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Another award!

		The Military history A-Class medal
		On behalf of the coordinators of the Military history WikiProject, I'm pleased to award you the A-Class medal for your outstanding work on If Day, Ray Farquharson and Melville Island (Nova Scotia), which were promoted between September 2011 and June 2012. Nick-D (talk) 23:46, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thanks for looking at those DYKs. :D

LauraHale (talk) 02:56, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

You've got mail!

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Your image query for FAC

As per your directions, I contacted an administrator at Commons regarding the dead link source for the India map used in Ra.One. The discussion is here; the last paragraph concerns you the most. Please take a look. Also, would you be so kind as to give a solid Support/Oppose for the FAC? I know I'm begging, but I'm terribly eager for this article since it may be my first FAC. Thanks. ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 16:34, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Were you able to find an archived or updated link somewhere with which you might be able to replace the dead link? Logan's right not to remove it outright absent a solution, but I am a little concerned that no complete reference was provided. As to the FAC, I can take a look, but I've got to warn you that I'm not a film expert and might not be able to support. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:20, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

I think Logan himself searched the Internet Archives and didn't find a satisfactory replacement. He is saying that there should be no problem even with the dead link, so I'm confused now. It would be best if you could add your opinions on Logan's talk page; that way, the matter could be discussed more directly. ~*~AnkitBhatt~*~ 10:22, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Your comments would be appreciated

I have opened a discussion here on what should be included in the Territorial_evolution_of_Canada article. Your comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Ground Zero | t 09:14, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

List of progressive metal artists

Thanks for fixing the image; however, I don't understand. The image wasn't working earlier. And I tried searching for it...BigJoeRockHead (talk) 00:22, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Did you search with the accent on the name? That probably made a difference. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:26, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Oerip Soemohardjo

Hi Nikki, I've answered two of your questions with questions (regarding the best course of action). Could you reply there? Thanks. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:24, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Goéry Delacôte

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DYK for Eaton's catalogue

On 11 July 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Eaton's catalogue, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the "Family Bible" was used as toilet paper? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Eaton's catalogue. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Misplaced Pages:Peer review/Battle of Gao and Timbuktu/archive1

Done mos of what you asked, just dont understand one pointLihaas (talk) 11:14, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Mars Geyser Hopper

Nikkimaria, could you please take a look at this? Even though it's using NASA material, enormous chunks have been lifted wholesale, word for word, with only a footnote to indicate anything at all. Even aside from whether there might be 1500 characters of original prose left over, I have major concerns regarding copyvio/plagiarism even beyond the proper quoting and attribution. Thanks.

PS: Lihaas has responded to you in Template:Did you know nominations/2012 SCO summit. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:34, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Hm, NASA copies must be a new trend, there was (a less problematic) one just last week: Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Lunar_Sample_Laboratory_Facility. Anyways, don't think this one ought to pass unless some significant expansion and attribution happens, as there's also wiki-copied material in there. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:19, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

On close paraphrasing

Hi Nikkimaria, I've opened a discussion at this thread that you may wish to comment at (and so might all those who watch your talk page). It's likely at some point that I will specifically quote your wording of "Yep - this case does not constitute a copyright violation. However, it is also not well paraphrased" (00:58 18 May) as an example of views on paraphrasing, plagiarism, copyvio, that whole messy area. I have no problem with the concerns you initially raised with that article (and as I note in my comment, with higher standards for any "featured" en:wiki venue or award) - just interested in your views on what lines should be drawn, who should draw them, the whole what is our true purpose thing. ;) Thanks & regards! Franamax (talk) 03:53, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Summer Salutations from Clemson

HI Nikki

Welcome to DC!! And thanks for helping my students with their Misplaced Pages projects this summer. They are all going to introduce themselves today.

Pfancher (talk) 12:25, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Jambo! My name is Benjamin Glover and I'm sure it will be a pleasure working with you. Thank you. Benjios (talk) 13:47, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

My name is Brian Del Greco, also a Clemson student. I look forward to working with you! Thanks. Delgreco15 (talk) 16:26, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello my name is Patricia Fedele and a rising senior at Clemson University. Can't wait to work with you on this project! Laxfangirl (talk) 20:44, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello! My name is Jacob Whitworth and I am a Sophomore at Clemson University. I cannot wait to get started working with you as well! JacobWhitworth (talk) 19:29, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello my name is Neil Parchuri. I am a rising sophomore. I am a frequent Misplaced Pages user and very excited to work on this project with you! User051828339 (talk) 00:38, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi my name is Wilder Allen. I will be a sophomore at Clemson. I am looking forward to working with you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wilderallen420 (talk • contribs) 02:45, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello, my name is Greg Outlaw. I'm a rising sophomore at Clemson University. I'm looking forward to working with you on this project. Goutlaw (talk) 03:25, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Mar Revolution FAC

