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Remarks

1. Please post your comments where applicable. DON'T create a new heading every time. Usually the headings represent specific topics and I know how to use "(diff)".
2. I will post responses below your comment right here, so "watch" my page (or select to watch whatever you edit in your prefs). Same I will expect from you when I message you. Otherwise, continuity is completely lost.
3. You can spy if you want... Only morons don't use e-mail when they want to conspire...

 NikoSilver   22:14, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Έχεις γράμμα. --Hectorian 22:32, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hey Niko, I'd really like thank you for taking the time to vote at my RfA. I withdrew due to certain controversies, but I appreciated your vote and hope to see you here in the future. Thanks again. --Khoikhoi 05:15, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

HEYA

Hey man thanks for helping me out, I just created my first page, tell me what you think here!

http://en.wikipedia.org/Vassilis_Tsiartas

Reaper7 16:41, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Ciao

Scusa se ti rispondo solo ora, ma ho notato adesso il tuo messaggio. Effettivamente sarebbe stato troppo tardi, in quanto avevo già mandato l'avviso di violazione prima di scrivere quel messaggio. Comunque per un disguido tecnico è stato fortunato e non ha avuto nessun blocco, dunque non ha nulla di cui lamentarsi. Il tenore del suo messaggio a Latinus mi aveva un po irritato, devo dire, con quella che appariva come la riendicazione di un suo diritto ad infrangere le regole se si riteneva nel giusto. --Aldux 11:45, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Di nuovo io! :-) Riguardo alla paura che svaniscano tutte le differenze che rendono un paese interessante, c'è poco che possa dire: nazionalismo e cosmopolitismo si sono sempre contrapposti, certo anch'io come te amo la mia terra e spero che non diventi uguale a tutte le altre. Amare il proprio paese non è essere nazionalisti; questo lo si diventa quanto si sostiene le azioni del proprio paese indiscriminatamente, senza giudicare indipendentemente ciò che è giusto e ciò che è sbagliato. Così la vedo io.

Quanto al secondo punto, ciò che definisce una lingua é l'essere dotato di una codificazione e di una letteratura distinta; inoltre pare vi siano più differenze che fra serbo e croato, e in genere i linguisti l'accettano come una lingua distinta. In genere penso che tu dia troppa importanza a gente come l'editore Macedonia, un canadese che si è costruito un mondo tagliato su misura dei suoi sogni; mentre gli slavi macedoni che vivono in Macedonia sono (quasi sempre) molto più ragionenevoli. Salutoni!--Aldux 23:16, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

No, no!!! Mi hai frainteso; non penso assolutamente che tu sia un nazionalista, figuriamoci poi uno di quelli estremi e sciovinisti! Volevo soltanto descrivere un pericolo possibile causato dal nazionalismo, per mostrare la necessità del giusto mezzo, che concili universale e particolare evitando tanto Scilla (il nazionalismo sciovinistico) che Cariddi (la globalizzazione che appiattisce tutto). Quanto all'ultima domanda, personalmente non ho visto gruppi di editori "internazionali" contrapporsi a quelli "nazionali"; ci sono singoli che mettono in campo le loro rispettive idee. Ciao :-)--Aldux 22:30, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Ho dato una occhiata alla talk, però non riesco ancora a vedere questa grande cospirazione, nemmeno nella talk che mi hai indicato . La stragrande maggioranza dei partecipanti sono sono Greci e Macedoni; i non-balcanici (gli "impartial third") sono apparentemente sei: Jonathunder, Alex Bakharev, Khoikhoi, High Elf, ChrisO. A me sembra che si siano divisi a metà, con alcuni convinti che sarebbe opportuno inserire FYROM nella testa, altri che ci debba restare solo RoM. Personalmente inclino per la versione proposta di Chris. Comunque, per ora l'articolo è bloccato, dunque nessuno potrà metterci mano. Ciao.--Aldux 18:11, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Reply

It's very good, very very good :-) keep up the good work... --Latinus 15:04, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Check your e-mail. --Latinus 17:22, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Very nice!it must had been kinda difficult to create it...too many numbers!continue like this,και το βραβείο θα έρθει και από μένα!:) --Hectorian 18:15, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Bravo kai apo mena gia to article List of countries by Coast/Area ratio, sou estila idi kai vravio!!!

