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Competition
The page describes WCAU and KYW as being in "spirited" competition with WCAU coming out on top. As a resident of Philadelphia, I question this assertion. Based on polls I've seen and just based on my general impression, most watch Channel 6 (KYW) and not 10 (WCAU). I leave correcting this error to the Misplaced Pages regulars.
- well all i can say is that if you were watch 6, and i am guessing action news, you wernt watching kyw.
CBS did not merge with Westinghouse in 1994; that came later in 1995-6. See KYW-TV for the correct order of events.
Also, the title of this article is incorrect. The station's callsign is WCAU, not WCAU-TV. According to the FCC database, WCAU-TV became WCAU on 10/06/1995, so it happened under NBC ownership. 18.26.0.18 00:22, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
To the anon: why did you remove the section I added on John Zacherle? -- Decumanus 22:55, 2005 May 31 (UTC)
Not vandalism
Neither of you are vandals. This is an edit war. Page is protected. Talk it out please. Thanks. Rhobite 08:14, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)
- Their is nothing to discuss, their has been a newer extensive article on the subject, that article has not been given due considertion by either users or admins, "establishment", the subject now meets that creteria that mutt and his minons, who have shown threw their edits a massive anti-Philadelphia bias, would list as a creditable person, so their is no reason to de link or speedy the subject in question, and an perosn that does i will consider a vandal or an admin who is abusing their privildges, and re link and recreat the article. But being that i am dealing with the "establishment" , who only seem to work in their best intrests and not in the best intrest of the regular credible user, or in the protection of this site as a vaid source of information of the web, as it is becoming more of a soure wikipedia needs to evolve and reform. As far as i am concerned this discussion is over. --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 08:23, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- The "establishment"? What, pray tell, are the motivations of this evil "establishment", the powers-that-be, for their "massive anti-Philadelphia bias"? --Calton | Talk 08:29, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- The "establishment" = vast majority of admins on here, they are not the anti-Philadelpia gang, who are Spotteddogsdotorg (talk · contribs), and his minions 209.137.173.69 (talk · contribs), 68.83.229.241 (talk · contribs), Toasthaven (talk · contribs), Hohokus (talk · contribs), ConeyCyclone (talk · contribs), et al while all have not made anti-phildelphia edits, basied on my resarch and that of others that these useres are either the same person or or working in coridination with each other, espically in vfd, on pov unsourced edits, to creat general distruption among other things. --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 08:36, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Buh? First you rail on about the "establishment" supporting "massive anti-Philadelphia bias", and now you say they (whoever "they" are) aren't? You're making less and less sense with each edit. --Calton | Talk 11:30, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I think someone (Boothy443) watched too many episodes of the X-Files. I must be a space alien with a "massive anti-Philadelphia bias" and either multiple personalites or mind control. It has to be something in the water down there. Spotteddogsdotorg 06:47, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Buh? First you rail on about the "establishment" supporting "massive anti-Philadelphia bias", and now you say they (whoever "they" are) aren't? You're making less and less sense with each edit. --Calton | Talk 11:30, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- what ever, and your just a tool for the admins that would rahter suppress content, and support adbusive lying admins --213.184.21.88 11:33, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Boy I sure miss those days
I miss those days of WCAU as CBS. Those were the good old days. My mother was still with us and we were happy. If you have any videos of those good times please contact me! I want to relive those days. MrPhillyTV 18:09, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
Divesture to NBC
According to the WTVJ and/or WFOR articles, the deal in which CBS divested WCAU also involved the 2 Miami O&O's swapping dial positions and transmitter facilities...Ranma9617 00:42, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
What should the article name be?