Some days ago you made an image review at Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/May Revolution/archive5. I think your concerns have been filled. Can you check it back? Cambalachero (talk) 00:16, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Bundling citations

With regards to you observation at Misplaced Pages talk:Citing sources#Bundling citations please see Misplaced Pages talk:Good article criteria#Footnote ordering --PBS (talk) 07:53, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikimania

If I somehow don't run into you today ... I'll be in the hall after the last sessions are over, a little after 4:30, to round people up for a Milhist dinner, hope you can make it. - Dank (push to talk) 12:30, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

I'll come say hi, but I'm already committed to the Education dinner, unfortunately. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:36, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Article Feedback on Golden-crowned Sparrow

Hi Nikki, why did you feature this feedback? Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 13:31, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Because I was in the Wikimania presentation about it and was testing the feature. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:43, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for un-featuring it, in completely good faith I would suggest that you have a look at WP:AFT5/G/M. Kindest regards, Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 14:01, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Yep. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:10, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Mina Salman

You noted some close paraphrasing and fact issues with this. There have been some edits since, one from the original author and a couple of others, and I've done a bit of work on another paraphrasing segment. Can you please recheck to see whether it's okay to approve, and give it the appropriate icon whether approved or not? Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:23, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Awake FAC

I was wondering where the double periods are on Awake (TV series). Other comments have been left on the FAC page. Thanks for you comments! TBrandley 03:59, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Awake FA

On the FAC page for Awake (TV series), I have removed one of the two Science Fiction sources; I kept one as it is an interview, and I can't find any replacement source for that other one, which is in the "Casting" section. Have also removed the Cinema Blend per the FAC, it isn't really a good source, doesn't really seem like it. Per the FAC, I have not removed the TV Fanatic review/source; as in the FAC, "Although I agree with TBrandley that TV Fanatic is a reliable source, based on its website", that's mainly why. I have decied to remove the Zap2it source; I replaced it with a source from TV by the Numbers, which is actually owned by Zap2it. Also, I didn't removed the Voice of TV source; I believe is should be fine, and can't be replacement from what I find anyway. If there are any concerns that haven't been done probably, or are outstanding enough to not promote for FA, please let me know. Thanks for your time! TBrandley 04:19, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello

Its me. Zell Faze (talk) 04:52, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello! Nikkimaria (talk) 04:56, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Dorset

Hello Nikkimaria, A few days ago you left some comments on the Dorset article here, to which I replied. Were you intending to undertake a full review of the article or were you merely making some helpful suggestions? There has been a disappointing amount of interest and I am wondering whether it may have been passed over because it appears you have started. I understand if you don't wish to continue with the review and thank you for your remarks you have made but do you have any ideas how we might start the ball rolling again? I have left a message at WT:UKGEO. Best regards--Ykraps (talk) 08:41, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ykraps, for most articles I provide source and image reviews rather than full supports/opposes - source and image checks are required for promotion, even if they don't look quite as encouraging as supports ;-). You might post a message at the general UK wikiproject, or perhaps look for editors who work in that topic area (so long as you're careful to avoid canvassing). Nikkimaria (talk) 19:51, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying your role and the advice. Things seem to be moving now.--Ykraps (talk) 06:23, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Goéry Delacôte

Can you do a quick follow up with Template:Did you know nominations/Goéry Delacôte? Thanks. :) --LauraHale (talk) 02:52, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

about your editing on Teun Voeten wiki page

hello, i was editing Teun Voeten wiki page and i have seen on the page history that you add the copypste note on the article. i don't think that anything important has been copypaste, but what do you think i hall do to solve this problem? which part exactly do you think have to be change? Ransfortstraat (talk) 10:22, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ransfortstraat. What you should do is compare the article to the website and remove or rephrase anything where the wording or structure is quite close. As a quick example, compare "he grew more interested in photography and learned the profession by working as a photo-assistant, both in Holland and in New York" in the article with "he grew interested in photography and learned the profession by working as a photo-assistant, both in Holland and in New York" - you see how these are almost identical? We can't do that. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:12, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Nikkimaria, just wanted to drop by and say it was great meeting you in D.C. (I was the weird staffer who fan-girled out while you were talking to Megan), and I'm sad that I didn't get to corner you for longer and pester you with questions :) I really appreciate all the work you're doing on DYK/FA reviews. You may or may not be aware of this, but, from the perspective of a reviewee, it can feel pretty terrifying to see your name come up on a watchlist, which I imagine is where all the memes about evil reviewers who only care about emdashes come from. But I do understand that despite all our talk of being nice to and encouraging newbies, at the end of the day somebody has to make sure our best material is actually good, and I really am glad you're doing that. I hope I'll get another chance to talk to you soon. Till then, catch you on the wikis (where I will inevitably misuse an emdash, sigh). Cheers, Accedie 23:19, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Hey Accedie, thanks, and see you around! Nikkimaria (talk) 05:00, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Bosom Friends affair

