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Attack against Mehmed Ali Pasha

The wording I used throughout the article was established during the DYK review, so please don't introduce another wording. After all, it is irrational to introduce a name that wasn't used by the organization (it reminds me of your League of Peja views) in any way and wasn't even common or official in that era. That being said, I did inform you of the review and also per WP:BRD you shouldn't try to introduce that wording again.--— ZjarriRrethues —  21:39, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Unacceptable editing

You have been here long enough top know that this personal attack on a new and inexperienced editor is unacceptable. You also know that removing another editor's talk apge comments, as you did here is unacceptable. You even had the nerve to complain about both personal attacks and removing talk page comments at AIV, when you must have been aware that you had recently done precisely those two thing. Any continuation of such disruptive editing may lead to an immediate block. JamesBWatson (talk) 21:27, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

• Thank you for your message on my talk page about this, in which you make it clear that your edit was not intended as a personal attack, as I thought. I have given a more detailed reply on my talk page. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:58, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Nat. agenda

I need your fine editing here and here. Please, add all of the great neutral things you added in the other article. Some editors will obviously never edit in a normal way, and i cannot stand national vandalism anymore. Just look at this. Is that the most important thing about that subject? I cannot answer to that amount of pov push anymore. --WhiteWriter 00:16, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

The POV from Bobrayner is getting worse and worse. Some months ago I really believed this was a neutral editor. Be that as it may, facts are simple to prove. From FRY period there were separate Serbian-Montenegrin police divisions but a central army. So if citing police it is fine to say Serbian as the so-called 'sources' acknowledge this themselves (eg. they'll say Serbian police/Yugoslav forces on same line). What a crazy thing to argue about, it seems nobody is disputing the content but simply trying to drag one nation's name in the dirt and they will do this at the expense of facts. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 01:02, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes. That was, all this time, as it looks like, his only idea. I thought that i am only one who sees that. --WhiteWriter 10:15, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, the sources seem to be quite definite on term use, however, Evlekis and WW you can report bobrayner to AE if he's so disruptive. Personally, I still don't know why don't want the term "Serb", which is used predominantly by the sources to be used.--— ZjarriRrethues —  19:36, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

I have nothing against Bobnrayner. If you cannot distinguish between accurate and inaccurate sources, then I can't help you I'm afraid. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 20:50, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

WhiteWriter 20:55, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Hehe, i actually never send you an e-mail, so i dont have an address. :) --WhiteWriter 21:30, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation

Hello, Evlekis. Thanks for your report at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Sinbad Barron. I have looked at it, as you requested, and I have blocked the sockpuppet account, and requested a checkuser in case of more sockpuppets. You didn't open the sockpuppet investigation case properly. I have corrected it now, but, in case you ever wish to open a sockpuppet investigation case again, I thought it best to let you know. It is not good enough to just edit the existing SPI page, for various reasons, most importantly because doing so does not list the case at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations, so nobody is likely to know that the case is there, and nobody will deal with it. Since you told me about it, I came and looked at it, but I might not have been available. Also, when I had done that, if I hadn't also realised your mistake and corrected it, then it would now not be listed at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations for a checkuser, so no checkuser would deal with it. For future reference, the way to open an SPI case is to go to Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations, scroll down the section headed "To open a case:" and follow the instructions. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:17, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Persecution of Serbs and other non-Albanians in Kosovo

Hello Evlekis. First I want to tell you that I have a lot of respect from you and I very appreciate your work on Misplaced Pages etc. I understand what you want to say to me and I am usually agree with your proposal, better, I must be agree with you, although i am not really happy with this bro. I thought, better I think, if we do not mentioned all this events, all the pressure on the Serbs etc. who happened continously especially since 1999, I things it could not be really represent the situation if we delete some or such things. This what happen there is unique in Europe, an this in modern times. Organized attacks on children, destroyed graves, pressure in all systems in day life, drive-by-shooting, car bombs, destroyed churches, rocket attacks, etc. I thing to delete all this is not really OK, and I see in other examples that such things are mentioned on Misplaced Pages. Why is not allow to mentioned this there on WP? This things happen and is a slowly progrom. There are probably more than 1,000 victims of such systematic persecution since 1999, also daily assaults or repression on different ways. A lot of things who are not mentioned on this page, and who I should to know if is in your opinion right or wrong? I still do not understand how the text would have to be written about the returnees who wher murdered. The goverment condemned it sharply, the International media have written about this etc. and this not because it was a normal murder with criminal backgrounds. Yes its true, that over the years it has become like a shopping list with new cases added every time it is reported that a non-Albanian has been a victim of crime, but we must be honest, this things happen there, an this within Europe, and you and i know that this not happen because of crime reason. This all ar enot normal or usually criminal events. I know that in the real world there is a criminal fraternity everywhere among every ethnicity and horrible things happen, thats true and sad. I know also that all have two sides or even more, and this page showed only the other side of the war ect. I think Non-Albanians have also the right for a voice and opinion like the Albanians. So, what should we do?Thank you--Nado158 (talk) 18:51, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Mhhh, It makes sense to me Evlekis.--Nado158 (talk) 19:30, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

