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The result of the debate was delete. — FireFox (υ|τ) 12:22, 23 April 2006
Lugola
NN linux user group. No alexa ranking (not suprising considering the problems Alexa and linux have). A google search reveals 273 unique results, most of which are sites which simply list large numbers of linux groups. Delete. --Hetar 00:02, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. -- Kicking222 00:43, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. _-M P-_ 04:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. SorryGuy 04:45, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Terence Ong 14:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. — FireFox (υ|τ) 12:23, 23 April 2006
Furfire
This is the second time that this webcomic has been nominated. The first nomination can be seen here and resulted in no consensus. My grounds for the nomination are similar, that this is not a notable website. You can see this furry webcomic here. If you take a look at the original nomination made last year, you'll see that it had an Alexa rank of 1.5 million, it has now fallen to nothing. A look at their forums here, which have been online for around 9 months has managed to attract 45 users. Googling "Forrest dreams studio", the website name, gives back less than 50 hits. I don't think this website is notable. - Hahnchen 00:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- This has been listed on Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Webcomics/Deletion. –Abe Dashiell 00:19, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Completely non-notable. -- Kicking222 00:46, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. -Dawson 02:46, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, how on Earth did this survive a nomination? -Objectivist-C 03:20, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, it's a regularly updated webcomic. The article needs cleanup, not deletion. Refer the issue to Webcomics. --AlexWCovington (talk) 03:59, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment - Do you think that all regularly updated websites are notable? - Hahnchen 04:22, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment - Do you think all failed AFDs deserve renoms? --AlexWCovington (talk) 08:59, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment - Obviously not. - Hahnchen 11:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment - Do you think all failed AFDs deserve renoms? --AlexWCovington (talk) 08:59, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment - Do you think that all regularly updated websites are notable? - Hahnchen 04:22, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, only 9 site link to it. --Quiddity 09:41, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Nowhere near notable enough for even a short article. --Calton | Talk 14:02, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, nn webcomic. --Terence Ong 14:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, No fame, no influence, no popularity, no point. Average Earthman 16:52, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 05:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Pete is a Pogo Stick
A series of Macromedia flash cartoons hosted at Keen Toons. The Keen guys usually do webcomics, and have some professional flair in that area, so I don't normally nominate their comics. However, their foray into Flash cartoons is merely a sideshow distraction. In the world of Flash animation, KeenToons do not have clout. Googling "Pete is a Pogo Stick" brings back 10 unique hits, which is less than Super Monkey Poop Fight and Excitebike: Trouble on the Tracks did. This really isn't Xiao Xiao. - Hahnchen 00:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. -- Kicking222 00:50, 22 April 2006 (UTC) (P.S.: Xiao Xiao is awesome.)
- Delete per nom. Calsicol 02:38, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge into Keen Toons, since the series is cancelled. --AlexWCovington (talk) 04:02, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, nn webcomic. --Terence Ong 14:06, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Crakorjack 16:06, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, nn webcomic M1ss1ontomars2k4 00:31, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete Currently NN. Startup account 20:22, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as above. - Runcorn 21:40, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was keep, no consensus. SushiGeek 06:56, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Double vaginal, double anal
Impossible sex act. It's a prominent joke in the movie Orgazmo and the source of the name for Trey Parker and Matt Stone's band DVDA, but it doesn't need its own article. Brian G. Crawford 00:06, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep its a valid term.
- Merge into DVDA (band). --
Rory096(block) 01:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC) - Delete per nom. Metamagician3000 01:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep could probably use more sources. It's probably notable enough purely for its role as the band's etymology and for its pop-culture references in addition to being notable as a sex act.Cheapestcostavoider 01:24, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, Stone and Parker do not confer instant notability on every neologism / piece of sexual slang they coin. A short description on the "band" page will be just dandy. Deizio 01:52, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: I'm pretty sure they didn't coin this. I mean, it shows up in descriptions of pornographic films all the time. A Google search yields something like 70K hits just for "double vaginal, double anal." There are a number of pornos that use DVDA in the title., . This is at least as widespread as a lot of the other sexual slang already here.Cheapestcostavoider 03:03, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Redirect to DVDA (band), merge as appropriate. Perhaps not physically impossible, but certainly not a sex act of any social significance and definitely uncomfortable. -- Kjkolb 02:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per Cheapestcostavoider.--Andrew c 02:26, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Calsicol 02:37, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge & Redirect per Rory/Kjkolb. It is already mentioned on List of sex positions. -Dawson 02:51, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per Cheapestcostavoider.--Rpresser 04:05, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge & Redirect per above. Failing that, Keep. VegaDark 04:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per Cheapestcostavoider. SorryGuy 05:11, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge & Redirect per above. --Quiddity 05:24, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - it's a stupid concept but that doesn't disqualify it from staying. - Richardcavell 09:55, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per folks above. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEMES?) 13:26, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep This sexual position may be rare or even mythological, but if the term is fairly common (see Google) and if it deserves some discussion, it belongs here, and NOT just as a South Park or band reference. Besides, I went to Misplaced Pages just now to look up DVDA to find out where this term came from and whether or not this act is even physically possible (results of my search: inconclusive, but articles can grow).
172.149.64.186 13:58, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per Cheapestcoastavoider. --Terence Ong 14:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete unencyclopaedic content Maltesedog 14:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge with the band article. 23skidoo 16:53, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per above. dbtfz 18:52, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, merge if someone really wants to, but that doesn't seem necessary to me. Tuf-Kat 22:31, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per Cheapestcostavoider. It may make me want to scream in pain to even think about this position, but it's worth keeping around. As for those claiming "nonencyclopedic content," I really don't think that's a good reason to delete. Delete for notability, verifiability, copyvio, or patent nonsense, but not because you don't like that it's included in the encyclopedia. There's plenty of material in Misplaced Pages that wouldn't belong in a traditional encyclopedia, because Misplaced Pages is not paper.Captainktainer 22:49, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete or merge as weird nonsense type stuff... M1ss1ontomars2k4 00:31, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: I don't know what you mean by "weird nonsense type stuff." It's obviously not an orthodox sex position, but it's pretty well known and featured in pop culture as well as countless pornographies. -Cheapestcostavoider 01:48, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- What on earth are you talking about? This sex act is not even physically possible, and I made that clear in my nomination. Double vaginal is possible. Double anal is possible. Double vaginal and double anal at the same time is impossible. It's nothing but a joke. The movies are named DVDA because they feature double vaginal and double anal, but not at the same time. Your comments in this discussion indicate that you clearly don't understand that the structure of the human body prevents anyone from actually doing this. Countless pornographies (sic)? I found only two. In pop culture? Only in Parker/Stone projects. This is supposed to be a general interest encyclopedia, not a Trey Parker and Matt Stone fansite. Brian G. Crawford 16:04, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: I don't know what you mean by "weird nonsense type stuff." It's obviously not an orthodox sex position, but it's pretty well known and featured in pop culture as well as countless pornographies. -Cheapestcostavoider 01:48, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge & Redirect per above.Chart123 01:12, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect, per nom.--Cúchullain /c 22:54, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, notable. Reference better, though. —Nightstallion (?) 13:32, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, Merge, or Redirect this info doesn't deserve to totally deleted. if you can't find a better page to put it on then leave it be.Geedubber 03:54, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per Cheapestcostavoider. Since it is a pop culture term, albeit perhaps in very narrow usage, and it is a distinct and known term with it's own applicable information, it should have it's own page. Although it is far from being a general interest subject, it nonetheless has information that can be written on it. Not all articles in an encyclopedia are of interest to everybody, nor should they be.-- Rayshaw 13:13, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as unencyclopaedic. Stifle (talk) 14:03, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep Unfortunately. Startup account 20:23, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete While Misplaced Pages should not be censored, it should not become a repository for any smut that takes someone's fancy. - Runcorn 21:42, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to List of sex positions. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:05, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 06:04, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Friz (KeenToons)
Who is Friz? He's the guy behind Pete is a Pogo Stick, nominated above, and also the guy who tried so hard to get his neologism Knunder into Misplaced Pages. You can see the fruits of his Misplaced Pages neologoism insertion here. Although his article suggests similarities between Dave Gorman and Danny Wallace, this just isn't true. His biggest claim to fame is being covered by BBC Local News Lincolnshire, wow. This man is not notable. - Hahnchen 00:10, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete BBC Lincolnshire, eh? Alan Partridge would be proud. Non-notable. Gwernol 00:29, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. As an aside, how the hell did it take so long to protect "knunder" from recreation? Wouldn't it have made sense to protect it after, like, the fourth or fifth recreation? -- Kicking222 00:49, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Calsicol 02:37, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, neologism. --Terence Ong 14:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as NN. Colonel Tom 22:55, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 06:04, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Danny Washington and Educational Egg
Another non notable flash cartoon. "Danny Washington" "Educational Egg" returns 30 hits. There are literally thousands of more popular and notable Flash animations out there, and having just endured one, there are thousands of better ones as well. They really are bad. no, really - Hahnchen 00:21, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom.Cheapestcostavoider 01:59, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as a nn flash cartoon. --Hetar 05:37, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete or merge into keentoons. --Quiddity 09:44, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, nn. --Terence Ong 14:25, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable. --Siva1979 14:49, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was keep. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:06, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
The Pirates! in an Adventure with Whaling
Also nominating The Pirates! in an Adventure with Scientists.
