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Thank you kindly for your words

I just can't tell you how much your words meant to me, but they've made my day for two days now. Thanks for commenting at the BP DR, and for being here at Misplaced Pages! petrarchan47c 22:18, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

You are welcome. Thank you for trying to keep Misplaced Pages neutral. Binksternet (talk) 22:27, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

If you have any extra time, would you be willing to hear a few thoughts I had regarding spin and special interests on Misplaced Pages? You might know where I should take the observations so that something (less time consuming than DRN) can be done. petrarchan47c 22:11, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

You can post publicly right here or email me. Binksternet (talk) 23:07, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Done, thanks again. petrarchan47c 19:32, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

We are in agreement. Do you have any idea how malleable Misplaced Pages is? Are they open to new ideas like the one you mentioned? And how would one go about that process? I can give you my email if you let me know you want to email me. Thank you again (insert emoticon smiley here). petrarchan47c 05:22, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Also, good news to know that some 'power editors' are actually good guys. On another note, I noticed you've edited the Iran coup of 1953. I found "All the Shaw's Men" online! I did a pretty extensive amount of research in the past month, and ran across a few more very interesting articles regarding the coup: 123. Thought I'd drop them off for you just in case you find them interesting too. petrarchan47c 06:01, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

I've emailed you my addy. petrarchan47c 06:14, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

I can see your email address, of course, and I can reply to it, but I prefer the little bit of anonymity that is provided by emailing through Misplaced Pages's server. Binksternet (talk) 22:32, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Makes sense. I'll enable that function. petrarchan47c 23:06, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Regarding US Troop suicides, the section which shows editor's unwilllingness to allow criticisms on that page is here. "US Troops" redirects to this page as well as the Army and Military Deployments. petrarchan47c 23:13, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

I am thinking it is time to take this to the Administrator's Noticeboard. Would you feel comfortable offering an opinion on that? petrarchan47c 07:27, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

I would certainly comment on such a noticeboard discussion thread. However, I think it more appropriate to keep working on it for a while longer at the article talk page. The next steps might be Request for Comment on the article talk page, or a question directed to the military history project page. Binksternet (talk) 15:51, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Oops, I was referring to the BP issue, actually. petrarchan47c 03:21, 5 July 2012 (UTC) I've decided I will be opening up a case at ANI and would welcome your involvement. Your suggestion for the military is really good, once I've recuperated from the current project, I might go ahead and follow your advice. petrarchan47c 03:44, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Great stuff

In connection with your comment on Women in architecture, I've just been looking at Santa Maria de Ovila. Great stuff! Keep up the good work. - Ipigott (talk) 19:35, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much! :)

Binksternet (talk) 19:46, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

teacher

	teaches
	I appreciate the coaching, will you further explain what was wrong with my edit. J.S. Fullmer was my 4th great grandfather. I am very interested in telling more people about him. Cjohn0821 (talk) 08:47, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Your 3RR complaint about American Legislative Exchange Council

Hi Binksternet. Is this still an active dispute? WP:AN3#User:Arthur Rubin reported by User:Binksternet (Result: ). No admins have commented yet. Let me know if the complaint can be closed. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 01:42, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Close it. The danger to the wiki has passed. A block at this point would be punitive. Binksternet (talk) 02:21, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

WP:0RR at Debate over the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki

As you were a recent participant in an edit war at the above-named article I am taking the opportunity to warn you formally that the article is now under a no-reverts rule. This means that from now on anyone making a revert will be blocked instantly without further warning, except in cases of really obvious vandalism. Instead of reverting, you should consider trying for compromise either by drafting a good-faith compromise in the article, or discussing towards one in talk. Edit-warring deters other editors and poisons the atmosphere that we need to edit constructively. Please do not do it.--John (talk) 15:24, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

I think you should have locked the article instead. Binksternet (talk) 17:02, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 June newsletter

Apologies for the lateness of this letter; our usual bot wasn't working. We are now entering round 4, our semi-finals, and have our final 16. A score of 243 was required to reach this round; significantly more than 2011's 76 points, and only a little behind 2010's 250 points. By comparison, last year, 150 points in round 4 secured a place in the final; in 2010, 430 were needed. Commiserations to Pool A's igordebraga (submissions), who scored 242 points, missing out on a place in the round by a whisker. However, congratulations to Pool B's Grapple X (submissions), whose television articles have brought him another round victory. Pool A's Cwmhiraeth (submissions) came second overall, with an impressive list of biological did you knows, good articles and featured articles. Third overall was Pool D's Muboshgu (submissions), with a long list of contibutions, mostly relating to baseball. Of course, with the points resetting every round, the playing field has been levelled. The most successful Pool was Pool D, which saw seven into the final round. Pool B saw four, C saw three and Pool A saw only the two round leaders.

