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May 22

Music: Why don't notes progress like this: A B C#, D#, F, G ? (or C, D E, F#, G#, A#)?

I've discovered something quite bizarre about music...

I've been researching why it *appears* that there's no E# and B#. And it seems that the explanation is that B# really is C and that E# really is F. And if you sit down and play all 12 semitones in an octave it plays intuitively and makes musical sense. So far so good.

However, looking at a stave or a keyboard, here's where things seem to go horribly wrong.
Looking at a piano, if we start on a 'C' which is a white key, and we ascend playing the white keys, we play C, D, E, which are all **two** semitones apart, but the next key, 'F', is not, so in fact the next logical key is F#, then G# and then A#.
When I in fact play the notes in that order (C, D, E, F#, G#, A#, C..) it sounds right to me.
And yet the conventional order (C, D, E, F..) also sounds right but this could be because it's now ingrained.

Can someone confirm or correct this? And if this is correct, is anyone aware of any movements to restructure musical nomenclature so that it's more 'correct'? Rfwoolf (talk) 00:09, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

What you have discovered is a whole tone scale. That set of pitches is not a "conventional" scale as per the traditional set of scale modes (ionian, dorian, phrygian, lydian, mixolydian, aeolian, locrian). Instead, it is an altered scale. From an entirely scalar perspective, here is an attempt to explain the reason modes are the preferred method of organizing pitches. Part of the reason that not every interval is two semitones apart is that the single semitone allows for some degree of tension and resolution. For example, when playing an ionian (aka major) scale, the "ti" and "do" drive some degree of resolution. In the key of C major, (C D E F G A B C) there is a drive for resolution moving from B to C. That drive for resolution is what makes a major scale sound "normal." That is the reason some of the intervals are just a half-step (one semitone) while others are whole-steps (two semitones). The whole tone scalefudged which you speak of doesn't have that same sense of tension and resolution.

From a chord based perspective, an ionan (or other modal) scale creates a major chord (in tonic position), which is a stable chord. The whole tone scale, however, will create an augmented chord. This type of chord is far more unstable and doesn't sound nicely on the ears. On a related note, a diminished scale (which alternates half step, whole step, half step, whole step, etc.) lines up to create a fully diminished 7 chord, which is also extremely unstable and not pleasing to the ears.

As far as I am aware (and I am a musician of over a decade with very strong classical music theory training) there is no movement to speak of to change this musical nomenclature simply because the major scale and its modes are simply the most natural way to hear a set of pitches, where the whole tone scale doesn't quite sit nicely on the ears.

I'm afraid this may come off as rambly and unhelpful. Hopefully, I was able to answer your question. If not, I hope I was at least able to give you or another reference desk associate a starting point to work from. 99.53.113.16 (talk) 03:08, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Does the Janko keyboard count as a movement towards restructuring? It's rationally, symmetrically arranged without bias towards a particular scale. The top row goes A, B, C#, D#, F, G and the second row down (yes, the keyboard has rows) goes C, D, E, F#, G#, A#. Nothing to do with renaming the notes, though.81.131.69.118 (talk) 13:57, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Also, modern instruments are tuned to equal temperament. The problem is that harmonically, if you tune an insturment for perfect harmonics, 12 semitones doesn't equal a perfect octave; it's off by about a quarter tone. For instruments like the violin, this isn't a problem; you just play the note that fits harminically with what you are playing. For a piano, this is a BIG problem, since if you tuned the strings to play harmonically perfect in one key, it doesn't work in any other key. To make instruments playable, they have to be "tempered", that is the little differences between the harmonically perfect semitones and the octave has to fudged out somehow. Harmonically speaking, a B# is NOT identical to a C; it just works out that way in equal temperament. Older instruments were tuned to different tempering schemes such as meantone temperament, which was organized a bit differently. --Jayron32 04:06, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Slightly off-topic, and it certainly doesn't constitute a movement towards a new nomenclature, but the keyboard of a chromatic button accordion is arranged without the diatonic asymmetry of a standard piano keyboard layout. See also the article on diatonic and chromatic. (The composer Francis Lai had the keyboards of his electronic synthesizers laid out like a chromatic button accordion).

The unit cent somewhat ignores the tonal hierarchy dictated by Western nomenclature, but its main use is to compare different tuning systems, especially those outside Western tonality.

One movement that attempted to break through the standard tonal hierarchy was that of the dodecaphonists, but I am not aware of any changes of nomenclature within the twelve-tone movement either. They still used the same musical notation and nomenclature.

Finally, see also this archived question, somewhat related and linking some of the ideas and concepts mentioned by 99.53. ---Sluzzelin talk 08:24, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Identify this song

I have been trying to figure out the band that plays this song for years. The song is from the documentary Cracker Crazy: The Invisible History of The Sunshine State (http://www.nothingofficial.com/video/70660/Cracker-Crazy-The-Invisible-History-of-The-Sunshine-State). The song starts at exactly 40:21.

Can someone *please* figure out who made this song? The credits at the end say nothing, the web site says nothing. It's not from the "excerpts of the Florida folklife collection" as it states in the credits at the end of the movie. This song is obviously modern. Another song from the same band plays through the end credits but I am just trying to find out who these people are.