Non notable books, about 2000 Google hits each. Rory096(block) 00:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep That a legitimate UK publisher (Orion Publishing Group) has published multiple books in the series would seem to indicate that it's notable, even if this isn't exactly a best-seller. They're sold in both the US and UK, although the title for this particular book in the US substitutes "Ahab" for "Whaling." In any event, the article could obviously use some cleanup.Cheapestcostavoider 01:49, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per Cheapestcostavoider ⇒ SWATJester Aim Fire! 09:03, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Strong keep, actually notable books. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEMES?) 13:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per Cheapeestcostavoider. --Terence Ong 14:30, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep notable books. --Siva1979 14:50, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep Notable. Startup account 20:25, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. Resistance is futile! Mailer Diablo 06:09, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Jonathan Bui
Asserts insufficient notability, and appears to be likely a vanity page. Delete. --Nlu (talk) 23:45, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
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- Agreed. Delete Kittybrewster 23:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. He's a notable scientist. 68.71.27.1 16:04, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
- In what way? If he's notable, the notability should be shown. --Nlu (talk) 16:47, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. I was looking for my son's doctor and when I found him here it was very helpful. He's a gifted doctor - keep. 71.134.6.105 00:45, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- Being a "gifted doctor," even if true, is insufficient for Misplaced Pages's general consensus on notability. Please explain why he should be considered sufficiently notable for an encyclopedia. --Nlu (talk) 00:49, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep I created this page after hearing him talk about his research on stroke MRI because it was an important topic and he was impressive. 134.174.120.66 03:48, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- And? Again, "being impressive" is not a notability criterion. He can be the most intelligent person in the world; until he does something that makes him notable, that still wouldn't warrant an article. --Nlu (talk) 04:15, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
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- Delete. A search for "Jonathan Bui" gets 125 Google hits none of which appear to indicate notability as a doctor see .Capitalistroadster 01:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Learn to use the right google search. Google Scholar indicates that he is a co-author or cited in about 71 papers. Peter Mansfield, who won a nobel prize for MRI, gets about 135. KWH 04:45, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete The article does little to assert notability, and Google definitely doesn't help his cause. -- Kicking222 01:50, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete: doesn't meet WP:BIO. --Hetar 01:55, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as above.--Andrew c 02:29, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Calsicol 02:39, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. -Dawson 02:55, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. Google Scholar indicates he is cited in 71 papers. I would urge that some of the other Keep votes who are familiar with his work might expand on the article to further demonstrate his notability. KWH 04:45, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Many of these citations to "JD Bui" are not to this person. --Nlu (talk) 04:56, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Specifically, "Jonathan D. Bui" leads to nine papers. I am looking over them right now to see if they're the same person. --Nlu (talk) 04:58, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Eight of them appears to have his name on them. I was unable to verify one other since the link leads to the wrong page. --Nlu (talk) 05:02, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- And many of the ones that the Google Scholar search comes up with the search string "JD Bui" don't seem to contain that name at all; it's not just that it's the wrong J.D. Bui, but appear to be complete false positives. --Nlu (talk) 05:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- The way your search is structured, there are way too many false positives. One of them that I was finally able to track down, , for example, had an co-author named "JD" and an co-author named "Bui." Our hero here is definitely not involved in 71 papers. --Nlu (talk) 05:19, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment I'm glad that my note caused you to do some actual research on the notability, but I would assert that all you've managed to confirm here is that according to limited online sources, the individual has contributed to at least 9 papers. (actually, according to this link in the article, 14 papers.) I do note the fact that this is the only article edited by the originator of this article. We're talking about a clinical fellow at Harvard who's published, I'd rather hear someone with expertise in the field say if he's made lasting contributions (as some of the above Keep votes seem to say). Why are you so eager to delete? KWH 05:46, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- The way that the keep IP comments were going, one can easily draw the conclusion that this was a vanity page as well. If I were "so eager to delete" the page, I would have speedy deleted it as non-notable. As it stands, I'm looking for debate, not for unsupported and unverified claims of "but he's a great doctor!" or "he's a great scholar!" If there's verifiable information that he's notable, fine, but these comments are not verifications of his notability. --Nlu (talk) 05:57, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment - I want to give the best good faith to the article creator and other keep votes who claim to be familiar with his work, and they do need to be clearer on asserting notability... but it does seem to be a slightly different case from the average "nn-band". KWH 01:23, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- The way that the keep IP comments were going, one can easily draw the conclusion that this was a vanity page as well. If I were "so eager to delete" the page, I would have speedy deleted it as non-notable. As it stands, I'm looking for debate, not for unsupported and unverified claims of "but he's a great doctor!" or "he's a great scholar!" If there's verifiable information that he's notable, fine, but these comments are not verifications of his notability. --Nlu (talk) 05:57, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment I'm glad that my note caused you to do some actual research on the notability, but I would assert that all you've managed to confirm here is that according to limited online sources, the individual has contributed to at least 9 papers. (actually, according to this link in the article, 14 papers.) I do note the fact that this is the only article edited by the originator of this article. We're talking about a clinical fellow at Harvard who's published, I'd rather hear someone with expertise in the field say if he's made lasting contributions (as some of the above Keep votes seem to say). Why are you so eager to delete? KWH 05:46, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- The way your search is structured, there are way too many false positives. One of them that I was finally able to track down, , for example, had an co-author named "JD" and an co-author named "Bui." Our hero here is definitely not involved in 71 papers. --Nlu (talk) 05:19, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Specifically, "Jonathan D. Bui" leads to nine papers. I am looking over them right now to see if they're the same person. --Nlu (talk) 04:58, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per Nlu's research. ⇒ SWATJester Aim Fire! 09:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per above. — Apr. 22, '06 <freakofnurxture|talk>
- Delete ccwaters 12:36, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep in agreement with KWH. Talk:Jonathan Bui --User:ElectricEye (talk) 14:22, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Seriously, publications are to academics what speeches are to politicians. If he has written 14 articles, thats a sign of low notability. On this count, you could include most PhDs in the world. The Minister of War 14:28, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, nn-bio. --Terence Ong 14:47, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, nn bio. Deizio 15:33, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete Per nom, non notable biography Pegasus1138 ---- 19:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete for being not notable. If he is, someone should provide some evidence. Tuf-Kat 22:33, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete no sign of notability --Ajdz 01:54, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete not notable enough. The article says "He exists. He is a doctor and a scientist." Those voting keep also note "He does good stuff." How is this person any more notable than the thousands of people you could say the same for? The article sure doesn't make a case for notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shenme (talk • contribs)
- Delete per nom, not notable enough — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dspserpico (talk • contribs)
- Delete Not notable and to a lesser degree, a vanity page.--Cini 09:34, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete (almost) no sign of notability in the article, and agree that 9 (or even 71) papers would not be notable. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 20:24, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete Currently NN. Startup account 20:26, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was keep. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:07, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Freewebs
Non-notable free web host, fails WP:WEB. Delete Ardenn 00:47, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - I have been wanting to edit this article for a while since I am a user of Freewebs. I do realize that it reads like an advertisement, but if you go to Freewebs, they actually advertise for themselves on their own website. And of course, stating prices and benefits that Freewebs offers does make it read like an advertisement, but I did name some negative aspects in the article. On top of that, I felt rushed since the article got marked for deletion. Please feel free to make edits. Thanks! --EMC 05:51, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep - As of April 21, 2006, it ranks as the 351st most visited website on the web according to Alexa. It's in the top 500 of all websites on the Internet, if that doesn't pass WP:WEB, what does? --lightdarkness 00:48, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Strong keep, are you kidding? Alexa ranking of 351, 22 Google News hits, and probably one of the most notable free web hosts in existence. How in any way does it fail WP:WEB? --
