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hi what do you mean by that? I just added the name 'Persia' becauce in many western texts this name havee ben used and people have to know Persia = Iran . Than is all ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.207.197.66 (talk • contribs)

Innapropriate comments

Once again, comments like this are innapropriate, as is spamming other user's talk pages insisting that they take a course of action on an article. As we've been through this song and dance before, I'll simply remind you that you will be blocked if you keep this up. --InShaneee 21:53, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Go right ahead and initiate an RfC if you feel that's neccisary, but that doesn't allow you to put an attack of that sort on a talk page, whether you originally wrote it or not. Nor would you be excempt from the wikipedia policies I have been doing my best to enforce while an RfC is ongoing. --InShaneee 22:12, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Firstly, I never said anything about you, I was commenting about your conduct, which I do consider innapropriate. Secondly, read the first few lines of WP:RPA. El C's entitled to his opinion, as am I. Finally, I acknowledged that the words were not your own in the comment above, and I, along with most other wikipedians, and I don't plan to dignify your demands for an apology with a response. --InShaneee 22:47, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Say what you like, but the fact remains: I am doing my best to fully investigate all sides of the situation, and if you respond to a personal attack, no matter how vicious, you are still in violation of wikipedia policy. --InShaneee 18:37, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm being scolded for incivility

Inshanee seems to consider it a personal attack to call another user Iranian, or an Iranian nationalist.

I see no evidence that he's scolding anyone on the Iranian side for personal attacks, even when they consist of accusations like "racist" or "Zionist".

I don't quite understand why he's taking the tack that he is. He seems sincere and well-meaning. Zora 23:01, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Regarding incivility, I was told off by Inshanee for calling the Iranian Wikipedians a "gang". Fair enough, perhaps. But when I reported this and publicised its contents so that at least three admins could see it (including on Inshanee's talk page), it was ignored and not even a warning was given to the author. I do not believe that Inshanee is as sincere and well-meaning as Zora says. The consequence of this blatant unfairness (and perhaps sympathy for the racists) by the admins is that people are quitting or suspending their involvement in Misplaced Pages, including Inahet, who has never had a warning from an admin and always avoided conflict and me. A lot of Xebat/Diyako's anger - which led to a one month ban - is precisely due to the failure of admins to respond to bad behaviour by those who can only be described as Persian chauvinists. Misplaced Pages is a bad joke and either the organisation has to change or content will not be taken seriously. If you don't like this comment here, Aucaman, because it may compromise the ridiculous kangaroo court trial set up against you, then please delete it or move it to my talk page.--Ahwaz 06:44, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

As for Zora, I am amazed at her calmness in the face of provocation, for in my mind she has received the worst treatment by some editors and has not responded in kind. However, I'm not convinced by her conviction that sitting tight and working within the rules actually works, when those with the power act unfairly. There are laws in Iran granting equality to all before the law and freedom of speech, but operating within the law to express your opinion never works. The only solution when the powerful and corrupt is to oppose them and their system. The same goes for Misplaced Pages. The system is outrageously unfair and the rules do not work, so the only answer is confrontation. Perhaps in America, where people are free (except in Guatanamo), this seems odd, but when you see the powerful behave badly then you can understand that no rule or law can ever bring them to account. Opposition is the only way.--Ahwaz 07:00, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Hi Aucaman. Just a quick note to thank you for voting on my RfA, which recently passed 62/13/6. I want to let you know that I will do my best to address all concerns that were raised during the RfA. I will also do my very best live up to this new responsibility and to serve the community, but please let me know if I make any mistakes or if you have any feedback at all on my actions. Finally, if there is anything that I can assist you with - please don't hesitate to ask. Cheers TigerShark 04:07, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Hurriya notice board has been deleted a few seconds ago

We tried but the system is against us, what can we do? I suggest we create an Arab-related board, a Kurdistan board and an Assyrian one since regional boards are less likely to be put up for deletion. We could certainly collaborate, I'm sure that isn't against Wiki policies. --Inahet 07:10, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2

I notice that you everything you work on is related to Persians and other groups problems with those issues

May I ask you how you are an expert on such topics as scholars from the Middle East and their biographies or the Persian Gulf, and Kurds? 69.196.139.250 22:14, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh, ya I also cited your statments about the fact that you wanted to cite that certain Muslim clerics have okayed sex with animals and children. How do you justify this statement and thought and even treat it like it could be true?69.196.139.250 22:16, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

IN reply to you this is what I observe, alongside others....

These are your direct quotes on the Khoemini discussion page ;

I had seen some literature out there suggesting that Khomenini approved of sex with children and animals. Now someone has added some of these claims into this article. I'm not going to take them out, but the article is going to receive a dispute tag until these information are verified. AucamanTalk 04:23, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Here is a direct quote from you to user:Pecher; I've added some stuff about Khomeini's views on non-Muslims, but people might try to take them out. Could you keep an eye on that article as well? AucamanTalk 14:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC) This is verified on user:Pecher's talk page.

What is all the interest you and Pecher have on Khoeimini and other Iranian clerics. Also your articles on Ahmadenajid all show a disturbing trend that you are trying to paint some sort of picture. It is like connect the dots.

Here are a list of articles you have worked on;

• Human rights abuses by the Iraqi insurgency
• Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Israel
• Controversies surrounding Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
• International reactions to the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy
• Opinions on the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy
• Greater Middle East
• Turkish Kurdistan

Major contributions

These are the pages you have made major edits to (or am working on right now):

• People of Turkey
• Kurdish people
• Turkish people
• Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
• Ayatollah Khomeini
• Ayatollah Khamenei
• Middle East

Wow human rights abuses in the Iraqi insurgency! Very odd and specific topic! Ahmadinejad and Israel! The Mohammed cartoons. All your edits really benefit in making Israel look good compared to the rest of the Middle East. Answer me this are you an Israeli citizen too? I think you are on an agenda. All your edits against Iranians (from Kurds to Persians,etc.) since Iran is seen as the biggest threat to Israel and all your other edits in the Arab fields. Also trying being a force in tension between Arab and Iranian and Turkish editors. All at the benefit of Israel.

69.196.139.250 02:17, 7 April 2006 (UTC)