On 18 July 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bosom Friends affair, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Bosom Friends affair, like the Tinky-Winky controversy, concerned the alleged homosexuality of a children's character? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bosom Friends affair. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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William Lax

I have cleaned up the references on William Lax. Tell me what you think, as it is still under FA review here Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/William Lax/archive1. Farrtj (talk) 07:53, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Pavle Đurišić peer review

Thanks very much NikkiMaria! It's great to have fresh eyes on it. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (talk) 22:28, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

QI articles

The QI articles were tagged, yes, but that does not mandate the removal of content. Your edits were undone to return to the status quo and then to enable discussion. Many people have put a lot of work into those articles so I kindly ask that you revert yourself (the good faith thing to do) and begin discussions. Please think about the work that has gone into these articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.166.142 (talk) 13:16, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

No, seeing as they were tagged for over a year without any clear move to address the problem, removing the problematic content was entirely appropriate. I appreciate that time has gone into those articles, but that time was unfortunately misdirected: adding huge amounts of in-show detail to articles of this type (especially with only primary sources) is simply not what we should be doing - instead of such details, we should be looking for information abotu reception and/or impact in the "real world", per WP:WHIM. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:22, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

There are a lot of people that have been involved in these articles and they are a summary of the content of the episodes just the same as plot details of many other popular series. Though you do have some scope for discussion of scaling it back I'm afraid that you've fallen foul of WP:BRD/WP:1RR. Reverting yourself is the appropriate thing to do and then get other people to discuss the matter. 86.143.166.142 (talk) 15:39, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

No series should have over a hundred kilobytes of summary. Is there a centralized place we can discuss this other than my talk page? I agree that we should get the input of other contributors, though I think it's better to leave the condensed version for now as it offers more scope for the addition of non-summary, secondary-source material. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:01, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

The main QI article talk page might be sensible. I disagree with your idea of leaving in your preferred version during a dispute - protocol is to return to the status quo especially when it had been in place for such an extended period of time and has been edited by a wide range of contributors. 86.143.166.142 (talk) 18:48, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

I was thinking more along the lines of a project page - the main QI page has a bit too much detail for my taste, but certainly doesn't need a major trim like the subpages had. If by "protocol" you mean BRD, that's an essay, and WP:NOT trumps it pending discussion. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:03, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Clemson

Hello

I am very new to Misplaced Pages and have just added to an already existing page - my school - Clemson University. I would appreciate any feedback that you could offer me to make a better article and suggest any more subheadings that i should add to my existing headings. I would also like to verify that my citations are correct. Look forward to hearing from you!

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Laxfangirl/sandbox&action=edit&preload=Template%3AUser_sandbox%2Fpreload&editintro=Template%3AUser_sandbox

Tricia Fedele 7/22/12 Laxfangirl (talk) 19:22, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Clemson Student, Wiki Article review

Hi Nikkimaria, I am hoping to add information to the wiki article on Olympic Weightlifting. This is my first time editing on wikipedia and any insight or information you can shed would be very appreciated.

First: I have repeat sources cited, should they all have the same #? Meaning did I add them incorrectly? Instead of treating each repeat citation as a new source should I have, instead, copied and pasted the previous source?

Secondly,I followed the heading/ sub-heading rule of additional = signs for each subsequent heading but when I preview the page things look kind of funky. Funky here being operationally defined as weird or incorrect. What have I done wrong?

Below is a link to my sandbox.

Thank you very much for your time and help!