A quick note about other competitions taking place on Misplaced Pages which may be of interest. There are 13 days remaining in the June-July GAN backlog elimination drive, but it is not too late to take part. August will also see the return of The Core Contest- a one month long competition first run in 2007. While the WikiCup awards points for audited content on any subject, The Core Contest about is raw article improvement, focussing heavily on the most important articles on Misplaced Pages. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 10:45, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Which photos?

Working with recent addition by IP editor who says he is grandson. Unfortunately, there is solid proof of Arlington burial

I did a check on the Arlington online search and it didn't find a record for George Churchill Kenney. I would think a fairly prominent person would have been referenced in the online lookup. -- Avanu (talk) 03:58, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

I guess I meant to say multiple website references and one photo. There is a photo at the bottom of Arlington's official page for Kenney. The photo was taken by Michael R. Patterson, a guy who only takes photos of Arlington tombstones. He does not normally travel to distant cemeteries for photos. He wrote that Kenney's tombstone, the one in his photo, is in "Section 30 (Grave 398) of Arlington National Cemetery". Other websites confirm that Kenney was buried in Arlington. I searched for a George Kenney burial in Florida in 1977, but I got nothing. I understand that sometimes a body is moved from or to Arlington, but there is no evidence of two burials for Kenney. Binksternet (talk) 04:14, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Took a look at that picture. Did a lookup at http://gravelocator.cem.va.gov/j2ee/servlet/NGL_v1

KENNEY, SARAH ELIZABETH W/O GEORGE C

DATE OF BIRTH: 03/15/1912

DATE OF DEATH: 12/26/1970

BURIED AT: SECTION 30 SITE 398 R H

ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY

C/O DIRECTOR ARLINGTON, VA 22211

(703) 607-8000

UNKNOWN RELATIONSHIP TO VETERAN

GEN USAF

It's a little odd that it is done like this. "W/O GEORGE C" and "UNKNOWN RELATIONSHIP". I assume W/O means "wife of". It might be done in a slightly different way, because it looks like she died in 1970 and he died 7 years later. So Arlington would have made a tombstone without his date of death. Maybe? -- Avanu (talk) 08:28, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Looks to me as if the tombstone was made when Kenney's second wife some woman died in 1970, but when he died in 1977 the descendants of Kenney and the first wife decided that he should not lie next to the second wife this woman in eternity. I can find no record of a funeral ceremony for Kenney, anywhere. I am having difficulty finding more about the first wife. Binksternet (talk) 15:40, 3 July 2012 (UTC) (Strikethrough and changes made. Binksternet (talk) 22:14, 3 July 2012 (UTC))

The two marriages producing children are explained in this bit written by author Thomas E. Griffith in a biography of Kenney: "Kenney's time in Long Island was also marked by personal tragedy and transition. His wife Hazel died in September 1922, shortly after giving birth to a son, William Richardson Kenney. Hazel had previously been pregnant with twins, but suffered a miscarriage, and doctors warned her about the risks of another pregnancy. She was, however, determined to have a baby. 'If I die having this baby, it will be worth it,' she told her sister. Kenney, devastated by the death of his wife, also faced the practical problems involved with caring for an infant son; and he prevailed on Alice Maxey, a nurse and neighbor on Long Island, for help. The two were married almost a year later on June 5, 1923, in her hometown of Gardner, Maine, shortly before Kenney's return to Dayton, Ohio." Page 21 of MacArthur's airman: General George C. Kenney and the war in the southwest Pacific.

Another big clue is this bit from a 1946 biography encyclopedia: "By the first marriage he has a son, William Richardson Kenney, and by the second. a daughter, Julia Churchill Kenney."

I'm getting bits and pieces from Google searches.

