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MBisanz and WP:NotCensored
Just expanding on the thinking behind the two remedy proposals I made. I understand the restrictions on this case, but they seem to be depriving Fæ of a level playing field in a number of ways. Its especially regretable that MBisanz once again chose to open proceedings with a diff bomb. An accusation can be made using a single diff and one or two words - but it is generally impossible to adequately refute one without using at least twenty times as many words. This is especially so when the accusation has extra weight by being made by a crat. So Fæ is effectively prevented from adequately defending himself. Im not arguing that MBisanz's participation in this witch hunt requires a desysop, he does heaps of useful work so that would be a shame. Yet a stern warning does seem called for. As Varnent argued, its desirable that Arbs display more severity towards the witch hunters and their supporter rather than towards their victim. By comming down relatively hard on MB, the arbs would create some space to possibly gently advise Fæ to consider taking a step back from involvement in wiki politics for a while. That might be in his best interests especially if no way can be found to address the off wiki harassment. If it becomes necessary to gently advise Fæ, I hope Arbs can at least formally recognise that its understandable that not all his recent posting have been perfectly collegial. Even the strongest characters would be distressed at the blind eye many seem to be turning to the sustained campaign of harassment.
Tension over WP:NotCensored is perhaps a reason why some good faith editors are concerned about some of Fæ's editing. The actual wording at WP:NOTCENSORED does seem to allow certain forms of limited censoring, but while we have the WP:Notsored policy shortcut, editors can claim "WP is not censored" to support them including shocking material. Limited censorship is a good thing, obviously its best not to have extreme porn that glorifies rape, and theres all kinds of other sorts of highly offensive material we might be better off without. Theres is little point in a regular editor proposing this sort of change on WP:Not - but if Arbs wanted to take this up they could maybe get support from the Foundation for a policy changing proposal that could only be denied by consensus, instead of requiring consensus to make? As a moderate social conservative, I feel such a measure would be a way to get a good result from this case. But most might see the measure as a victory by the WR accounts. So again it would be useful if MBisanz is warned or admonished so as to avoid any appearance that Arbs help witch hunters profit from their actions. FeydHuxtable (talk) 14:57, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- With regard to your WP:NONCENSORED proposal, please refer to my comment on the Workshop page. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 15:42, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- What you're suggesting is outright surrender. Some people don't like some of the content we assemble, they witch-hunt an admin, so we should give up on our ideals? I can't imagine a more pitiful response! Perhaps you don't see it as a loss because you think "limited censorship is a good thing" - it is not. We already have policies to exclude what is actually illegal, which might include some content of the type you describe, but we most assuredly should not see that as a good thing, nor add anything to it voluntarily. Your solution is - perhaps - one step above an ArbCom statement that "Fae is desysopped because homosexuals are unwelcome on Misplaced Pages". Wnt (talk) 15:47, 31 May 2012 (UTC)