This article has been moved from WCAU-TV to WCAU several times lately. Seems as though that the people that move to WCAU believe article names are dependent on FCC call letters, with the move-backs to WCAU-TV believing that all of these articles need suffixes. Who is correct and where does it say so? --WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 23:42, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
In August 2004, Radiojon decided that stations that FCC licenses without the class suffix must be at WZZZ (TV) whereas stations FCC licenses with the suffix should be at WZZZ-TV. Any disagreements with this rule?? Georgia guy 23:44, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- There seems to be an slow, ongoing "move war" (as I call it) that keeps moving this article from WCAU-TV to WCAU back to WCAU-TV back to WCAU, etc. Should we protect from page moves just to enforce that this page is supposed to be WCAU and not WCAU-TV? And the most recent move spread itself to essentially every TV station article in the wiki... this is going to take a while to take care of. Apologies for the long comment, but I have to mention this. --WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 01:11, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- I put a message on Boothy443's talk page asking why he wants this article at WCAU with a reason that appears to be most probable according to my speculation. Georgia guy 01:12, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
I want to relive those days
Hi, I am Scott Brown MrPhillyTV and I want to relive those good days when WCAU was CBS and before they went to NBC. IF you have any videos of them please send and do not be like those people on tvnewstalk.net who were mean and never sent tapes that they agreed to. I got my revenge on them. FunkyChicken! 14:09, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
- And we'll keep getting our revenge on YOU if you continue to vandalize this article. This is not a place for soliciting products, requesting services, or for anything similar. If you can not contribute something useful, don't contribute anything. Rollosmokes 16:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Recent Changes
I took out most of the paragraph on the 1956 NBC-Westinghouse swap, as it did not directly involve WCAU-TV as a separate entity. While it **does** involve NBC's history in Philadelphia, that information should continue to have a place in this article, but the nuts-and-bolts details from a Philadelphia standpoint can be found in KYW (AM) and KYW-TV. Rollosmokes 16:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Reporters and Anchors
Can anyone here explain to me why David Ushery and Steve Handlesman are on this page? They do not work for WCAU. Ushery works for WNBC and appears on WCAU at most twice a year and that is generous. Handlesman works for NBC and reports for all of it's owned and operated stations. I feel that they should not be included on the page as they are not WCAU staff. (D. Lynch) 22 July 2006
Chris Blackman
"Chris Blackman, the current news director, took over the job from the well-liked Steve Schiwald, who got the station to come closer to WPVI than it ever had in a long time. Blackman does not seem to have the favor among this employees as his predecessor - the fact that his name was used alongside a picture of The Grinch during a Christmas newscast seems to support this (other staffers were simply pictured among objects such as holly)."
This seems a bit subjective, and it also is not cited.
Recent edits by CBS 10 Philadelphia
CBS 10 Philadelphia is most likely Erik Mokracek. He founded a Yahoo Group of the same name, and he is the only person known to want KYW and WCAU to revert to their old affiliations, with no explanation as to why.John 22:28, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 03:39, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Significant trimming of Former Staff section
I just cut everyone out of the alumni section that does not have their own Misplaced Pages page. This is believed to be the current consensus at WP:WikiProject Television Stations. The rationales are as follows:
- Most importantly, per WP:NOT, Misplaced Pages is "not an indiscriminate collection of information." As that section describes, just because something is true, doesn't necessarily mean the info belongs in Misplaced Pages.
- Secondarily, per WP:V, we cannot include information that is not verifiable and sourced. I'm not certain how it would even be possible to source this information.
- Per WP:BLP, we have to be especially careful about including un-sourced info about living persons.
All of the people with their own pages are notable enough to appear on this list. However, if you look at pages about companies in general, you will not find mention of previous employees, except in those cases where the employee was particularly notable. Even then, the information is not presented just as a list of info, but is incorporated into the text itself (for example, when a company's article talks about the policies a previous CEO had, or when they mention the discovery/invention of a former engineer/researcher). Qwyrxian (talk) 03:57, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- I would wonder if it's possible to reformat the list so that it takes up less real estate than a one column list, so that perhaps including these additional folks isn't such a bother? Or maybe it's the case that these lists are large and significant enough to spin them off into their own pages such as "List of staff of WCAU." It seems to me that a number of people are notable, it's just that nobody has created their pages yet. Just choosing a couple, John Ogden is interesting and notable because he won a contest that got him his job and while it was only supposed to be a summer gig, turned into five years of work -- he has also done significant charity work through his position, Mike Strug was on the air for over 40 years, and also taught classes at local colleges, and was involved in a number of other efforts.
- First, as far as WP:NOT, a list of former (mostly) on-air staff is by very definition, not indiscriminate. In regards to WP:V "not verifiable and sourced" it is pretty easy to find references for these two, and I would assume a majority of the others, so WP:BLP is a moot point. Now, onto your so-called "consensus" -- one person postulating an opinion, however well-written, and another single person replying does not a consensus make. You even stated that you saw a few discussions on the matter but "but no absolutely solid consensus". The WP:WikiProject Television Stations itself even says that a television station article should include "information on it's personalities past and present." I would say you are going "crazy deletionist" (your own words) and I think I'm going to revert your edit. I would agree with you that for these lists "administative assistants" should not qualify unless there is some other related reason they are notable if indeed they are actually being listed on these pages, but since the only relevant issues really seems to be whether or not it is verifiable that the person worked there or not -- I would recommend that if you wish to remove someone from a page, that you do a simple websearch for them rather than simply doing a blanket delete of all people without wikipedia pages.
- The talk page discussion if anybody wants to read it: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Television_Stations#Alumni_.28and_current_staff.29_Lists
Centerone (talk) 12:28, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
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