Brian D.

http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Delgreco15User:Delgreco15 Delgreco15 (talk) 20:32, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

KMFDM FAC

Hi there. Thanks so much for taking the time to go over the referencing for KMFDM. I think I've fixed or responded to everything you brought up in your comments, and I'd appreciate it if you could take another look when you get a chance. Thanks. —Torchiest _edits 23:27, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

I made more corrections per your second set of comments, but I also had some questions about a couple of things you listed on the discussion page. —Torchiest _edits 19:08, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I responded to your last set of issues on this, and also started a discussion about the publisher formatting here. Do the responses given sound like a reasonable explanation for allowing some publisher entries to have parentheses while others don't? —Torchiest _edits 20:42, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Not quite. I know that website publishers aren't in parentheses while print journals/newspapers are. What I'm still wondering about is how you're determining which refs use which template - I'm not sure I understand your explanation, and I'm still confused about why what I see as "like" sources are formatted differently. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:18, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I see there was still some significant jumbling in the formatting. I made another (hopefully complete) pass through all the cite templates, and normalized and matched them all up. Anything that is a daily publication is using "news", anything that is weekly or monthly is using "journal", and anything that is web-only as far as I know is using "web". Do you think using "web" for billboard.com chart information and "journal" for the actual printed form is okay, or should I just set all of those to "journal"? —Torchiest _edits 15:52, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

No, you should keep the charts as "web", but for the "journal" ones do you have page numbers? Nikkimaria (talk) 16:02, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I added the details to the two that were missing them. —Torchiest _edits 16:13, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I checked every cite news and cite journal template in the article, and added page numbers to as many as possible. I've also combined duplicate refs and separated tangled refs. Is there anything else I missed? Thanks. —Torchiest _edits 18:56, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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		Thanks for putting KMFDM through the wringer! I feel like my citation skills have reached a whole new level in the last week. —Torchiest edits 14:46, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Clemson Sudent Article Review

Hello Nikkimaria, I started a new article on editor and publisher Mark Alexander of the Patriot Post. I'm new to editing Misplaced Pages so any feedback you could give to help improve the article would be very appreciated. Specifically I am worried that I've done my citations wrong; I cited two sources from the same website but from different parts of it. I'm leaving a link to my sandbox below. Thank you for your time.

Goutlaw (talk) 00:46, 23 July 2012 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Goutlaw/sandbox

Your comments at RfA

When did anything worth spit ever emerge from a discussion at WT:RFA? I fully support what Nikkimaria is doing by reminding "voters" that the same conventions apply to supporters and opposers; discussing it endlessly at WT:RFA will achieve nothing. . Malleus Fatuorum 22:54, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK stuff

Nikkimaria, Muboshgu invoked your name in Template:Did you know nominations/Frank Chee Willeto. Did you want to see whether you agree or not?

Also, Lihaas has updated Template:Did you know nominations/2012 SCO summit; has this addressed your most recent paraphrasing concerns?

Finally, the reviewer's comments on Template:Did you know nominations/Guinness Foreign Extra Stout make me wonder whether copyvio issues were truly considered with the statement made regarding PR Newswire, and duplication detector leads me to believe it wasn't. Can you please take a look to determine just how bad this is? BlueMoonset (talk) 03:37, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Good catch on the Guinness, that needs quite a bit of work. As to Willeto...yes, I saw that comment earlier, but I don't think there's anything I need to say on that nom. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:36, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the news on the Willeto: I'll try to pick it up soon, but had been hesitating because of Muboshgu's comment. I'm sorry to hear about the Guinness, but glad that it's been caught in time; I appreciate you taking care of it. Non-bios are going to be in demand with the virtually all-bio Olympics hooks about to flood, and that one was bound to be picked up in short order with its tick. Now a premature promotion won't be a problem. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:45, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Couldn't fit Willeto into today's prep set, but I'm hoping to tomorrow. In the meantime, could you take a look at the June 9 Concussions article, which you found problems with? It looks to me as if only minor editing was done, but you'll know whether it was enough. I'm also wondering about the June 6 Goéry Delacôte article, which is asking for guidance on your most recent identification of further problems. As I just discovered some dismaying excessively close paraphrasing on another article by the same author, July 12's Kee Klamp, I'm not sanguine about the June 6 one getting fixed without it. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:49, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Answered and reviewed SCO summitLihaas (talk) 23:34, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Lengberg Castle

On 24 July 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lengberg Castle, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Lengberg Castle has a vault which contained 600-year-old brassieres described as a "'missing link' in the history of women's underwear"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lengberg Castle. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 08:02, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Neat new article!PumpkinSky talk 10:16, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

My apologies.

