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Correcting a typo in an article title

{{help me}} Can you please tell me how to edit the title of an article? I found one with an obvious typo. Jdsteakley (talk) 16:41, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't think you are autoconfirmed, so you don't have permission to do that. Please tell me the rename you would like, and I'll do it for you. fahadsadah (talk,contribs) 16:42, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for offering to make the correction on an article title. It is: Whistling Woods International Institute for Films, Media, Animationa and Media Arts. There is an extra a on Animation.--Jdsteakley (talk) 20:49, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

To 'rename' an article, we use a process called WP:MOVE. Please read about it before trying! Thanks,  Chzz  ►  16:45, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Commons Ambassador barnstar

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		I hereby award you the Commons Ambassador barnstar for all of your work classifying files on Commons plus making sure that images from English Misplaced Pages get transferred to Commons. Your work is noticed and appreciated! Royalbroil 12:47, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Images to Commons

Hi. I notice you copied a bunch of my images to Commons. At least I think that's what happened. I'm having a little trouble understanding how this works. The ones you did, a template says, "This file is now available on Wikimedia Commons as File:William Van Altena House May09.jpg." And I can still edit the image page, and it still has the Misplaced Pages categories, and such. But some others, that were done some time ago say "This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons. The description on its description page there is shown below." And I can't edit them or categorize. Can you explain this to me, or direct me to some resource regarding the "Commonizing" of images? I'd appreciate it. -Freekee (talk) 19:08, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

-- Hi, Freekee. First of all, thanks for photographing all those sites and uploading them. I want to go to work on Madison sites in the same sort of way. As for Commons, you probably already know some or most (or all) of what appears at <http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikimedia_commons>, which kind of explains the rationale for moving images from English-language Misplaced Pages to Commons. I'm not at all sure why you can't edit or categorize certain images that are now on Wikimedia Commons. Can you give me an example of one to take a look at? Jdsteakley (talk) 04:00, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

See File:Cedarburg-mill-pagoda.jpg. Notice there are no edit links. This was uploaded to WP, and then moved to Commons. -Freekee (talk) 04:42, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Oops, nevermind. I just checked my watchlist. After you moved the images to Commons, another user deleted the ones from WP. Okay, so what are the criteria for moving images there? Any free image? Should I be uploading them there in the first place? -Freekee (talk) 04:46, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Right, I think that generally it's better to upload images to Commons rather than to English Misplaced Pages. And if you've got the time and interest, it helps to transfer other peoples' images from English Misplaced Pages to Commons. (I initially got on to this because I've been a lot more involved with German Misplaced Pages than English Misplaced Pages since first becoming a Wikipedian last November.) Without looking back at the files of yours that have been deleted, I'm guessing it might have been royalbroil who did it, because he's an admin who can make such deletions. Yesterday he gave me a Commons barnstar for moving files to Commons. Quite a number of them were his images. Jdsteakley (talk) 12:54, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm acquainted with Royalbroil, and I think he's done some of mine in the past, but the latest ones were done by Luk and by Athaenara. The only issue I have with having images there instead of here is that the categorization is removed from here. Shouldn't there be a mention on the upload page, something like, "if your image is suitable for Wikimedia Commons, please consider uploading it there", at the very least? You guys are doing a lot of work moving all these images over. I've been editing here for several years, and still didn't know the deal on the Commons. -Freekee (talk) 16:03, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Can you tell me more precisely what sort of categorization is removed when an image gets moved to Commons, or point me to an example? And what you propose, a mention of Commons on the upload page, does exist. When you are on an English Misplaced Pages page and click on "upload" over on the left, you get this page: <http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Upload>. It specifically suggests that you instead upload the image at Commons. Jdsteakley (talk) 19:26, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

It just changes from WP/EN categorization to Commons cats. Not a big deal, I guess. That's not the page I get when I click "Upload file" on the menu bar. I get <http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Upload>. I wonder why you get a different page. Is that an issue with skins? So I was looking at the page you linked. It took me a minute to realize that you're supposed to click on the image type that you want to upload, and it will take you to a specialized upload page. Interesting. And I see that there's a huge banner about the Commons on the free image upload page. -Freekee (talk) 20:20, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Image?

