until his World War II exploits as a guerilla soldier were proven false in 1985?

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 17:35, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

A Tagalog couple of the Maharlika nobility caste depicted in the Boxer Codex of the 16th Century.

ALT 1: ... that during pre-colonial times in the Philippines, the word maharlika referred to the Tagalog warrior-class people (pictured) bound to serve datus in times of war?

Carnegie library of Reims

Art Deco luster in the entrance hall of the Carnegie Library of Reims

Created by Afernand74 (talk). Self nom at 15:26, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Erm, Art Deco was in fashion between the two wars, so it's a bit redundant to say "after World War I" ("I", not "1", btw). I'm aware that the hook means to connect this with post-WWI peace efforts, but maybe you could twaek the hook to avoid this problem and include both tidbits in a different way. Incidenatlly, is it Carnegie library" or "Carnegie Library"? Also, you might consider doing something about the chaotic format in the notes: you placed them both before and after the punctuation marks; the wikipedia standard is after punctuation marks, but in any case it will eventually have to be just one style throughout the article. Dahn (talk) 15:32, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
* Ref:. Done.
* library vs Library? No idea.
What about this alt hook?
*ALT1: ... that the Carnegie library of Reims was one of the three libraries offered by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace to devastated front-lines cities after World War I?
  • I don't see any thing "redundant" in the first version - the "after WWI" point concerns the purpose not the style. It should be "Library". Johnbod (talk) 20:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
If you know of any art deco buildings built before World War I, lemme know. As I have said, I realize this refers to another characteristic, but in this context it just looks weird. Yes, I realize this is a detail that jumped at me and may leave the others cold, and do not hold a gun to anybody's head to follow me on this one. But the fact remains that it is redundant, as trivial as my concern about it being redundant may in theory be, and regardless of whether the hook is ultimately rephrased or not. I'm just saying, is all. Dahn (talk) 03:14, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
In theory Art Deco = 1925. You are right. In practice, the movement started in 1900s in France. The some work of the Viennese Secession may (could or should) be classified as Art Deco. An example may be the Stoclet Palace in Brussel or Otto Wagner Postparkasse. But is it Art Deco or Art Nouveau?
Not all the buildings built between the two worlds were Art Deco in style. So it is not that trivial.
I used the word Art Deco to stress that the architect won the Gold Medal at the 1925 Art Deco fair.
Again, my issue here was with how the hook was phrased, as I have been saying from the beginning: the hook could communicate the same concept, but could also avoid saying what on first glance appears to be very similar (and is very similar). I'm aware of the classification issues regarding Secession v. Art Deco, but that too is not the issue: whatever loose definition of Art Deco one adopts, it still revolves around the basic fact that Secession architecture was an absolute exception in the interwar, and that, whatever Art Nouveau was to Art Deco, it was no longer a definition with two terms of comparison after WWI. And no, I have never said that the info would be trivial in the hook, and have even proposed a hook that would make the same idea work - that is, until other issues caught my eye (this is the substance of my posts below). Dahn (talk) 10:26, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Changed spelling of Library (and moved the page). I would prefer to see "art deco" remaining in the hook too.Alberto Fernandez Fernandez (talk) 11:41, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
We can actually have both, only my humble suggestion was that it could be phrased differently. Something like: "that the Carnegie Library of Reims, one of the three libraries built by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace after World War I, is built in Art Deco style?" And this is before I actually had a detailed look at what the article says. Did you? For one, it may stand to reason, but the notion that it is an art deco building is actually uncited. What's more, the relevant part text is, I'm sorry to say, very unencyclopedic, speculative, and written with an editorial voice. It talks to us about the harmony of its proportions, its beauty, it describes detail that it judges splendid, about how climbing stairs is the equivalent of aspiring to higher knowledge, and so on. The paragraphs are very undercited, without any attributed quotes, and there is a big problem with internal links - several in a line lead to the same article - and tenses (virtually everything is in the historical present that is so common in Romance language sources, but that is rarely used in English). For the relevant guidelines and policies, see WP:POV, WP:PEACOCK, WP:ATTR, WP:OVERLINK (and our WP:MOS in general). Dahn (talk) 03:25, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
I wrote the article. So I did read it. Art Deco uncited? The architect won the Gold medal at the 1925 Exposition Internationale des Arts Décoratifs et Industriels Modernes that gave the name Art Deco. Did I miss something?
I remove all the "splendid" and "beautiful" I put. I admit I was a little bit too enthusiastic about the place.
My English is not up to standards. Hope somebody will copyedit it.
Regarding the references, I forgot to buy the reference book when I visited the library. Hope somebody after me will do. Alberto Fernandez Fernandez (talk) 08:24, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't check to see if there was the same user page behind both signatures. The fact remains that the info is uncited, and the tidbit you refer to is also uncited: there is no reference after it, or, for that matter, throughout most of the text. This is not only a generic content issue (WP:ATTR, WP:CITE, WP:RS etc.), it is also a main requirement for DYK entries (see Misplaced Pages:Did you know#DYK rules: "The nomination's hook must contain a fact cited in the article. The fact should have an inline citation, and the article in general should use inline, cited sources.")
On the other issues: well, stuff like that happens all the time. Your English is okay from what I see, the problem remains with the tenses, and, as I have said before, it results from a common misunderstanding (one more reason why I encourage editors to read the WP:MOS is that we can streamline the effort of improving content). The main issue is that the article should have some sort of citations, if not for the quality of its content in the long run, then for the DYK submission at least. Dahn (talk) 10:39, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Ralph Hungerford

Black and white photograph of a man, from the shoulders up, in naval uniform. He has two shoulder mark with bars and a single star on them and a hat with a black brim and an eagle emblazoned on it. He has a small mustache, and is staring to his right.

Created by Scapler (talk). Self nom at 07:46, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


Rondalla

Cropped image of the rondalla

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 05:03, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

  • The guitar pic either here and in the article makes/would make no sense. If I may, I would like to suggest either permanently or temporarily cropping the image of the rondalla from the pic in the article, for the purpose of illustrating the actual instrument. Dahn (talk) 12:46, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Changed image with cropped version from Commons. - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:26, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
It makes no sense to have an image of an instrument because according to the article a rondalla is an ensemble, not an instrument. Gatoclass (talk) 08:08, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
I think the article means to say it's (also) a class of instruments. Dahn (talk) 15:29, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Heber Bartolome

  • ... that apart from being a folk musician and painter, Heber Bartolome was an active lobbyist for the rights of Filipino composers?
  • Comment: *ALT 1: ... that Filipino folk musician Heber Bartolome's compositions were described as a unique synthesis of rock and blues, and Philippine ethnic rhythms?
  • ALT 2: ... that Heber Bartolome was the founder of Banyuhay, a Filipino protest and folk music band that carried the trademark sound of the native musical instrument known as the kubing?