I truly did not mean any disrespect in my phrasing, and wanted to come formally apologize to you. I have done some editing over the past years, in only select areas, but I've done it anonymously, with I believe a real account mixed in. I made this, my newest account, because I don't particularly like signing discussion comments with just an IP address. I did not mean any backhanded meaning in my words, it's just the way I'm accustomed to phrasing when trying to be polite. Hoping to clear the air, VK. VekuKaiba (talk) 10:22, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Hey VK, no worries. For clarity, are you the IP that started the discussion? Nikkimaria (talk) 14:25, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

'Twas not I, I'm afraid. VekuKaiba (talk) 17:25, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:38, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

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You Are My Sunshine

Please note that your recent edit to this page removed a maintenance template. As no edit summary was provided and the issue the template called to attention was not addressed, I have reinserted it. If you feel the template should not be in place, please discuss at the article's Talk page. Thank you. Doniago (talk) 12:52, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Okay, apparently using the template didn't register...please stop removing the template unless you're willing to remove all of the items listed that are missing any citations establishing significance. I've reinserted the material but will be happy to remove it if no cites are provided for another couple of months; the items were only tagged in May, so this doesn't seem unreasonable to me. You're welcome to discuss it at the article's Talk page if you'd like. Thank you. Doniago (talk) 15:31, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

No, sorry, that isn't how this works. We don't need to remove everything lacking a citation, unless it's controversial. I'm not sure why you're reverting my attempts to deal with it, but I've switched to a referencing tag for now. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:35, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

The current version looks acceptable to me. In every discussion of IPC sections I've been in the consensus was that they should either be sourced to establish significance or removed. Consequently I tagged for IPC (think I updated an existing tag actually) with an intent to remove if the situation wasn't resolved. I reverted your changes because you were removing one problematic item while leaving several others in without comment. You shouldn't remove maintenance templates without an edit summary in any case. But, as I said, I'm okay (not great) with how it is now. Cheers. Doniago (talk) 15:38, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Good thing I didn't remove tags without an editsum, hm? I removed the more trivial while leaving seemingly more viable entries for possible sourcing. Reverting that because you think it's inadequate doesn't really make sense. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:41, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

What didn't appear to make sense to me was removing the maintenance tag and one item from the section while leaving in other problematic material and leaving an edit summary that didn't make your intentions clear to me. But I'm not looking for a confrontation here. Doniago (talk) 15:50, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Neither am I, I was just a little put out by the reversion/template combo. Let's drop it, then. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:27, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I like this plan. Thanks for working through this with me! Doniago (talk) 18:30, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Thanks for catching and replacing the copyrighted diagram uploaded by a student! I was just asking a graphic designer to work on that yesterday when I noticed you had replaced it! Rob SchnautZ (WMF) 15:17, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

This is getting tiresome

MH of C

Would love you to look over the article (your much more aware of our MOS and much much better at spelling etc.. .. I have been using mdy for dates since 2010. As for images the Aboriginal section could use a more warfare type pic over the current one. A few images I would like to see left there if possible - they are unique historic image but copyrighted - the 3 famous pics are File:British Columbia Regiment 1940.jpg (this image most think is American because of how famous it is world wide) - File:Soldier-and-child-octcri.jpg (very unique pic that was seen world wide and was featured in Time life) - File:Oka stare down.jpg (highly publicised image nation wide in virtually every paper of the time). That said they can be replaced if we have no chose as I dont know much about copyright and its usage here on Wiki. PS I uploaded a few of those pics. As for the rest if there are better images yes pls replace.Moxy (talk) 18:08, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

• Nice.... I like this - as it goes well with what we say - By the end of the 17th century, First Nations from the northeastern woodlands, eastern subarctic and the Métis (a people of joint First Nations and European descent) had rapidly adopted the use of firearms, supplanting the traditional bow. Moxy (talk) 16:09, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

KKPsi FAC

I have added the design dates to the files you requested at the Kappa Kappa Psi FAC. I believe that addresses all of the issues you have mentioned in your source review and image review. Sycamore (talk) 23:01, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:20, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Mass removals

You've been removing a chunk of stuff from quite a few pages recently. I look at your contributions history and it's a lot of red. And I must admit that I chuckled when I saw that you removed info from a page which talks about the blanking or removing of stuff.

I already did a partial revert on one. Before I go through and just revert the rest per WP:BRD, I thought I'd come ask for clarification/explanation, if you would. - jc37 04:24, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Are you talking about project pages or articles? I've been working on a few different projects lately, several of which have involved a net removal of bytes, so it would really help me provide a clear explanation if you could be a bit more specific in what you're concerned about. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:30, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Initially project pages. But then when I started looking at your contribution history, I saw red edits everywhere. Maybe I'll just work my way through reverting some to make clearer my concerns. There's a lot of info (and links) removed that I'm not certain I see the purpose of removing. - jc37 16:39, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I've gone through a bunch so far. Apparently you are unaware that Template:Essay already adds a page to the category? Also, there seem to be some essays that you are removing from nearly every page, no vested contributors and you don't own Misplaced Pages in particular.

