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Revision as of 08:19, 20 June 2004 by Jiang (talk | contribs) (→Disambiguation in census data)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)Actually, a small minority of Filipinos are of Spanish or part Spanish descent, and would probably identify as "Hispanic". Interestingly, not all Spanish descended people would identify as such, especially the Basques.
Saying that people from Spain are not hispanics is a non-sence. "Hispanic" is a word that means "coming or related to Spain and spanish culture". every language use that word that way. ex; in french "les cultures hispaniques" means "the Spanish or Spanish related cultures.", not related to Mexican or Guatemaltec cultures which are mostly native indians !!
It would be like excuding english people of "anglo-saxon" culture and considering Jamaican or australian aborigen culture as the anglosaxon culture!!
It is the same for "latin" or "latino", these words mean "related and descent to roman culture", not "from south and central america"
Of course central and south america are included in "latin" group because they have a spanish, portuguese and french herency; but they don't represent all latins or latinos by themselves !!!!!!...
American people usually forget that the "original" latins or latinos are Italians, Frenchs, Spanishs, Portugueses, Catalans, Romanians, and some Belgians and swiss people...
It has nothing to see with a race or any "physical" description of people
I live in a neighborhood that was once all upper middle-class whites, but now it's predominantly working-class Hispanic. As a long-time resident of my city, I'm seeing the neighborhood detioriating quickly. It's scary.
It seems to me that better terms for minority status would be Mezo-American and South American not Hispanic or Latino. I agree with the article about Spanish people being classified as European Americans (or Europeans) not as a protected underclass. How is a Spanish person any more deserving of protection than say an Itallian or Swede?
spanish protection
I'm half Spanish and live in texas. My last name is Fernandez. I have green eyes. My skin is probably lighter than 90 percent of most white peoples'. I'm listed as white on all govt. documents. I'm all for trying to tech people the difference between Spanish and South American. Pop culture defines latino as dark skinned, but that's not because of the spanish part, its the native american part, of which i have little or no common ancestry. However, I still think that Spanish people should be given special consideration when it comes to minority protection. Why? Because I have suffered, first hand, the effects of racism agaist "hispanics". Because my last name is Fernandez, people always assume I'm mexican. Living in texas, that might be a natural assumption. But this has hurt me several times. My father owns a small business, and on more than one occasion, stupid, ignorant rednecks have actually turned down business deals with him because they dont wanna do business with "a mezzican". This racism is bad enough, but it's also missplaced! My dad is as white as any of them and speaks perfect english (probably better than those rednecks). Even though my family never had to overcome financial barriers, we have had to overcome social barriers. If we are going to solve anything though, it won't be with affirmitive action or such similar programs. It will take proper education for the youth for the future generations to truly understand race and racism.
Disambiguation in census data
This page is easily the most linked-to disambiguation page in the whole wikipedia, and the reason is that there are a large number of articles on places in the United States that include information from the United States Census Bureau that all refer to the number of 'Hispanic' inhabitants. See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Hispanic for many, many examples.
Would it be possible to:
- add a new topic for, well, whatever is the proper term for an Hispanic person living in the United States,
- refer to this in the disambiguation page; and
- get a bot to replace all links from census data to Hispanic to the new page?
m.e. 07:57, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)
That would be Hispanic American. We should stick to US Census terms, meaning we use ]. --Jiang 08:19, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)