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:47, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Ernest Troubridge

Black and white photograph of a white haired man in a suit and bow tie at a desk with several pieces of paper, right quarter profile, looking towards the viewer, holding a pen in the right hand

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 01:52, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


USS Washington (BB-47)

5x expanded by Buggie111 (talk). Nominated by Buggie111 (talk) at 01:45, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

  • If the expansion ended today. That means that the X5 expansion began over 800 days ago. You need to get it expanded in less than 10 days. Sorry Buggie but if you can expand it a bit more, I'm sure that you could get it ready in time.--White Shadows 02:51, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
My prozesize.js says that it was 714 in the begining, and needed 3570. It's now 3605. Buggie111 (talk) 03:13, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Date, expansion, fact verified. White Shadows reads what the DYK check too literally - the tool is imperfect. Materialscientist (talk) 03:45, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry about that. Yes it is good to go.--White Shadows 16:26, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 1

Cameron's Line

Created by Dmadeo (talk). Self nom at 06:27, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Mazra'a

5x expanded by Huldra (talk), Zero0000 (talk), Tiamut (talk). Nominated by Tiamut (talk) at 20:15, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

The Mighty Hannibal

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk), Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 19:11, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

..or, ALT1: ... that Vernon Jordan's cousin, The Mighty Hannibal, was jailed after "Jerkin' the Dog"?
But, in any case, please don't credit me with an assist on this article - my contribution was microscopically minimal (but thanks anyway for the thought, Derek). Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:40, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Phil Packer

Phil Packer

Created by DeLarge (talk). Self nom at 15:25, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Gibtelecom

Created by Ecemaml (talk), Gibmetal77 (talk). Nominated by Gibmetal77 (talk) at 22:20, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

The "largest telecom operator" fact isn't referenced, not that I can tell, anyway... - The Bushranger (talk) 07:06, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Literary societies at Washington & Jefferson College

  • ... that

prior to the merger of Jefferson College with Washington College to form Washington & Jefferson College, the two schools had an intense literary rivalry?

Created by GrapedApe (talk). Nominated by GrapedApe (talk) at 04:13, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Straight Up (book)

Created by Ssilvers (talk). Nominated by Ssilvers (talk) at 04:36, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Limb infarction

  • ... that after a limb infarction, approximately 70 percent of infarcted arms or legs remain alive and vital after 6 months?

Created by Mikael Häggström (talk). Self nom at 16:37, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Lemurs of Madagascar

Created by Visionholder (talk). Self nom at 05:44, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Beth Rickey

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:35, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Babcock-Macomb House

Babcock-Macomb House

Created/expanded by Grsz11 (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


2010 European Under-18 Rugby Union Championship

Created by Calistemon (talk). Nominated by Calistemon (talk) at 00:21, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Hochheim, Texas

  • ... that the German settlement of Hochheim, Texas, which means “high home,” is named for founder Volentine Hoch who appropriately built his house on a nearby hill?

5x expanded by William S. Saturn (talk). Nominated by William S. Saturn (talk) at 00:08, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Patrick Manogue

(Alternate hook) New by Morenooso (talk). Nominated by Morenooso (talk) at 23:24, 1 May 2010 (UTC) -->

Very confused - the article says he built a cathedral - where is the mansion mentioned? Victuallers (talk) 10:33, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
The mansion is a very bad (or good - depending on you like hooks) play of words or hook on a house of God which a cathedral is. House usually used for church; a mansion is a very expensive house; ergo, cathedral. "House of God" wikilinked to "Cathedral of the Blessed Sacrament" would work too. Morenooso (talk) 12:09, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
I think I understand - and I like hooks that tease (but not lie) .... and you don't live in a cathedral. Can you find another hook? Victuallers (talk) 22:23, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Hook revised. --Morenooso (talk) 03:19, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Hook shortened. Morenooso (talk) 21:30, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Liliom (1934 film)

Created by Andrzejbanas (talk). Nominated by Andrzejbanas (talk) at 23:19, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

for tighter construction and an added link, how about "...that, among the films he directed, Liliom was one of Fritz Lang's favourites?
Works for me! Andrzejbanas (talk) 03:30, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Intimate Exchanges

Alan Ayckbourn

  • ... that the 1982 play Intimate Exchanges by Alan Ayckbourn includes 31 scenes, 16 hours of dialogue and 10 characters, all performed by only two actors, and has been produced only twice in its entirety?

Created by GDallimore (talk). Nominated by GDallimore (talk) at 22:49, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Except that isn't correct and isn't mentioned or referenced in the article. It's not the actors' decision. The best that could be said is that "IE has 16 different endings", but multiple endings is not particularly unique - it's the scale of Intimate Exchanges that makes it different from anything else. GDallimore (Talk) 11:40, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
I was confused by the article saying "As the play progresses, the characters make choices each of which causes the story to go in one of two directions" ...which sounds to me like the hook I offered. Still happy to let you decide... I found the article much more intriguing than the hook. Victuallers (talk) 22:28, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. But just to make clear, the distinction between the (non-real) characters and the (real-life) actors is important when the play is actually produced. GDallimore (Talk) 01:21, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Intimate Exchanges

  • (alt2) ... that the 1982 play Intimate Exchanges by Alan Ayckbourn includes 31 scenes (pictured), 16 possible endings, 10 characters, and 8 major plot variations, all performed by only 2 actors?
How's that looking? GDallimore (Talk) 15:45, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Kaare Fostervoll

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 22:31, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Bathynerita naticoidea

Created by Snek01 (talk). Nominated by Snek01 (talk) at 20:44, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Graceful shark

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 20:19, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Caitlin Thomas

  • ... that when Dylan Thomas' wife, Caitlin Thomas arrived at his death bed, her words were reportedly, "Is the bloody man dead yet?"?

Expanded by FruitMonkey (talk). Self nom by FruitMonkey (talk) 19:54, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Article before today was 1074 characters without references. It now stands at 5280 without references, contents header or image (and still rising). FruitMonkey (talk) 19:54, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
One question mark is plenty. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:04, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Although they look ugly, two are needed. Ericoides (talk) 08:56, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Reordering the hook would avoid this problem, as follows: ErinM (talk) 04:39, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
  • ALT1: ...that Caitlin Thomas reportedly shouted "Is the bloody man dead yet?" when arriving at the deathbed of her husband, Dylan Thomas?
That works for me. FruitMonkey (talk) 06:45, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
And me. - The Bushranger Return fire 05:59, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Kaare Frydenberg

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 15:22, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Dunne D.8

Created by TSRL (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 15:20, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Forrestdale Lake

5x expanded by Maias (talk). Self nom at 14:30, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

White Horse Temple

A gate with three arches, the central and largest doors being open, flanked by walls with painted chinese characters and guarded by two stone statues of lions

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), John Hill (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 14:05, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Election court

Created by Dmvward (talk). Nominated by Dmvward (talk) at 13:23, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Atsuko Seta

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 12:49, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Tony Moll

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 07:52, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

De Bullemolen, Lekkum

Photograph of a Dutch windmill at work

Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 07:26, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Karma Gon Monastery

--> Nominated by John Hill (talk) and Nvvchar (talk)11:23, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Mizunokojima Lighthouse

Created by The ed17 (talk). Nominated by The ed17 (talk) at 07:25, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

John Gould Moyer

Created by Scapler (talk). Self nom at 06:30, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Majorcan cartographic school

Catalan Atlas

5x expanded by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 04:59, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on April 30

Numedal Line

Overgrown tracks running through the picture with a pink, wooden station building to the left

5x expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Nominated by Arsenikk (talk) at 18:49, 4 May 2010 (UTC)


Ghost estate

Created by Kateshortforbob (talk). Self nom at 15:54, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Jimmy Hughes (singer)

  • ... that Jimmy Hughes, whose soul recordings "helped define the signature Muscle Shoals sound", retired from performing and recording at the age of 32?

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 08:46, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Leon Smith (tennis coach)

Created by Cassandra 73 (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

George Clavering-Cowper, 3rd Earl Cowper

A portrait of a man in a tailcoat, carrying a walking stick and raising his hat above his head; set in an italianate landscape

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 17:58, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


Sault-au-Cochon, Quebec

Created by P199 (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Jos Buttler

A young man with dark hair is dressed in an all white cricket kit with a blue peaked cap, large gloves and thick pads covering his lower legs. He is crouched low behind a set of wooden stumps.

5x expanded by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 17:32, 1 May 2010 (UTC)


Thomas Greenhill (surgeon)

Engraving of head and shoulders of a man wearing a long wig

5x expanded by LittleHow (talk). Nominated by LittleHow (talk) at 10:43, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Arterial embolism

Created by Mikael Häggström (talk). Self nom at 05:10, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Billy Gray (actor)

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:33, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

ALT: ...that in 1983 the actor Billy Gray declared his former television series Father Knows Best to have been "totally false and a disservice to everyone"?