Rory096(block) 00:49, 22 April 2006 (UTC)- Misplaced Pages isn't a junkyard. Ardenn 00:51, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Note that only one of those gnews hits is actually about the site, rather than the hit coming from a url, but the story is decent. Kotepho 15:48, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, but this article could really do with some fix-ups. Looks a bit like an advertisement for the website. But this isn't "Articles for bias discussion," so that's a whole other discussion. —THIS IS MESSEDOCKER (TALK) 00:52, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep and cleanup Keep per above, needs cleanup - right now it's just a wikified price chart. -Obli (Talk) 00:55, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: I removed the pricing info, since that's not really encyclopedic and is subject to change anyway. I think its a good start to cleaning up the article --Hetar 01:02, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - Quite a popular webhost. This is going to be speedy keeped right? - Hahnchen
- Keep and cleanup Freewebs is certainly notable and worthy of a Wikipage, but what exists currently isn't so hot. First off, it needs more info besides membership options and how to start a page. And second, I don't think the Alexa rank should be in the heading (or, perhaps, anywhere in the article). Aside from the fact that Alexa rankings change everyday (and the page won't be updated every day), an Alexa rank alone does not make a site notable no matter how high the ranking may be. -- Kicking222 01:53, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep and cleanup as above. It is notable and meets WP:WEB, but having said that it could use some work. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:38, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy keep Meets pretty much any notability criteria you'd care to throw at it. A great many non-notable sites are hosted there, and way too many end up with articles here, but that in no way diminishes the significance of Freewebs itself. –Abe Dashiell 05:41, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Strong keep per all above. ⇒ SWATJester Aim Fire! 09:05, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Keep, Freewebs is a notable web host worldwide and meets all of WP:WEB criteria. We are talking about the Webhost having an article not about those non-notable websites. Alexa ranks do not mean anything all the time after all. --Terence Ong 14:50, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy keep per most above. TH 21:30, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Weak keep somewhat nn, but at the same time it's 351 on alexa, so... M1ss1ontomars2k4 00:30, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, per all above keeps. Also cleanup somewhat. Chris Chan.talk.contribs 12:10, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was Speedy Esteffect 02:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
JIMMY
- This is just pure nonsense. I don't see any good way to make this into a real article. Strong Delete. Georgia guy 01:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as neologism. "it is the hope of the founding partners that JIM becomes a thorough part of the American lexicon and it is heard in multi-media use" means "We made this up one day, it's completely unsourced, and we want to use Misplaced Pages to promote it." --Elkman - 01:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as above. Metamagician3000 01:18, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- It's not nonsense, it's just a silly joke. Delete per User:Elkman. — Hillel 01:22, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- "A Misplaced Pages entry that makes no sense" should be Jimmified. Er, I mean deleted. Zetawoof 01:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- After reading this, I feel that I've been jimmied(sp). Nah, I am sticking with duped. Delete junyor 01:46, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete why was this even up for deletion? I can't believe it wasn't just immediately deleted outright without a vote. Honestly, who would vote to keep this page? Even Jimmy doesn't want it to survive that much. -- Kicking222 01:55, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Hi Kicking. Because (although it seems that User:Hahnchen below disagrees with me on that point) this article does not clearly match any speedy deletion criteria. According to guidelines, hoaxes and implausible theories (and ridiculous claims like the ones in this article) are not considered candidates for speedy deletion and have to follow the afd route. — Hillel 02:21, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy - Nonsense, rubbish, hoax. - Hahnchen 02:09, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was Delete. --Fang Aili 15:59, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Paul Zaia
Non notable priest. 149 Ghits, and his only claim to fame is supporting an American Idol contestant. Rory096(block) 01:15, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable, WP:BIO.--Andrew c 02:30, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable -Jmh123 02:55, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete if it doesn't get expanded soon. - Richardcavell 12:20, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, nn-bio. --Terence Ong 14:51, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, nothing of note here Deizio 15:36, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge into Guy M1ss1ontomars2k4 00:29, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge into Guy Sebastian M1ss1ontomars2k4 00:30, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge with Guy Sebastian. Startup account 20:35, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was nomination withdrawn. Mailer Diablo 06:10, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
List of National Basketball League (Australia) venues
Prod tag removed with the explanation: "possible candidate for Australian Collaboration of the Fortnight". I don't believe that supercedes the official policy regarding lists at WP:NOT. This needs a WP:HEY standard of improvement, right now it's listcruft. User:Kappa has been extremely busy removing prods this evening... Deizio 01:19, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Withdraw, list has now been significantly improved, hats off to Jcuk for making it happen. Deizio 21:49, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, although it has room for improvement, this list already assists with the organisation of articles, and aids the creation of new ones. Also it seems pretty rude to slap a prod tag on an article when it's a candidate for collaboration. Kappa 01:32, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete The amount of listcruft that keeps appearing is discouraging. Hirudo 01:49, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete and use a template instead, which is normal for this sort of thing. Calsicol 02:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. The fact that it is a candidate for collaboration does not mean it has to be kept, although I note that it has two supporters only and two others have suggested that it would not be good choice. Use a template as suggested above or put the list in a broader article. --Bduke 05:46, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, add location & team information (which cannot be sensibly included in a template). AfD is not cleanup and this does not violate any aspect of WP:NOT that I can see. However, as a believer in list-category synergy, I would prefer that this article be rebuilt into a simple List of basketball venues in Australia, a la Category:Basketball venues in Australia. -- Visviva 06:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- WP:NOT for "Mere collections of internal links", except for structured lists to assist with the organisation of articles (offical policy), with structured lists defined as "lists organized chronologically, grouped by theme, or annotated lists". Nobody is suggesting that a list of these venues should not be maintained somewhere on WP, but it's not suitable for a stand-alone list with no context or information, which is the job of a category or template. Deizio 15:31, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - it could grow into a decent article, or eventually be merged somewhere. At the moment it should be a category or a template. But don't give up on it yet. - Richardcavell 12:21, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete or maybe merge into the league page. Its informative, but there are better ways to go about it... (categories, templates, etc) ccwaters 12:42, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Lists are not redundant with categories or templates; they can hold more information than either -- also, of course, lists can (and should) contain links to articles that have not yet been created, which categories cannot. -- Visviva 12:47, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - Notable but needs work. -- Synapse 14:53, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, listcruft. --Terence Ong 14:57, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete and transfer to a template per Calsicol. BoojiBoy 17:29, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Keep per Visviva, Misplaced Pages itself supports lists
(Some lists are useful for Misplaced Pages development purposes. The lists of related topics give an indication of the state of the 'pedia, the articles that have been written, and the articles that have yet to be written. Like categories, lists can be used for keeping track of changes in the listed pages, using the Related Changes feature. Unlike a category, a list also allows detection of deletion of pages from it, and, more generally, a history of its contents is available.) , so why do individual editors think they have to remove an article just because it IS a list?? Also there is a precedent for this sort of thing at List of Premier League stadiums, for example. Jcuk 20:58, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- List of Premier League stadiums contains information about the home team, city, capacity and date built as well as a trivia section. It's something for this list to aspire to, sure, but by no means can that be considered to set a precedent for a list such as this simply because they are both about sports stadiums. I don't feel that we should remove lists, I feel we should adhere to the offical policy which dictates what Misplaced Pages is not. Deizio 00:58, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- This list now contains much the same information as List of Premier League Stadiums Jcuk 19:22, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep as a list considered useful by a large category of users. I don't see any reason to delete useful lists of information. Capitalistroadster 00:38, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Well done to User Kappa for removing the prod tag. This should never have been tagged as prod. Capitalistroadster 00:41, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. Seems like useful information. Perhaps more info would make it better. Chart123 01:15, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- Capitalistroadster 00:41, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep Notable and the potential to be very informative.--Cini 09:36, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep a list of notable places which are interrelated.ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 00:49, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep complete lists of items for which there are or should be articles. There is no way for a reader to determine whether a category is complete. Also as noted above, a list can contain more information. --Scott Davis 06:13, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:LC. Stifle (talk) 14:00, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ - (waarom? jus'b'coz!) 01:22, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was merge to Hispanic Business Inc.. MarkGallagher performed the merging. SushiGeek 07:06, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