PLEASE help me find this band, it's been bothering me for a long time. And their songs are pretty amazing. PLEASE use all of your resources to help me!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.245.26.46 (talk) 06:54, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it's just me, but the video says it's disabled for embedding and the youtube frame is not the regular one with the menu button so I can't even get the direct youtube address from it. Do you have a youtube html for it? All I could find on youtube was the trailer for the movie, not the movie itself. TomorrowTime (talk) 07:35, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

When was this "Cracker Crazy" video made? I listened to the lyrics and put a few of the phrases into Google. Most of my searches turned up crap but this one yielded a single hit which was to this site. The page mentions a Brad Postlethwaite who is a member of Snowglobe. It says that those line belongs to a song on an album called Welcome to the Occupation. That's all I could come up with but I'm not even sure it's the same song that is being talked about. Dismas| 07:52, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Got it! The song is called "Leaves" and it is on the album I mentioned, Welcome to the Occupation by Postlethwaite. Dismas| 07:59, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you SO much! You have no idea how frustrating trying to find out who that guy was. I will also have to check out Snowglobe. As to the person who couldn't view the video, I'm not sure why that video isn't working for you. Please do check it out though because it's a great documentary. Thanks again!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.245.26.46 (talk) 14:18, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

You're most welcome. Glad I could help. Dismas| 23:24, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Nas Untitled album sales :)

Hello everybody ! Maybe could someone edit a Nas (rapper) topic and tell what are the newest sales of his last album Untitled ? Thanks a lot, much love ") —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ernutis (talk • contribs) 08:40, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Chris Foss Asimov artwork

Do any of Chris Foss' artworks for Asimov books have any correlation with the plots of the books he's done the art for? I know that was a confusing sentence, but I was just wondering.--Editor510 09:01, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

The Chris Foss article says "These images are suggestive of science fiction in general rather than depictions of specific scenes from books, and therefore can be—and have been—used interchangeably on book covers." I also read pretty much the same thing elsewhere, that Chris Foss' artwork was chosen by the publishers to attract the buying public, rather than having any correlation with plot elements. Astronaut (talk) 10:22, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Foss' artwork for Asimov's books almost never reflected the content, but an argument could be made for the Foundation series, which usually featured generic spaceships. However, I think anyone would be hard pressed to find a link between The Caves of Steel and Foss' mutant guitar thingy (one of my favourites). Steve  23:58, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Nike Commercial

What are those new Nike shoes for men that as the commercial where they are showing girls in short leg clothing (such as mini skirts, short shorts, bikinis) in serving, cleaning a house, etc., while they are dancing? The song is playing through out and is the only audio. At the end, a man walks by a girl on the beach and a narrator says "Also available for men" or something like that. This is for Nike. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.3.123.220 (talk) 09:51, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Complete guess - Nike Air? (I fixed your link) Chevymontecarlo 19:56, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Its actually not Nike, its a Reebok shoe called.... the EasyTone. Is there anything in specific you'd like to know about it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SugarTitön (talk • contribs) 18:28, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

The New Pornographers

At a TNP gig in Berlin, the lineup included 2 women - one was Kathryn Calder, but the other wasn't Neko Case - any clues who this might be? She was on backup vocals and tambourine duties for the most part. Who is she? Aaadddaaammm (talk) 09:57, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

True Blood closing credits music

What was the blues song playing with the closing credits to last week's finale of True Blood in the UK? I'm almost certain I heard the same song in a music programme (probably on Sky Arts) within the past few weeks, so it sounded really familiar and I'm thinking perhaps it was by B.B. King or another well known blues artist. Astronaut (talk) 10:35, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

If it was the season 2 finale Beyond Here Lies Nothin' (True Blood) then it is a Bob Dylan song of the same name apparently. meltBanana 12:02, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that's it. No wonder it sounded familiar, I was playing theTogether Through Life album in the car recently. Astronaut (talk) 18:42, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Sci-Fi movie help

Require help in identifying a film about a dystopian future where there is no vegetation, and there is a very poor quality of life, and every man and woman has a device plugged in their hand that “told them how many years, months, days and even hours and minutes they have left until they die. When the counter reachs zero, they REALLY die. Another particularity about this film is the fact that the society uses time (lifetime) as a currency. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.102.43.237 (talk) 14:33, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Logan's Run comes to mind but doesn't sound quite right. I know I've seen it though. Dismas| 15:47, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't ring a bell, but take a look at Category:Dystopian films and see if it's in there. Astronaut (talk) 18:45, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Logan's Run involves devices in the hand that tell you how long you have to live, but beyond that it doesn't fit (you can't trade life and the quality of life is very high and kept so by not letting anyone get old so the population is kept low). I don't recognise the description. --Tango (talk) 21:31, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

No Blade of Grass? Everard Proudfoot (talk) 21:07, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

There's no grass in that future but there is vegetation – and no technological infrastructure for the scheme described. —Tamfang (talk) 07:20, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, but it's neither of the above mentioned titles; and i've gone through the entire list of dystopian films on wikipedia, and none of them match. Maybe this might help: The main scene I remember was this guy in a casino, and he’s freaking out b/c he’s losing, and he tries to buy a drink from a hostess, but when she swipes his device, it doesn’t go through. She says “this one’s on the house….you’re dead”, and the guy drops dead. There’s this other guy in the movie who’s mother ran a store, and she never checked how many credits she had, and she was always helping people out. When he finally made her check, they realized that she only had a few weeks to live, so he sets off on this journey to find some forbidden city where there are some people who can give him permission to give his credits to his mother. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.102.43.237 (talk) 10:38, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

I remember the same concept from a short story in (i think) Playboy in the Seventies, titled "Time Is Money", but the plot is not similar. —Tamfang (talk) 07:20, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