Hovertrain

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 01:35, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Bertain's Aérotrain #02


Mission Santa Cruz de San Sabá

Created by Karanacs (talk). Nominated by Karanacs (talk) at 21:48, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Joe LeSage

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:35, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

LSU Sports source has replaced fanbase.com Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:24, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Because we don't know that LeSage was "the quarterback" as opposed to one of a few QBs on the squad, I suggest:

Alice Nunn

Created by Dr.K. (talk). Self nom at 20:54, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the input. Below is a proposed alternate (the citation is provided in the article). Dr.K.  22:06, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Catatropis johnstoni

Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 20:43, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Ascocotyle pindoramensis

Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 19:23, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

List of Major League Baseball runs batted in champions

A man in a black baseball jersey and gray pinstriped pants prepares for a right-handed baseball swing.

5x expanded by Staxringold (talk). Nominated by Staxringold (talk) at 19:17, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Wooden Leg: A Warrior Who Fought Custer

Created by Spinningspark (talk). Self nom at 18:41, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Date and length check out but both hooks have problems. I really like the first one in principle, but the article doesn't actually state Wooden Leg didn't have a Wooden leg - only that that's not where his name came from. And as for the second one, the article says Wooden Leg spoke "little" English, not none. Try a rephrase? - DustFormsWords (talk) 00:04, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
  • You are being a bit pedantic on your first point, this is clearly meant by implication in both the article and book. I was not really expecting the original hook to fly in any case, but if you want to use it, I have a source that specifically states this fact and it could be inserted in the article if necessary. On the second point, strictly speaking you are correct, I was trying to keep the hook snappy. Yes, it can be reworded, SpinningSpark 12:30, 6 May 2010 (UTC);

Jejemon

  • ... that the word "Jejemon" supposedly came from Filipino online users' penchant to type in "hehehe" as "jejeje", supposedly because the letters "h" and "j" are beside each other?

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Nominated by Howard the Duck (talk) at 13:33, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Date and length check out but the hook's no good. Your source for the "supposedly" ALSO says "supposedly", with no attribution given but in a context where in the previous paragraph he'd been quoting the Urban Dictionary - certainly not a reliable source. Try again with a different hook? - DustFormsWords (talk) 23:11, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
  • That's not a particularly interesting hook but date, length and source check out, so good to go. The article could use a lot of work; in particular, Urban Dictionary isn't a reliable (or meaningful) source even if it's quoted by CNET Asia. - DustFormsWords (talk) 00:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Polydorus (Priam's Son)

Engraving from Ovid's Metamorphoses, showing Polymestor killing Polydorus

Created by Dwilliams1751 (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 13:23, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

V.J. Bella

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 05:00, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

ALT:... that former State Fire Marshal V.J. Bella was the driving force behind the establishment of the Louisiana Firefighters Memorial in Baton Rouge?
  • Citations 4 and 9 aren't useful, and perhaps 8 as well, but the primary citations are all good. Citations 6 and 7 are simply reprints of an Associated Press story (generally reliable) and of a major newspaper story (surely reliable). Nyttend (talk) 18:54, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

List of parasites of the marsh rice rat

A reddish-brown rat on soil with some debris.

  • Comment: The article has been there for a while, but I expanded the prose portion more than 5x today.

5x expanded by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 03:40, 30 April 2010 (UTC)


James Whitcomb Riley

James Whitcomb Riley

5x expanded by Charles Edward (talk). Nominated by Charles Edward (talk) at 02:13, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

  • That's so weird, I actually read part of this article about half an hour ago while browsing around, and now I find it here. offline source taken in good faith, but a couple comments: who is Bodenhamer, and you are relying a lot on just the one source. —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 04:35, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
  • I know, the article is a work in progress. (you may notice the last third of his life is missing!) I have more sources available and will employ them during the next week, I am hoping to make a featured article out of it. It just finally got 5x expanded so I put it here. Brodenhamer is Encyclopedia of Indianapolis.. I need to add that, there is also an online reference for that hook listed after the sentance, but they are three say about the same thing. :) —Charles Edward  12:10, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Sendero

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 02:00, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Emil Isac

Created by Dahn (talk). Nominated by Dahn (talk) at 01:47, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Magic Fountain of Montjuïc

Magic Fountain of Montjuïc

Created/expanded by Grsz11 (talk). Self nom at 00:34, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 29

John Mackintosh Square

Construction of an air-raid shelter beneath John Mackintosh Square (then known as Commercial Square) in 1939.

Created by Ecemaml (talk), Gibmetal77 (talk). Nominated by Gibmetal77 (talk) at 21:50, 4 May 2010 (UTC)



2010–11 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 18:19, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

  • I have several concerns about this. First, I think most of the article (probably including any hook to be used) should be written in future tense. This is about a season that hasn't yet begun, with players who haven't yet enrolled in school. That brings up my second concern, which is to wonder about whether we should be putting a future event on the front page in this way. I'm asking for feedback on the latter concern at WT:DYK cmadler (talk) 19:07, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Al Mazar, Jenin

5x expanded by Huldra (talk), Tiamut (talk), Zero0000 (talk). Nominated by Tiamut (talk) at 13:55, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Hableh

  • ... that the Palestinian village of Hableh is located on a rocky ridge in which there are numerous ancient cisterns cut into the rock?

5x expanded by Tiamut (talk), Zero0000 (talk). Nominated by Tiamut (talk) at 13:44, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Sulam

The village of Sulam before 1914

5x expanded by Huldra (talk), Tiamut (talk), Zero0000 (talk). Nominated by Tiamut (talk) at 13:38, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Kelly Faris

Created by Sphilbrick (talk). Self nom at 01:24, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Black-throated Gray Warbler

Created by Innotata (talk). Self nom at 16:20, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Ornithidium donaldeedodii

Created by First Light (talk). Nominated by First Light (talk) at 16:00, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Hootie Ingram

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 07:25, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Union Hall (Adelaide)

Adelaide University's Union Hall

Created/expanded by Lear's Fool (talk). Nominated by Lear's Fool (talk) at 16:11, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Date, length and hook are good - EXCEPT that the sources don't say "fireman", they say "fire warden", which may or may not be the same thing. (In my experience they're typically different, with the hypothetical warden being an employee of the hall rather than of the fire department.) Could you consider this issue and revise the article and hook accordingly? - DustFormsWords (talk) 06:53, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I'm aware of it. The article by Peter Goers (here) uses the word fire warden, but the On Dit article from 1958 (which is a source contemporary to the opening) uses the word fireman, and the offline source (The University of Adelaide. 1874-1974 by Duncan) uses the phrase fireman as well as referring to the specific law. Accordingly, of the two I felt fireman was better referenced. If the confusion makes this an inappropriate fact for a DYK, maybe some of the following would be better. -- Lear's Fool (talk | contribs) 07:47, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Original hook and ALT1 approved if we perhaps change the word "fireman" to "fire officer" which encompasses both warden and fireman and has the added advantage of being gender-neutral. ALT2 and ALT3 also check out although I do think ALT1 is more interesting and better worded. - DustFormsWords (talk) 08:00, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Paul Mactire

Created by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 08:51, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Unity Ranger Station

no

Created by Orygun (talk). Nominated by Orygun (talk) at 01:15, 30 April 2010 (UTC)


1958 Paraguayan general strike

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 19:43, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

USS Recruit (1917)

A battleship under construction, surrounded by wood beams and planks, in the middle of a park surrounded by apartment buildings and skyscrapers.