• Julia Churchill Kenney got her B.A. in English at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill in 1947. She was listed as being from Osborn, Ohio. Thus she was born about 1925.
• William R. Kenney was born in August or September 1922; in August 1944 he was described as 22 years old in an article in Army News published in Darwin, Australia. "General Meets Son Long Way from Home". This same William R. Kenney was retired in 1977 when his dad died, and he wrote a letter to Air Force Magazine titled "Tribute to a Great Leader".
• The Armed Forces journal international: Volume 81, Issues 1-26, contains a piece from 1946 (I think) announcing the birth of a boy: "KENNEY—Born in Cincinnati, Ohio, to Lt. and Mrs. William Richardson Kenney, AAF, a son, grandson of Lt. Gen. and Mrs. George C. Kenney and Maj. and Mrs. Harvey Shirley. USA. The baby will be named for General Kenney." I don't know when William R. Kenney married the daughter of Major Harvey Shirley.
• I see mentions of a George C. Kenney II who, with his wife Olga Kisakos-Kenney, gave works of art to various institutions including the Herbert F. Johnson Museum of Art, Cornell University, in 1995. This is probably the grandson born in the '40s, "named for General Kenney". George C. Kenney II appears to have been director of an optics research group with Philips Laboratory in Briarcliff Manor, NY, working with lasers and digital optical storage. He collected clocks and was president and secretary of the American Section of the Antiquarian Horological Society ASAHS, according to a 7 July 1980 story in The New Yorker. Binksternet (talk) 17:04, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Binkie, this is fascinating stuff. I have started to expand the article. Feel free to change or expand anything you don't like. Keep digging! See if you can get to the bottom of this. Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:56, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Please refer to me as Bink, or Binkster, or Binksternet.

Regarding the tombstone in Arlington which reads "His Beloved Wife Sarah Elizabeth Kenney 1912–1970", the most upstanding explanation I can think of is that Kenney maybe divorced his second wife and married "Sarah Bell Elizabeth Kenney", as listed in the text of the Arlington website, or "Sarah Elizabeth somebody. The absence of a death date engraved on the tomb under General Kenney's name indicates to me that his remains were never put under that particular marker.

Perhaps coincidentally, Kenney's grandmother was named Sarah E. Kenney, according to Geni.com. Grandmother Kenney was born about 1851 and took part in the 1930 census out of Worcester, Massachusetts, according to Ancestry.com.

In Boston, the public library has a book they have not digitized but they will loan it out: The ancestors of General George C. Kenney, USAF (ret.), Captain Roland W. Kenney, USN (ret.) : a genealogy of the Kenney family of Boston, Braintree, Milton, Cape Cod, Massachusetts, Barrington, Nova Scotia, Brookline and Beverly, Mass. (1973). You can click on the link "Borrow" then begin to fill out the request. It might have information about a possible third marriage, being that it was published in 1973. Binksternet (talk) 22:14, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Let's keep the discussion going at Talk:George Kenney#What's with the Arlington tombstone?. See you there! Binksternet (talk) 22:20, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Oops

Just wanted to say sorry for accidentally reverting you here. I fat fingered my iPad and apparently hit rollback by mistake. I saw the edit this morning under my contributions. I'm not even editing the article, but wanted to explain to you what happened. Thanks, 72Dino (talk) 16:52, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

No sweat! Thanks for the note. Binksternet (talk) 17:04, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Category:Books about parenting

Category:Books about parenting, which you created, has been nominated for renaming to Category:Parenting books. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- Black Falcon 01:30, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

constructive criticism

Whatever..
perhaps you will all get the point?
for Misplaced Pages to stop hard assing/harassing authors.
ie: such as use of a flagging system for Misplaced Pages "police actions".
wiki-bots are unlawful and should not be used to police copyrights.
complaints might be better off again on a flagging system.
after 1day I will remove your comments and threats from my talk page.
I have read them.
It is not my fault that Misplaced Pages process are arbitrary, snooty and often absurd.
all the people are offended by Misplaced Pages often bizarre requests and deletion of material.
so "ok buddy whatever you say"

do not respond to this response.
--Atomic49er (talk) 18:14, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Dude, you have repeatedly shown a complete lack of interest in conforming to Misplaced Pages's basic house style and guidelines. Your interest here appears to be one of promotion or the presentation of fringe concepts as mainstream. (See User:Atomic49er and Studio Instrument Rentals for promotion, and Talk:Amelia Earhart for fringe ideas.) I do not think you are a good fit for Misplaced Pages. There's nothing further for you here. I recommend you cease wasting your time and the time of others. Binksternet (talk) 18:30, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

July 5 2012

I'd like to give you a procedural warning not to edit other people's userpages, and especially not to war over them. You should go and read basic policy, or ask at the help desk. Penyulap ☏ 00:35, 5 Jul 2012 (UTC)

There are perfectly good reasons to edit someone else's user page, for instance, removing/hiding categories from sandbox workpages, removing non-free images, etc. I think you are in error trying to keep your ridiculous redirect from userpage to articlespace. Binksternet (talk) 01:09, 5 July 2012 (UTC)