So far I've tried to only do partial reverts rather than just mass revert all these policy page changes. - jc37 21:59, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, missed that template-cat thing, thanks. It looked like someone had added those two essays across multiple pages, even where they're not particularly relevant (and usually with a comment that highlighted that). Nikkimaria (talk) 22:04, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Captain Kangaroo

If you are removing a maintenance template, please be sure you have resolved the problem or give a reason for the removal in the edit summary. Thank you.

I did, and there's a discussion on talk about it. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:40, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Subscription only references

Hello :-), I was told by a user that I shouldn't add the URL of a subscription only reference because they don't add anything important or verifies the content in which was referenced. Since I am working on getting "I Could Fall in Love" to FAC soon, I was wondering should I refrain from adding URLs of subscription-only references? I only add the URL if the claim can be spotted once the reviewer opens it. Should I still add them anyways? Best, Jona 16:06, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I'd say add them, especially if it's a web-only resource, but prefer things like DOIs where available. Just make sure that you use a "stable" weblink where possible (ie. one that doesn't include your login name and/or institution as part of the URL, isn't time-limited, etc). Nikkimaria (talk) 16:15, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh no I don't have access to the articles archived, I search them on google news like this and then sourced them on the article. But if I still need to provide the URLs I don't mind adding them. Best, Jona 18:24, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

You don't need to, but you can. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:26, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Alright thanks for helping me out! Have a splendiferous day, Jona 18:31, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Paul Fejos

Nikkimaria, is it a concern when an article is paraphrased almost entirely from a single source, using about half of that source's material?

I was worried when the Paul Fejos article, 2901 words, was created from five pages of a modern reference book, and it seemed like it could have been based on nearly all of the entry there. If properly paraphrased, would this much usage be okay? If using half the material, as the article's author says? Or is this not a concern at all, but perfectly okay and not running afoul of fair use or any other copyright issues as long as the paraphrasing is well done. (As it's an offline source, I have no way of checking, but AGF, right?) One sentence comes from another source. Please let me know; I've never run into this before.

Incidentally, as far as I can determine, one person wrote the whole thing, using the Deoliveira account for minor additions plus two IPs, 66.212.78.220 and 206.188.39.191, for the bulk of the writing. I don't believe that's an issue, except that there probably shouldn't be separate DYKmake and DYKnom credits for the nomination. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:07, 27 July 2012 (UTC) (minor edit at 00:09, 27 July 2012 (UTC))

It can be a concern, depending on how similar the two are - assuming the single author wrote the whole book (as opposed to a one-author-per-entry method), it probably would be fair use if well paraphrased. When you get large-scale paraphrases like that, you also have to think about whether the structure of the article is largely identical, or whether the source has an idiosyncratic view of the subject, or whether using one source allows for adherence to the neutrality policy. I don't have access to the book either, but the GBooks snippet isn't reassuring as far as structural/phrasal similarity: compare "according to him his father was a captain with the Hussars and his mother was a Lady-in-waiting for the Austrian-Hungarian Empress, and that as a youth Fejos himself was an official of the Imperial Court" with "have it that his father was a captain with the Hussars, his mother a lady-in-waiting to the Empress, and Fejos himself later an official of the Imperial Court", or "able to get free film stock from the DuPont company, which was then trying to compete with the more established Kodak and Agfa" with "Filmstock was obtained free from DuPont, then attempting to challenge the domination of Kodak and Agfa", or "When sets or actors were unavailable, Fejos had his crew film close-ups of hands, feet, cars or anything else that stuck him as interesting" with "when sets or actors were unavailable, Fejos kept his crew busy shooting closeups of hands, feet, cars, and anything else that took his fancy". Actually, I'd be inclined to fail the nom on paraphrasing regardless of the one-source issue. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:48, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I've blockquoted the entire "compare" section above in the template, and failed it accordingly. I gave you credit for the search as well. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:13, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Dead horses

‎See also: cull. Why? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 00:22, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Large number of See alsos of varying levels of relevance, plus the big "civility essays" template, seemed a bit excessive. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:23, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Uh ha. Thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:24, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Vermont Ski and Snowboard Museum

