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I am going on break (again), so cannot help again, for the following reasons:

1. You tell me what to do too much
2. You need stubs to be perfect, if they are not perfect, you make me seem like a criminal with those ultra-harsh comments
3. Misplaced Pages is killing my grades
4. Half of you will be celebrating if I leave
5. I'd rather spend this time playing games :).--Deathlaser (talk) 16:21, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

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Misplaced Pages vandalism information
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Low to moderate level of vandalism

3.57 RPM according to EnterpriseyBot 01:10, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

Mechanical pest control assessment

I suggest requesting assessment from WP:WikiProject Agriculture. LadyofShalott 14:44, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Stubs

On all of the Copelatus articles you created, please add correct interwiki links to the bottom of them before making any more articles. Regards, ⇒TAP 20:48, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

WWF

Given that you are back from your short break, can I please direct your attention to this discussion? This is not meant to be badgering, but it would be nice if we could help you out; wikifying is common, although not always done properly, and there's no time like the present to learn new tricks. :) Cheers, Nolelover 03:17, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikibreak reasons

Hey DL! I know that it is never a good feeling when you are told that what to do or that your work is not perfect with comments that "sound" harsh. But always look from perspective of the commenter also. Anyways, I was here to object the reason 4, obviously no one will be happy if you don't edit. Don't feel small, you are an asset to us :) →TSU  16:50, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

PS: I agree with 5th point. →TSU  16:50, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Go away, I am not letting you persuade me into staying again!--Deathlaser (talk) 16:59, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry if I've contributed to your feeling like you need to leave. You are certainly not a "criminal" (nor a vandal). Stubs are by nature not "perfect", but it is a problem if a bunch of errors are left for others to clean up. I did suggest having experienced editors look over your template before starting a batch. I will not be celebrating your leave-taking. Your other reasons are matters of personal priority, and it is, of course, up to you to decide how you need and want to spend your time. LadyofShalott 17:14, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm coming into this basically blind, having not taken part in the earlier discussion and having only seen some of the information. I don't think anyone would be happy at your leaving. However, I also note that it is a valid concern if one creates a large number of seriously flawed stubs. We have other editors who have created a huge number of articles, like User:Dr. Blofeld, who in some ways is one of our most highly regarded editors. He's made around 30,000 or so. I hope you reconsider your leaving, at least to the extent that the behavior of any other individuals here is involved, and, should you decide to become active again, maybe contact him for maybe some ideas on how to go about creating a large number of articles quickly. John Carter (talk) 23:33, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Doc's made 86,000. ⇒TAP 06:38, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

• I think if you really stuck at it, you could learn to be a great editor. We certainly wouldn't celebrate the loss of an editor. But if you want to leave, that's your choice, and I would say your grades are far more important than anything here at Misplaced Pages - and games are assuredly more fun. Best of luck, and I hope to see you around sometime in the future. :) Bunnies! Leave a message 06:01, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
  • OK!Now I will come clean. Over the past 1 month some-one kept emailing me from an annoymous--(large string of number)---@gmail.com account saying that they were an admin on Misplaced Pages and if I didn't comply with a list they made I would be blocked from editing and they will try to take legal action against me. In those e-mails they also included an screen shot of me asking some-thing in the reference desk which apparently "sounds a bit suspicious". Then the e-mail goes on for about five more paragraphs about exactly what it is I need to do!--Deathlaser (talk) 15:36, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Can you forward it to me? →TSU  15:40, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

No, or they might actually sue me!--Deathlaser (talk) 15:42, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

It is G3. Hoax. Someone is misleading I guess. →TSU  15:44, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

You wouldn't say that if you saw what was in that attachment.--Deathlaser (talk) 15:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't believe anything until I see it. →TSU  15:48, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I'll mail you a permanent link to that refdesk page.--Deathlaser (talk) 15:51, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I've left a note about this for someone with more experience in handling such things.

While I'm here, I'll mention that the reference desks tend to be very heavily watched, so anything that's so tame as to still be visible to ordinary users after more than a month, is very very very unlikely to be something it would be practical for anyone to sue anyone over. And secondly, the vast majority of internet legal threats turn out to be just hot air. (I've received dozens of legal threats, but I've never received any legal paperwork as a result.) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:00, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

You are all snitches!--Deathlaser (talk) 16:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

And how am I a "self-identified minor". I reverted your edits.--Deathlaser (talk) 16:32, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I saw that. To answer your question, a self-identified minor is someone who comments on-wiki indicating that they are a minor.

