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Deleted page for Bruce Clay

The page was deleted by you and I think it should not have been.

My history is as an author (Search Engine Optimization All-in-One for Dummies, 746pg., Wylie), speaker at every major conference (90 of them just in the USA), I have the earliest copyrighted site containing the phrase Search Engine Optimization (1997), and Danny Sullivan and others give me reasonable credit (http://www.seomoz.org/blog/smx-west-2010-man-on-the-street-interviews) for coining and popularizing that important industry term. I receive thousands of searches for my name, and Google reports (quoted search query) 230,000 references for my name. Google suggestions for bruce c shows my name as a suggestion. Competitors buy ads on my name.

I did not write that page, and while it is descriptive of me it is not a resume. I have been doing this since 1996.

This will be helpful: http://blog.mannixmarketing.com/2010/10/bruce-clay-at-search-engine-expo-east/

So I am curious... why was my page deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.140.248.54 (talk) 06:43, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Did you read this? Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Bruce_Clay--v/r - TP 12:39, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Death Valley Driver Video Review (5th nomination)

Hi TParis. You closed Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Death Valley Driver Video Review (5th nomination) as "no consensus". Could you explain how the discussion did not generate consensus? The "keep" votes were addressed sufficiently by nominator Msquared3 (talk · contribs), who argued that the references were unreliable. Dream Focus (talk · contribs)'s vote hinged on the fact that the site has interviewed notable people, but the concern of inheritance negated his point. The "delete" votes were also not addressed by the proponents of retention. Thanks, Goodvac (talk) 02:33, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

The keep !voters base their rationale on the presumption of notable. The delete !voters argue against the google sources but don't even address that the website has interviewed notable people which leaves the presumption of sources.--v/r - TP 02:37, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

That the website has interviewed notable people is a classic case of WP:NOTINHERITED, and this was articulated in the responses to Dream Focus. Goodvac (talk) 02:43, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

It's not inherited. It's presumed to have it's own notability based on the interviews of notable people. I don't neccessarily agree with the argument, I fall on the deletionist side, I just call 'em as I see 'em.--v/r - TP 13:49, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't understand your response, but WP:NWEB#No inherited notability directly states that being associated with notable people does not confer notability upon websites. The AfD in question is a rather clear example of this. The consensus after the relist was unanimous that the general notability guideline takes precedence over a single user asserting that the website's interviewing of notable people conferred notability. Goodvac (talk) 01:04, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

As I said, it's not that it confers notability, it's that there is a persumption of notability. Ever read WP:N? Sources do not have to be in the article to prove notability. The argument is that sources must exist. If none are found in 6 months, nominate it again. The close was well within community standards.--v/r - TP 01:15, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

I didn't say sources must be in the article—I don't know where you got that; in the AfD, I said I searched for sources and found none. Other participants did not bring up any sources as well. The burden of finding sources is on those voting to keep the article. WP:V states that if material is challenged, editors must provide sources. Because they failed to do so, the "delete" editors who took the time to search for sources and found none carry more weight.
There is no need to wait six months when consensus has already found that 1) notability is not inherited and 2) no sources document the site in detail as required by the general notability guideline. Goodvac (talk) 01:38, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

If you havent figured it out yet, I'm not going to change my mind about the result of that discussion. I feel there is no consensus.--v/r - TP 01:44, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Travel policy

Per Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Travel policy, please can you userfy this article for me so that I may work upon a better version. Warden (talk) 07:04, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Done.--v/r - TP 13:50, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks. Warden (talk) 15:50, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Proposed Deletion of Robert A Foster

You have your recent close of Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Robert A Foster (Actor) please can you look at this page again, it has been having plenty of visitor and I Note that you even deleted the history of the page but I had say it had 560 visitors in the last 30 days. Robert A Foster is a young actor who first big TV show was Just William (2010 TV serial) he since has been in a short film and people are interested just like the other main leads in the TV show. The page has good sources and reference and he does have a fan base too. The show is up for a 3 BAFTA and interest again in the actors from Just William. Gem09 (talk) 09:21, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

• Hi sorry just wanted to give you some more info please look at this and undelete the page. The page is about a young English Actor who first lead role as Henry in . Just william Cast BBC Website Image of William (Daniel Roche) with the outlaws Ginger (Jordan Grehs), Douglas (Edward Piercy) and Henry (Robert Foster) in Just William,Cast up date on Just William Someone has also used info from his wikipedia page to make a Facebook public figure page ,Cast and Info about Just William IMDB Boy with the Chocolate Fingers as you can see this is just a few links. I think he can be classed Misplaced Pages:ARTIST and it was unreasonable to delete the page.Gem09 (talk) 11:06, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

WP:V is a guideline that requires all content to be verifiable; it is not an inclusion policy. WP:N, WP:GNG, WP:ENT are the guidelines that cover the inclusion of this person and the young actor fails them as described to you in the AFD. Sorry, it's too soon for an article about him.--v/r - TP 13:55, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Deletion review for Robert A Foster (actor)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Robert A Foster (actor). Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Gem09 (talk) 15:29, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Kudos (Arb elections RFC)

Nice job, surely not easy, by the way, one typo here:

• The voting period begin on 27 November ...

SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:17, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, I fixed it.--v/r - TP 17:25, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

I saw a couple of other simple typos-- want me to list 'em? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:25, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I'll fix em up if you can point them out.--v/r - TP 17:26, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

OK, nothing important, but ...

• The vacant slots are all 2 year slots. (two-year slots, hyphen and MOSNUM)
• and the signpost --> and The Signpost
• the Misplaced Pages wide top banner --> Misplaced Pages-wide
• Shortful in successful candidates is acceptable --> I don't know what shortful is?
• remaining two year seats --> two-year seats

That's all I saw-- thanks for the hard work! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:30, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I got them all. You missed "asume" though ;). I got it.--v/r - TP 17:33, 4 November 2011 (UTC)