• Mproris na grapsis sto Nr -180. ( akatanomastoi... ) kai F.Y. mprosta ?

Steile mou e-mail sto x_katselos@yahoo.de

Ta leme argotera ! --Asteraki 13:29, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

coast/area

I think they are, I checked a few of them and they were the same. Just wondering because theres this horrendously innaccurate list List of countries by length of coastline which I just put up for deletion, so as long as they didnt come from there! -- Astrokey44|talk 14:17, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

All the figures would have to be changed to the CIA ones I guess -- Astrokey44|talk 14:28, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Wow that looks great now! thanks for doing that, Ive withdrawn the nomination to delete -- Astrokey44|talk 15:20, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Not really, I know a little of it. why? -- Astrokey44|talk 23:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry couldnt help you there, but if you saw someone's signature you liked you could always copy some of the code because its displayed in full on the discussion pages (pretty obvious but it took me a while to realise that when I was looking for a sig) -- Astrokey44|talk 09:40, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

It seems to be shorter but it looks the same -- Astrokey44|talk 11:40, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:

Well, isn't this nationalistic ;-) --HolyRomanEmperor 21:28, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Ha! Ofcourse it is! What did you think?  NikoSilver   22:05, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

exeis grammaaaaaa! --Hectorian 16:59, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

and again... --Hectorian 18:53, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

haha!pigaine:)oxi den exei 'a', alla einai ki afto exipno... --Hectorian 19:03, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

mono pou ego den eimai salonikios,lol... --Hectorian 20:00, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

kane ton kopo na deis ena gramma... --Hectorian 21:30, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Pssss! E, auto den to perimena. Kala den exei to theo tou. Koita na deis kati andres pou forane pantelonia... S'euxaristo pantos. Miskin 09:34, 3 April 2006 (UTC) Sou esteila email. Miskin 14:17, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I have been asking Greek wikipedians this. Is it true that there is a large Anti-Bosniak sentiment in Greece like the article says? --HolyRomanEmperor 20:50, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Emathes na karfwneis?hehe...bravo re! --Hectorian 00:23, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

gramma --Hectorian 00:56, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Καλώς, αλλά τι μπορούμε να κάνουμε; Τουλάχιστον υπάρχει και η διεθνείς ονομασία ΦΥΡΟΜ Politis 15:47, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Exeis gramma! --Hectorian 16:10, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Ξανά --Hectorian 16:41, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Den xreiazontai leptomereies...to apotelesma metraei:) --Hectorian 16:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Τα έχω χάσει λίγο με την συζήτησή σας σχετικά με την φυρομ και τους φίλους μας από αυτή την χώρα, αλλά νομίζω ότι κάνετε καλή δουλειά με τον Εκτορ και κρατάτε τους τόνους. Politis 13:23, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Εν συντομία, πια είναι η σωστή θέση στο θέμα της εν λόγω χώρας όσον αφορά το wiki άρθρο; Thanks. Politis 10:51, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Template substing

Hey; I was just going through and substing some user warning templates, and I noticed that at least a couple of them were left by you. See Misplaced Pages:template substitution for more on this, but the basic idea is, you just add {{subst:NPA}} instead of {{NPA}} and the text of the NPA warning gets permanently added to the page, instead of having to load from the template page every time someone views it. Also, you don't have to include the Template: in your links; {{Template:NPA}} and {{NPA}} do the same thing. There's no reason not to do it, and eases the load on the servers. Mangojuice 05:24, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

To simplify. Just do {{subst:BLAH}} whenever you use a template, espec. on a user warning page. Thanks! Mangojuice 12:46, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Den ime siguros an i epilogi tu kalogeropupu ine sineti. Min ksehnas oti opios psahni ta polla, hani ke ta liga (adika anisiho? Pes mu me e-mail). Edwy 14:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Yparxei periptwsi na mposoume na mazepsoume tis versions? na exoume mia pro-skopjian, mia pro-greek kai mia me kai ta dio onomata? --Hectorian 17:02, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Niko, su eho stili 2 e-mail. Edwy 18:01, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Ksana. Edwy 19:26, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

