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AFD for Ek Var Piyu Ne Malva Aavje

Regarding the AFD discussion for Ek Var Piyu Ne Malva Aavje, you wrote that the result was no consensus. When I look at it, though, I see zero !votes in favor of keeping it, and no one was able to come up with any sources. At this point, wouldn't it just be the equivalent of a Prod? Thanks, Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 01:19, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

I actually twice proposed that something like that be written into the deletion policy but it was rejected both times. Here's one of the proposals Still, I will occasionally do it, usually for BLPs. Ironically, this AFD would not qualify under any of my previous versions of this proposal because in my judgement, MQS's comment was a "neutral comment leaning toward keep". --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:43, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Fair enough… would you have a problem with me prod'ing it in the near future? Dori ☾Talk ⁘ Contribs☽ 02:15, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Actually, anything AFDd is ineligible for PROD. I'd wait a month or so and try again. Also, MQS suggested that the title may have been incorrectly translated and this may be why no sources are being found. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:49, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Swiss Lips recreated?

Hey, Ron, could you take a look at Swiss Lips to see if it has been recreated in terms of G4? It still looks pretty marginally notable at best. Thanks! Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 17:14, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Due to the lack of participation in the first AFD, I renominated it. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:14, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Robert Bruce Findler for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Robert Bruce Findler is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Robert Bruce Findler until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Since you removed the speedy delete tag, I thought you might be interested. Dtm1234 (talk) 14:44, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

PlantUML

I think this page should be restored or rewritten. I've been using PlantUML for a while, and find it quite useful and interesting. It fills a niche that is not handled by any other open source software that I am aware of. Based on a google search today, it has quite a few users, and various derivative works. On Misplaced Pages, there are several links to the page already, and there are certainly places were it could be linked from in the future.

I'd be happy to write some prose regarding it's features and how it compares to other UML software.

Thanks!

Shdwjk (talk) 20:27, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

One major problem was that it was written by somebody with a probable conflict of interest so it would be better if a new article was written by an editor with no association with this software. If you are that editor then you are free to write a new version. Please review your first article and our guidelines on neutral point of view and notability. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:06, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. I will attempt to write a good article about it. --Shdwjk (talk) 13:59, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

inre Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Courtney L'amour

No problem and no complaints from me. Schmidt, 05:13, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the note

If you recall my first RFA from some years back, much ado was made over my own AGF in dealing with someone who was later proven to be a sockpuppet. What was gloatingly asserted as obvious "after-the-fact" was not so obvious to myself and others who initially assumed good faith. I was not alone. There are a lot of us glass-half-full types on Misplaced Pages. In this case, and barring evidence to the contrary, if the statements toward the mixed set of personal disabilities asserted by PPP are true, shouldn't we do what we can as a community to extend the full benefit of the doubt and offer counseling as to how to properly edit? Of course, the obverse side of the coin-flip is that if the person is not who they assert, then any who offer guidence or assistance will be painted as gullible fools by the glass-half-empty types. It would appear that the article in question has addressable issues in its format, content, and sourcing... and could likely be improved to show notability and serve the project... but the AFD has become so filled with animus, I wonder if improving the article is even worth the effort... or if improving it could sway the many nay-sayers. Coming from me... someone who has gone to bat to improve literaly hundreds of articles thought lost at AFD... I ask for advice. Schmidt, 03:32, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Novan Setyo Sasongko

Resolved – Article restored by GiantSnowman. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:58, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Please restore this article. Currently he is meet football player notability as he earn first senior international caps. Thanks *Annas* (talk) 07:04, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Chile–Peru football rivalry

Will you relist the following debate as it was lost & I retrieved it yesterday. Thanks in advance ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 01:09, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Appearance of High-jacked Page

On 23rd June I recovered the Highjacked page of late Abdul Ghafoor Khan Durrani and fixed the citations tag and edited the page by cleaning the article from unnecessary family members, and I also created New page of Mohammad Anwar Khan Durranifor whom this Article was High-jacked, hopefully this may be clean again as I did, Thanks,, --Baloch Warrior 00:03, 28 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baloch Baba (talk • contribs)

The deletion of the 'Tricking' page.

