Misplaced Pages

User talk:GiacomoReturned

Article snapshot taken from[REDACTED] with creative commons attribution-sharealike license. Give it a read and then ask your questions in the chat. We can research this topic together.

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by GiacomoReturned (talk | contribs) at 20:17, 1 March 2011 (→March 2011). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Revision as of 20:17, 1 March 2011 by GiacomoReturned (talk | contribs) (→March 2011)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)

[[

thumb
Spumoni

Old messages are at:

Essays and thoughts:




Please leave new messages below

File:Winslow.jpg listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Winslow.jpg, has been listed at Misplaced Pages:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. SchuminWeb (Talk) 06:28, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

  • I have repleid and thank you to those who emailed me concerming this ridiculous matter. I note that SchuminWeb has a Bachelor of Science degree in Public Administration, that probably explains why the public these days are so badly administered. I shall now return to my Wikibreak - hopefully - uninterupted.  Giacomo  19:44, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
My views are very obvious to all. I have always voted "keep local" since some mental retard at Commons altered all my images making them in to big meaningles squares and deleted my images here. Were it not for Durova to whom I had to go on bended knee (only she had the skill to repair them), most of my better pages would now be devoid of images. I shall not be commmenting on this matter elsewhere, but you can refer those interested to my views here. However, I only write content and take the bloody photos, I can't imagine that mattering much to those idiotic little twits who make their forgettable names in Misplaced Pages's beaurocracy - and let's face it, they do run the show.  Giacomo  20:15, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

"we must pray"

Amen. :-( --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:15, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Indeed we must; it is catastrophic. I've seen all this elsewhere, but never where so large a percentage of a nations' heritage buildings have been destroyed. All one can do is pray for the dead and suffering - who come first - but then make sure all the lost buildings have a good right up here. I don't do messages of sympathy - sometimes I wish I did.  Giacomo  20:09, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

March 2011

As you know although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, you are reminded not to attack other editors, as you did on in this deletion discussion. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors.

When discussing content as it relates to policies please comment on that and not direct comments towards editors. Please refrain from calling any editor, be they an admin or not, an "idiot", ignorant morons and "ignorant, stupid little admin who has not the remotest idea what you are talking about"

In response to your comments such as When I require it, it will cease to be orphaned it was pointed out to you Misplaced Pages has policies, including Misplaced Pages:What Misplaced Pages is not a mirror or a repository of links, images, or media files, a file storage area or a personal web hosting site. Being an active editor for the many years you claim you should have been aware of those policies. Thank you. Soundvisions1 (talk) 00:53, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

  • When people try to delete my images because they wish to prove a point elsewhere with others they will be called mindless morons. If I go to the trouble of drawing an image then it is because I want it. I do not write on a timescale to please some semi-anonymous little admin who has probably never written page in its life here. The polite thing to do (not that an Admin can be expected to know the meaning of the word) would have been to ask me if I required the image before nominating it for deletion. Now I suggest you take your coments to IRC or Facebook or wherever it is that people may be interested in what you have to say.  Giacomo  07:30, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello, GiacomoReturned. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette alerts regarding personal attacks. The discussion is about the topic User:GiacomoReturned. Thank you. --Soundvisions1 (talk) 13:53, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

  • Giacomo, I strongly urge you not to respond to the WQA report - and would remind you again that you should be setting the example of showing respect for other contributors actions and comments, if you desire it to be given to you. LessHeard vanU (talk) 14:04, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

