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Back to part-timing, losing the love. But don't forget, I will get to every FLC and I will reply to comments I made on them. No need to hit me with "talkback" templates. If you're feeling particularly WP:BOLD, leave me a message here and update my to-do list!

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Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Somerset County Cricket Club in 2009/archive3

Hey TRM, I was bold and added this to your to-do list already, but I have addressed your points at the FAC (User:Sarastro1's are still outstanding though). Would you be able to revisit it when you can, particularly in relation to the accessibility of the tables. Kind regards, Harrias 23:23, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Have revisited the comments I made, the article is very much improved, thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:58, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

TFL message

I have left a message at Misplaced Pages talk:Today's featured list which I would like for you to respond to in your FL-Director capacity. This is also Sven Manguard 20:32, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Cheers, I've responded. Perhaps you and others could respond in your FL-reviewers capacity to the question over process of TFL selection, which currently isn't addressed at all. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:46, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Northamptonshire County Cricket Club

There's been quite a lot of rather low-level sillinesses going on at this article for a number of days and I'm wondering whether it needs some temporary protection. Perhaps you could take a look. Thanks. Johnlp (talk) 21:13, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Its a single user, so there's no real benefit to protecting. I've warned the IP in question, if it happens again file a report at WP:AIV and they'll be blocked. Oldelpaso (talk) 21:28, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. Johnlp (talk) 21:38, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
I've added it to my watchlist, it looks quiet right now, but if it ramps up again, I'll protect it. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:00, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

FLC question

Could I nominate List of film directors of the Dutch East Indies? The nomination for List of films of the Dutch East Indies has two supports, no opposes, and has been there for 3 weeks. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:41, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

I don't see a major problem with that at all, good luck. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:01, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Invitation

Hi. Would you like to join Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Featured lists? Thanks, TBrandley 02:08, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

I'll take a look, thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:02, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Opinion

Would you mind weighing in your opinion here. —Vensatry (Ping me) 14:47, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:05, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

You do great work

Please don't take the current discussion at TFL as criticism of your work. You do an amazing job. Some great points are being raised and I think your representation of the TFL community is crucial in these discussions. --Another Believer (Talk) 15:47, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes. As the person that started this mess I have to completely echo Another Believer. You do an amazing job. This is also Sven Manguard 18:42, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
Thank you both. I have added what I consider to be an action plan. We've just got to get on with it. I wasn't aware how many people considered TFL to be, well, broken. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:39, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

About deleting the page Kumar Parakala

Hi there, This is regarding the article "Kumar Parakala". The article that was being considered for deletion was the old one and was subsequently deleted as of 23rd May 2011. A new article with the same name was created and was in existence for almost 2 months. I have been in contact with wikipedia through out the process and the article was wriiten in a manner that wiki approves of. Can you please explain why is the article deleted even though there has been no recent talks about deleting the article. PriyankaLewis (talk) 06:38, 26 September 2012 (UTC)Priyanka Lewis

Yes, it was deleted under criterion A8 which allows the deletion of pages which have previously been deleted following an WP:AFD discussion. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:45, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

But the page that was deleted was a previous one and had content without proper citations and references. The present article was not being considered for deletion. The present article was written in a manner which was within wiki parameters. it was not being considered for deletion too. Can you please check it properly once. There seems to be some confusion PriyankaLewis (talk) 06:55, 26 September 2012 (UTC)Priyanka Lewis

I suggest you take the issue to WP:DRV. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:58, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Can you please look at the recent updates from Deletion review WP:DRV. http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2012_September_26 . Does it mean the article will be revived for further editing? PriyankaLewis (talk) 13:05, 26 September 2012 (UTC)Priyanka Lewis

Thanks for the undeletion. It would be really helpful if you can help me make the article better. I don't know if its a valid request but would be really happy if you can give me a few pointers on how to make the article better. Thanks PriyankaLewis (talk) 13:22, 26 September 2012 (UTC)Priyanka Lewis

Szybowcowy Zakład Doświadczalny (note on Jeżów)