How about a 1987 film called "The Price Of Life"? It doesn't seem to be in Misplaced Pages but I found it on IMDB http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0366919/ MorganaFiolett (talk) 15:11, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

early video games

What was the Outer Space video game that was built into a coffee table in a darkened lounge? I feel positive that this was in the mid-to-late 60's. It was the first game I had ever seen. Please help me find out what it is. I read the History of Video games and that does not help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.218.24.90 (talk) 18:38, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

A number of early video games were available in a table cabinet, with the screen under a glass table top and the controls in a slot under the table. I played several in pubs in the late 70's and early 80's, including Space Invaders, Pac-Man, Defender and Asteroids. If none of those help, maybe the timeline of video arcade game history will point you in the right direction. Astronaut (talk) 18:55, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

This style of arcade machine was called a cocktail table. While games (such as Atari's Warlords) that featured a cocktail mode have this detailed in their infobox, there doesn't seem to be a specific category of cocktail mode games that I can point you to. On the off chance that you're thinking of Space Wars, it seems it was only available in the normal upright form factor. -- Finlay McWalter • Talk 19:01, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

May 23

Beatles songs without Beatles playing, or only one playing

I want to make a complete list of all Beatles songs in which either:

a) none of the Beatles plays an instrument, or

b) only one plays an instrument AND that one is also the lead singer.

By "Beatles songs" I mean the official "non-solo" Beatle releases from 1962-1970, and no bootlegs or concerts or radio shows or "Anthology" material, etc.

I doubt if the list would be longer than twenty songs, so I thought perhaps the whole thing could be compiled right here by contributors to the ref desk.

Examples would include "Yesterday" (Paul sings and plays guitar; no other Beatle plays an instrument, but studio musicians appear) or "Julia" (John sings and plays guitar and no one else appears at all) or "The Inner Light" (George sings the main vocal but Paul/John sing harmony, in this case briefly; I can't remember if George plays an instrument, but the others definitely don't) or "She's Leaving Home" (Paul sings the lead, John and maybe George sing back-up, no Beatle plays an instrument). Examples would NOT include, e.g., "Ballad of John and Yoko" (both John and Paul play instruments though the other two do not).

I'll start: Yesterday, Julia, The Inner Light, She's Leaving Home, Within You Without You, Eleanor Rigby, Wild Honey Pie, Why Don't We Do It In The Road. 63.17.50.130 (talk) 01:38, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Many of the white album songs qualify. Also some from their other later works. The one called Your Majesty comes to mind. I think there's a book, maybe by Mark Lewisohn, that has detailed session notes that might provide that info comprehensively. Also, what about early stuff where Pete Best was the session drummer instead of Ringo? Does that count? ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 02:18, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Actually, its more likely that the later material would fit the OPs requirements. The early material was pretty much recorded by the band together; Please Please Me was recorded in a single day, and the band played live together. In most of the last half of their career, the songs were pretty much Paul or John or George solo songs with the other Beatles, along with others, acting as session musicians. Additionally, other than the Tony Sheridan backing band stuff, Pete Best didn't really record on any of the official Beatles releases. Between the firing of Pete Best and the arrival of Ringo Starr, a few songs were recorded with Andy White on drums as a stop-gap; they had to use their studio time and Ringo, who had been hired, couldn't get down in time from Liverpool where he had been playing with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes or some such. Also, they played about half a dozen live dates in Australia with Jimmy Nichol on drums as Ringo had the flu. --Jayron32 03:55, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Jayron. Andy White appeared on one or at most two songs in September 1962 because George Martin was unhappy with Ringo's playing; Ringo was there at the time (having joined the band in August). But, just so this doesn't get confusing: I am NOT referring to cases where someone else played with the Beatles, except when that fits the two conditions above (no Beatle plays an instrument, or exactly one Beatle plays an instrument AND is the lead singer). 63.17.51.102 (talk) 04:03, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Did any Beatle play on Good Night? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 04:53, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

So far we have Yesterday, Julia, The Inner Light, She's Leaving Home, Within You Without You, Eleanor Rigby, Wild Honey Pie, Why Don't We Do It In The Road, Her Majesty, and Good Night. I'll add Love You To, which makes eleven. Anybody? 63.17.51.222 (talk) 06:54, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Blackbird seems to fit the criteria. 87.81.230.195 (talk) 08:56, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Aside from the Mark Lewisohn book already mentioned, "Revolution in the Head" by Ian MacDonald also has personnel info. Another one is "Mother Nature's Son", since Paul is apparently also playing the drums there. "Why Don't We Do It In The Road" has Ringo on drums though. How about Revolution 9? (Unless contributing tape loops counts as "playing an instrument".) What about the instrumental songs on Yellow Submarine? Those are "Beatles songs" in the sense that they are on an official Beatles album, but the Beatles themselves had nothing to do with them. Adam Bishop (talk) 13:19, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks 87 and Adam -- "Why Don't We Do It In the Road" does indeed have a Ringo overdub, someting I'd forgotten. I don't think anybody considers the Yellow Submarine soundtrack "Beatles songs," though. So subtract "Do It" and add Blackbird and Mother Nature's Son. That's twelve. If Revolution 9 can be considered a "song," it's thirteen. How about Across the Universe? Was anybody but John on that? If not, that's 14. 63.17.65.67 (talk) 06:31, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Apparently they're all playing on that one, according to the article. We have articles about every Beatles song, and I believe all the articles have personnel info (from Lewisohn and/or MacDonald), so you could go through them all (although aside from Yesterday nothing would fit until the Sgt. Pepper album). Martha My Dear also fits. Adam Bishop (talk) 13:37, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Re Martha My Dear, only provided you don't count the 14-piece backing orchestra. 87.81.230.195 (talk) 16:10, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