I know this is a late addition to this debate, but I only just found out that 'Tricking' has been deleted as a page on Misplaced Pages. I have had a look around at the process of it's deletion and must say I am disappointed. Not at you by the way! I am sure you are doing what you are doing within the rules and according to your (in this case lacking) criteria, the deletion of this page was probably within the current framework of Misplaced Pages as set out by those higher up. I really am a huge fan of Misplaced Pages, but this deletion has somewhat disappointed me. In light of this, I conclude that there must be problems with the system. I am 28 and hold a Social Sciences degree from the University of London (SOAS). I first came into contact with tricking in 2002 though it's evolution began quite a while before that. I'm not going to spam you with huge numbers of arguments why I believe this decision was wrong, but I will pick out a few of the major ones that I feel are pertinent.

Firstly there is the issue of whether Tricking and Parkour/Free-running are separate. While there is undoubtedly some overlap (e.g. a parkourist will include a tricking combo in a sampler of his/hers on Youtube and vice-versa), they are quite distinct. Parkour/Free Running is about getting from A to B, usually in an urban setting overcoming obstacles such as walls, gaps etc. The essence of Tricking is quite different. Trickers will be found in parks/gymnastics gyms (flat surfaces) and will perform a series of kicks, flips and twists in different combinations in a confined area. Kicking is very central to tricking as the sport evolved out of Martial-arts Kata performances/competitions and Parkour/Free-running developed through an entirely seperate story. The kicking element in most of the flips and twists is one of the defining features of tricking in relation to Gymnastics (another is it's non-linearity: Trickers might flip/twist/kick on the spot or move in a circle)

I realize that as someone who does not do Parkour or Tricking you may not get this distinction, so the best thing to do if you care about this issue of accuracy (and I am slightly worried here that you do not from what I have seen!) is to look on Youtube for Anis Cheurfa (Tricker) and Daniel Ilabaca (Parkourist) as one example. Hopefully you will see that the sports at their core are different. I could provide you with another 100+ names of both self-proclaimed trickers and parkourists which you could then take and do research on Youtube. You seem to want to see old-style media evidence of the sports existence. While there is some, it's not particularly fair to base the decision on this. The majority of the massive amounts of evidence for this sport is on Youtube. Both sports in a way are a kind of Youtube phenomenon with Youtube spreading the word and encouraging the development of practitioner's abilities.

As far as I can see there is an identity war going on between Parkour, Tricking, and breakdancing (and probably others) in terms of who has the coolest sport. This leads to claims from different people in different groups such as "your sport is just an offshoot of our cool sport". These sorts of claims are motivated by inferiority complexes rather than a basis in fact.

Looking at the Afd, I see 3/4 editors chose to delete. First of all this is a small number, secondly none of you appear to really understand this topic, thirdly you don't look like you have consulted with anyone who does and finally any research that has been done appears to be cursory or skimpy at best. I appreciate this is because you belong to a group of a relatively small number of editors editing a huge number of articles. So it is understandable in this way that mistakes can get made.

So I implore you! please rethink this issue. It is important to a significant number of people.

Thanks

Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by Multilingualtricker (talk • contribs) 17:49, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

deleted client

You deleted my clients page. I'd like to get the page back asap.

The page is Jasmine Dustin

If you simply google her you can see Jasmine is a well know fashion model being in ads for Perry Ellis, DuWop Cosmetics, FHM covers, etc.

She is staring in her own reality show called "Doheny Models"

She has a new film coming out late 2012 from the DP of the Descendents.