I restored the discussion of your proposal to the main AfD page as I believe it forms part of the discussion and should be obvious to the closing admin rather than having no mention of it on the main page and them having to stumble across it. There is no way for them to know it is there, I also object to having my comments refactored or moved without my agreement. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 07:03, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

I believed I was doing the correct thing in moving it to talk. If you think it is better on the main page then fine. Regarding your contributions, I don't cater for single individuals and if I consider it appropriate to make bold moves then I refuse to leave bits of it behind to suit the odd person. So, concerning your objections with me, I suggest you take the matter to admins. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 09:20, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

There's a new user who devastated the page and the work of all users.--Nado158 (talk) 11:13, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Mark my words Nado, that's not a new user, it's somebody's friend among the denialists. Think about it, if you want an article deleted it cannot be because you think a small part of it really belongs on the page otherwise you contradict your own viewpoint. So what is the best option? Trim away slice by slice and provide a summary why this is no good, that is no good. What are you left with? An empty article! What does that mean? It should be deleted! And of course, you would never do this from your own precious account would you! So you either log in as someone else or you actually deploy another person to do the dirty deed. You should have cancelled his contributions in one fell swoop. Not to worry, I can't see that account lasting long. It has been taken to AN/I by one of his own kith and kin. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 14:17, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

You are right. Thank you very much!--Nado158 (talk) 16:48, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

I can not understand why you removed the part about Vetëvendosje!??? Of course they are against Serbs ect., and because of this you removed? I can understand? Besides this, not every demonstrant was also a member of them.--Nado158 (talk) 17:16, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Because I never looked at the source I took it that this was Vetëvendosje! and ethnic Serbs. Generally these are Albanians that feel discriminated by the Kosovan regime. If you replace it, I don't mind. Sorry to have acted boldly. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 23:39, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Should I now reset this after your opinion? I think that it might be important? Thank you--Nado158 (talk) 09:38, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Of course, I don't object. Sorry I'd forgotten, I thought you already replaced it. Thanks Nado. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 19:12, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you!--Nado158 (talk) 20:39, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Evlekis. I know about this incident. I've thought about this incident and I think it should be added because this event has occured. I am very sure that I can finde good sources among them from Germany, Austria and Switzerland. I may do well to remember that I have read it in German, and it was described similar. What sources should I try to get in your opinion? or describe what exactly? I'm sure there are enough sources describe enough. I can look and see what we can use it? What do you say? If you agree? Besides this, I have to tell you that unfortunately I will likely be blocked . I can not understand, but there it is. Until then, i will worke in frame of wikipedia rules. Thanks!--Nado158 (talk) 21:28, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

I'll need time to check that. The source has a date of publication but none for incidents. The other thing is that it lists more than one case. I'll get onto it as soon as I can. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 22:00, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

I am been suspended for one year. I would like to continue working with you, but I can not more.You are doing a very good job, go on with this. If I can help you with something, you can ever write me. Thank you for all. My respect and best wishes to you and yuur family.--Nado158 (talk) 20:46, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Edits at Arbitration Enforcement

Please remember that the result section is for administrators only (as the notice This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the section above. notes at the beginning of the section) and that you need to post comments to "Comments by others about the request concerning Nado158". I have moved your comment to the appropriate section. Thank you, -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 23:14, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

DQ I thank you for the information and apologise for the error. Apart from not being wholly familiar with that project page and its directives, the section has become very long and it is painful for the eyes to have to read the entire novel from preface to appendix. I will know for next time, regards. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 23:19, 21 February 2013 (UTC)