5x expanded by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 19:04, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

*scratches head* Are you sure? By my count, as of this diff, there were 580 characters, and 580x5=2900. Current count is 2943 characters. - The Bushranger (talk) 22:27, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
My mistake in checking the expansion of the article. Approved. PleaseStand 22:49, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


Elmer H. Inman

  • ... that Elmer H. Inman married the daughter of the warden of his first prison?

Created by 72.74.196.187 (talk). Nominated by Buggie111 (talk) at 18:15, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Couldn't find an online source. I think Jean LaBanta was DYK'ed with one source. Buggie111 (talk) 22:42, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Jean LaBanta was not nominated for DYK; check "What links here" and there is no link from the recent additions page, neither is there a DYK banner on the talk page. What it did go through was AfC, with the single source the same as in this article. I have no problem with approving this nomination except that upon making it to the main page, it would inevitably be tagged with the {{one source}} maintenance tag. PleaseStand 01:25, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Banksia lemanniana, Banksia caleyi, Banksia elderiana

an oval pinkish flowerhead nestled among foliage

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 14:51, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Boronia imlayensis

a dainty little plant with small pink and white flowers

5x expanded by Poyt448 (talk), Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 13:24, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

  • - Good to go. 315 x 5 = 1575, this is 1907 characters. Had me worried there though counting ;) Mitch32 22:57, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


No. 2 Commando

 --Jim Sweeney (talk) 11:09, 29 April 2010 (UTC) self nom
  • Possessive apostrophe convention-Wetman (talk) 13:47, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
    • I think I've fixed this issue (in the article). I couldn't see where in the citation provided that it specifically stated that the men were the "first" victims. The online source does say that the men were executed under the Commando Order, but does not (unless I missed something) specifically state that they were the first victims. I have added an offline source that specifically states this. A Google Books view can confirm this source: . Another source that states this is Messenger, The Commandos: 1940-1946, p. 175, which can also be viewed in the Google books search listed previously. Cheers. — AustralianRupert (talk) 07:35, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

?Oryzomys pliocaenicus

Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 02:18, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

42 (song)

5x expanded by White Shadows (talk), NerdyScienceDude (talk). Nominated by NerdyScienceDude (talk) at 00:23, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 28

Shi Tiesheng

5x expanded by Larrybob (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Everybody Draw Mohammed Day