HireDiversity
intially proposed deletion, anon user removed the {{prod}} tag. Article is a advertisement for website. J\/\/estbrook Talk VSCA 01:46, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge content with Hispanic Business Inc., where it's already mentioned.Cheapestcostavoider 01:53, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge per above. Definitely does not deserve its own article. -- Kicking222 01:57, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - it's an advertisement and/or yellow pages entry, essentially. - Richardcavell 12:22, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- KEEP -- notable national website / employment service. Interestingstuffadder 17:38, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: It would help if you could provide some reliable sources that mention the site. The only things I can find are press releases from the parent company. The site itself has an Alexa rank of 120,000, so I don't think it's notable per WP:WEB. Cheapestcostavoider 23:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge per above. I generally favor keeping articles, but this is basically an advertisement and does not seem to be notable per WP:WEB. I've searched for anything to justify keeping it as an article, and have found nothing.--Wikiwriter706 23:33, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - advertisement --Ajdz 04:19, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- Transwiki to Yellowikis. Stifle (talk) 13:59, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete As listed. Startup account 20:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete all articles. Category and template is separately nominated. Mailer Diablo 06:14, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Online Soccer Project Alpha
This is a multiple nomination and indeed 2nd nomination for the principle article, the original nomination resulted in delete and can be seen here There are many articles and they are listed below:
- Category:Online Soccer Project Alpha and everything within it, which include:
- The group behind it all, TN Fantasy Sports Group
- And their Template:OSPALeague
Online Soccer Project Alpha is a fantasy football league, hosted on Freewebs and started by TN Fantasy Sports Group. Now, this is not a notable fantasy football league in the slightest, and even if it were, the individual teams and leagues would not merit individual articles. And if the company behind it, the TN Fantasy Sports Group, were indeed a company and not just a bunch of high schoolers, then they would have bought their own domain and managed to get more than 6 Google hits, all of them Misplaced Pages. Goodbye. - Hahnchen 01:52, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete the lot ...and their soccer page is 404, their helmet-rugby page has 00000085 hits. --Eivind 10:28, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy delete parent article under CSD G4, recreation of deleted material. Delete sub-articles as nn webstuff. Deizio 15:42, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete all as per above. --TM 22:43, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete all Fails to be notable in any shape or form and has an extremely limited number of hits.--Cini 09:41, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete all as non-notable per nom. Qwghlm 20:53, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete all as a big bad walled garden. Stifle (talk) 13:46, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was speedy delete both as non-notable biographies, verging on attack pages. Joyous | Talk 02:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Emza and PleaseDeleteThis
As per WP:NN and as unencyclopedic and nonsense... It is clearly a derogatory reference to *somebody* and deserves no place in Misplaced Pages - Delete --Valermos 01:56, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy delete: as nonsensical vandalism. --Hetar 01:59, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete: personal and irrelevant. Cyrian 02:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep: Reference does not appear derogatory and information may be relevant to some Lara 02:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment - The above comment was written by Kelser and intentionally mis-signed as Lara. Kelser is the creator of the page in question --Valermos 02:14, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- apology - thats my name, didn't actually intend to mislead. User:Kelser May I just also say that, I understand if it is deleted (on grounds of being personal and irrelecant), but that it is not at all derogatory and is infact a tribute.
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 06:19, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Lee Dennison
British born actor. I am nominating this on principle as vanity/self-advertisement since the only contributor so far has been user:Leedennison. Is he notable? -- RHaworth 02:23, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete I have been concerned about the verifiability of the subject from the article's creation, and I continue to be concerned. Notably, a Lee Dennison search at IMDB returns no relevant results, and the full credits for The Transporter, on which, according to the article, Dennison worked, don't list him. However, if the (perhaps tendentious) bio provided by a company with which he works is to be believed, then he has indeed been involved in the production of sundry notable films. Assuming arguendo that the bio as provided is entirely accurate, I am nevertheless convinced that Dennison is notable neither as an actor nor as a casting director. Joe 02:33, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment The creator/subject has e-mailed me, taking umbrage at my questioning the veracity of the bio. I think I ought to note that my concerns were as much about verifiability as about truth. In any case, though, as I noted above and as others also seem to believe, even if the bio is wholly accurate (which is eminently possible), the subject is non-notable. Joe 21:29, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - not notable enough; it appears likely that the article was created by the person himself, and that's no good. - Richardcavell 09:58, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete Wether the person himself created the article or not is immaterial-- Non-notable and fails to meet WP:BIO and WP:V. Coren 16:00, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Commnets have been emailed to both users and they are not withstanding. One does not need to be verified nor registered at IMDB to be an actor/crew member nor do the majority of films have CD listed in their crew as the CD role is required before production takes place. This is not a self advertisement (no companies details/web site information has been given) and unlike other people including one user here no vanity picture has been posted. Tendentious is the users own opinion and therefore not legally binding nor fact and the user even comments that "if" the details are fact he is still not convinced - again this is just a matter of opinion and not fact. It should be stated that other actors have placed their own bio here and have passed therefore RH and RC comments are also not valid. If I am wrong please let me know the correct page where it says actors/artistes etc cannot create their own page. I would also request they re-read the following before continuing with their comments. Thanks.
AfD etiquette
- Please be familiar with the policies of not biting the newcomers, Wikiquette, no personal attacks, civility, and assume good faith before making a recommendation as to whether the article should be deleted or not, or making a comment. (— Preceding unsigned comment added by Leedennison (talk • contribs) )
- Delete, unverified, non-notable autobiography. Comment to anon above - Hi, AfD etiquette does not and will never deny editors the right to nominate and vote for non-notable material to be deleted. Please check out WP:BIO, WP:V and WP:AUTO, and take some time to get a better feel of the house style and groove here at WP. It;s a great place and a fab resource, but there are rules... having one's autobiography deleted is a rite of passage for many, many editors - some go on to become dedicated Wikipedians, others never really get a handle on the project. I'm seriously glad I'm in the former group. Deizio 15:50, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, unverifiable, nn-bio and probaly hoax. --Terence Ong 16:11, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete vanity, self M1ss1ontomars2k4 00:28, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Vanity? Hoax? It would suggest a little reasearch is done befoire casting doubts. The etiquette still states do not "bite" and "assume good faith" which the majority of you have not. Some of you who have commented have displayed a touch of vanity on your own pages and some are rather self indulgent to say the least. (— Preceding unsigned comment added by Leedennison (talk • contribs) )
- Hi Lee. Do you mean information on editors "userpages"? That's a place to be creative as you like, and you are very welcome to display biographical information on your own user page, which appears when you click on your user name at the top of the screen or in your signature, which can be appended to comments on talk pages simply by typing ~~~~ before you save the page. Information stored in the main encyclopedia (often referred to as "articlespace" or "mainspace") such as the article nominated for deletion here must stand up to high levels of scrutiny per the policies and guidelines pointed out above ("WP:xx"). Many, many pages with the problems identified with this article appear on the deletion board every day, and as you can imagine many original authors contest the deletion. However, not displaying a solid grasp of[REDACTED] standards and practices when defending such an article is not a way to endear yourself to other editors. Again, I encourage you to stick around and get a better feel for the place. Best regards, Deizio 16:58, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per Terence Ong. Vanity and not notable. --Cini 09:58, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as simply NN. --AbsolutDan 17:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as failing WP:BIO and WP:V. This reminds me of the Rikkie Lee Travolta article.--Cúchullain /c 23:05, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete - Liberatore(T) 17:29, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Taunton Antique Center