That is allowed according to to 63.17's criteria, and we've already accepted Within You Without You and She's Leaving Home, etc. Adam Bishop (talk) 18:58, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

What about "Because"? Or does John (on guitar) not count as a lead singer for that one? Powers 20:48, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Paul plays bass and George plays synthesizer on that one. Adam Bishop (talk) 21:19, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

OK: Yesterday, Julia, The Inner Light, She's Leaving Home, Within You Without You, Eleanor Rigby, Wild Honey Pie, Her Majesty, Good Night, Love You To, Blackbird, Mother Nature's Son, Martha My Dear ... and (perennial outlier) Revolution 9

When I listen to "Across the Universe" on "Let It Be ... Naked" (which in terms of instrumentation is pretty much the same as the "World Wildlife Federation" aka "Rarities" version, which I would include in the 1962-1970 releases but which I don't own) I hear only Lennon's two ("double-tracked") acoustic guitars put through flangers or Leslie speakers or something (producing distorted harmonics and overtones that sound like "drone" chords); I definitely do NOT hear drums or bass guitar, though there's a drone that might be keyboards or an electric guitar ... Any Beatle experts on this one? Where is there something other than weirdly recorded double-tracked acoustic guitars on the stripped-down "Across the Universe"? 63.17.49.62 (talk) 03:48, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

The Across the Universe article is probably the best place to look, since it has details about the various versions. I was a little too hasty in my previous answer that they are all playing, because it is probably only John (and possibly George) on the versions that were actually released. Adam Bishop (talk) 06:14, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Although sourced, the Across the Universe article is wrong. For example, there are no maracas or piano on the World Wildlife track. Also, "Love you To" is said to have "tambourine" by Ringo. The tambourine is by George, and the presence of a tamboura, so noted on the logs, was mis-read by the archivists as a second tambourine arbitrarily credited to Ringo. 63.17.33.231 (talk) 12:15, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

The book Beatlesongs by (iirc) Mark Dowling has the data sought, for each song. —Tamfang (talk) 07:24, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Steelgod

In the Emerald Sword Saga by Rhapsody of Fire, what is a steelgod? NeonMerlin 07:11, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Moi, ma cheval, ma campagne??

When me and Wanda were in France about six months ago, there was a song on the radio in french, the words of which were something like this: "Moi, ma cheval, et ma campagne"? I think that's it. It might not be "campagne", but definately it was something like that - perhaps me, my horse and my country / the countryside"? Does anyone know what this song is? Many thanks Artie&Wanda (talk) 19:36, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't it be mon cheval? 24.189.90.68 (talk) 19:38, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

I googled the lyrics in both English and French Google, and they keep turning up results for a country-western song called Mon Cheval est Mors (My Horse is Dead) by a French Canadian singer named Paul Brunelle, but it does not contain the lyrics you mentioned. 24.189.90.68 (talk) 19:51, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

You have no idea how happy it makes me to know that there's a French-Canadian country and western song called Mon Cheval est Mors. I just hope the horse ran off with the singer's wife before it died, that would be perfect :) DuncanHill (talk) 19:58, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

That would indeed be badass if that happened, but the guy just keeps lamenting his horse's death in the song. 24.189.90.68 (talk) 21:39, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Pure guesswork here, but in "Heureux qui comme Ulysse" Georges Brassens sings about "mon cheval, ma Provence, et moi". If you google it, you will get a youtube link, where you can listen to the chanson. ---Sluzzelin talk 06:17, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Could the mystery word be compagne (feminine 'companion' as in La Marseillaise)? —Tamfang (talk) 07:25, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Something wrong with my NFS Carbon game

I'm playing my Need For Speed: Carbon game on my computer, but when I started playing, all the cars lost all of their textures and skins, including traffic and police cars. So basically, every car that I see is pretty much a black, moving silhouette. Furthermore, the menu repeatedly puts up the message "Can't connect to EA Nation!". What's wrong here and how can I fix it?

Also, what does the term "cracking the game" mean? 64.75.158.194 (talk) 21:53, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Software cracking; basically 'sneaking' past the game's protection. HalfShadow 22:04, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Halfshadow. Okay... now the top half of every police car is missing... the cops look like they are driving go-carts, heh heh... I'd like to know a possible solution to my problem very soon! 64.75.158.199 (talk) 06:24, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

First thing I would do is uninstall and reinstall the software. The message suggests to me that you need to complete an on-line registration.--Shantavira| 08:41, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

I already tried that, tens of times. They always end up the same. So... yeah, that ain't workin'. 64.75.158.194 (talk) 09:52, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Is your PC running Windows Vista? There appears to be some problems playing this game on Vista. I can also think of a couple of other potential problems: the game is a few years old now so maybe EA no longer support it (check out EA's website); I assume your PC meets the minimum spec for the game and the game is a genuine version rather than some ripoff you downloaded from somewhere (the download could very well be corrupted and full of malware). Astronaut (talk) 11:30, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, if that is the case, a tip - never use pirate sites, you can never 100% trust them. Chevymontecarlo 15:19, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

@Astronaut: My system is Windows XP, and it has more than met the minimum requirements needed. @Chevymontecarlo: Yes, it is a genuine, store-bought, collector's version of the game (the cover picture is that of a Mitsubishi Lancer overlooking the city atop the canyon, am I right?), and not downloaded. My internet connection is far too slow to handle most downloads anyway! I guess I'll send a screenshot later for you guys to see. 64.75.158.193 (talk) 00:57, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Alright, screenshots:

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/145/7/4/nfs_carbon_error_1_by_pratfall.jpg http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/145/b/2/nfs_carbon_error_2_by_pratfall.jpg http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/145/5/8/nfs_carbon_error_3_by_pratfall.jpg 64.75.158.195 (talk) 02:16, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Just curious, do you get the same black silhouette problem if you drive in daylight? Astronaut (talk) 12:28, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

...Whehh??? NFS Carbon doesn't have daylight! But yes, the black silhouettes always appear on all vehicles, no matter what the lighting is, and the cops still look like they are driving go-carts. Its kind of funny, actually. 64.75.158.199 (talk) 00:44, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

It looks like it might be some sort of shader failure, but I don't know what would cause that if your video card matches the minimum requirements for the game. If there are any graphics options for shaders or "advanced effects" or something try turning them off. (This has probably already occurred to you.) You might also make sure you're using current video drivers. APL (talk) 22:46, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry APL, but that option, I have already tried. Thanks anyway. My video drivers are pretty decent, they have no problem running the game at high resolution. It's the loss of vehicle textures that I'm worried about. 64.75.158.195 (talk) 06:52, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

May 24

Touhoumon

Where can I download the most recent English version of Touhoumon? --70.129.186.243 (talk) 01:35, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

What is this public domain song

I've heard this song mostly from Xenosaga, the PS2 game, so I gave a youtube link with it. I've heard it's in the public domain and I know it's been in several movies, on SNL, and on South Park. Anyone know what it's originally from, or at least what it's really called. In Xenosaga, they call it the Song of Nephilim, but surely it normally goes by a different name. Thanks!  ?EVAUNIT 01:53, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

From all I could tell from my online search, it is originally from Xenosaga, Episode I, Disc 2, and was composed by Yasunori Mitsuda. See also Music of the Xenosaga series. The only title I found is, in fact, "Song of Nephilim". A lot of his work sounds "borrowed" from all sorts of places in music history, whether consciously or not, so perhaps it is possible that you heard something similar, yet different, elsewhere? ---Sluzzelin talk 06:07, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Apparently, it's heard in the 1999 movie End of Days (film), before Xenosaga came out...hmm.... 69.207.132.170 (talk) 07:57, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

I read that comment too, so now I listened to the theme of End of Days. While there is an uncanny resemblance to this uncanny music, and the first three notes are indeed identical, the fourth note is a semitone lower in Xenosaga. (The first four notes of The End of Days 's main theme also happen to be identical to the first four notes of "My Heart Belongs to Daddy", but I doubt John Debney had Cole Porter in mind when he composed the score). It is true that this type of eerie soprano-over-strings music with a religious touch has become a cliché in movies (possibly even eerier when sung by a boy soprano); I'm assuming the South Park and SNL version mentioned are parodies of it. I can't put my finger on where the type orginates, but I am sure it goes back decades at least. Interesting question though. ---Sluzzelin talk 10:30, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

It reminded me of the spooky music from Children of the Corn, which has been referenced in South Park at least once. 98.226.122.10 (talk) 23:10, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Medal of Honor: Underground

Does anyone happen to know (at least partially) what missions does Manon Batiste perform in the first-person shooter game Medal of Honor: Underground? I'd like to put a list of missions into the article, but unfortunately I don't have the game and am not familiar with it. Thanks in advance! 67.170.215.166 (talk) 06:18, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

A walkthrough may, or may not, have the information you need. 212.219.39.146 (talk) 08:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much, some of the walkthroughs were very informative. I'm planning to put some of the info (i.e. missions with objectives and action highlights) into the article some time in the next few days. 67.170.215.166 (talk) 05:44, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

May 25

songs

whats the name of the different songs in this vid it states the singer but not the song names. i need the 2nd and last song names the most. link is nsfw

http://theync.com/media.php?name=15289-tits —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom12350 (talk • contribs) 01:35, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

The first two are "Boys (Summertime Love)" and "I Surrender (To the Spirit of the Night)". but I have no idea what the other ones are. --jh51681 (talk) 03:22, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

whats the last song called —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom12350 (talk • contribs) 05:25, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

When I clicked the link, my computer got flooded with weblinks opening all over the place (I don't know what this is called, but I am sure most of you have experienced this at some point too). Moreover, from what I could see before I had to shut down my browser, it didn't look safe for viewing at one's workplace. Just a warning, not trying to censor anything. ---Sluzzelin talk 08:40, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

I now saw that Tom12350 had included "link is nsfw" in his post. (If only I had recognized that initialism :-). ---Sluzzelin talk 08:58, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Star Trek Augments

I know I read somewhere the latin name for the Augments from Star Trek (e.g. Khan Noonien Singh). I know it was homo sapien (something). Can anyone help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.250.117.26 (talk) 01:41, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't think there is any such name in Star Trek canon. If there was, it would almost certainly be mentioned here. --Tango (talk) 02:25, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps it is in one of the novels (which are non-canon, of course). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.250.117.26 (talk) 05:00, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Recent Criminal Minds episode