She appeared on the 3rd season of The League on FX

http://www.free-press-release.com/news-actress-jasmine-dustin-to-appear-in-third-season-of-the-league-on-fx-1320270209.html

http://www.google.com/search?q=jasmine+dustin+on+fhm+cover&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&prmd=imvnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=53zzT6OWB4eo2wXF44H1Bg&ved=0CFQQsAQ&biw=1266&bih=595 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Losangelestoppr (talk • contribs) 23:26, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

  •  Not done While the AFD in question only had 1 !vote, it was an unsourced biography of a living person. Also, it's clear from your use of the phrase "my client" that you have a serious conflict of interest. If an independent editor takes note of her career and elects to write a sourced article from a neutral point of view then he/she may do so but I will not restore the version of the article that was deleted and neither you nor anybody else associated with Jasmine Dustin should recreate this article. If she truly is notable enough for an article then somebody else will notice her and write one. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:02, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

GERRY ONEILL

Hi I see the wiki page for Gerry O'Neill was deleted. I can confirm he was a wreslter in Northern Ireland under the name gary b ware. yes he currently lives in ontario, and yes he did host wrestlenight in flordia, along with Dave Kocotos...you dont have to be there to host a radio show you know. He is co-founder of www.kocosports.com and FYI, the wiki page info on him was all true. How do I know this..he is my husband, so please re add him to the wiki page for famous people from omagh thanks wendy oneill

174.94.65.118 (talk) 12:57, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) This is presumably a followup to your closure of Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Gerry O'Neill, a page whose header includes a link about the deletion review process. DMacks (talk) 20:19, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

NANAE

Further information: Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Vanburrena

Apparently, I'm dealing with you. Of course I'm not, as people quickly realized, and the edit history of the sockpuppets (such as this edit) points to the same person that was identified in NANAE. I thought that you might be amused. Or appalled. Uncle G (talk) 09:24, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Cameron Lindsay

Hi. I see that the page I started on Cameron Lindsay was deleted. (Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Cameron Lindsay ) I understand the reasoning. Would you mind placing a copy of the old page in my user space so, if Lindsay's career progresses, I might add the page back if he eventually meets the criteria? Thanks. Yfever (talk) 18:32, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

You deleted the the page I created

Why was this page deleted, it was a correct account of a movie that is in production has already shot it's first schedule in Vancouver, Canada. Please check the imdb page for more details on this movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2215348/

If you can reinstate this page would be highly appreciated, thanks.

Teamaps (talk) 11:02, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

  • You know why it was deleted. It's right there in the AFD discussion that you yourself just pointed to (which I've tidied for you). If even MichaelQSchmidt cannot help you with a cinematic subject, you know that you are on shaky ground indeed. Find and cite reliable and independent sources other than the IMDB that properly document this purported film in detail. You should have had such sources to hand before you attempted to create the article in the first place. Write with sources in hand that you cite in the article, and you won't experience problems with deletion. Write about things that don't even truly exist yet, that the world hasn't already firmly documented, and you regularly will. Uncle G (talk) 11:40, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Tyreek Hill, undeletion

Could you please take care of this? Thanks. --bender235 (talk) 15:14, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

  • I've independently checked, and the claim that the reasons given for deletion are now invalid seems to be correct. No-one mentioned copyright or libel problems, and there appears at a cursory check to be nothing problematic in that regard (with one incident of BLP vandalism in the history, since reverted). So the page is restored. Uncle G (talk) 23:09, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Going for the hatrick

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Tryon Coterie (3rd nomination)--GrapedApe (talk) 12:16, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Toby Turner (Tobuscus)

Further information: User talk:Joeyppeters § Toby Turner

I have had my Tony Turner (tobuscus) page deleted I believe that he is now notable for his television role on The High Fructose Adventures of Annoying Orange. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeyppeters (talk • contribs) 17:20, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Lord Huron

hi i saw you commented on the deleting of the article on this artist. i wrote a comment on the talk page saying why i think it should exist with some sources. can i make the article?Happy monsoon day 16:15, 22 July 2012 (UTC)