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Campaign Against Female Genital Mutilation

Looks good! Thanks for creating the article. Cheers! Jim1138 (talk) 08:04, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Campaign Against Female Genital Mutilation

I have formally nominated this article for deletion. You can see my reasons for this nomination here: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Campaign_Against_Female_Genital_Mutilation. Lastly, if you are IP 64.118.217.166 please only comment on the deletion nomination from either your IP address or from your user name by logging in. To comment from both could be considered sockpuppetry, see: WP:PUPPET. I assume you are 64.118.217.166 because this user account has only edited the same pages that 64.118.217.166 has: http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/64.118.217.166. I have posted a similar message on that user's talk page. Thank you. Vietminh (talk) 20:00, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

To say someone is the same person because they edited the same pages is absolutely ridiculous. Are you aware that some people are only interested in a particular subject and thus will edit the same pages? Ndbriggs (talk) 01:14, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

It's not "absolutely ridiculous" at all, the IP address I listed here has only edited the exact same pages as this user, and began editing at the exact same time. Furthermore, the IP address has joined into discussion or began editing immediately after this User has tried to submit content which was deemed inappropriate, and further to that the User crafts their arguments and writes very similar to the IP address listed above. Coincidence? Maybe. A new user who accidentally forgot to login before continuing editing? Maybe. I have no way of knowing at all, but if the latter was true I wanted to inform this user that it is against Misplaced Pages guidelines to vote from two different accounts, information which is very valuable to them. Vietminh (talk) 03:23, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

A new user does not have to login to edit. Their IP is their signature. Your argument above is baseless. There was nothing "inappropriate" about what was submitted. It is my personal opinion that you are biased against me and I will refer you for investigation. If you truly are trying to help on wiki, there are so many useless information on wiki that should be targeted instead of notable topics like the one i submitted. Would you like me to send you some since you seem to have so much time on your hands. Cherylbarksdale (talk) 05:09, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Let's take a breather

I just read your post, let's relax about this for a second. Firstly, I am not attacking you on this, but what you have done is a violation of Misplaced Pages policy. I understand that it is in good faith and that you may be new to Misplaced Pages, this is not a big deal. It's just hard on my end to tell good faith from bad faith when I'm getting confusing signals. Now, the issue here is you have recruited people to comment, and as I say this is against policy. Secondly, I'm not attacking you on this, I just had to figure out what is going on. I do have a bias, we all have biases and interests, that's how this whole encylopedia works. But before you begin to think I am something that I'm not, you should know that I am the user who got the Female Genital Mutilation page named as such, before I came along it was called Female Genital Cutting. I also worked very hard with other users to bring the content of that page more in line with the consensus in the medical and NGO community. If I have a bias, it's a bias that is in line with your bias.

As for the page you created, the problem with this is that the organization cagem is simply not notable enough to merit it's own page, the only sources that say it exists is the cagem website itself. Clearly and obviously there is a worldwide campaign to get rid of FGM, anyone familiar with the subject knows this. But the premise of the article misleads people into thinking something exists which does not. Your colleague who commented on the AfD is right, I haven't been to Africa. But the way Misplaced Pages works is that we need a reliable, english language source that says something exists or something is going on. Otherwise it's just hearsay and opinion. The sources you provided clearly show there are multiple global campaigns ongoing, but they do not show any connection between any of them.

So the way forward on this is pretty simple. For the Sockpuppet investigation: If you could Fristly, acknowledge on the investigation page that you understand how what you did violated Misplaced Pages guidelines and secondly, if you or your colleagues could remove the comments they made in support of your position on the AfD page (article for deletion) and if they could refrain from commenting on that page I will close the sockpuppet investigation and remove my comment on that page about sockpuppetry.

For the article you created: In all likelihood the page you created will get deleted for the reasons I gave on the AfD. I welcome you to modify the relevant sections on the FGM page or other similar pages to remedy the information gap you believe exists. I hope this brings everything to a good conclusion for you, please reply on my talk page so I know what's up :). Vietminh (talk) 05:38, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

• I'd also appreciate if you removed the comments on the AfD referencing vandalism on my part, that incident was itself a misunderstanding between myself and another user. I edited Misplaced Pages for years before I made this account, and then I made this account and used it for vandalism. When I decided to grow up I opted to use this as my legitimate account so as not to hide from the things I had done. So my point is I understand how it feels to be in your position, like you're being baselessly attacked for no reason. There's no point in starting up a mudslinging contest though, what I have done in the past won't hold any sway over what has occurred here in the present. Cheers. Vietminh (talk) 05:52, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For creating an article that is long over due. I will do my best to expand the article and find sources. Ndbriggs (talk) 01:11, 23 February 2012 (UTC)