I'm quite dismayed by what I've found here: it was the hook being virtually identical to the wording on a page at the Museum's website that seemed problematic, but that was the tip of the iceberg: the website's collections page had a huge number of hits from Duplication detector, six of 10 words or more, and then I discovered that the entire Mission section of the article itself comes entirely from that page and the home page. The film page is closely paraphrased in the article's Collections paragraph about that collection... and there's probably more. The picture gallery appears to have been taken by the author, but I couldn't tell whether any of it might be of copyrighted artwork, and therefore problematic. Can I ask you to take matters to the appropriate next step, whether it means removing infringing material or worse? I appreciate it. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:42, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Eek. Newer editor with G12 notice on talk from another article isn't a good start (but on the plus side probably means it's too early for a CCI). Taking a look now. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:59, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. The overnight fixes by another editor don't seem to have helped appreciably (despite said editor's belief that all is now well), so I'm glad to have your sapient eye.

Speaking of said eye, what about Template:Did you know nominations/Quotient filter? It's a scientific article replete with formulae and proofs and definitions of terms, but Duplication detector went nuts when I ran the article against the main paper about the quotient filter here. Can you take a look? I've stopped the odd AGF approval tick; I had been looking at it in the hopes of adding the final hook needed for prep 1, but found quite a can of worms. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:38, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I've cut the offending material out of the ski museum article; it's now just under 1500 characters. I've also tagged a few of the images for evaluation on Commons, and depending on how that works out they may end up being deleted. Will look at the quotient next. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:11, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Quotient also has significant direct copying - I largely agree with your comment on the nom. On these types of articles, though, it's difficult for those without the technical background to do cleanup work; I've tagged it, but am not sure what else I can do beyond straight blanking. Nikkimaria (talk) 19:50, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

The author of quotient filter has gone through and specifically quoted a great deal of material from Bender, and something from one other source. Is this sufficient? Is it within fair use? I'm happy with the quick response from the author, but would appreciate it if you could check to make sure it meets your standards. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:38, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Looking much better, but there's still some non-quoted copied material - for example, the fourth sentence of the lead, or the third sentence of Application. The complete Bender article is roughly 3500 words (counting only the article text plus the abstract); the amount of text that's quoted or that I know should be quoted in the quotient article is about 370 words (which could increase if there's other copying I missed); the full quotient article is about 2200 words. Quotation of more than 10% of the source makes up more than 10% of the article about the same topic (ie. not about the source), making it unlikely that this would be considered justified fair use. IANAL, though, so take that for what it's worth. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:13, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Editing policies and guidelines

Please don't edit these pages lightly. These are based on years of painful fighting, and their editing is not so easy as regular wikipedia articles. While they are not cast in stone, still, it requires a certain effort to convince the community that your changes are with merit. PLease use talk pages to discuss your changes. Please understand that text of a policy requires certain stability, otherwise you will never know tomorrow what rule is in force today. Staszek Lem (talk) 22:05, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Please stop

I understand that you say you're removing links which are also in the navbox. but you're removing quite a few other "see also" links.

Several people have now questioned (or reverted) these removals.

So at this point, I think the "discuss" part of BRD applies concerning removing see also links from project pages. - jc37 22:19, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

So discuss. I'm not removing "quite a few others" - they're either the ones that are already linked elsewhere on the page, or the spammed one. If you have any specific changes you'd like me to explain, point them out and I'd be happy to do so. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:23, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but that's not what I've been seeing. And "spammed" or not, in some cases those essays may apply, so removing them en masse seems a bit reckless. And further you've re targeted several redirects, without checking whatlinkshere. several were in use already.

So I'll reiterate: please stop for now. The world won't end if we have a few extra links on essays until you can find consensus with others for these removals.

In the meantime, I will revert the removals until such time as such consensus is determined, per WP:BOLD/WP:BRD/WP:CON/etc. - jc37 22:34, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm not removing them en masse, I'm removing them where I think they should be removed. You appear to be re-adding them en masse, though, which is hardly appropriate. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:38, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

A.) No I wasn't, as I noted above, I was trying to only do partial reverts, leaving many of your edits in place. If I had been reverting them en masse, I could easily have done so in a matter of minutes. It's taking much longer to go through and read through your edits, trying to retain as much as possible.

B.) regardless, at this point, I'm seeing now more people reverting your removals.

