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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by MarnetteD (talk | contribs) at 23:15, 14 February 2011 (new section that also rmvs IP hopping trolling. Toddst1 if you want to reinstate it please do so with my apologies). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Misplaced Pages Ambassador Program is looking for new Online Ambassadors

Hi! Since you've been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, I wanted to let you know about the Misplaced Pages Ambassador Program, and specifically the role of Online Ambassador. We're looking for friendly Wikipedians who are good at reviewing articles and giving feedback to serve as mentors for students who are assigned to write for Misplaced Pages in their classes.

If that sounds like you and you're interested, I encourage you to take a look at the Online Ambassador guidelines; the "mentorship process" describes roughly what will be expected of mentors during the current term, which started in January and goes through early May. If that's something you want to do, please apply!

You can find instructions for applying at WP:ONLINE. The main things we're looking for in Online Ambassadors are friendliness, regular activity (since mentorship is a commitment that spans several months), and the ability to give detailed, substantive feedback on articles (both short new articles, and longer, more mature ones).

I hope to hear from you soon.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 01:14, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, no. Toddst1 (talk) 07:10, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Similar name

I doubt Toddy1 is an impersonator but I thought I'd point it out fyi. When I saw your post at Bugs I initially confused you with them. I'm still working on that little square with the arrow thing. Slightsmile (talk) 18:11, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Toddy1 seems like a solid editor and I think our names are sufficiently different that people will know the difference between us. I'll poll Toddy1 (talk · contribs) to be sure. Toddst1 (talk) 16:37, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

The first evidence of our existence on Misplaced Pages are as follows:

• Toddy1 17:18, 30 December 2006, which was a note telling me that the first article I wrote was tagged for speedy deletion.
• Toddst1 02:13, 2 May 2007, which was an edit to a page that still exists.

Unless you believe me to be a time-traveller, it is clear that I cannot have chosen my ID to impersonate you.--Toddy1 (talk) 17:25, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

I noticed that only after I posted. I know I should have looked before posting but I don't think there's any harm done. Like I said, I initially thought the post on Bugs was Toddy1 - no big deal. Also I should have said more forcefully, "I'm sure Toddy1 isn't an imposter ...". If someone confused me to a name similar to mine I would be appreciative, not offended by someone pointing it out to either one of us. Slightsmile (talk) 17:57, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Pleased to meet you there Toddy1! Toddst1 (talk) 23:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

The Next Step Realty

I do not understand why this page is continually taken down/edited. I do not work for them, nor am I affiliated with them, so I do not understand how you can infer that there is a conflict of interest. Also, where in the page was it an advertisement? Everything in the page was purely informational with sources, you also claim the sources aren't good enough, how can that be when they come from bloomberg and the wall street journal? Your edits/deletion of my edits are absurd. At least explain exactly what is wrong and what needs to be fixed in order for my edits to remain, that is a lot more helpful than you just taking them down, and merely saying look at our guidelines, when I do not see myself making any of those errors. Thanks. Hockeyguy676 (talk) 14:40, 31 January 2011

As a new editor, how would you know "this page is continually taken down/edited"? Have you edited the page before? Toddst1 (talk) 16:40, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Because you have done it to my edits several times, at the last count I think my own edits have been changed 4 times Hockeyguy676 (talk) 19:54, 31 January 2011 (UTC)hockeyguy676 1/31/2011

You must be editing under multiple identities then, as you have only edited that article as Hockeyguy676 (talk · contribs) on January 27. See WP:SOCKS. Toddst1 (talk) 21:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Well I'm not, I've never edited on another profile. I do not understand the problem here, I made several edits to the same page "Next Step Realty" over the course of about 3 days. You or someone else repeatedly removed my edits, but never explained what the problem was. I merely want to know what I have to do in order for my edits to remain and what would constitute proper citing if the Wall Street Journal and Bloomberg does not, for not only the page Next Step Realty but also for further edits. If you don't want to help me that is fine but understand, I am not trying to cheat you, I have never edited on Misplaced Pages before I worked on Next Step nor am I attempting to advertise for the company. Hockeyguy676 (talk) 02:37, 1 February 2011 (UTC)Hockeyguy676

You're arguing about an article whose subject appears to be about as notable as my big toe? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:01, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I couldn't agree more. Thanks BW. Toddst1 (talk) 15:55, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

P.S. I think I will opine Keep: in Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Bwilkins' big toe per WP:BIGTOE. Toddst1 (talk) 20:02, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Dude! You made coffee come up through my nose! (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:31, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