I notice you added File:Benjamin Church House.jpg, to the NHRP list, but it doesn't seem to be showing. -Freekee (talk) 03:56, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm . . . not quite sure what the problem might be. I can see the image okay. I do notice that sometimes images fail to show up even in regular articles, and then if you click on reload (once or twice or three times!), they finally come up. I just figured this was some kind of minor system problem. Btw, I'm not very happy with the photo of the Benjamin Church House, since it's an old black and white photo from many years ago. Would you be interested in making a new photo of it? I also added crummy old black and white images of Immanuel Presbyterian and the Old Soldiers Home. Would you want to photograph them? -- And now I'd like to get back to something you asked earlier about the pictures moved to Commons. You remarked that some of your pictures that were moved a while ago by others had now been deleted in English Misplaced Pages, so that they exist only in Commons. I think that's what admins are supposed to do, just to prevent the redundancy and save storage space on the server. But you went on to remark that you could not edit your pictures on Commons, because there's no edit tab at the top of the page, and as an example you pointed me to your Cedarburg pagoda. Well, you can get to an edit tab. You just have to click on the blue link within the sentence: "The description on its description page there is shown below." (The words "description page" are the blue link.) The new page that comes up has all the edit tabs etc. at the top. Jdsteakley (talk) 14:11, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh, Estabrook Park! I was using Geohack to locate sites for my last photo hunt, and the location it gave me for the Church House didn't make sense, so I skipped it (I did the entire rest of the north shore that day). If I'd just read the article, I could have figured that one out. I should be able to get that one within the next week. Funny you should mention the Old Soldiers Home. The first time I went out looking for pics, I took all the remaining Historic Landmarks in Milwaukee (got five, couldn't find the sixth). On that day, I was at the VA center, and took a pic of the building, but I didn't know if was on the list, so I didn't shoot a pic suitable for WP.

The Church House pic still isn't showing for me. Maybe I have to clear my cache or something. Funny, it does show up for me here, though the article showed a different image at that time. It was another one of Sulfur's deleted pics with the same name as the current file.

As for the images, when I said there were no edit links, I was talking about WP/EN. But I've since discovered how that all works. When some WP/EN image pages had links, and some didn't, even though they were all on Commons, that was because the WP images hadn't been deleted yet. And I've also discovered how to make categories just for WP/EN on the Commons images. So it's all good, I guess. But I'm still curious why you have a different upload page than I do. -Freekee (talk) 04:20, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I got the pic. -Freekee (talk) 15:32, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Nice picture!Jdsteakley (talk) 16:52, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! -Freekee (talk) 16:58, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Dane County photos

I notice you enjoy photographing historic buildings and have added numerous photos to the Dane County NRHP article. That is great! You might wish to read Perspective control and Perspective control lens. If you do not use an SLR with a PC lens, check out "Perspective control in software" in the latter article.

I suggest, also, you that not replace perfectly fine existing photos with your photos just to have your photo there instead.

Motorrad-67 (talk) 14:12, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Motorrad-67! Thanks for writing. Yes, just in the past couple of weeks I have added quite a few pictures to the Dane County NRHP article, and I'm closing the gap. Now I've got to try to find the various mounds -- so far I've only photographed two. I've also added a few photos to the Milwaukee County page and hope to add more. I recently made a trip to Des Moines and shot a few for the Polk County, Iowa, page, and hope to visit Des Moines again next summer for some more. (The weather was kind of overcast when I was there.)

I am not using an SLR, just an inexpensive and somewhat broken digital camera (Fuji Finepix) that does not have perspective control. But I have modified the perspective on a number of pictures using Photoshop. By the way, on the page you recommend on "Perspective Control," one illustration is of Madison's Bashford House. Did you notice my photo of it on the Dane County NRHP page? That was modified with Photoshop.