Delete Prod failed. One reference has been added but I believe it still fails WP:CORP Joelito 02:33, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, appears to be one of the largest antique shops in all New England, certainly a significant part of the antiques trade in Taunton, with which it could also be merged. Kappa 02:53, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Weak delete A merge would clutter up the already large Taunton article. If someone can find a non-advertisement source for the New England claim I'd support keep, otherwise delete. Hirudo 04:06, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - let it have time to expand. - Richardcavell 10:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- The article was created in September 2005. Joelito 12:55, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep --Terence Ong 15:00, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, nn antiques shop. Are editors seriously claiming that notability is conferred by a claim from "villageprofile.com" that this is a particularly large antiques store? I would also be looking for something from WP:CORP, nada. Deizio 16:00, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete or if it really does have local significance, then merge with Taunton. Tyrenius 01:31, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per Deiz. Eusebeus 15:43, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete Unless it is merged somehow, I vote delete. Not notable enough and lack of references.--Cini 15:59, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per Diez unless someone can prove this is a very prominent antique store.--Cúchullain /c 23:12, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete > Merge NN unless with other article. Startup account 20:38, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was keep. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:27, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Degree completion
No sources, no references, appears to be original material, and the title doesn't seem to fit the description. Arbusto 02:35, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Delete per nom. Arbusto 02:35, 22 April 2006 (UTC)Keep per new sources and merge. Arbusto 05:26, 22 April 2006 (UTC)- Delete per nom. -Jmh123 03:00, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. This is a legitimate topic and the article appears to be a stub that does in fact describe the topic. See, for example, which is a report to the board of the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools on "Adult Degree Completion Programs". --Metropolitan90 04:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep Seems like this program exists. Borisblue 04:45, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep as stub on legitimate topic per above (surely everyone's heard of degree completion programs; they're quite common and frequently advertised), but move to Degree completion program, as the article is about such programs, not the actual act or process of completing a degree. dbtfz 04:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- I'm going to be bold and just make the move I suggested. It can't hurt. dbtfz 04:56, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep per recent development at the page. --Quiddity 09:49, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep after rewrite and citing of sources. --Terence Ong 15:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep Needs a lot of work, references etc but is a valid subject of importance.--Cini 16:00, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete again. SushiGeek 07:08, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Jesse Cowell
Unremarkable person, except for his work on a single film. And shouldn't someone who was "made famous over the internet" get a little bit more than 379 google hits?. Article was previously deleted for simlar reasons. The only reference is to his official site, which of course won't cut it as a sole source. Drat (Talk) 02:48, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete author of article appears to have only one interest at Misplaced Pages--to promote this individual and his film. -Jmh123 02:59, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Redirect to Shades of Gray (film). The film is notable, and any verifiable notability that Cowell has most likely comes from the film. — TKD::Talk 05:48, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete on-sight, per CSD G4 recreation of deleted material. Deizio 16:09, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. TH 21:46, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Redirect per TKD M1ss1ontomars2k4 00:28, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep I know who he is. Famous enough for me. --SeizureDog 21:17, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep There are much more than 379 Google hits for him, search for Jeskid, you get about 31,100 hits --GrahamGRA 19:28, 25 April 2006 (GMT)
- Delete or redirect to the movie, which seems notable.--Cúchullain /c 23:23, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep I'm working my way through the article and trying to edit it to be more encyclopedic in nature and also show that Jesse has a bigger following in his own right than was initially laid out in the entry - i.e. his fan site that has only been going since March this year has had 1.4million page views in the past month (I've included links to references) - and that Shades of Gray is just a part of his works (all be it a major one), and not just his sole achievement. Please bear with me, today is my first attempt at editing a wiki :) 81.79.54.144 07:10, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep I am the creator and author of the Jeskid Fan Club website. Jesse brings more than the sum of his movies and online TV, obviously enough to warrant the creation and participation of a full scale fan community. I personally put hundreds of hours into the coding of the website alone, which in itself speaks to who and what Jesse stands for. There unfortunately are some somewhat disgruntled and jealous would-be writers, actors and film makers who have had little success and therefore feel the need to tear down something which is more than they could have hoped for - not to mention, we have come across some of these individuals who have made it their purpose in life to bring an end to Jesse's growing following - "just because". Since going live with the website in march, it has grown at a steady pace of 100+ members per week, and participation includes over 75% of all registered members on a daily basis - and half of that 75% participates every few hours. The fan site alone is anticipating a 2 million page view month, which includes nearly 450,000 site hits. This is, as I mentioned, only about a months time of being live. The most recent addition to JeskidTV, "SPAM" episode, sparked the same flurry of "water cooler" conversation that some better known network programming would. The idea that Jesse Coweel or his best known film Shades of Gray should be deleted in ridiculous, and I would encourage the individuals who requested such action be restricted and/or ignored for future deletion "requests". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.64.255.203 (talk • contribs) .
- Comment. I am not a "jealous would-be writer", nor have I made it my purpose in life to make Jesse fail. I'm just another editor. Like Jmh123 said, it seems GrahamGRA registered here with the sole intent of promoting Jesse. I also took into account (but forgot to mention in the nomination) the fact that Cowell previously created an article on himself. Do you have an independant source for those pageviews? I'm not trying to say that you are lying, far from it. What I mean is, I could just write something on my own site and make a claim, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, I was just checking the fansite, and noticed this encouraging people to "GO forth to Wikkipedia and FUCK THEM UP!" (first post is at the bottom). Though one poster is thankfully encouraging reason.--Drat (Talk) 02:25, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment You yourself clearly are showing prejudice, you do not check your facts before posting suggesting that Jeskid has few Google hits. When infact he has over 30 thousand. You appear to take every attempt to sabotage this article dispite the obvious fact that Jeskid has a large respectable fanbase. Pure Pwnage has a simmilar fanbase to Jeskid, but it's article is untouched. I feel you do not show considderation as to when credit is due, since Shades of Gray is only a small fraction on work that has been produced by Jesse. As far as Jesse Cowell and[REDACTED] themself go, he uploaded one image, there is no big deal in that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GrahamGRA (talk • contribs) .
- Comment. Please remain civil. The threshhold for inclusion in Misplaced Pages is verifiability, not truth. — TKD::Talk 01:21, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment You yourself clearly are showing prejudice, you do not check your facts before posting suggesting that Jeskid has few Google hits. When infact he has over 30 thousand. You appear to take every attempt to sabotage this article dispite the obvious fact that Jeskid has a large respectable fanbase. Pure Pwnage has a simmilar fanbase to Jeskid, but it's article is untouched. I feel you do not show considderation as to when credit is due, since Shades of Gray is only a small fraction on work that has been produced by Jesse. As far as Jesse Cowell and[REDACTED] themself go, he uploaded one image, there is no big deal in that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GrahamGRA (talk • contribs) .
- Comment. People here are not recommending deletion because they have some vendetta against Jesse; they are doing so because they feel that the article does not or cannot meet Misplaced Pages's standards for verifiability. — TKD::Talk 01:21, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment. I am not a "jealous would-be writer", nor have I made it my purpose in life to make Jesse fail. I'm just another editor. Like Jmh123 said, it seems GrahamGRA registered here with the sole intent of promoting Jesse. I also took into account (but forgot to mention in the nomination) the fact that Cowell previously created an article on himself. Do you have an independant source for those pageviews? I'm not trying to say that you are lying, far from it. What I mean is, I could just write something on my own site and make a claim, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, I was just checking the fansite, and noticed this encouraging people to "GO forth to Wikkipedia and FUCK THEM UP!" (first post is at the bottom). Though one poster is thankfully encouraging reason.--Drat (Talk) 02:25, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep Not all of Jeskid's fame comes from his Shades of Gray work. JeskidTV is watched largely by his fan base as well, and his Fan Club website and chat are extremely popular. Sticking that all under SoG would be wrong, because they're not all related. He should have his own individual entry, where you can reach all of his works. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.81.79.187 (talk • contribs) .