As an admin you are more familiar with deletion procedures that I am. There is a redirect to the article on The Next Step Realty from Blair Brandt. If Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/The Next Step Realty results in the deletion of the article, will the admin who does the deletion also delete aliases that redirect to it, such as Blair Brandt? Or will I need to put a speedy delete tag on the redirect, once it redirects to nothing?--Toddy1 (talk) 18:46, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

If it's done correctly, yes. Toddst1 (talk) 19:04, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, the articles and redirects on this obscure company have all been deleted. It did not turn out at all as I expected when I nominated the articles. I thought that various editors created the articles would argue their case in the deletion discussion. I expected them to provide robust defences for all the sources that they had attempted to cite in the article. If they persuaded uninvolved editors that these were substantial, they could then have turned the article into the kind of article they wanted it to be. Instead, they did not bother, which suggests that they knew you were right.

You were and I were both subject to unacceptable abuse on the same day (though from different users and about different matters). Your abuser got a 1-week ban for homophobic abuse. My abuser got a notice placed on his page asking him to post in English (the abuse was racist abuse written in Ukrainian).

Good luck in the future.--Toddy1 (talk) 11:47, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I wish I was aware of the abuse directed against you. Toddst1 (talk) 16:14, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I posted a report on Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette alerts#IP editor 24.0.177.155.2F70.111.133.184. The IP editor(s) had used a racist word (Кацап) in edit summaries and then on 7 February posted racist comments on may talk page. Кацап (katsap) is a Ukrainian-language racist word for Russian people; calling someone a katsap, is like calling Serena Williams a n****r; it is unacceptable. At 15:17 today, User:Future Perfect at Sunrise awarded 24.0.177.155 a 48 hour block for personal attacks and disruptive editing.--Toddy1 (talk) 17:05, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

First/Final Warning

Earlier today, I added a {{Uw-spam1}} to User_talk:82.108.32.42. I notice that later on, you added a final warning for the same issue. I'm out of touch on WP guidelines, so I just wanted to bring it to your attention and make sure that this was intentional and appropriate. Assuming it is, should the first warning be removed in favour of the final warning? – RobinHood70 21:55, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Well technically you are right - we usually go in incremental levels of warning. I wanted to leave a pretty stern warning as that IP is connected with the business that every on of its edits was promoting. I've removed the first warning - hope that's ok with you. If they were a registered user, they'd be indefinitely blocked at this point. Toddst1 (talk) 22:08, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, that doesn't bother me a bit. – RobinHood70 23:54, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

I've not looked at the particular case in question, but if an IP is engaging is lots of vandalism, it is quite appropriate to issue a lvl 1 on first coming across the vandalism, and follow it up with a 4im on further investigation. Mjroots (talk) 22:48, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

SS Alesia

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Hi, are you sure that the name of this ship became Dunrae, or that the date of 1899 is correct? Reason I ask is that it doesn't sound very Norwegian and The Times of 18 September 1899 (p4, column C) states that a Norwegian ship named Duraes sprang a leak and sank off Elba on 8 September 1899 with a cargo of minerals. Duraes is a much more Norwegian name, but Alesia was not a cargo ship. Anyway, food for thought, I'm not proposing to make any changes to the article on the ship on the strength of this. Mjroots (talk) 22:48, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

No, I'm not, I was going by the source that's linked: . It was the only one I had at the time. I suspect the Times is more accurate. I'll copy this conversation over to talk:SS Alesia so others have the benefit. Toddst1 (talk) 23:11, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Colonial Promenade Alabaster

I added some references to Colonial Promenade Alabaster. You may want to revisit Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Colonial Promenade Alabaster. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 07:13, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

New user Todd.st

Just wanted to call your attention to Todd.st (talk · contribs). --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:26, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi Toddst1. I am certainly not attempting to impersonate you. My real first name is Todd (two d's; the only way to go), and the ".st" represents the first two letters of my last, very Italian name. Not much else--short of spelling out my entire name--would go through the Wiki form fields. Peace.

Todd.st (talk) 19:30, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Many thanks for the tutorial links (and the meat pie, of course). Todd.st (talk) 20:18, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I agree with SOV. The user name may appear disruptive as I thought that the user was you, but perhaps you should have let another user post the message on the users talk page as you have clear conflict of interest. I was going to do it, until I saw yours. No harm though, it will work itself out in the end.--Jojhutton (talk) 00:13, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Vandalizing a talk page?

What's wrong with you? It was the talk page!--Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 19:13, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Join Misplaced Pages!

A quick note to say that you essay brought a smile to my face and day. Only one quibble - in the case of what Santa is really doing at the North Pole, he is promoting "Rangifer sexuality" :-) Thanks again for the laughs. MarnetteD | Talk 23:15, 14 February 2011 (UTC)