As for replacing your photo of the Lutheran Church with mine, it seemed to me -- without consulting with you about it in advance -- that there were a few advantages to the photo I uploaded yesterday. The first, and of course this is a matter of "perspective" (haha), is that your photo contains a motorcycle, which some might regard as detracting from the picture. Please be assured I do appreciate fun features (the Travelocity gnome at the Eiffel tower, the Great Wall of China, etc.). The second thing is that the photo I uploaded has the dimensions of 2,848 × 2,136 pixels, whereas yours is 600 x 592 pixels. Misplaced Pages has language on the upload page encouraging users to make use of the largest photo (and highest resolution) they have, which I've taken to mean that bigger is to be preferred. Third, the photo I uploaded has a somewhat detailed description containing information that is not otherwise available on Misplaced Pages, since there's no article on the First Lutheran Church. And finally, I did add your photo to mine under the "Other versions" rubric, and vice versa, so that anyone who viewed my file would be guided to yours. One thing I do like about your photo of the church is that it is a straight-on view (I'm not sure what the photographic lingo for that is), whereas mine is slightly angled to the side, which suggests more about the length of the building. But I'm happy to leave your photo where it is, on the Dane County page. What I might consider doing is copying the information on the church from my picture to yours. Would you mind?

It occurs to me after reading your message that up to now I haven't marked my uploads so that I'm notified if there are any changes to them. Perhaps I will start doing that....

I was interested to read on this page that you don't want your photos moved to Commons without your permission. Mind if I inquire what you see as the difference between a photo being on Commons versus on English Misplaced Pages? I've uploaded all of my photos to Commons, since I thought that's what Misplaced Pages wants.

Jdsteakley (talk) 16:33, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Photos of FLW buildings in Madison

Nice shots of the Robert M. Lamp House and the Eugene A. Gilmore House. By any chance do you have any photos of the John C. Pew House (3650 Lake Mendota Drive), Eugene Van Tamelen House (5817 Anchorage Rd) or the Walter Rudin House (110 Martinette Trail)? --Waltloc (talk) 16:03, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words. Sorry, I've never visited those three. One friend of mine here in Madison is a big FLW devotee, and he tells me that I missed an excellent tour a month ago that would have given me an opportunity to see more than I have to date. Apparently not all of the three you name are readily accessible. Well, I will just have to see what is possible. Jdsteakley (talk) 16:36, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Rowley House in Dane County NRHP table

Hi JD ... I see that you changed the spelling of the Rowley House listing in the Dane County NRHP list a while back from Newman C. Rowley House to Numan C. Rowley House. Are you certain of that spelling? This document has the spelling as Newman. I've emailed the Middleton Historical Society to see what they have to say, but I thought I'd check with you as well. What is your source for the Numan spelling? --sanfranman59 (talk) 18:15, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi again. FYI ... I heard back from Scott Bachmeier at the Middleton Historical Society. He says that the correct spelling is Newman. --sanfranman59 (talk) 21:38, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Wow, you wrote back before I managed to reply. When changing the spelling to "Numan", I simply adopted the spelling of the name as it appears in a plaque on the front of the building. That plaque was put up by the Middleton Historical Society itself. Isn't it embarrassing that they have the name misspelled on their own plaque? -- Especially since the building houses the Middleton Historical Society. Well, that's Wisconsin for you.... Reminds me of all those handpainted signs I used to see when I was a kid with a backwards s. Hang on -- I will upload the plaque in a minute. Jdsteakley (talk) 21:42, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Here it is: http://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Rowley_House_Middleton_plaque.JPG Jdsteakley (talk) 21:55, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm ... interesting. A Google search on "Numan C. Rowley" returned one document with that spelling. I've emailed Scott again to see what he has to say about the plaque. As you probably know, it's not at all unusual for historical documents to have a variety of spellings for proper names. I run into this all the time when doing genealogical research on my family. Since both the Wisconsin Historical Society and the NPS have the spelling as Newman, I think it's probably best to use that in the Misplaced Pages NRHP table. I'll let you know if I hear anything further from Scott Bachmeier. --sanfranman59 (talk) 22:16, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

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