- Keep The only suggestion is to edit the article to make it more encyclopedic. A seperate article should be made for Jeskid TV work since his work on Shades of Gray (film) has one. There's about 15 hours of Jeskid TV content on http://www.jeskidtv.com. Q&A articles reviews and director bios found within google searches when searching Jesse Cowell and Jeskid. The Google results tally over 30,000+. The Fansite has many numerous active accounts. Seems notable enough. --Microbefox 22:17, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment. The difference between Shades of Gray and Jeskid TV is that the former has been reviewed by independent organizations/critics and has won some well-known awards. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but Jeskid TV has not. Most of the third-party reliable (non-forum, non-blog) hits are about Jesse's role in Shades of Gray, right? The fact that Jesse has a fan club is great and all, but such doesn't contribute much to verifiable encyclopedic content because of the inherent bias involved. A Google search for +Jeskid -forum -wikipedia yields 517 results, which seems to indicate that most of Jesse's popularity stems from forum communities, which are not citeable as reliable sources. If someone can provide some reliable third-party sources for Jesse's popularity/notability outside of Shades of Gray, I'd happily reconsider. — TKD::Talk 01:21, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was Delete. --Fang Aili 16:01, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Dark Eden (band)
Band is non-notable, does not meet music notability requirements, and page reads like bad fiction. Google reports only self-submitted band info. Probably vanity as well given there is exactly one (human) editor to the page. Coren 03:02, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Bucketsofg 03:25, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- delete as per nom Jporcaro 03:33, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete for official reference, meets no requirements of what makes a band. Teke 04:02, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- DeleteFails WP:MUSIC. If they can't make it in the real world, they can't make it here doktorb | words 08:07, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, I see reports of a national tour in the United States in there, that's enough for WP:MUSIC. It's been around long enough that someone in the New York City scene can pick it out of a lineup; send the article in that direction for cleanup. In any case Clupula needs to edit other articles per WP:VANITY. --AlexWCovington (talk) 08:51, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment. From what I can, or rather can't, gather, the group is not significant on the New York scene aside from their own claims. Since members "leave for college" and the group has had ever a dozen members, I really don't think that this is any sort of serious band. Additionally, I don't think the national touring they've done is what MUSIC had in mind; even I could book a dozen shows around the country, rent a van, and have a national tour. Lastly, the stage name Kleibold Harris is just wrong. Teke 18:15, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- One last nail in the coffin (I think the band would like that phrase), The message board has 43 members. Teke 18:21, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, fails WP:MUSIC. --Terence Ong 15:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as per nom. --TM 22:45, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was redirect to Hellwars. - Liberatore(T) 17:42, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
- And, since Hellwars was WP:PRODded for more than 5 days, delete it, and speedy delete Pkbr labs under WP:CSD R1. I'm evil. - Liberatore(T) 17:45, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Pkbr labs
Found while working on dead-end pages. Company is the creator of the online MMPORG Hellwars. I'm not a gamer so I have no opinion on the game but is the company notable by itself if Hellwars is its only game. The article content basically describes the game, so if kept it wil have to be stubbed and started over from scratch. No opinion at this time. No one of consequence 03:11, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete creator of semi-popular game, just not notable, and I doubt their game is either. --Eivind 10:41, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Redirect to Hellwars and tag {{R with possibilities}}. Stifle (talk) 13:38, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Simple redirect to Hellwars. Colonel Tom 22:59, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 06:20, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Decomplexity
This orphan page is undisguised marketing copy serving as advertisement. Coren 03:20, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Not a complex decision, that's for sure. Delete doktorb | words 08:09, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Marketing. Tyrenius 01:23, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as advert. Completely incomprehensible. Stifle (talk) 13:35, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as marketing. On a side note, Ow. My brain hurts after reading that. Colonel Tom 23:01, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was Sent to WP:CP. Stifle (talk) 13:34, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Device locking
Device Locking is a patented process of recognizing a devices non user configurable components for the purposes of generating a license to run software or access a system. This is not advertising, but actual fact. Pure advertising copy. Coren 03:25, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete Per nom and probably copyvio anyway.Cheapestcostavoider 03:28, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete Copyright violation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crakorjack (talk • contribs) 03:39, 21 April 2006
- Speedy Borisblue 04:06, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy --Quiddity 09:51, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy delete - advertising. - Richardcavell 10:19, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete A8 --Terence Ong 15:21, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Copyvio per nom. No speedy since it's been here since October. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:48, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Copyvio. Tyrenius 01:36, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Copyvio claimed to be fixed, but it's still advertisement for a NN corp. Coren 04:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 06:20, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Where da moviez at
Should be reviewed for deletion, the previous deletion in 2005 was in my opinion uinfair. I, the author, am posting this page as AfD to avoid it being speedy deleted because it is a repost of an already deleted article. However i believe the original article was unfairly deleted and this should be given a second chance. It is valid information which is not false and should be given a second review perhaps.Crakorjack 03:31, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy delete Even if the page wasn't drivel, it would be WP:NOR. Original deletion was justified. Coren 03:46, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete This quote from the page itself says it all: Because of the nature of WDMA almost all of the soruces stating WDMA's existance cannot be verified. Okay then. Eron 03:48, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Just because the sources cannot be verified does not mean that people should not be able to read the arguements on both sides. Just because some sources are not verified does not mean that the verified facts about the site should not be showcased in one place. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crakorjack (talk • contribs) .
- Delete. Yes it does. Actually, that's exactly what it means. Content must be verifiable. Keppa 03:59, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Just because the sources cannot be verified does not mean that people should not be able to read the arguements on both sides. Just because some sources are not verified does not mean that the verified facts about the site should not be showcased in one place. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crakorjack (talk • contribs) .
- Speedy delete: The article references its own deletion on Misplaced Pages, it has been deleted before, and to quote the article, its "existance cannot be verified." Misplaced Pages is not the place for this. --Hetar 04:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - As per comments above, lack of verifiability. If it's so secret, then why is it being promoted here? --Valermos 08:26, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete Fairly clear from te article itself that there is no place for it here doktorb | words 09:07, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - the article is rubbish. - Richardcavell 09:57, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- I vote to delete if a mention of it is made in the "somethingawful" article or other relevant topics. This is a relevant article, but the whole point of the page, the whole reason this website is well known, is for its secrecy. Keep it as a rumor article, a joke article, a footnote in another article, a fragemnt, a stub, anything, but it needs to be mentioned somewhere, because it is notable and because it is unresolved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.105.140.52 (talk • contribs) 14:10, 22 April 2006
- Speedy delete as above. A section on its original deletion? The article claiming that this topic is unverifiable? And the fact that this should have {{db-repost}} on it (the nominator would likely remove it, unfortunately)? I understand the nominator wants a "fair vote" (in quotes because AfD is not a vote -- the term "clear consensus" fits better), but it's still a G4 speedy candidate. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 14:49, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Oh, and after taking a close read of the article, this may even be a hoax. --WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 14:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)- OK, I have officially decided this is real, but my other reasons for deletion still apply. --WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:24, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment:
I agree this should in theory be speedy deleted for repost, but because of the conditions of the original deletion, i believe it could be much more beneficial to keep this article as a hoax and have a dispute about whether it is true, it would benefit the article to see what people can dig up on the truthfulness of the site, because that is the issue truely in question. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crakorjack (talk • contribs) .- This article has been deemed "not a hoax", but the verifiability is still in question. --Crakorjack 16:36, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - this is real. It was a spinoff of a Something Awful forum, although no illegal files were shared there. The admins deleted the forum for various reasons at the beginning of 2005, leading to the setup of this site. From what I can tell, passwords to it were given out to a select few SA members. However, this is not endorsed whatsoever by the site's admins - members that join the forums to ask for the password are banned. Of course, this is all completely unverifiable (there is a section on this in the SA forums "SAclopedia", but only registered users can view it) and so this article should be deleted. --Doug (talk) 16:02, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment I just realized something... if he wanted to review the deletion, why couldn't this had been on deletion review? WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:47, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy delete I used to be an SA goon, so I know this isn't a hoax, but there's so much wrong here it's hard to pick where to start. I'll just mention that the article claims that the RIAA, a trade union, is a "government administration". Pugs Malone 17:41, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: If you know what's wrong with it why cant it just be edited? --69.105.140.52 20:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete -- article says it may be a rumor, or may be real, or something. Whatever it is, it fails WP:V. They also complain about the previous deletion a lot, but that isn't the reason to delete this page. --Elkman - 19:15, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Question - If the article were to be shortened to simply "the illegid name of the site the BTB forum on something awful was moved to." or something of that type could it be kept? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.105.140.52 (talk • contribs) .
- Probably not, alas. --WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:23, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete -- Violation of WP:V --Llort 20:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, article as it stands is not useful due to WP:V -- if the network really exitst at the scale claimed, it does deserve a mention but please someone, expose it first :) TH 22:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment sounds a bit like nonsense, and it's too hard to verify. It's like some joke about some invisible thing, but i can't remember what the joke was... M1ss1ontomars2k4 00:27, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete wishful thinking. More people have seen "space aliens". Shenme 05:24, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete Way too many doubts in regards to verifiability.--Cini 16:03, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 06:21, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Globalist manifesto
This page gives no historical or social background as to the topic. Instead, it merely reproduces a document, with no information as to the author or the source, and with no assurance that the document is not, in fact, copyrighted by its (unnamed) author. In fact, it may very well be entirely fraudulent. Either way, it is not appropriate for Misplaced Pages. Manifestoes should be posted on private webpages. Charles 03:36, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete Personal opinion and personal documents (whether the author of the article made it or the author copyvio from the real author of the manifesto, either way is deletable) --Crakorjack 03:42, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Perhaps this should be relisted for a speedy delete? --Charles 04:36, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete per nom. --Arnzy (Talk) 12:19, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. NOR. No references. No context. No nothing. Tyrenius 01:39, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete[REDACTED] is not a manifesto host --Ajdz 01:58, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 06:22, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Mankind: Saving Humanity
nn self-published vanity book Amcfreely 03:46, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Probably looks like a speedy too. --Arnzy (Talk) 12:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable. --Siva1979 14:51, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete nn M1ss1ontomars2k4 00:25, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - notability not asserted. Colonel Tom 23:04, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was Deleted by Doc glasgow. --Arnzy (Talk) 12:13, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Flawless (Phife Dawg)
Non-notable song. Tagged for speedy delete; creator wiped the page. Keppa 03:47, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete No page = no entry. No entry = delete.