Most likely http://pl.wikipedia.org/Je%C5%BC%C3%B3w_Sudecki (there is an en page as well). I hope to write a pl article on the subject (SZD) some time towards December, I will then update the en version (tons of sources in Polish). It is a shame there is no PL article on SZD, but I hope to slowly fix this and other gliding related content in PL. Admiration for your work :-). For a while (10 days) I might be incommunicado. Szafranpl (talk) 11:17, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

OK, positive: " w maju 1945 r. powstał Centralny Harcerski Ośrodek Szybowcowy, który poza lotniskiem Aleksandrowice, objął także Żar, Goleszów i znaczący poniemiecki ośrodek szybowcowy- szkołę i zakład budowy szybowców Grunau (Jeżów Sudecki) k. Jeleniej Góry. Początkowo zajęli się oni zabezpieczeniem poniemieckiego sprzętu, organizacją zniszczonych szybowisk oraz szkoleniem instruktorów. W styczniu 1946 r. Ośrodek przemianowano na Instytut Szybownictwa", source http://www.samolotypolskie.pl/samoloty/2841/126/Szybowcowy-Zaklad-Doswiadczalny-SZD2 The German name of the town is Grunau, no more need to explain Szafranpl (talk) 11:43, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

FLRCClosed

Hiyo. You probably already know, and it's on a list of things to be fixed, but just in case... ;)

The {{FLRCClosed}} template that you added to WP:Featured list removal candidates/List of works of William Gibson/archive1 doesn't exist. I looked around, specifically at the closing instructions, but couldn't see a mention of it anywhere. Possibly Gimmebot simply doesn't care that the template is nonexistent? If so, it might be helpful to make the link blue, for purely human benefit (to stop people like me from trying to diagnose/fix it ;)

HTH. —Quiddity (talk) 18:06, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:19, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

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TFL Changes

Hi TRM,

Thank you for contacting me personally and explaning the TFL changes. This is probably going to be a better way to process the blurbs in the long run, although the change I would most like to see is to have a TFL more than once a week. I've added two blurb suggestions to the new system that had already been established by the old system. Would it be best if I didn't have more than two there at a time? I would be glad to fill up the rest of the slots if that's allowed under the new system.

Neelix (talk) 14:39, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Hey Neelix, we're up to nine already so I guess no. I'm moving away from being involved in the process for a bit, it was a real surprise to me to see a few colleagues really express their disappointment in the way it had gone, particularly since, other than me, only WFC and you had shown any real interest in the way the process was running. I won't be selecting TFLs for a while now and hope that a fresh approach from other people might invigorate the process or encourage more input. Thanks again for all the effort you put into TFL version 1.0, I couldn't have done it without you, and I hope you're as proud as I am of getting decent quality, relevant FLs on the main page. I hope it continues to succeed! The Rambling Man (talk) 20:13, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
TRM, I hope you don't believe that my comments were intended to be critical of the job you have done at TFL. You have done the best job you can with the lists that we have been given to work with, not to mention that you are the main reason TFL got off the ground at all. I hope you will come back to selecting TFLs at some point in the near-future. Giants2008 (Talk) 16:19, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

List of Australian Olympic medalists in swimming

Am I allowed to nominate List of Australian Olympic medalists in swimming again?--Lucky102 (talk) 15:25, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Also, and lists I can nominate for featured, Archbishop of Dublin isn't doing good. --Lucky102 (talk) 15:32, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
You can read instructions about nominating for TFL at the TFL pages. As for the list you've nominated, I haven't had a chance to look at it so will give feedback in due course. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:13, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
For the review Giants did, I understood the last one clearly, but the first 2 I don't understand. Please explain to me what he means and how I improve it.--Lucky102 (talk) 15:19, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
Please answer!--Lucky102 (talk) 20:46, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
Please note, I have other things to do, and will get to your request soon. Thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:23, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

This and...