I was and have been attempting to be kind and collegiate about this. but revert/revert/revert again doesn't help anyone. I'd much rather that a consensus is formed. - jc37 22:46, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

But most of your reverts, partial or not, involve re-adding the spammed link. I appreciate your efforts to be kind, but it would be a lot easier to form consensus if you'd explain why you're reverting, rather than just saying "no consensus". Nikkimaria (talk) 22:50, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

FAC: Iraq War in Anbar Province

Can you review my response to your edits and let me know which ones work and which ones need improvement? Palm_Dogg (talk) 21:52, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

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Spire (software)

Although I doubt that this software meets any GNG or other inclusion criteria, would you explain me under which criteria of WP:CSD you did delete it? There is no A7 for software (sadly)... mabdul 10:50, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

My mistake. Would you like it restored? Nikkimaria (talk) 15:44, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

No, just pointing out to be more careful. ;-) mabdul 17:43, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

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FAR

We finally have consensus that a FAR is needed for Barack Obama. SCjessey, who is opposed to FAR, admitted that FAR is needed but disagrees on the timing. It seems that he wants it after the election. The election is months away, certainly enough time if that is the deadline.

I actually think that Misplaced Pages is neutral and does not act as an advertising agency so improvements and FAR should be ASAP, not delayed.

To be neutral, I will let you do all the work to start the FAR. Please and thank you. If I do it, someone may wipe it out just as they did when I tried to help someone who had trouble posting a comment.

To be even more neutral, I will hold off comments about how to improve the article either forever or for a while. That way, it doesn't benefit me to have a FAR since I will not be initially adding any comments (unless you want me to).

Thanks for starting the FAR. Misplaced Pages needs to be improved, not stagnated.

That article is far different from 3 years ago and the FA standards are, according to some, far different than 3 years ago.

I fully agree with President Obama's slogan....it is fitting for you to act...it is Forward.

Evergreenme (talk) 01:01, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Again, there is consensus to have a FAR. Some want it delayed but everyone agrees that it is needed. Therefore, the compromise is to do what we agree, which is FAR. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evergreenme (talk • contribs) 01:03, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi Evergreenme, I see Dana has already weighed in at the talk page, so I would suggest you listen to her advice. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:22, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

DiscoverGibraltar.org

Hi - just to save all this from the nom page. Jim Crone (web owner) has agreed to make all the gib history stuff on DiscoverGibraltar to be cc by sa. To record this intention he has added a Gibraltarpedia.org note to the main page of the site. Meetings/Work are progressing to do this well. We are even doing a press release as this a substantial contribution by one person to our mission. Not sure whether the casemates article should be held from publication, but there is no plagiarism going on so I removed the template from the article . Victuallers (talk) 09:14, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Reliability of musicOMH

Hello, can you help me to determine if musicOMH is a reliable source to cover music-related articles? Their 'About us' section states: "We're always looking for enthusiastic music, film, opera and theatre fans who would like to write - regardless of age or location", the latter statement makes it sound somewhat unreliable. Till I Go Home 13:51, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

You're right - I would say it's only reliable when the author of the specific article you're citing is an expert in the field. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:13, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Self-published source that is reliable

Hi there. You recently questioned the use of this book as a source because it is self-published. At the time, I just removed it, but I recently read some stuff about the author, Piero Scaruffi, that leads me to believe he could be considered reliable, in particular, this New York Times article. Would you say that he could be considered an expert, and thus reliable on the subject of music commentary based on that? Thanks. —Torchiest _edits 15:58, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

"a freelance software consultant and occasional university lecturer"? Not sure I'd call him an "expert", though he does have some subject recognition. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:05, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Gibraltarpedia DYK

There have been responses to your concerns at this nomination; can you please check to see whether the issues have been solved? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:19, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Main page appearance: Melville Island (Nova Scotia)

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Melville Island is a small peninsula in Nova Scotia, Canada, located in the Northwest Arm of Halifax Harbour, west of Deadman's Island. It is part of the Halifax Regional Municipality. The land is rocky, with thin, acidic soil, but supports a limited woodland habitat. The site was discovered by Europeans in the 1600s, though it was likely earlier explored by aboriginals. It was initially used for storehouses before being purchased by the British, who built a prisoner-of-war camp to hold captives from the Napoleonic Wars and later the War of 1812. The burial ground for the prisoners was on the adjacent Deadman's Island. Melville Island was used as a receiving depot for slaves escaping the United States, then as a quarantine hospital for immigrants arriving from Europe (particularly Ireland). It briefly served as a recruitment centre for the British Foreign Legion during the Crimean War and was then sold to the British for use as a military prison. The land was granted to the Canadian government in 1907, which used it to detain German and Austro-Hungarian nationals during the First World War. During the Second World War, prisoners were sent to McNabs Island instead, and ammunition depots were kept on Melville Island. The peninsula now houses the clubhouse and marina of the Armdale Yacht Club. Melville Island has been the subject of a number of cultural works, most of which concern its use as a prison. (more...)

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