5x expanded by JohnWBarber (talk). Nominated by Cirt (talk) at 20:21, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment - I'm not entirely convinced that the notability of this event (especially as something distinct from 200 (South Park)) outweighs the distress caused to Molly Norris by continued publicisation of it, which is why I'm passing on reviewing this nom. Others are welcome to feel differently and approve it. - DustFormsWords (talk) 09:42, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
  • The result of the deletion discussion was "keep", which settles the issue of notability as far as DYK is concerned. The article meets the other requirements for DYK, the hook is appropriately sourced, the fact can be verified at an online source. Moynihan has publicly stated his support (see ), and there doesn't appear to be any BLP issue here. Approved. cmadler (talk) 13:58, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
  • We just had a discussion about this in regards to the 201 article hook and it was agreed that it would not be an appropriate article to feature in DYK at this time. And now you are back touting it as a DYK submission in its own right?
I can only repeat what I said previously - I don't believe we should feature an article on this questionable event at this time, as it smacks of promotionalism. I would support holding it over until after May 20, when there will be no question of promotionalism and there will be more information available to add to the article. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, not a soapbox, it's bad enough when we are featuring articles about innocuous upcoming events but for a controversial political event such as this I think it would be appropriate to pass on it. Gatoclass (talk) 14:00, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Gatoclass (talk · contribs) appears to be attempting to use this page as a forum to continue his failed arguments from the AFD, which resulted in Keep. The page on 201 (South Park) was successfully a DYK. This article as well also meets the criteria. The hook is factual and verifiable. The hook should be used. -- Cirt (talk) 14:02, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Notability is not my concern, as I think I made clear in the post above. Please respond to my point rather than make straw man arguments. Gatoclass (talk) 14:05, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
You made the exact same types of arguments at the AFD, where you complained about "promotion", even in the face of significant source coverage of the subject mattter by numerous secondary sources. Your arguments were addressed and dismissed by the consensus of the AFD. -- Cirt (talk) 14:10, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
No, the question at an AfD is whether an article meets the threshold for notability or not. The issue here at DYK is completely different. At DYK we are concerned with what is appropriate to feature on the main page, which is a totally different issue. Gatoclass (talk) 14:15, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Gatoclass, you are using the same tired complaints and arguments in both places, in an attempt to shoot down this article, first from even existing, and now from being a DYK. That smacks of WP:FORUMSHOP. -- Cirt (talk) 14:20, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Oh nonsense. Once again, please put the diversions aside and try responding to my actual point. Gatoclass (talk) 14:26, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Bold text This is really the best hook anyone can think of? It seems to be little more than a tagent to the article. If I were to remove it from the article, would anyone care? Hipocrite (talk) 14:16, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Yes, it is quite a significant fact that a notable journalist is supporting the protest movement and has announced the posting of images to the website of the magazine. -- Cirt (talk) 14:18, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
I don't see much wrong with the original hook but again, that is not the issue. The issue here is whether we should be touting a political campaign, particularly one which various commentators have described as insensitive and in poor taste. Gatoclass (talk) 14:22, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much, Hipocrite (talk · contribs), for suggesting this alternate hook. Either one would be fine. -- Cirt (talk) 14:23, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
The only objection made to linking EDMD in the hook for 201 was that EDMD was at AfD at the time. Here is the last version of this page with 201 on it. There was no agreement "that it would not be an appropriate article to feature in DYK at this time" beyond the AfD concern, which has been resolved. You are claiming consensus where none existed. Further, it appears that there is no general concern at DYK with using hooks about future events; just the other day I posted an inquiry at WT:DYK and was told that hooks about future events have been used regularly and there is no special standard or concern about them. cmadler (talk) 14:24, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry cmadler, but that is not in my view an accurate summation of the previous discussion. It most certainly was not only about the AfD, it was also about the appropriateness of effectively touting an upcoming political event. Furthermore, I never claimed "consensus" for my views but as the arguments I put forward were not responded to, I assumed they had been accepted. As for your comment about upcoming events, again, there is a great deal of difference between an innocuous event like a football game or a rock concert, and a political event such as this one. Gatoclass (talk) 14:34, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
I must agree with Gatoclass here. By featuring this on the Main Page, we would be giving visibility to a controversial political campaign. I do not think that's appropriate. Ucucha 14:54, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Read through the previous discussion again. One user objected to the initial hook because it was too similar to the hook for 200, and you agreed. You mentioned that you thought an ALT hook was still too similar. You stated regarding EDMD that "we should at least wait until the AFD is resolved before proceeding with this one." Another ALT was suggested and you wrote "I think I'd still like to wait on the result of the AFD, because I'm concerned that if we promote an article to the front page with a link to the Everybody Draw Mohammed Day article, it may appear as if we were promoting the event." The AfD is done, so that part of your concern is answered, and as was recently pointed out on WT:DYK, we ran a hook about President Obama's inauguration weeks before it happened, and that's also a political event. cmadler (talk) 14:54, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Oh goodness me, the inauguration of a US President is light years away from an event like this. It gets absolutely massive media coverage and we could not remotely be charged with "promoting" it by covering it.
In regards to your interpretation of my comments in the previous DYK thread, I concede it is possible that I failed to state my concerns with sufficient clarity, but I have corrected that error now. Gatoclass (talk) 15:05, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
I won't argue that EDMD has (or will) reach a level of media coverage on par with a presidential inauguration - if that was the standard, almost nothing would meet it - but EDMD has recieved reasonably widespread media coverage, as the AfD debate noted. This is not an obscure event that Misplaced Pages is somehow in the vanguard of covering. cmadler (talk) 15:25, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
The more cynical part of me says if it was "Everybody Draw Jesus Day", we wouldn't be having all this skunk-wrestling over "promoting the event" via featuring the hook in DYK. As it is, my opinon is based on taking a dispassionate look at the controversy and article: controversial or not, who is or isn't involved or has withdrawn, it still exists and it's verifiable. IMHO, excluding it from DYK on the "might seem to be promoting it" grounds would be just as POV as including it to promote it. - The Bushranger (talk) 15:18, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, The Bushranger, much appreciated. -- Cirt (talk) 15:19, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
That's a very good point, The Bushranger. It exists, it's verifiable, it meets Misplaced Pages's criteria for an article, and it appears to meet all established criteria for inclusion in DYK. Excluding it because of concerns about giving "visibility to a controversial political campaign" would be imposition of that POV. If you think there should be a special DYK rule regarding future events (that would address the concern about promotion, because promotion isn't generally a concern after the fact), then let's discuss that at WT:DYK - there's already a section started about that topic. But arguing that we shouldn't use it in DYK because it's a "controversial" future event creates a problematic standard. cmadler (talk) 15:36, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Well look I'm sure we have excluded articles for similar concerns in the past. I haven't time to go looking for examples though, and it's very late here and I can't stay up much longer. But I do think this issue requires more consideration, so I hope there won't be any rush to promote this before the issue has been thoroughly discussed. Gatoclass (talk) 15:46, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
  • I agree with Ucucha above; by including this on the main page, we appear—regardless of intent—to be giving undue prominence to a current political campaign. The issue isn't "current event"—if this were a forthcoming building opening, sports fixture, rocket launch etc it wouldn't be a problem—but the fact that it has a high potential to look to an outside observer like the use of Misplaced Pages as a campaigning mechanism. – iridescent 15:50, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Continuing that logic, though, in reductio ad absurdum fashion, no article about a product or service should ever be in DYK, because it could look to an outside observer like the use of Misplaced Pages to endorse that product or service. It should be rembered that Misplaced Pages is not censored, and that Misplaced Pages does not avoid a topic out of sympathy for a particular point of view. Now, with that said, if a consensus forms that this should be held back for concern of it being perceived as political-POV, then that should be made a guideline, and it would need to be stuck to for all articles about "controversial political (or religious) campaigns" seeking inclusion in DYK. The law of unintended consequences should be kept well in mind while considering this. - The Bushranger (talk) 18:15, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
  • This is silly. We have an article created in the relevant timeframe, which was kept at AfD against the very concerns raised here, and we're not talking all-day featured article box promotion, we're talking a line at DYK, the same coverage we give to porn stars and the like. I support its inclusion, and question the political agenda of those who are creating such a ruckus in here about it. Orderinchaos 19:37, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
    • AFD is about notability, not about putting an article on the front page. You have as much right to question my political agenda as I have to question the political agenda of those who are creating such a ruckus to get this article on the Main Page (i.e., none, if that is unclear to you). Ucucha 19:45, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
      • The very first comment here objected to DYK on the grounds of notability. Others then agreed. Notability, however, had been established at AfD. That was my point. Orderinchaos 19:51, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
        • We've moved on since; Gatoclass, Iridescent, and I have brought up a different argument. No one is still arguing that it is not notable, so there's no reason to argue that it is. Ucucha 19:54, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
          • Answer me this though - does this mean every time we have a porn star on DYK (it happens often), we're "promoting" them as opposed to, I don't know, other porn stars or something? Orderinchaos 19:55, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
            • Porn stars simply do their work to make money and because people buy the product. It's no different than someone who works on an assembly line putting automobiles together. The event being discussed is not a job. It's a political/religious event intended to anger the other side. Sorry, but you are comparing apples to oranges. – VisionHolder « talk » 20:22, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
            • I realize I read your question too quickly (and incorrectly). Anyway, porn stars are synonymous with other types of celebrities. I think the example pushes the reasoning of "promotion" too far. Anyway, let's not let this discussion digress. Wiki is not a is not a forum. As I said above, this article is not about a product, but a political/religious event intended to anger people. The comparison is still not appropriate. – VisionHolder « talk » 22:09, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
              • No, Visionholder, that's just factually incorrect: neither the cartoonist, nor the major promoters of EDMD have said that they intended to anger people -- in fact, they've said the opposite (and not just the cartoonist, but I think nearly all the others). -- JohnWBarber (talk) 01:11, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
                • According to the article, the idea is that if a lot of people depict Mohammed, the terrorists can't possibly kill all of them. ("Norris said that if millions of people draw pictures of Muhammad, Islamist terrorists would not be able to murder them all, and threats to do so would become unrealistic.") It's a form of protest that openly flaunts something that another religious group finds offensive. They know they are going to anger people, but the idea is that if everyone does it, individuals can't be targeted. Whether it's a protest or not, and whether or not its in support of free speech, the people involved know that their actions will offend a specific group of people. It doesn't matter if they feel it shouldn't. – VisionHolder « talk » 01:23, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
                  • It's a form of protest that openly flaunts something that another religious group finds offensive. We do that all the time, in some ways. Certain Muslims don't want any human beings doing certain things that the rest of us feel should be done. Women walking around in public without burqas may also offend the same people for the same theological reasons. There were always two different Islamic objections to depictions of Muhammad: One was that he was being depicted at all, the other that he was being depicted in an insulting way. The cartoonist pointed out that she didn't actually depict Muhammad, and she didn't appear to advocate that he be depicted in insulting ways (although that sounds very naive, since she reasonably would know some people would be insulting to Muhammad, but she can't control that in any event and can't be responsible for that; she might've asked people to be respectful, but there's a slapdash quality to everything she drew, said and did at the start of this). They know they are going to anger people -- that's a helluva lot different from doing something in order to anger people. There are often justifiable reasons for doing things that we know will anger others. (That's often what's at the center of any controversy, and we have a lot of articles on controversies.) There are hardly any reasons for doing something with the intention of angering others. There's a big, big difference between those two things. -- JohnWBarber (talk) 02:05, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
    • I agree with the points made by Gatoclass, Ucucha, Iridescent and VisionHolder above. --JN466 00:00, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Rather than avoiding controversial subjects as DYK material, why not just treat articles about them as we would treat any other article, controversial or not? If DYK bullets are going to avoid controversy, by the way, the featured articles and news articles are going to continue to be edgy. Wasn't Super Columbine Massacre RPG! featured on the main page? And according to this discussion , we had something about "Boobquakes" on the main page. I'm sympathetic to the idea that we shouldn't be offending religious sensibilities of millions of people. But some subjects will offend some people, so we can't avoid doing it all the time, anyway. I don't think there's a case to be made that this is particularly more offensive (there's nothing inherently offensive about pictures of Mohammed, which could be respectful artwork, unless you take an ultra-fundamentalist view that some hadiths about idolizing Muhammad with images mean that no one, anywhere can create an image for any reason, and if we're going to avoid offending people with that POV, we're going to be avoiding a lot of other things they don't want us to do). If the main page had a policy of avoiding controversy and offense to vocal minorities, I'd accept that, but I don't think this subject should be treated differently from other controversial topics. -- JohnWBarber (talk) 01:46, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
  • I want to state clearly that I oppose censoring Wiki. Controversial topics, such as porn stars or depictions of Mohammed, should be represented on Wiki, even on the main page. As long as a hook that is as neutral as possible, stating clearly that it offends a specific religion, I don't have a big problem with it. Another option would be to delay the DYK in this specific case until after May 20 so that there is no question about whether or not Wiki is promoting it. When the event is over and done with, and if the hook is truly neutral, there shouldn't be a problem. Anyway, I'm now bowing out of this debate. Whatever happens, happens. My $0.02+ have been shared. Best wishes to both sides. – VisionHolder « talk » 01:55, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
How about running it in DYK on May 20? That would seem to be a reasonable compromise, I'd think. - The Bushranger Return fire 02:00, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Multiple editors have verified the hook, and confirmed that it meets the DYK criteria. It should not be delayed for reasons of perceived "promotion" that are simply not there. -- Cirt (talk) 02:03, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
  • I'm sorry to have started this whole discussion. For myself, I never implied we shouldn't feature it, just that I myself, having visited Molly Norris' page, found that my interest in Misplaced Pages neutrality was less than my interest in not causing further distress to someone who didn't ask to be a celebrity, and for that reason I was ignoring a DYK that I'd otherwise be reviewing. I only commented because I felt ignoring a hook I'd otherwise review without explaining why wasn't fair on the nominator. It was a vote of conscience, and I'm not at all bothered with (as I assumed would be the case) someone else feeling differently and deciding to approve it. As people have pointed out, DYK isn't the place for arguing notability or Misplaced Pages policy and if the article complies with the DYK rules it should be approved. - DustFormsWords (talk) 02:04, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
  • While I think the principle I originally espoused is a sound one, that we should avoid doing anything that might smack of advocacy, on reflection I think the cat is already out of the bag on this one, it's been discussed on NPR and even academics are now weighing in. The article is also well written and NPOV, so I think I will drop my opposition to its promotion, although I would still prefer the original hook proposed by Cirt rather than the ALT, which is too similar to another hook we already ran IMO. Gatoclass (talk) 02:19, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Ditto Cirt. I agree with Gatoclass that the initial hook is preferred to the ALT, and if someone has a specific problem with the initial hook, or has a better one in mind, I think we could look at that. cmadler (talk) 11:37, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
I think the Salomonic solution is to run the hook after May 20. This avoids the perception that Misplaced Pages is promoting the event. Would that be acceptable to everyone? --JN466 09:02, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Common practice at DYK is to run articles when they are relatively new or recently expanded. When an article has a connection to a specific date, we often hold the hook for that date, and so I don't see a problem with running a hook for EDMD on 5/20. However, I don't think we should hold it for after 5/20, because that is clearly outside the normal DYK practice, unless you are suggesting that we change that practice for all hooks dealing with expected future events (and I don't think you'd find consensus for such a change). cmadler (talk) 11:37, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Running it on 5/20 would fit established practice and is fine with me (in fact, I suggested it earlier). Running it after 5/20...is what all of ^that^ was all about...so, no, no support there (or for the overall change). Running it on the date in question makes the most sense and is consistent with (good) precedent. - The Bushranger Return fire 17:00, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment - Repeated subject matter in DYK of any kind is annoying. We get it, some non-Muslim Americans and the like find it silly that Muslims get so upset over a cartoon; but it's undeniably important for the conservative ones. However, I don't believe we should censor, it is not our job to ensure that all articles featured on the Main page meet everyones' approval.
    Besides, just run it already, no one will even remember two weeks from now about it. - Theornamentalist (talk) 19:11, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Edward Wingfield Humphreys