User talk:S Marshall‎ QED. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:59, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive239. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:36, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

TFL prep renomination list

Hi TRM, I saw the TFL prep page was archived so I wondered if I need to renominate Israel State Cup list in the submissions page or it doesn't needed, as the list will appear in the main page even tho the prep was archived.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 01:26, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Yep, it'll need to be renominated, but no more than ten nominations should exist at once. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:12, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

TFLs

Hi, what happened to those lists who were on the waiting page? will they appear some day on the main page? Zia Khan 20:11, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

They need to be renominated at the submissions page, and note there should be no more than ten lists nominated there at any one time in total. If you have any further queries, please start a discussion at WT:TFL. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:16, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

General thoughts

I've seen you around quite a bit and you seem fairly sensible, you might find my thoughts at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship#Surveyed_comments of passing interest. MBisanz 20:45, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm far from sensible I'm afraid. As the current WP:BN discussion about quick re-sysops is proving. But I'll take a look in any case. Thanks for the invitation. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:49, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Above

Please look at List of Australian Olympic medalists in swimming, above. Thanks.--Lucky102 (talk) 21:21, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

I will. I already said I would. No need to keep pushing it. Thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:22, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
Sorry.--Lucky102 (talk) 20:47, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

New section

Hey TRM, not sure if you are aware of this, but Tbrandley closed this list citing Misplaced Pages:Non-admin closure. The link seems to be about the deletion process, also I'm not sure if this is allowed or not, seems pointless having directors if users take it upon themselves to close noms. Anyway, just thought I'd bring it to your attention, as I'm still inexperienced closing noms. NapHit (talk) 20:33, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

I agree, that shouldn't have happened, particularly if Tbrandley hasn't done all the other bits and pieces (like list it as failed nomination, updated the logs etc). Suggest you nudge him about that and ensure all procedures have been followed correctly so it's all accounted for. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:48, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Rumours

Surely we could have a section, but warn people first that it might not be true? 144.124.24.57 (talk) 19:14, 1 October 2012 (UTC) As evidence; http://simpleandgayforward.wordpress.com/tag/brendan-fraser/ 144.124.24.57 (talk) 19:18, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

No. That would be utterly ridiculous. Would you find a rumours section in Encyclopedia Britannica? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:10, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Well we allow conspiracy theories here, so why not this belief? Let's be honest, Misplaced Pages isn't the best establishment in te world is it? People expect some inaccuracy. 144.124.24.57 (talk) 09:29, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Seriously, read WP:BLP. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:44, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Want to put the section in the article. Makes the text richer than it is at the moment. Rastadon1987 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:13, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Nope. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:08, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

List of programs broadcast by Fox

Hi. Could you reconsider the above FLC list, as consensus has now been reached at the article's talk page. Thank you. TBrandley 23:35, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured list candidates/List of film directors of the Dutch East Indies/archive1

Hi TRM, would you be willing to revisit the nomination page linked above? I have responded to your concerns and hope that they have been alleviated. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:44, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Thansk for getting to User talk:Hardeeptravels.91 before even I could. Bearian (talk) 12:17, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Cheers, not a problem!! The Rambling Man (talk) 12:18, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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Map of top 25 countries in FIFA

Hi. The conversation at WT:FOOTY doesn't seem to be helping currently. I'd be grateful if you'd weigh in with your view. Thanks --Dweller (talk) 08:13, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Have responded there dude... The Rambling Man (talk) 08:28, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. It would be nice to get an outcome. --Dweller (talk) 08:32, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

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Categories in sandbox

Many thanks for taking the time to explain about the removal of categories from my sandbox by user:Alan Liefting. I have contacted him to suggest he should explain why he is doing this in the first instance. It would save time and quite a bit of -ve feelings when people think someone is just blatantly removing text from their sandbox. Once again - Many thanks.__DrChrissy (talk) 16:02, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi

I hate to give other people any sort of advice, but I think your comments on Alan Liefting's talk page are probably not going to convince him soon if they haven't already. It might be worth considering just letting it go for now. I'm an uninvolved admin who separately left a note on his talk page about the "vandalism" thing. If anything else happens, you can always leave a note on my talk page and I will look into it. I don't want to get into a long discussion, I'm just commenting here to try to calm things a little. — Carl (CBM · talk) 19:38, 4 October 2012 (UTC)