Here's some more advice. If something is "secret", or you don't want it to be told to anyone, then don't post it on Misplaced Pages - on your talk page or anywhere else. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:36, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I just want this to end-but do not want to give up my account nor get sued!--Deathlaser (talk) 16:40, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

The reality is — you're not gonna get sued. ⇒TAP 16:44, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

If they are an admin, and they were to block you, then they'd get desysopped or banned for making legal threats.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 16:50, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Someone has been yanking your chain, Deathlaser. Do not respond to them. Ignore them. LadyofShalott 19:02, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Now they are spamming my inbox with attachments containing pictures of horrific prison scenes.--Deathlaser (talk) 19:20, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Change the e-mail address in your settings?--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 19:24, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Or you can block the sender. I think all email sites have a way to do that. And if you receive any similar emails in the future, including ones with legal threats, block the sender and delete. Bunnies! Leave a message 19:26, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about my previous behaviour, I thought it was one of you.--Deathlaser (talk) 19:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Certainly not. There are a few spam emails that target Wikipedians, that I've heard of, including ones trying to get your account details (if you ever get any of those, delete them too). Bunnies! Leave a message 19:50, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

The legal threats just don't stop, as for the demands-now I am supposed to vote for him in a RfB that will come in a month or so and I was supposed to pretend to be helped by him and give him lots of credit and make him look really good. And he still won't tell me what his account name is!--Deathlaser (talk) 20:05, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Was the initial email sent by the Misplaced Pages email function? If so, it will say the username of the sender at the bottom. Regards, ⇒TAP 20:10, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

You might want to forward copies of this correspondence to ArbCom. Abusive emails are never acceptable. LadyofShalott 20:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I am not a wimp or a nerd. Thus, I can take a few swear words. But threats to get me arrested and locked up and pictures of horrific prison scenes are things I cannot tolerate. I could, of course, meet his demands and then things might get better. But, meeting his demands require lots and lots of time and very hard-work. E.g.: One of his demands are for me to promote 20 of his articles to GA status and 10 of them to FA status. Not very possible for me.--Deathlaser (talk) 20:39, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

They cannot get you locked up, and if you accede to his demands it will not help. I would take OohBunnies and LadyofShallott's advice.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 20:43, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I was also supposed to give him an auto-patrolled account-and you sure ruined that!--Deathlaser (talk) 20:44, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Forward the email now to arbcom-llists.wikimedia.org, ArbCom. Regards, ⇒TAP 20:47, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Everything you have described is ridiculous and not acceptable. Someone is just seeking attention and has for some reason picked you to harass. Please, forward copies to ArbCom. LadyofShalott 20:48, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

What can Arbcom do, Block them! Blocking will not prevent legal action.--Deathlaser (talk) 20:50, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

And what legal action do you think they can actually take? DL, that is bullshit, and you should not buy into it! They are jerking you around. Don't let them. LadyofShalott 20:53, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to my world, I am used to this kind of e-mail every-day from class-mates, but my class-mates make threats of violence, not legal threats!This is a first!--Deathlaser (talk) 20:57, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I've had a few in my time! I just ignored them. The only thing I had an issue with was a user sending emails asking for passwords. Regards, ⇒TAP 20:59, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Don't buy into it, you haven't done anything wrong, they can't take legal action against you, if anything, it'd be the other way round for harassment.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 21:00, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Give me you e-mails and I will tell you what action they say they will take.--Deathlaser (talk) 21:02, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

You have mail.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 21:03, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

... and from me too. →Στc. 21:04, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Nice to see a few friendly e-mail over all those legal threat ones.--Deathlaser (talk) 21:05, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I've sent you a nice 'friendly' one from me! ⇒TAP 21:12, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

How strange!--Deathlaser (talk) 21:20, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Eh? ⇒TAP 21:21, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Now he made things serious!--Deathlaser (talk) 21:29, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

CONGRATULATIONS, now I am deleting my G-mail.--Deathlaser (talk) 21:32, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