Portrait photo of Humphreys, showing a middle-aged man with a full beard

  • Comment: The article was created in user spaced and moved into mainspace on 28 April 2010. Previously a double-nomination with Frederic Jones.

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 10:25, 30 April 2010 (UTC)


Ernie Zampese

  • ... that John Madden said Ernie Zampese, coach of the leading pass offense in the NFL six times in seven years, "very well may be the top offensive mind in the game"?

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 23:09, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Hermogenes (magister officiorum)

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 19:44, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

  • The article is long and new enough, and I verified the fact through google books; it appears in plenty of them. (This is my first DYK check; I'm not sure what, if anything else I need to do afterward.) Pcap ping 19:06, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Ignace Bourget

A seated man with tonsure in Roman Catholic priest's vestments.

5x expanded by DustFormsWords (talk). Nominated by DustFormsWords (talk) at 07:47, 2 May 2010 (UTC)


Gahnia aspera

a tussock with shiny red berries

  • ... that Australian aborigines ground the red berries of the Rough Saw-sedge to make flour?

Created by Casliber (talk), Poyt448 (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 21:25, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

1903 Turkey earthquake

Created by Ceranthor (talk). Nominated by Ceranthor (talk) at 22:55, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Creation date and length are OK. However there are multiple problems with the hook. (1) Inline citation needs to appear in the article directly after the hook rather than (as currently) at the end of the paragraph. (2) The source for the hook is this page from the US Geological Service, and although the USGS would generally be a reliable source, it does not appear that this particular page is intended to be particularly reliable or scholarly. (3) The source doesn't support "more than" 20,000 animals, only "around" 20,000 animals. (4) The fact "listed as one of the world's deadliest earthquakes" does not appear in the article. (5) The source for the "deadliest earthquake" statement appears to be the same USGS page, which doesn't "list" the quake as anything, and merely suggests that in the opinion of USGS it is "one of the world's deadliest earthquakes". Let me know on my talk page if these are addressed and I'll revisit this one. - DustFormsWords (talk) 05:33, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Fixed all but 2. In fact, Quake History is arguably the most reliable resource for less well-known earthquakes of historic times. I think it is a fine resource and there's nothing to indicate that it isn't reliable. USGS is always reliable I have found. ceranthor 21:50, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Gregory Henriquez

Woodwards development W43 tower

5x expanded by Mbtso (talk). Nominated by Fayenatic london (talk) at 18:28, 30 April 2010 (UTC)


Five Daughters

Created by Jim Michael (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 01:13, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Royal Columbian Hospital

Created by Canuckle (talk). Self nom at 22:21, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Iura novit curia

Created by Sandstein (talk). Nominated by Sandstein (talk) at 18:05, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment - I'd favour ALT1 if only because "civil law court" and "court in the civil law system" don't mean the same thing; common law systems can have courts that deal exclusively with the civil law jurisdictions of tort and equity. - DustFormsWords (talk) 12:46, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure I understand your objection. The article doesn't say that the maxim doesn't apply to civil law systems. It just says that the clear-cut distiction "civil law: yes, common law: no" is exaggerated, because the principle is subject to exceptions in the first case and somewhat applies in certain situations in the second case. But that distinction is, I believe, too subtle to encapsulate in a hook.
At any rate, here's a safe but boring hook: "... that where the legal maxim of iura novit curia applies, the parties to a legal dispute do not need to plead or prove the law that applies to their case?"  Sandstein  12:07, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Bykenhulle

A large white two and a half story house with an open porch supported by four columns, topped by a balustrade to form a balcony

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 17:49, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Milecastle 8

Created by Dumelow (talk). Self nom at 23:57, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Date, length and hook check out, so technically it's good to go. I'd comment, though that (a) the article relies almost entirely on a single source, which isn't exactly the most excellent source I've ever seen, and (b) the hook's more than a little dull. - DustFormsWords (talk) 03:20, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Malik Zulu Shabazz

A tall Black man dressed in black

Created by Malik Shabazz (talk). Self nom at 23:33, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

  • I have some WP:BLP concerns with this article as written: a wholly negative opinion is one of the three sentences in the lead. I'm not convinced it should go onto the main page. Pcap ping 19:08, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
CTM. When I wrote the article, I was afraid I was sugar-coating Shabazz. Much of what has been written about him is pretty negative. Even the source that mentions the "Young Lawyer" award prefaces it by saying "Remarkably, in 1998, Shabazz was named 'Young Lawyer of the Year'".
According to WP:LEDE, the opening section "should define the topic, establish context, explain why the subject is interesting or notable, and summarize the most important points—including any notable controversies." Shabazz may be best known for being a racist and an antisemite. If that disqualifies him from being a DYK, so be it. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 19:33, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Oryzomys

A reddish-brown rat on soil with some debris

  • ... that the number of species in the rodent genus Oryzomys (pictured) was reduced from 43 to five in 2006?