FYROM debate

Hi, I am looking at the discussion, but I can't really get into it. My personal opinion is that both Republic of Macedonia and FYROM must be present in the article, because they are used as formal names in different occasions. I don't mind the wording, but I'd like to be cleared out which name in which case is used. I couldn't quite grasp what I have to look at --Komitata 20:58, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

User:Macedonia

Definately dubious geographical and historical knowledge. But come on, I've seen worse, at least he mentions Greek culture! :) - FrancisTyers 00:02, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

HAHAHA! :) Fortunately no-one in their right mind takes this seriously :) - FrancisTyers 09:53, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I hate nationalism + the parts under FOPOGian and Bulgarian control remained occupied and its people are without even the most basic human rights. :)) I guess he needs to look at a dictionary, un N, for Nationalist. - FrancisTyers 12:02, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Macedonia

No, I don't want to get involved in this issue again. The country's name is Republic of Macedonia, and the Greeks should just get over it, but I am sick of arguing with Greeks about this. Adam 01:45, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, meaning that if I wanted to fix the poll or something, I wouldn't have invited you to take part. Right? Thanks for the implied compliment for impartiality.  NikoSilver  12:38, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Niko, protino na svisis afto pu molis egrapses ya ta stomata. Edwy 13:01, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Ya des ke afto . Profanos pistevun oti oli i eleftheri makedonia ine "makedones" me afti tin "asthenia" ;-) Isos etsi exigite o hartis to hristi Macedonia. Edwy 13:01, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Foverh h ataka sou sthn koubenta gia tous akatanomastous. Gia to sbhsimo isws kai na eprepe, an arxisoun kai skouzoun. --Avg 13:04, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Not needed, I was renamed at the first of April (rename log), so my cuurent account came into existence when I created the Latinus account. The Latinus account has now been deleted from the database. Edwy 20:43, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Niko thanks so much...I'll delete it immediately.--Avg 17:26, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

De ftanei pou to esbhsa kai ebala kai sxolio? Pes mou ti allo na kanw. --Avg 17:33, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

{{npa}} There isn't any nationality called "FYROM" nationals. Please do not use insulting language. Bitola 20:39, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Niko, nomizo oti prepi na allaxis tin ipografi su. Emena mu arese pio poli i proti rithmizmeni iposgrafi pu ihes. Edwy 20:46, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

BTW, Niko, you are not allowed to call me a UK national. It's a grave personal attack agaist the British people ;-) Edwy 20:51, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

You know, Im getting really tired of Bitola. How on earth is "FYROM nationals" a personal attack - if it appears on the Greek Embassy in Washington DC's website , then we can be certain it's not a personal attack. Not to mention that according to his logic, the entire page List of UAE Nationals is an attack page. Edwy 11:32, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

No I won't, I don't see why you have to cling to that position of yours. I can call them "Macedonians" when needed without the cosmos ending. In my opinion, the three of you are equally disruptive and childish. Edwy 11:37, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Bitola is just trying to push his agenda. There was no problem with Fyromians as well. He just spins it as if it was. If he insists on this matter, I'll be more than happy to go to mediation, even arbitration for that matter. I'm not a little child to be scared by any report. And yes I'm determined and I will not go further back even an inch. If it results in me getting disciplined, it's worth it. The issue is far more important. --Avg 11:39, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

• Simiosi

Geia sou file. Mia simiosi. Ti tha eleges ean oloi mas anerousame ( enoo... , na anakalousame ) tis psifous mas apo tin gnosti psifoforia kai ( ksana-psifizontas... ) na stirizame mia ek ton protaseon 4 i 9? -Pou einai kai oi kaliteres gia emas. Tha ithela ti gnomi sou. Ti pistevis kai ti protinis episis esi gia to olo thema? An thelis apantise mou se aftin edo ti selida. --Asteraki 16:24, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Geia sou file! Ean thelis mporis na mou stilis e-mail, se afto pou emfanizete sti diefthinsi pou dino stin Aggliki wikipedia. asteraki_wiki(at)yahoo.com --Asteraki 14:18, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