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The result of the debate was Speedy keep, withdrawn by nominator . Stifle (talk) 13:32, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Anna Ivey
Author is not broadly notable. Not widely published. Unknown outside the small minority of law school applicants who are familiar with her work Interestingstuffadder 03:51, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Weak keep Creator is active in articlespace, I'll assume good faith and trust some expansion. Give it a couple months. Teke 04:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, notable author of mass published work, room for expansion. --AlexWCovington (talk) 04:18, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep per above, she's also been quoted in the Washington Post (as cited in the article), New York Times ("One Good Career Deserves Another," by Lisa Belkin, section 4A on 11/6/05, also quoted on 3/16/05) and Chicago Sun-Times (9/7/2005, p. 68). Plus she was the Dean of Admissions at a major law school.Cheapestcostavoider 04:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment anyone got her card for me? Teke 04:50, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: this may be a keep but is certainly not a speedy keep. As the article stands it points to only very limited publication history. Publishing one book and being quoted a could times is not nec sufficient for notability, at least not conclusively enough to justify a speedy. Let's see how the debate comes out and not rush this process. Interestingstuffadder 05:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- I don't see why not. She's easily notable enough as an author, although you seem to be inventing new, ambiguous criteria that go well beyond the guidelines (Misplaced Pages:Notability (people)). If the NYT, Washington Post and Chicago Sun-Times all think she's notable enough to quote as an admissions expert, and Vault thinks she's enough of an expert to have her own column on their site, I don't see why there's any need to prolong debate.Cheapestcostavoider 14:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: All I can base my reasoning on is what is referenced in the article -- she has put out one book, has been interviewed by a major newspaper once, she maintains a website and she used to serve as an administrator at an American law school. This infi may hint at notability (though I'd like to see more). But no, this information doe not make her such a slam dunk on notability that we should cut off the process of discussing whether she belongs on wikipedia. I just don't see anyting here that makes it clear that she meets speedy keep criteria. It is unclear to me why you are so afraid of letting this discussion run its course if you are so convinced of her notability. Interestingstuffadder 15:30, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- I don't see why not. She's easily notable enough as an author, although you seem to be inventing new, ambiguous criteria that go well beyond the guidelines (Misplaced Pages:Notability (people)). If the NYT, Washington Post and Chicago Sun-Times all think she's notable enough to quote as an admissions expert, and Vault thinks she's enough of an expert to have her own column on their site, I don't see why there's any need to prolong debate.Cheapestcostavoider 14:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep: I created the article. I'm not adamantly attached to it or anything, but I do think she is notable enough to merit an article. Misplaced Pages:Criteria_for_inclusion_of_biographies#People_still_alive states "Published authors, editors, and photographers who have written books with an audience of 5,000 or more or in periodicals with a circulation of 5,000 or more" merit an article. The article as it now stands cites such a publication ("The Anna Ivey Guide to Law School Admission") and a link to the Vault.com column to which she contributes. Given the murkiness and contentiousness of "notability," I think it is best to err on the side of keeping an article. Moreover, judging from interestingstuffadder's comment on the pages's history, it seems that even the nominator for this AfD has reconsidered. --Wikiwriter706 23:13, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: the strong response to this AFD has prompted me to do some research (which I am not required to do -- it is up to the article to provide a basis for its notability) and I am getting to where I think it would reasonable to keep this. Also, a review of Wikiwriter706's fine contributions make me think that we can count on this article's ongoing improvement. However, I also still do not think this article reaches the criteria for wikipedia:speedy keep (though I imagine it will be kept when 5 days elapse). Interestingstuffadder 23:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: You're right that it seems likely to be kept so it doesn't matter too much whether or not it is speedily kept, but I do believe it currently meets the criteria for wikipedia:speedy keep since you, the nominator, seem to be stating you don't actually want the article deleted and there has been no other delete vote, valid or otherwise. --Wikiwriter706 23:32, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: although I am coming around, I have not yet formally withdrawn the AFD. The speedy keep guidelines indicate that in order for the article to be kept based upon my will I would need to withdraw the AFD. But I agree that you probably have nothing to worry about. Interestingstuffadder 23:48, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment. The speedy keep is not binding, it's just one user's opinion. Consensus amongst the keeps and deletes will provide the concensus. As I mentioned in my weak keep, I would be hesistant on the article (in other words, I wouldn't have voted; I don't vote when I'm hesitant) had I not looked up Wikiwriter's contribution history, which I thought I linked to but appearantly I just linked to the userpage. Teke 04:29, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: although I am coming around, I have not yet formally withdrawn the AFD. The speedy keep guidelines indicate that in order for the article to be kept based upon my will I would need to withdraw the AFD. But I agree that you probably have nothing to worry about. Interestingstuffadder 23:48, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: You're right that it seems likely to be kept so it doesn't matter too much whether or not it is speedily kept, but I do believe it currently meets the criteria for wikipedia:speedy keep since you, the nominator, seem to be stating you don't actually want the article deleted and there has been no other delete vote, valid or otherwise. --Wikiwriter706 23:32, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: the strong response to this AFD has prompted me to do some research (which I am not required to do -- it is up to the article to provide a basis for its notability) and I am getting to where I think it would reasonable to keep this. Also, a review of Wikiwriter706's fine contributions make me think that we can count on this article's ongoing improvement. However, I also still do not think this article reaches the criteria for wikipedia:speedy keep (though I imagine it will be kept when 5 days elapse). Interestingstuffadder 23:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep meets notability criteria. Amcfreely 04:09, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per above. --MaNeMeBasat 10:03, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Keep per above. Probably bad-faith nomination; nominator AfD'd article less than a week after creation and despite obvious notability and without making any effort to discuss issues on this or the creator's talk page.Sparklemotion 17:06, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- I really don't appreciate being accused of bad faith. As the article has developed I have in fact engaged in a dialogue with the author about it and have acknowledged that it has become a solid article and I would not nominate it for deletion again. When I nominated this article it simply did not make a case for notability -- now it does. I am an experienced editor and I really resent being accused of bad faith in a public forum. Interestingstuffadder 00:36, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- Let things like that ride, keep cool :) After all, you get the credit of being flamed on the user's first contribution! Teke 04:31, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know what else you would call a violation of AfD etiquette like this. An experienced editor really shouldn't be using AfD as a first resort without using a more appropriate tag or making a good-faith effort to discuss issues. Sparklemotion 17:33, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- There's a lot seperating bad faith from poor etiquette. Look around the wiki -- plenty of articles are AFDed soon after being created, especially when created by inexperienced editors (which this page's creator was when he/she created the article). Frankly, when I first saw this it article it seemed like non-notable vanity to me. I have since been convinced otherwise. Maybe I should have waited longer before adding the AFD tag, but "bad faith" is an extremely strong accusation around these parts. Obviously I wasn't aware of the articles "obvious" notability. Bad faith implies that I AFDed this article out of some ulterior or nefarious motive -- there is absolutely no evidence of that. Thus, if you are truly interested in being part of a community that values civility perhaps you should pause before levelling such pointed accusations at other editors. Interestingstuffadder 17:56, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- So can we shake hands? There are 2,000 to 3,000 articles/stubs created every day. About 500 get speedy, 300 get prod, and up to 150 on AfD. It's all in process, Sparklemotion. Interestingstuffadder, perhaps you might not want to argue your own nominations so seriously. Sometimes it's best to throw it out there and get out of the way. Teke 06:34, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- There's a lot seperating bad faith from poor etiquette. Look around the wiki -- plenty of articles are AFDed soon after being created, especially when created by inexperienced editors (which this page's creator was when he/she created the article). Frankly, when I first saw this it article it seemed like non-notable vanity to me. I have since been convinced otherwise. Maybe I should have waited longer before adding the AFD tag, but "bad faith" is an extremely strong accusation around these parts. Obviously I wasn't aware of the articles "obvious" notability. Bad faith implies that I AFDed this article out of some ulterior or nefarious motive -- there is absolutely no evidence of that. Thus, if you are truly interested in being part of a community that values civility perhaps you should pause before levelling such pointed accusations at other editors. Interestingstuffadder 17:56, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was merge with Extraterrestrial real estate. Apparently done already, I'll just place a redirect here. Sjakkalle (Check!) 10:01, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Moon for sale
Marginally unencyclopedic, magnet for advertising sockpuppets, and generally useless even if arguendo not unencyclopedic. Delete. --Nlu (talk) 03:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, deletion is not a cure for controversy, revert wars, linkspam, etc. This is an established article that covers a topic that requires NPOV treatment. Instead of asking for deletion, clean it up! --AlexWCovington (talk) 04:13, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge with Extra-terrestrial real estate. NurMisur 06:58, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge with Extra-terrestrial real estate. Arctic Gnome 09:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge in to Extra-terrestrial real estate. --blue520 09:11, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, though it could use a cleanup. - Richardcavell 12:24, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge to Extra-terrestrial real estate. --Terence Ong 15:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge with Extra-terrestrial real estate. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 17:45, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge with Extra-terrestrial real estate. --ElKevbo 20:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Weak Keep + Comment... I'm going to try to clean this article up, with a NPOV, now that my computer is working... and also, Merge with Extra-terrestrial real estate... It seems much cleaner, and more informative. Sincerely, Logical2u 21:19, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Redirect/merge to/with Extra-terrestrial real estate __earth 06:27, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was merge with Extra-terrestrial real estate. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:55, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Dennis Hope