I recently watched the Criminal Minds episode where there was a guy who transmitted live strangulations over the net. One suspect was an older guy who sold the unsub a refridgeration unit (where the murderer stored the bodies). Although I have watched and rewatched the episode, I can't figure out what the old guy did or what his connection was. Rossi (the FBI agent) was adament that there was a connection. Can anyone help me figure out what the old guy did wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.250.117.26 (talk) 01:44, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

time space dimension is curved

Most people think about travelling with speed of light,if we closely observe Theory of relativity by einstein where he said that gravity is force which is created by displacement by masses in time space dimension.And now coming to topic where most think wormhole is best way to by speed of light or move one place to anthour place in less time,but to travel that way the start and end point should be connected which completes the cycle because of which can draw to conclusions that it is cylinderical or sperical.But this conclusions has some problems which I can think such as we can't travel into past and after certain period we end up where we begin. The possible solution is it has to be helical in shape,with its two ends representing start and end of universe,telling that its ends the way it has begin.And the displacement in dimension may due the energy possesed by masses,unlike only by its mass.And as time passes by,energy of the mass is dispersed to surrounding. if we combine mechanics and dynamics we may be able find amount of energy required for wormhole or minimum mass required for formation of black hole.Sciencesri (talk) 08:07, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

The Science desk is that way... Dismas| 08:10, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

That's ok, the post contains more entertaining content than it does actual science. Not quite Time Cube level, but I can't see a question in there to try to answer, anyway. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 05:51, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Beatles interview

I remember a Beatles interview in which a female American reporter made a really stupid comment which went something like this: "Well you all have haircuts and play a guitar". Does anyone know when and where this interview took place and to which Beatle the remark was addressed? Thank you.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:18, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Probably an early one, like when they first arrived in 1964. I thought it was at the press conference at JFK when they landed, and there are lots of questions about their hair, but nothing like that specifically. You can read it here, and any of their other interviews at BeatlesInterviews.org. Adam Bishop (talk) 19:23, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Adam, I'll take a look at the site you listed here. I just happened to recall it might have come from that documentary British Rock.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:30, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

I can remember another female interviewer asking one of them: "Well which Beedle are you, honey?". Again, I think it might come from British Rock.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:33, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

There was a press conference early in the Beatles' career where a reported asked them, "What do you call that haircut?" George's answer was, "Arthur." Everard Proudfoot (talk) 21:03, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

No, I am pretty sure that was a scene from A Hard Day's Night (film) and not an actual press conference. Lots of the "Beetles acting cheeky at a press conference in black and white" you see in little clips was actually from the same scene. While the Beetles had their cheeky moments, I am not sure that anything quite so drole ever occurred spontaneously in actual press conferences. --Jayron32 01:23, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

The one at JFK that I linked to has "Can any of you actually sing?" and John says "No, we need money first". That's better than anything in Hard Day's Night! Adam Bishop (talk) 12:15, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

I like the interview when John is asked why he thought the Beatles were more successful than their fellow Liverpudlian bands, and George butted in: "Because we got a record contract".--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:08, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Film ID

If someone can help me identify this film for me it'd be great:

It was Japanese, I think. An animation, sort of like Manga. It was centred around a young girl whose family and eventually the people around them turn really weird and then she has to go to a castle somewhere to meet an elder to ask for help. It was set in present-day Japan I think, and it was broadcast on British TV a couple of years ago. It's really stuck in my mind and if anyone can help that would be really great! Thanks! Chevymontecarlo 18:55, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Howl's Moving Castle? DuncanHill (talk) 19:10, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

It might've been - it sounds familiar in places but I do not recognise other parts of the plot. Does anyone else have any other guesses? Thanks DuncanHill, but I am still not sure - if no one else has a guess or suggestion then I'll go with that film because there's so little I can remember about it. There was another thing though - there was a prominent scene in a washing-room of some kind, a market and a place where lots of people were eating, but because everyone around the girl had changed they were eating really gross food and their faces were all mangled... A bit vague but I promise that's all I can remember! Chevymontecarlo 20:41, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

That's exactly Howl's Moving Castle. Her relatives eat at some public stand, and they're transformed into pigs. There is also a lengthy washroom laundry sequence. -- Finlay McWalter • Talk 20:48, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

That scene you describe is from Spirited Away, actually...--Leon (talk) 21:56, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

D'oh! You're right, they seem to have blended together in my limited brain. -- Finlay McWalter • Talk 22:02, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like Spirited Away to me. Astronaut (talk) 12:22, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

You guys are great! Thanks a lot! Chevymontecarlo 15:26, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

May 26

NCIS music

NCIS: Season 3, Episode 2, "Kill Ari (2)": at the end of the cemetery scene as the team was leaving Kate's burial service, Abby turns on her "mini" boom box to play a "traditional" New Orleans funeral anthem (link @ 21:50). Can someone identify the song/artist? hydnjo (talk) 02:23, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Never mind, found it here. hydnjo (talk) 22:20, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Australian conscription

what were many reasons why Australian anglican Church members wanted conscription in 1916? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tayla-paytton (talk • contribs) 10:44, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

You want many reasons? That sounds like a homework question to me. We don't do homework here. And this question belongs on the Humanities desk in any event, as it's not remotely about Entertainment. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 12:19, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Solid ties with Britain: . I found this by typing Australian Anglican Church Conscription in Google (see here) and this was the first thing that popped up. Buddy431 (talk) 04:19, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Science fiction movie

I've been trying to remember a science fiction film I saw many years ago about a group of scientists who travel through what I think was alternative universes only to find that time there runs at a different rate. They spend much of the film trying to return home. I vaguely recall the ending where they believe they have managed to find themselves back in their own universe only to see themselves as they were just before they started traveling and moving so slowly it was hardly noticeable. I think the film was black & white and I haven't seen it for nigh on 40 years. Occasionally over the years I've thought of this film and never been able to remember the name. Any help would be appreciated. Jack forbes (talk) 10:47, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

