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Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays Crisco 1492! | AndonicO 01:04, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

May you and your family have a Merry Christmas, as well as any other Holiday you may celebrate. I hope that warmth, good cheer, and love surround you during these special days. May God bless you during the Holidays. | AndonicO 01:04, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks for signing my autograph book! | AndonicO 21:34, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Fair use image in user namespace

Hello!

You have used a fair use image in your user namespace (Image:007Connery.jpg in User:Crisco 1492). Criterion 9 of the Misplaced Pages:Fair use criteria states that "Fair use images may be used only in the article namespace. Used outside article space, they are not covered under the fair use doctrine." I have removed it on these grounds.

Sincerely, --Oden 09:41, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

New Year

I Hope You Have A Happy New Year Crisco 1492!!!! ¿Why1991 22:44, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

I hope that you have a wonderful New Year and will party all night long. If you don't celebrate New year at this time well then happy early or late New Year and I still advise that you have a good time tonight!!! ¿Why1991 22:44, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for signing my autograph book. You are current signee, and lucky #30!!! Why1991 16:29, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

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Ande-ande Lumut

Hi, I just read your profile and found out that you're interested in hearing the story of Ande-ande Lumut. It's a folk story derived from the long and diverse tradition of Panji cycle, used for wayang performance (among others). The story is about a love story between a prince and a princess, both in disguise, looking for each other. If you want to hear the rest of the story, you are welcome to contact me. Salam! Matahari Pagi (talk) 07:20, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Radcliffe Award

Hi, You initiated a discussion on the talk page for the Radcliffe Award, to which I have responded. Ajobin (talk) 18:38, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Apollo Creed AfD

No prob. I pity the fool who can't nominate articles correctly! (Oh wait, that's a different character...) Nightscream (talk) 15:28, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

True, although at least he didn't just jump up and bite you, bite your d*mn hand off, then cut you down in your prime. (Oops... Closer, at least) Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:30, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Some concern

While you and jack are indeed making some substantial addition of to Indonesian articles, I do hope you are aware that many are effectively WP:NOT and quite exactly why the WikiProject Indonesia has such a general dislike of such activity - you have copied over from WP id - and that is a serious issue in itself as the id project has little or no interest in the standards that WP en has - the is not a single WP:RS or WP:CITE in sight.

Basically all your hard work is revertable - because copying across from WP id is not in itself sufficient for WP:V - this is not to put down your hard work - but more a case of hoping you have either the initiative to find a source or cite sometime - and remember where you are - not Wp id! SatuSuro 00:14, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Please note that (if you are referring to the Sleman Regency article) that I have marked it as under construction. I will cite what can be cited once I get around to it. I have quite a busy schedule (I have to teach in an hour, as a matter of fact), and noting the citations takes up too much time for me to do it as I go. As for the other regency articles (so far, Batang Regency, Blora Regency, Kudus Regency, Kulon Progo Regency, Bantul Regency, Demak Regency, Gunung Kidul Regency and probably a few more) I have been adding infoboxes ONLY, with information from the Indonesian Misplaced Pages until such time as I can go to the official websites for a proper citation. Thank you for your concern, but I am well aware that it will have to be cited. I just haven't gotten around to it. Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:25, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Many Indonesian websites are notoriously problematic - I sure hope you have something other than them for reliable sources SatuSuro 00:28, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Having lived in Indonesia (Sleman, to be quite honest) for the past 4 years, I am quite aware of how bad many Indonesian sites are. However, the official website for a government should qualify as Verifiable unless I were writing about corruption or something negative. For foreign websites, the number of hotels can be verified via GoogleMaps (or a tourism guide to Yogyakarta, which generally include Sleman), the tourist attractions (Monjali, later Prambanan and probably Kaliurang. I want to avoid listing every single tourist attraction in Sleman because that would be about 50k itself) can be verified using foreign sites, and the history can be corroborated by books about the Mataram and Majapahit kingdoms, as well as books on the history of Indonesia. But if you want to help out (judging by your name, I am going to assume you speak Javanese and Indonesian), feel free. Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:37, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

I will cite/verify my additions when I get around to it. Um, hello?!? This philosophy stumps me no less than it did when I started on wikipedia 5 years ago. If you don’t have a reliable source you shouldn’t be putting it in. So, you're telling us it’s OK to whack (possibly shit) info into wikipedia and you might look for a reliable source if you have time?