Similar to Moon for sale above, except that here, notability is a major question as well. Delete. --Nlu (talk) 03:56, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Weak keep erm...or maybe move to extra-terrestrial real estate. Or even move to List of wrong people =]. M1ss1ontomars2k4 00:24, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge into Extra-terrestrial real estate, as above. Shenme 05:28, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Merge per Shenme. Colonel Tom 23:06, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 06:22, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Tuscarawas County Rabblerousers
The article is either a joke, or a vanity page, but it certainly is not, in any way, an article about a real Major League Baseball team. A Google search gives 0 hits. Charles 04:06, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- This is so obviously a hoax that it should be a speedy delete for vandalism. --Metropolitan90 04:29, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- You are welcome to change it, if you like. This is only my 2nd listing for deletion, so I'm willing to say I listed it incorrectly.--Charles 04:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Please note that my comment was intended as criticism of the article, not of your method of nominating it. --Metropolitan90 04:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Understood.--Charles 04:55, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Please note that my comment was intended as criticism of the article, not of your method of nominating it. --Metropolitan90 04:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- You are welcome to change it, if you like. This is only my 2nd listing for deletion, so I'm willing to say I listed it incorrectly.--Charles 04:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, hoax. The nomination is correct, although {{prod}} could have been used instead. Hoaxes are not a criterion for speedy deletion. Sandstein 04:57, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- ...unless they're vandalism, which this very nearly is. Stifle (talk) 13:24, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, hoax. (But there's no way this would have been accepted as a speedy-per-vanadalism or speedy-per-nonsense.) Angr (talk • contribs) 16:11, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as hoax. Colonel Tom 23:07, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 06:22, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Unit 2
Useless trivia. Could probably be merged somewhere but I don't think it's worth it Hirudo 04:18, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, WP:BAI point five. Sandstein 04:55, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Nitpick do you mean point six? Hirudo 05:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, Fails to show any notable difference to the X number of student accommodation/residential halls around the world.--blue520 09:51, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - I'd like to give it a chance to expand. Some of these student halls from top universities are worth encyclopedia articles. - Richardcavell 10:20, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- It's been around since last December, and in that time not one single word has been added to it apart from vandalism. It hasn't expanded in months: there's no reason to suppose it will ever expand. It's hard to see how it could expand. Delete. — Haeleth Talk 18:48, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Please think twice before creating an article about any of the following: ... Your dormitory ... WP:BAI point six. This article makes no claim to notability for the building. --Metropolitan90 22:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. A set of buildings someplace. They have rooms in them. The rooms have people in them, and some have other stuff in them. No, wait! It's a 'special' place! And 'special' people! And 'special' stuff! (Acck! Gotta stop reading these Afd's, else I'll transgress No Personal Apoplexy) Shenme 05:36, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per norm. San Saba 10:47, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:BAI. Stifle (talk) 13:23, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was keep and rename to List of radio stations in Spain. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:31, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
List of Spanish language radio stations in Spain
Yet another useless list. At most there should be just a page with Spanish radio stations in any language instead of this Hirudo 04:23, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Delete per nom, no idea why prod was removed with no explanation or maintanance to the page. Appropriate Username 07:30, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. Maybe move to List of radio stations in Spain (which should then have subsections on Catalan and Basque stations, I suppose). Just about every country has several notable radio stations, and there is nothing wrong with organizing these in a list. See List of radio stations in Greece, List of radio stations in Portugal, List of radio stations in Turkey, List of radio stations in Alabama or List of radio stations in California. David Sneek 12:29, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep and rename to List of radio stations in Spain, per David Sneek. -- Visviva 12:44, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep and rename to List of radio stations in Spain, per David Sneek. NoIdeaNick 14:35, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep and rename to List of radio stations in Spain. --Terence Ong 15:38, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Move to
list of Afrikaans language radio stations in spainof course to List of radio stations in Spain, per Sneek. This article's title is even nonsense. M1ss1ontomars2k4 00:22, 23 April 2006 (UTC) Delete (or failing that, rename to a less-nonsense name), wrongly deprodded by chronic de-prodder Kappa.Kuzaar 15:22, 23 April 2006 (UTC)- Comment - the article's name isn't that nonsensical, "Spanish language radio stations" would have to include the Americas, and in Spain several languages are spoken apart from Spanish: Basque, Occitan, Catalan, Galician. David Sneek 19:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, but do all languages need a separate list? Hirudo 19:45, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Not necessarily; I just wanted to point out that there is a rationale behind the name the article has now. David Sneek 20:04, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- On further consideration, this information would be better preserved in a larger article with subsections for other languages, as above voters. Kuzaar 14:52, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment - the article's name isn't that nonsensical, "Spanish language radio stations" would have to include the Americas, and in Spain several languages are spoken apart from Spanish: Basque, Occitan, Catalan, Galician. David Sneek 19:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 06:23, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Nursing and Healthcare Management
This article is not about nursing and healthcare management in general, just a joint degree program at a single university. Misplaced Pages is not an indiscriminate collection of information. An individual academic program at a university is generally too narrow a topic to warrant an article of its own. I recommend a delete. --Metropolitan90 04:24, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - sounds too much like an advertisement put there by the school. - Richardcavell 10:21, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete fancruft or adcruft M1ss1ontomars2k4 00:21, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nominator's arguments. Colonel Tom 23:09, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was Speedy delete per CSD:A3 - article's entire content is rewording of the title or links elsewhere. Stifle (talk) 12:04, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
List of Pokémon world metropolitan areas
Original research/fanfiction; while these areas exist in Pokémon, they are never referred to by these names or even referred to as "regions" or "metropolitan areas". Hirudo 04:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Note: Page was re-prodded by someone after Kappa de-prodded it, so I'm converting that person's prod into an Afd. Hirudo 04:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: List of pokemon world metropolitan areas should also be deleted (it is basically a redirect)--Zxcvbnm 21:43, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- I reprodded it (and clearly I want it deleted), because I meant to fix the deletion reasoning anyway. The original prod had a lousy reason. AFDing it is fine, too, though. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:53, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete pokecruft ⇒ SWATJester Aim Fire! 09:06, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, Pokemoncruft. --Terence Ong 15:42, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. BryanG 19:15, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as OR M1ss1ontomars2k4 00:20, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. San Saba 10:44, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, and ask that de-prods are done by editors who actually know something about the subject matter and feel they can improve it, per the rational on the prod template. Deizio 11:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. "Metropolitan areas" in Pokemon are non-canon. Sjakkalle (Check!) 06:44, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, Listcruft article inappropriately deprodded by chronic deprodder Kappa. Kuzaar 11:58, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- If Kappa did not want this deleted, there was nothing inappropriate in deprodding. Sjakkalle (Check!) 06:09, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- Keep This could possibly be the single most important entry on Misplaced Pages. ... Haha. Just kidding. Speedy Delete. 209.6.26.54 00:03, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Per nominator. —Encephalon 00:09, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, mainly due to being a list of one item, which is a redlink. In fact, I'm going to speedy this under CSD:A3. Stifle (talk) 12:04, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 16:07, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
EA Web - East Anglia Forums
Article fails to meet WP:WEB and reeks of advertizing. Coren 04:38, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete: only 375 Google results , no alexa ranking, and nothing that moves it anywhere near the vicinity of WP:WEB. --Hetar 04:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, advert, WP:WEB. Stifle (talk) 11:59, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and others. --Fang Aili 16:03, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was redirect. Mailer Diablo 06:25, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
List of Eddie plugins
Merge has been done; can't prod so listing here. Hirudo 04:35, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Delete and redirect as merge complete. Sandstein 04:53, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Question, why does it need to be deleted? And not just redirected.--blue520 09:57, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Redirect--blue520 10:07, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Redirect --Terence Ong 15:44, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Redirect and delete. Eusebeus 15:31, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Redirect to comply with GFDL requirements. Stifle (talk) 11:57, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
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