The plot doesnt sound familiar but we do have a category on time travel films (which I have had no luck wikilinking). Any luck browsing there? Livewireo (talk) 14:22, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Category:Time travel films -- Finlay McWalter • Talk 14:33, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like Journey to the Center of Time, or perhaps its inspiration, The Time Travelers. Neither is in b&w, though. Deor (talk) 15:21, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Wohoo! Thanks guys for all your help. It was the time travelers 1964 film. And it was in colour? The mind can play tricks over time. Years and years of scratching my head is now over. I probably didn't get the plot right but you came through for me anyway. Thanks again. Jack forbes (talk) 17:11, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I've gone for many years thinking that certain color films were shot in black and white, simply because I first saw them on a b&w TV and never saw them in color until much later. Deor (talk) 17:42, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

That makes sense, Deor. I would have seen it in black & white all those years ago. Jack forbes (talk) 17:55, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Throwing in cricket

Having trouble visualising Throwing (cricket), I went to Google Video and found this example. Now I understand the way that it's done, but the article confuses me more — throwing is "when a bowler straightens their arm by more than 15 degrees when delivering the ball", but in the video, the bowler's arm is significantly straighter on the legal delivery than on the throw. What am I missing here? As an aside, what is "Lords"? I noticed that this name was mentioned when the video was showing a group of dignified men; had the British House of Lords become involved in cricket? Nyttend (talk) 13:19, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

For the easy part: Lord's is Lord's Cricket Ground. The dignified men may be members of the MCC. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 13:22, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

The arm should be straight when the ball is bowled. Throwing is when the arm is straightened during the delivery. Warofdreams talk 14:11, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Imagine an arm with no elbow - the intention is for the bowler to bowl with a perfectly straight arm, rather than using any angular momntum from the elbow to propel the ball. To me, the confusion is over the reference in the article to "when a bowler straightens their arm by more than 15 degrees", when it should surely be "flexes their arm by more than 15 degrees" - but I'm no expert on cricket rules (and was even less expert at playing it). Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:00, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I too am confused by the wording. I've left much the same comment as Ghmyrtle's struck-out sentence, on the article's talk page. Astronaut (talk) 15:42, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I've responded there. Try throwing something - your arm moves from being angled at the elbow, to being straight. Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:42, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

This summary is quite useful, and its images might help clarify - you can see the bowler's arm straighten through the delivery. Warofdreams talk 15:46, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the input! Until I read this article, I'd imagined that cricket bowling was underhanded, using a motion similar to that used in ten-pin bowling. Nyttend (talk) 21:00, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Underarm bowling in cricket is was until recently within the rules, but highly unusual in the modern game. Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:02, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Bowling underarm was considered underhand even when it was legal, at least at elite level. Hence the huge brouhaha over the Underarm bowling incident of 1981. -- 202.142.129.66 (talk) 05:05, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

And the reason for the value of 15 degrees is that at 15 degrees the arm-straightening becomes visually apparent. There's no use choosing a value which is too small for the human eye (i.e. the spectators and especially the umpire (cricket)) to detect. Some recent notable bowlers who have had problems with throwing: Brett Lee, Shoaib Akhtar (both fast bowlers), Johan Botha and the double-jointed Muttiah Muralitaran (both spin bowlers). Usually when the problem arises the bowler gets bundled off to a facility (I think it's in Australia) where they stick a few sensors on his arm and measure his bowling action. Johan Botha in particular was banned from bowling his doosra (which spins opposite to the usual delivery) because his action for that particular delivery was illegal. Zunaid 09:44, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Nickelodeon st u i d o address.

Do you know the Address of nick st u i do? Thank you , Kurtis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.0.112.11 (talk) 19:15, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

If you mean an E-mail address - usually people like that don't usually disclose their Email address, just to avoid the amount of spam/hate mail that they may get. There may be an Email address in place specifically for fan mail, though, so I'm hoping someone else might have more details if that is the case. If you mean a physical address - that is even less likely to have been disclosed. The dangers of that are obvious. However, like with an Email address, there may be a physical address specifically for fan mail/correspondence etc. Someone else hopefully should be able to help you with that, as I have no clue. Sorry about that. Chevymontecarlo 19:48, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Their contact details appear to be here. Warofdreams talk 20:52, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

According to our article on Nickelodeon Studios, it no longer exists. It was closed in 2005. — Michael J 18:04, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

May 27

Obsession, with a strange pastime

In the film Ossessione, at 32 minutes (when Giovanna asks Gino to turn back), we see in the background about twenty people in a rectangular space, as big as a basketball court; and a few of them appear to be flinging sand at each other with shovels. (If I were watching it in Blu-Ray maybe I could say more accurately what they're doing.) If you know the scene I mean, can you say what the heck is going on? —Tamfang (talk) 05:23, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Here's a video. Sowing seeds maybe? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.171.56.13 (talk) 09:56, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Winnowing? - that is, tossing harvested cereal crops into the air to separate the grain from the chaff. There is what looks to me to be a similar activity in this clip. Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:33, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Super smart singers, sirens, and such

While reading the Dexter Holland article, I was a bit surprised to see that he has his Master's and was working on his PhD when he got into music. (Yeah, I know, I'm suffering from a stereotype that popular musicians aren't necessarily book-smart. I'm okay with that.  :-) ) So, I wondered who else was rather learned. The following I know off the top of my head:

• Brian May has a PhD in astrophysics.
• Asia Carrera got a full academic scholarship to Rutgers and is/was a member of Mensa.
• Danica McKellar who has written a couple books on math and co-authored a paper.
• Natalie Portman who has also co-authored some papers.
• Jodie Foster was a high school valedictorian and finished in the top of her class at Yale.