5x expanded by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 22:07, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Burnham-on-Sea Low lighthouse, Burnham-on-Sea High Lighthouse, Burnham-on-Sea Round Tower

White wooden lighthouse with red vertical stripe, supported on nine legs

Created by Rodw (talk). Nominated by Rodw (talk) at 20:51, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

ALT1 is fine by me.— Rod 08:53, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Trongsa Dzong

Trongsa Dzong

  • ... that by the 19th century, the penlops, ruling from Trongsa Dzong (pictured), had become so powerful that Trongsa had effectively become the capital of Bhutan, but never officially so?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), John Hill (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 19:36, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

St. John's Catholic Church (Delphos, Ohio)

A stone church with a tall tower against a blue sky

5x expanded by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 13:11, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Date and length check out, and image is appropriately labelled and has appropriate free use rationale, but the hook isn't supported by sources. Specifically, although the sources support that churches in western Ohio are predominantly Gothic Revival, and that St John's is Romanesque revival, there is no inline citation provided for the proposition that St John's is (as the article states) "unique", or (as the hook words it) rare. - DustFormsWords (talk) 08:23, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
  • If most churches in the region are one style, by definition a church of another style must be rare. That's the focus of the hook; it's directly supported by citation 5. The "unique" bit is concentrating on the size of the church and its style together, and it's referenced by citation 2. There's no need to place a citation after a sentence when it and the following sentence are sourced by the same citation, and I really don't see why you believe it to be a significant issue when it's not related to the DYK nomination. Nyttend (talk) 13:50, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Sorry, that's original research, and, more importantly, not logically valid. If 51 out of 100 cars are red, and 49 are blue, then "most cars are red is true" but "blue cars are rare" is not the logical result. Try another hook? As for citations, please see DYK Selection Criterion #3: "The hook fact must be cited in the article with an inline citation, since inline citations are used to support specific statements in an article. The hook fact must have an inline citation right after it since the fact is an extraordinary claim; citing the hook fact at the end of the paragraph is not acceptable." - DustFormsWords (talk) 22:01, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
  • I'm not a fan of that hook, either. A church either is a Cathedral or it is not- the term has nothing to do with architecture and everything to do with whether a Bishop has his cathedra there. Replace "cathedral-like" with "Romanesque Revival" and it would be fine, IMO. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 22:43, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Accepting in good faith that the offline source supports the hook, I can now see no problems with the article and it is good to go. Thanks for your perserverance, Nyttend, and congratulations on another solid article! I've added the final (accepted) wording as ALT1 at the top of the discussion. - DustFormsWords (talk) 03:22, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

De Sweachmermolen, Langweer

Photograph of a smock mill

Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 08:22, 28 April 2010 (UTC)


A.C.E. mixture

Created by Captain-n00dle (talk). Self nom at 19:20, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Would this also be suitable to feature here: Portal:Medicine and/or Portal:Pharmacology? (This made me notice that one of the current DYKs on this portal references a deleted article.) Regards, Captain n00dle\ 11:35, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 27

Cordyline australis

Children swing on ropes dangling from a tall pole

  • ... that New Zealand's indigenous Māori people used the cabbage tree Cordyline australis for food, medicine, and to make strong ropes like those used for morere swings (pictured)?
Cordyline australis flowers

Over 10x expanded by Kahuroa (talk). Nominated by Avenue (talk) at 00:24, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

  • I find the first hook (which I amended to italicise the brackets) much more interesting (especially in conjunction with the picture) than ALT1. It's a shame that one can't see the swing any better in this size picture. Schwede66 06:22, 4 May 2010 (UTC)


Oh Eun-Sun

  • Comment: I have chosen the slightly awkward "was credited" wording because the accomplishment is under dispute. This is just for precautionary reasons, though, as all relevant authorities currently acknowledge the record and the press has widely reported it as having occurred.

5x expanded by ThaddeusB (talk). Self nom at 22:20, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Hadley Richardson

a woman dressed in boots, skirt and cardigan stands in snow facing a man dressed in woolen stockings and a suit

  • ... that Hadley Richardson, Ernest Hemingway's first wife, was actually named Elizabeth Hadley Richardson?

Created/expanded by Truthkeeper88 (talk). Nominated by Truthkeeper88 (talk) at 20:07, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Murphy Nicholas Xavier Pakiam

5x expanded by SMasters (talk). Nominated by SMasters (talk) at 10:02, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Dates, lengths, and sources all look good. The verb quashed however does not fit the facts presented by the article as only a government official has the power to strike down a government ban. The terms overcame or surmounted better fit the archbishop's role as a victorious plaintiff in a legal dispute. --Allen3  19:20, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for taking time to review this. Having re-looked at this, you are right. It is actually the High Court that quashed the ban. I agree with changing it to surmounted. -- S Masters (talk) 22:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Hook changed as indicated above. Good to go. --Allen3  23:58, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Wood Siding railway station

5x expanded by Iridescent (talk). Self nom at 21:46, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

R v Bow Street Metropolitan Stipendiary Magistrate Ex parte Pinochet Ugarte (No.1)

Created by Francium12 (talk). Nominated by Francium12 (talk) at 05:40, 27 April 2010 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on April 26

Joseph M. Breitenbeck

Created by Tajm (talk). Nominated by Morenooso (talk) at 03:13, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Khulda

Ruins of Khulda
Ruins of Khulda

5x expanded by Huldra (talk), Tiamut (talk), Zero0000 (talk). Nominated by Tiamut (talk) at 13:24, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Coronation Street: 40th anniversary live episode

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 01:33, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

  • I know DYK looks for a ref in each paragraph, but lead and plot are not currently referenced. I notice a lead shouldn't be referenced and a lot of film/TV plots are unreferenced. I hope this is all right for DYK. Let me know if it isn't and I'll add some references. Cheers TheRetroGuy (talk) 01:37, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Samuel Thomas Alexander, William Patterson Alexander

old victorian-era man

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Nominated by W Nowicki (talk) at 00:29, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


Roger Pinto Molina

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 02:35, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Well, the obvious, more spicy hook would center around something like "that Bolivian right-wing senator Roger Pinto Molina was accused of involvement in the 2008 Porvenir Massacre?". However, I suppose that would be a bit problematic considering that DYK hooks generally shouldn't focus on negative BLP material. --Soman (talk) 02:52, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Shippen Street (Weehawken)

Created by User:Theornamentalist (User_talk:Theornamentalist). Self nom at 22:23, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment - Re ALT1, there are two problems. One is that the article says "mid to late" rather than late, and the second is that one of the three deaths being counted is an unborn child. Can I propose the following ALT instead? - DustFormsWords (talk) 10:43, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Hoya Saxa

Five shirtless young male adults show off in a crowd with the five letters HOYAS painted in blue across their chests.

  • ... that Hoya Saxa is the Georgetown University school cheer, and has been used by students at sporting events since the 1890s or earlier (students pictured)?