"The polite thing to do (not that an Admin can be expected to know the meaning of the word) would have been to ask me if I required the image before nominating it for deletion." and I would and would remind you again that Admins should be setting the example of showing respect for other contributors actions and comments, if they desire it to be given to them.  Giacomo  14:15, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I closed the WQA to stave off drama; but LessHeard vanU is right. Your comments in that thread are immature and nasty; and it is not collegial to edit in such a manner. There is no way, even regarding how your image was treated, to justify what was said. Acting in such a way sacrifices any moral high ground you have and simply creates the constant churn of drama around your activities. Fine; it is annoying when stuff like that happens. But the right outcome came about, there is no need to throw the baby out with the bath water :) Please try to consider your wording in future --Errant 14:17, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Imature and nasty is nominating required images for deletion without having the common courtesy of asking if they are required first or do you think otherwise?-in this case the nomination was, I beleive, a result of some spat the nominator was having elswhere with my friend, Slim Virgin - (a spat in which I have yet to become involved) I suggest Admins are given some meagre training in good manners before you come here telling me what is "nasty."  Giacomo  14:22, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
You're absolutely right, it would have been the polite thing to ask you first. Unfortunately, Misplaced Pages has become so big that it is full of automated and semi-automated processes without which it cannot function anymore, resulting in the occasional impersonal and uninformed deletion nomination. These things happen, so let's assume that there were no bad intentions behind any of this. As for the issue of showing respect, this sounds a bit like the Chicken or the egg problem to me. What about some mutual respect to circumvent the problem of who's going to respect whom first? --Conti|✉ 14:26, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Giano, true. I haven't looked at the nom. However, that does not justify anything. The manners of those nomming the image may not have been good, but neither were your actions. Bottom line is; you're now as bad as them. *shrug* you did that to yourself. This training in manners, I think, is something that could benefit you as well as some admins. Indeed; not being an admin is certainly no excuse to behave rudely, if anything it is even worse justification! --Errant 14:32, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Please do not come here telling me whay I should be doing, put your own corps d'administrateurs in order first because I am rather tired of seeing them behaving like wounded and long dying swans in tawdry tutus when someone points out the error of their ways. I see nothing wrong in telling someone behaving like an idiot that they are doing so. In the meantime, I espect the point of the exercise was for me to take a look at this whole "keep local" business - so I shall go and attend to that. I see the image has been "saved" so I suppose we now have to go through the whole sour grapes rigmarole - sometimes Misplaced Pages becomes too tiresome for words.  Giacomo  14:45, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Sorry Giano, just trying to be helpful and bring some collegiality to a corner of the wiki where it seems to have disappeared. As it is I see no reason for you to expect good manners or respect, even on a first strike basis, if you continue acting in the same way as those you deride. You may be pointing out the error of their ways, and I entirely respect that, but consider perhaps that I am trying to do the same for you. Self criticism and perspective is a bitch... I came here to diffuse a drama and perhaps get you to re-consider the attitude. As it is you seem intent on fighting for fightings sake. FWIW you just lost what respect I had for your contributions. I will leave you to the quagmire of your own attitude, although it saddens me to see --Errant 14:52, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
There is a big difference between telling someone that he's behaving like an idiot (we all do at times, and sometimes we need to be reminded), and calling someone an "ignorant moron" or "some mental retard". I hope we can agree on this much. --Conti|✉ 14:55, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
If you bother to look at the comment I describe as moronic, you will see the commentator was attempting to bring the whole "keep local" debate to the discussion . While I have no doubt that was the point of the nomination it was a moronic thing to do - in fact the whole of that person's comment was uninformed to put it mildly. If people wish me to join the "keep local" debate they have only to ask, but attacking my work is not a good way to go about it - no matter what you assembled admins may feel. Now regarding the "mental retard" do we have a traget for that? If you wish to open that debate , please say so - otherwise I will keep the identity of the person who stipidly caused so much damage to so many images and extra work to so many to myself.  Giacomo  15:10, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Again, you did not describe an action as moronic, you described the person as an "igonrant moron". That's simply not an okay thing to do, even if you are right (and I happen to think that you were). That's the whole point here. --Conti|✉ 15:18, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
You don't get to go around calling people morons, even when you think they are morons. Y'know, civic virtue and all that. I'm not going to explain to you why things like being nice to each other and showing mutual respect even in situations of crass disagreement are important in any kind of community. And yes, that's true for admins, too. And yes, there are admins out there who think that those basic rules don't apply to them, unfortunately. But that does not change what's happened here one bit. --Conti|✉ 15:37, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Well then I suggest you go straight to the top, and start with people like Coren who without raising any eyebrows are allowed to call people mental (even when they are clearly not) then when you have sorted out the Arbs and the Admins then come back here and I will attempt to emulate them. In the meantime, if I am trolled in order to get me join a debate I have no interest in then those doing the trolling will have the error of their ways firmly pointed out to them. Now, if you don't mind, I have some pages that I wish to tidy up - this conversation is going nowhere and doubtless providing entertainment for many - so let's dissapoint them and write some very dull pages instead.  Giacomo  15:45, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
"They do it, too!" has never been a very good excuse for anything. If I see an arb (or an admin, or a newbie, or Jimbo, or you) call people idiots, morons or whatever, I will call them out on that, too. Anyhow, I've made my point here, and I agree that there's more productive things we could do, so let's leave it at that. --Conti|✉ 15:54, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Ah, but people never seem to see the others - do they? Perhaps it's because I'm so friendly and welcoming that people feel able to raise issues here that they feel unable to do elsewhere.  Giacomo  16:38, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
User talk:GiacomoReturned Add topic