So, are there any more actors, singers, etc that might surprise me a bit as far as book-smarts goes?

• Mick Jagger studied at the London School of Economics and planned to become a politician.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:38, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

James Franco has an MFA and has been accepted onto a Ph.D programme (ref). -- Finlay McWalter • Talk 18:40, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Natasha Stefanenko earned a degree in Metal Engineering, and Sharon Stone is said to have a very high IQ.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:42, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Actor John Larroquette, who never went beyond a high school education, has a massive collection of some 5000 first editions. Pepso2 (talk) 18:49, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

As I think you'll find many (most, probably) successful actors have a college education (or something equivalent like RADA), actor-with-college-degree probably is a large and surprise-free category. You may be more surprised to know that Heroes actor Masi Oka used to write computational fluid-dynamics software for video effects at Industrial Light and Magic.(ref) I remember well watching Dreamcatcher and thinking "gosh this is bad, but that drool is really convincing" ;) -- Finlay McWalter • Talk 18:50, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Dolph Lundgren, Masters in Chemistry, Fullbright Scholar. -- Finlay McWalter • Talk 18:54, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Two more with brawn and brains: Vitali Klitschko has a Ph.D. in Sports Science and Bud Spencer (who probably spent most of his film career beating up weaker actors), has a degree in jurisprudence (and then some, see article).

Singer Gianna Nannini graduated in philosophy at the Università di Siena, with highest marks, apparently. --Sluzzelin talk 19:51, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

(ec)George "The Animal" Steele has a Masters degree and taught high school. Matt Deres (talk) 19:55, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Stephan Jenkins of Third Eye Blind fame graduated from University of California, Berkeley as the valedictorian of his class.10draftsdeep (talk) 20:38, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Famously (at least if you're in the UK), the keyboard player in 90s band D:Ream is now Professor Brian Cox, internationally known particle physicist, Royal Society research fellow, and TV presenter of science shows. Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:53, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

The 1930s-50s Hollywood actress Hedy Lamarr co-invented and patented (in 1941) a system of frequency-hopping spread-spectrum radio communication, intended to remotely control torpedoes. 87.81.230.195 (talk) 23:41, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Paul Winchell (the voice of Tigger among other things) invented an artificial heart. Adam Bishop (talk) 00:14, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

All together now: "The wonderful thing about Winchells is Winchells are wonderful things! Their hearts are made out of rubber ..." Clarityfiend (talk) 02:44, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Please identify Lemony Snicket trailer music

A long, long time ago, I heard some music while I was randomly browsing websites. I was able to save a (midi?) file that was playing in the background of a website (something on Goth I believe). The file and website are both long gone now, I think. However, recently I saw the trailer of the Lemony Snicket movie and heard what I'm sure is the same music (maybe arranged a little differently). Here is a link to the trailer on Youtube. The music I'm talking about is in the first 30 seconds (especially 0:20 to 0:30 sounds familiar). Does anyone know what it is? Based on this, it may originate from the Gothic Archies (described as "Goth-Bubblegum" ! :) ). The music I'm thinking of was entirely instrumental -- no lyrics. Any help would be appreciated. TresÁrboles (talk) 21:01, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

That seems simply to be the film's soundtrack, by composer Thomas Newman (the first track, which appears to be what you're talking about, is called "The Bad Beginning"). Newman is pretty prolific, and I find a lot of his stuff sounds rather similar. He did the soundtrack for American Beauty; its opening track "Dead Already" is reminiscent of the section you describe. Much of Newman's work is available via Spotify, so (if that's available to you) you might like to check that. -- Finlay McWalter • Talk 21:37, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. However, the samples ( and ) I found on Youtube of the music you mention does not seem to me to be like what I was looking for. (And maybe my ears are bad, but I don't hear the resemblance at all.) Also, the Lemony Snicket movie was released in 2004, and I'm sure I heard the music much earlier than that (I'm guessing sometime in the 90s), so that film's soundtrack couldn't have been its first appearance. American Beauty is more plausible... but again, if the example I found on Youtube is correctly labeled, that's definitely not it. TresÁrboles (talk) 04:12, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

May 28

Brittany_Murphy

Who is the person on the left ?174.3.121.27 (talk) 02:54, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Maybe her husband? (It's hard to tell from just a nose, but his was kind of pointy like that, I guess...) Adam Bishop (talk) 02:59, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

The image was taken in 2006. Murphy got married to Monjack in '07. So it's possibly him. Dismas| 03:08, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Scratch that. I don't think it's Monjack. These images of Monjack make his nose look a lot less pointy. Additionally, the mystery man's lip blends into his chin much more smoothly than Monjack's. So, maybe her previous boyfriend, Joe Macaluso. Dismas| 03:13, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm guessing it's this semi-anonymous dude since he's in the other pictures. Apparently he goes by the "Gerbil", but further clicking at Flickr makes me think his name is Rob. Matt Deres (talk) 03:30, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

first name characters inspired by another show

I watched the "Go West, Young Dukes" episode of Dukes of Hazzard. Bo Duke's great grandfather was Joe Duke. Luke Duke's great grandfather was Hank Duke. Daisy Duke's great grandmother was Dixie Duke. Could it be the writers were inspired by the first names of Emergency! characters Joe Early, Hank Stanley, and Dixie McCall? Or is it some type of coincidence?24.90.204.234 (talk) 03:57, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

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