U 2 :-) --Avg 12:24, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Giou faoul! (oxi den esteila mail alla h douleia egine:-)) --Avg 12:48, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

ProhibitOnions's RfA

Thank you, NikoSilver!
	...for voting in my RFA. It passed with a result of 58/2/0. If you have any comments, or for some reason need any new-admin help, please let me know here. Regards, ProhibitOnions 22:59, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

And how might I be of assistance? ProhibitOnions 15:52, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Angr already did it

Just to let you know, the vandal has been blocked for 24 hours and the Macedonia talk page reverted. User:Angr got there a couple of minutes before I did. Let me know if it starts to happen again. ProhibitOnions 16:03, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Poll

Yeah, I did notice after I made my comment actually; I think that the page should probably be archived to include just the poll to be honest. I think a fewer smaller polls - lasting a week each - to solve the individual issues could have sorted it out myself; but there you go ;) Robdurbar 16:20, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello; I wouldn't worry about those votes which support other options (and indirectly oppose others) – hence approval voting. The rule is intended to prohibit votes that explicity oppose any single option directly (e.g., Oppose bla, bla). For example, take a glance at the Talk:Republic of Ireland name poll (recently administered) for an example of what the rules are meant to prevent ... in that case, opposing votes were disallowed. I hope this helps. E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 19:13, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback; I'll keep it in mind. Note that this vote explicitly links to and indicates approval voting upfront, so I think it's clear already. (This clarity is something I overlooked with the the RoI poll, though.) And I think the poll has garnered substantial support to this point... so much so that it may be opportune to close it early, but more input solidifies a preferred option. And if individuals cannot or will not overcome the hurdles they identify, just as we are trying to, then it perhaps is better that they remain silent or in abstention. E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 19:35, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Go ahead ... e-mail me if you wish. E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 19:41, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Republic of Macedonia as blog

Talk:Republic of Macedonia and the Talk pages of a lot of the related articles have been way too active for me to really follow at this point. It's true that it wasn't that long ago that I was encouraging people to use the Talk page more and to edit war less. I'm not convinced that the current level of Talk page activity represents an increased interest in improving the article collaboratively, however; I'm concerned that polls can be needlessly divisive on top of the concerns I raised about them at Talk:Republic of Macedonia.

In any case, we shall see how things develop. In spite of my "more heat than light" worries, I am optimistic that more attention to these articles will lead to better thinking about them in the long run and thereby to eventual improvement. Jkelly 17:14, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

List of countries by Coast/Area ratio

Oh. When I wrote "cleanup?" down, I was cleaning up. Specifically, I removed redundant spaces. That's all. =) __earth 03:19, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Google test

I was thinking that the easiest and most accurate google test should be:

Option 1: "republic of macedonia" -"former yugoslav republic of macedonia" 1.75M results

Option 2: "former yugoslav republic of macedonia" 4.47M results

As simple as that. I can't think of any flaw (each option automatically cancels the other). What do you think? --Avg 17:58, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I checked it too and found similar results. Only problem is that you have ommited this option, which yields some hundreds of millions of results that nobody knows to who they correspond (Greece or FYROM or other -like the... artist).  NikoSilver  19:07, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

No re :-) Macedonia is not an official name and is not of a concern. It has its own disambiguation page anyway. What we are interested in is what people prefer between FYROM and ROM (only).--Avg 19:12, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Bre yes, I tell you, it was discussed previously extensively at the other poll and in all similar discussions. Check the archives (<-nobody can dispute that point!).  NikoSilver  19:17, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

• Simiosi2

Geia sou file! Ean thelis mporis na mou stilis e-mail, se afto pou emfanizete sti diefthinsi pou dino stin Aggliki wikipedia. asteraki_wikipedia(at)yahoo.gr --Asteraki 18:24, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Den mu ehis pi tis exeliksis me ton andoni akoma. Ti su ipe? --LionKing 08:53, 13 April 2006 (UTC)