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North Korean claim for Dokdo in infobox
I don't think it is not needed to describe the North Korean claim of Dokdo. Actually it claims entire South Korea. Japan and South Korea are disputing on the island. I suggest to remove its claim. --Cheol (talk) 05:13, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
- North Korea is a separate country, they have a separate claim on the island. It's no different than if China, Russia, or Barbados had a claim on the islands. The fact that North Korea disputes other places doesn't seem relevant to me. Qwyrxian (talk) 05:09, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
- We note the ROC claim on Tibet; it doesn't matter that their army has no physical way of getting there. Shii (tock) 05:17, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
I asked a citation for North Korean claim. And it's contradictory that at the end of the article, it says 'North Korea supports South Korean claim'. Any idea to fix the contradiction? --Cheol (talk) 09:28, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
- "According to the KCNA, Dokdo island has been the sacred territory of North Korea since ancient times." http://world.globaltimes.cn/asia-pacific/2011-02/626698.html Shii (tock) 09:30, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
- Both North and South Korea claim entire Korea to be their territory. NK supporting SK claim should be understood that they consider that Liancourt Rocks are part of Korea, not that they consider the islets are South Korean territory. --Kusunose 01:37, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
- Right, NK claims entire Korea including Dokdo. Do you think we need to describe the particular fact that is not only claim on islets in the infobox? --Cheol (talk) 02:41, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
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Why is this relevant? Maybe on the dispute page but it seems out of place here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.196.80.97 (talk) 17:55, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Good point. The only reason it's included seems to be that some agenda-pushing editors were fond of building their own home-made arguments about it, somehow along the implied idea that if you can see island X from country Y, that somehow strengthens country Y's claim to X. Interestingly, none of these agenda-pushing accounts ever bothered to spell out those arguments and their premises themselves (let alone source them); they were all merely busy writing diatribes about visibility as if something of enormous importance were hinging on it, without ever saying what it was. Fut.Perf. ☼ 18:01, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
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