I sent you an e-mail as well. It should have my name as sender. I sincerely hope that you read it, and perhaps at least consider some of the actions I discuss. John Carter (talk) 23:39, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion. Make a new email address. Delete your old email address. Turn off your "Email this user" function. Don't give out any information about yourself on-wiki. Now no-one can email you threats of any sort, and they can't sue you either because they don't know who you are. (And no, they haven't magically hacked you or identified you using stolen checkuser powers or anything else - think about it, if they already had checkuser powers then they wouldn't be messing around trying to get autopatrolled.) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Yesterday I had a major flame war with him on FB, some of his remarks were just too horrible to quote.--Deathlaser (talk) 17:10, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

• Hi Deathlaser. First you need to calm down. Secondly, those emails sounds like phishing, nobody can order you around to write X number of articles. Thirdly, anyone who makes legal threats, even admins, get blocked because no editor is supposed to do that, not here, not anywhere else. Forthly, if you have received this email via "E-mail this user" feature (the ending of the email will look like it was sent from some other user), forward it to Arbcom so that it can be investigated. - Mailer Diablo 20:38, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Yawn, the "Email this user" function was not used as no usernames can be seen, anyway how is it phishing?--Deathlaser (talk) 20:51, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
    • Don't you find the email strange when you said that the email address contained only a large string of numbers and the so-called admin doesn't identify himself/herself in the email? - Mailer Diablo 20:57, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
      • Well, if he did tell me, I would have told you all his User name and he could've been indefed. If he wasn't an admin-why would he tell me to vote in an upcoming RfB.--Deathlaser (talk) 21:01, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
        • Ah, now we see what is going on. Someone is trying to use you as a meat puppet to vote. That's a big NO-NO for any so-called admin to do that. This is all the more reason you should forward those emails to Arbcom so that we can find out who is the culprit behind it. - Mailer Diablo 21:10, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
• Those legal threats are groundless. I have dealt with legal documents before. They will provide their full name and address that is clearly identified and have very specific wording or language. What you should do is to relax and not worry any more about them. Admins know better that legal threats result in instant block. If the originator has identified themselves on FB or in the email, you should forward it to Arbcom for them to investigate. - Mailer Diablo 21:10, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Deathlaser, please email me, I have something to ask you. ⇒TAP 21:08, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Requesting immediate oversight-upon asking the attacker how he got my e-mail he responds with "Are you that disabled you forget you put the e-mail on your user page." (all the more reasons I don't like e-mailing him) and can I just mention I have no major disablities!--Deathlaser (talk) 15:24, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Deathlaser, why do you continue to communicate with that person? Ignore it. The more you respond, the more you feed it. I strongly suggest you read Misplaced Pages:Do not feed the trolls). LadyofShalott 16:58, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

And have you read wp:DOLT, their legal threats sound serious.--Deathlaser (talk) 17:07, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

That is an essay, an opinion piece, and not policy. Ignore them.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 17:20, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

In addition to what Gilderien said, it doesn't even apply to the situation you are experiencing - someone clearly familiar with Misplaced Pages who is pulling your chain. Everytime you answer them, you encourage their harassment. Please, forward the emails to ArbCom and DO NOT RESPOND. LadyofShalott 17:50, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Just to point out to you one way this is completely ridiculous: (A) you say the person has said you must support him in a RfB. (B) you don't know the person's username. (C) How on earth can you be expected to do (A) without knowing (B)? Think about it. LadyofShalott 18:04, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Frankly, it sounds like the whole thing is a hoax. The only question is whether the hoax is being perpetrated by a real-world friend or by Deathlaser (who says, for example, that he had a flamewar on Facebook... but still doesn't know who it is). WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:38, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Not a friend. more a bully!--Deathlaser (talk) 19:42, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

The reason I did not reveal the whole story was mainly because Doing so would've given you my real identity.--Deathlaser (talk) 19:53, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Why don't all of you give me your e-mails?!I have e-mailed several people the truth already!--Deathlaser (talk) 19:57, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Truth please! You know mine. ⇒TAP 19:59, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

And mine.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 20:18, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

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→TSU  06:34, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

In response to your feedback

It looks like your being helped by User:Mailer Diablo, I suggest you take his advice.

Callanecc (talk) 02:39, 14 June 2012 (UTC)