5x expanded by Patrickneil (talk). Self nom at 20:59, 26 April 2010 (UTC)


Danish Society for Nature Conservation

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Nominated by Moonraker2 (talk) at 16:38, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

  • If the circulation were strikingly high, not merely respectable. Bruce Swanson 03:46, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Suggest possible alt hook: ErinM (talk) 19:45, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

That's a better hook, and I've found better citations for it. Moonraker2 (talk) 22:58, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

JD Roberto

actor in ski-jacket, with snow in the background

Created by Hankranker (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 01:16, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Agree, the hook is not mentioned in the article. Also, while the article is technically (just about) long enough, most of it is just names of TV shows and it's not the kind of thing we want to have on the Main Page in my opinion. BigDom 17:28, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 25

Juan Mateos

Gibraltar's Civil Hospital on the site of Mateos' home

Created by Ecemaml (talk), Gibmetal77 (talk). Nominated by Gibmetal77 (talk) at 23:09, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Plagiarism/close paraphrasing issues. An example is from the first sentence of the Gibraltar's first hospital section which reads "In 1567 Mateos underwent a profound change of heart having being affected by the sorry sight of the many ill seamen left stranded in Gibraltar after voyages to the New World (many of whom suffered from a virulent form of syphilis), as well as by the plight of the poor sick of the town.". The corresponding sentence from the cited source reads "Yet in 1567 Mateos seems to have undergone a sudden change of heart, having been particularly affected by the sorry sight of the many sick seamen left stranded in Gibraltar after voyages to the New World as well as by the plight of the poor sick of the town." --Allen3  22:50, 3 May 2010 (UTC)


Hays Hall

Created by GrapedApe (talk). Nominated by GrapedApe (talk) at 04:52, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment This is frankly a pretty dull hook IMO; there must be something better, maybe the fact that it was built in 1901, or that it was the first dormitory of the College. Incidentally, I was baffled by the fact that the article is named Hays Hall and the hall is supposedly named after Rutherford B. Hays, but the name of the building is consistently spelled Hayes Hall in the article. Is there some interesting story there, or just an error? --MelanieN (talk) 23:49, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Actually, it's named after college president George P. Hays. (I fixed the Hayes misspelling, which was my bad).
  • So basically all the information in this article (for example, supposedly named after Rutherford B. Hayes, now corrected to George P. Hays) may or may not be correct - because the entire article is cited to a source which is not available for us to read? We try to WP:assume good faith here, but this seems like kind of a stretch. --MelanieN (talk) 05:29, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
  • I don't know what you're talking about. First, the article NEVER had anything about Rutherford B. Hays. Second, both sources ARE available to read. I have no idea what you're talking about.--GrapedApe (talk) 05:54, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
  • My bad. For some reason the computer I was using last night would not go to the link; it didn't even look like a link. But it's OK on this computer. Sorry. --MelanieN (talk) 14:18, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
  • OK, but that doesn't explain why you said that the article was "supposedly named after Rutherford B. Hayes," which was NEVER the case. Then you implied that one shouldn't assume good faith. What gives?--GrapedApe (talk) 15:08, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Physician to the President

Eleanor Connie Mariano, presidential doctor to U.S Presidents George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

*At any rate, the article needs more in-line citations, especially one after the hook fact. Adm. Mariano's article, while not recent enough to be eligible, is in decent enough shape, and the picture is PD. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 07:55, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
I don't think "essentially" is the looked-for word: it's rather like saying "literally the shadow...".--Wetman (talk) 18:35, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Per discussion above, ALT 1: ... that the Physician to the President (Connie Mariano pictured) is literally the shadow of the President of the United States? - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:12, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Also did my best to address other items mentioned above within in the article. Any help will be appreciated in improving the article further. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:12, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
I think you (AnakngAraw) misunderstood Wetman's point. The Physician to the President is not literally the shadow to the POTUS; only a shadow is a shadow. She is metaphorically a shadow to the POTUS (because she is not actually his shadow, but she follows him closely, much as a shadow does), but I think a whole different phrasing is needed here. cmadler (talk) 12:28, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Open to suggestions. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:19, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
How about a hook on the Physician to the President and the Air Force One operating table? I can't think of the best way to phrase it, but it would spare us the ambiguities of shadow metaphors. Or, if not, consider going with something like "has been called the 'shadow' of the President" (a metaphor is still a metaphor). Personally, I don't think the latter option is the coolest: it may be that thousands of people with hundreds of jobs have been called "shadows" of US Presidents by one voice or another, throughout history. Dahn (talk) 13:56, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
ALT 2, 3, 4 and 5 provided. - AnakngAraw (talk) 04:13, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 24

Baltic states under Soviet rule

Created/expanded by User:Peltimikko (talk). Self nom at 17:14, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

  • The hook facts, as stated, are not backed up by the article. While it does say that Estonia and Latvia "received large-scale immigration of industrial workers for other parts of the Soviet Union" it does not specify Russian immigration. It further points out that in Lithuania "the drop was only 4 percent" which is hardly "massive" in terms of a population shift. Also, this article needs a solid polish by a native speaker of English before it could be promoted. - Dravecky (talk) 03:31, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Gjønnes

  • ... that the school opened at Gjønnes in 2004 was moved from Nadderud, where it had been established in 1958 with the intention of existing only five years?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 22:11, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Staurakios (eunuch)

  • Comment: ALT hook suggestions welcome.

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 13:24, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Carmen González

A female chef preparing food in a kitchen

  • ... that Carmen González made it to the final round of Season 2, Top Chef Masters despite forgetting to include a major component in the final dish of her competing recipe?

Created by Dchiodi (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 04:20, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Note, initially I added a pic, but did not know it was 'fair use' - will try and obtain a 'free' one and add, ASAP.  Chzz  ►  04:24, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Found a pic, and added it above.  Chzz  ►  20:00, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
The article appears to have undergone some substantial reworking, and is now uncategorised, and too short for DYK. The hook fact does not appear in the article, instead it says rather coyly 'In the season premiere, Chef Carmen found herself in an unfortunate situation that almost forced her to forfeit the competition. Luckily, Chef Carmen managed to improvise on the bad luck and ended up earning the top score...' There may be some minor POV issues as well. Benea (talk) 23:06, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Too short (just 934 characters of readable prose text), unresolved COI tag, all references are bare URLs, and there has bee no significant effort to expand or correct this article in the last 10 days. - Dravecky (talk) 03:23, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 23

Stray dogs in Moscow

Created by Adrigon (talk). Nominated by Dream out loud (talk) at 18:55, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

  • The Metro stations part is not directly cited in the article. Also, "whom" refers specifically to humans, so I think the word you're looking for is "which". BigDom 23:46, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
I never realized "whom" refers to only humans, so changing it to "which" would be fine. As for the citation about the metro stations, it was citing in the article in the following sentence, but just for extra clarification I put a citation in both sentences. –Dream out loud (talk) 18:10, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Please research further. 35 thousand quoted by ABC is too low. Where did they get it, Kremlin propaganda? They also say they've neutered 18 thousand ... half of the population? Get real. For those unfamiliar with the situation: not all dogs seen wandering the streets are true "stray dogs". Many have shelter provided by humans but are free to roam at will - are these included? On the other end of the spectrum is a population that evades humans and takes up the role left vacant by wolves (academic paper in Russian). East of Borschov (talk) 23:47, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Interesting topic. The Popsci article does not seem a very useful source, as is itself said to be a summary of the Financial Times article. Why not cite the FT article directly? All cited articles should have complete bibliographical details (author and date are missing). --Hegvald (talk) 07:31, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
  • I don't particularly care for citation templates, but that is a choice one may make. The more important point was: there is no reason to cite a lower-quality source which is nothing but a summary of a better source to which one has access. The best thing would obviously be to find the publications of the expert Andrei Poyarkov and cite those directly, but this is probably too much to expect within the deadline of the DYK. --Hegvald (talk) 04:35, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

Nominations for Victory Day (9 May)

2010 Moscow Victory Day Parade

Logo of the 2010 Moscow Victory Day Parade

5x expanded by Russavia (talk). Nominated by Russavia (talk) at 07:23, 5 May 2010 (UTC)


City of Military Glory

Dmitry Medvedev at the 4 May 2010 award ceremony bestowing the honorary title of City of Military Glory on a number of Russian cities

5x expanded by Russavia (talk). Nominated by Russavia (talk) at 17:35, 6 May 2010 (UTC)



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