How could you possibly justify not putting it in as you write? Why should others not revert it now? --Merbabu (talk) 00:43, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

If possible, please refrain from using crude language. I have said that I will cite it. That means that I will write the citation when I have the time. (Aku akan menuliskan sumbernya ketika ada waktunya.) I have said that I am busy, and do not have the time to remember the proper format. I will do it when I have more free time. Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:49, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Well the crude language wasn't directed at you, it was a general comment about the "I'll cite it later" attitude across wikipedia. You are to be commended for the efforts to expand, realy. But, it must be backed up. looking forward to seeing you develop the article more. cheers. --Merbabu (talk) 00:55, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. I understand how you feel (especially since many people do NOT cite, even after they say they will), but my understanding of Misplaced Pages:Ignore all rules and its explanatory essay is that if it clearly improves the article, even if it is not verifiable, it should go in (and eventually be verified). However, if said information is found to be false (such as Ibnu instead of Sri in the Sleman Regency article), it should be removed or changed. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:28, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Rubbish - you have the wrong order - on the line below your edit screen -Encyclopedic content must be verifiable- If you dont like WP:RS as a basic guideline - and only like copying across the WP id articles - maybe you should think again about how you use your time SatuSuro 01:36, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Please note that Misplaced Pages:Ignore all rules is policy, and actually one of the 5 pillars. As for "Must be verifiable", just because the information is not cited yet doesn't mean it is not verifiable. For example, if at one point the Indonesia article did not cite the fact that Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono was president, it would be uncited but still easily verifiable. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:40, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Also, note my explanation of what was translated from the Indonesian Misplaced Pages: "I copied the information in the infoboxes." When I finish my lessons today, I will cite the official government website for things such as population and area, then remove that translation tag as there will be no translated information left that isn't already cited. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:43, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining what you are doing - If you are going to regularly keep adding uncited material be prepared to wear what that means in general - rather than reaching for a rule or policy for an excuse - and for whoevers sake dont over rely on indonesian government websites as your main source - if you have access to something like a foreign tourist handbook and it has something - that would be eminently more useful than over-reliance on the govt stuff - enjoy your day SatuSuro 01:50, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

I am not reaching. Please read the essay and the policy page. I will not over rely on government websites. BTW: Do you consider yogyes.com a reliable website? I don't, and will probably not use it. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:54, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

You live in sleman - if you try google/oggle for yogya or sleman - and the heap after heap of mirror and rubbish sites that will give you half true info - yogyayes is not as bad as some - if you try one you need another to balance - for instance - www.jogjatourism.com - endless grammatical, spelling and factual errors move into these sites as there is no standardising element - I have no time now to give you a long tirade about the problems of public domain information about places and things in java - it would be a real spray - melutus - just try to find more than one to balance against another - in all their mistakes or outright copying SatuSuro 02:09, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

(after a few edit conflicts) I too don't agree with the hierachy of policy suggested. IAR has it's benefits, but it's not get out of jail free card to be freely waved when it suits. But, it seems like we've each made our points and the expansion is to be strongly encouraged - thanks. I still don't get why verification can't be done at the time, and request that you can provide the cites to good RS's ASAP. kind regards and happy editing. --Merbabu (talk) 02:12, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

@Suro: Fine, as a temporary measure we can try and use the English language articles with hopes of finding a book with the information necessary later. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:22, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

@Merbabu: I understand, and I do not intend to use it as a get out of jail free card (no writing that Sleman has the least corrupt government in Indonesia without a citation, naturally). I will do my best to verify what is there before expanding further. If possible, it would be nice if either you or Suro were to help out. I have pictures aplenty, so that isn't a problem. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:22, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

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hmm more edit conflicts than damned malioboro at going to work time - dont get me wrong - your edits are really in the right direction - and I for one hope you feel enthused to do lots more - there are some issues worth knowing about - and one is that in the past copying from wp id has been an unhappy event - the other is wp;rs free stubs that lie around in limbo - over time I am sure we will improve the articles very well - cheers SatuSuro 02:26, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Cheers. I am glad that we were able to work this out. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:34, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

• Hi. Don't get too fussed over their fuss ;) Good work. Cheers, Jack Merridew 02:55, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks Jack. Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:29, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Ad nauseam

Hello Crisco 1492, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Ad nauseam, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: not all content is in wiktionary. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. SmartSE (talk) 00:53, 20 February 2011 (UTC)