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Apology, explanation of non-malicious intent, and description of resolve not to repeat offenses
I did have two accounts. I had set up one, then later, another with a name I preferred, but with no malicious intentions.
The purpose was not ever that one account would manufacture support for the other. I was not doing it to provide support for one account under another account name. The posting on the talk page using the other user name was by accident (as you can see by the use of first person pronouns in that comment) My purposes were not any of the ones listed as "innappropriate uses of alternative accounts." The appearance of such a misuse was an accident, where I believed I was writing under the appropriate account, but was accidently signed in under the other. My wish to maintain honesty was shown by the fact that after I realised I was signed in on the otehr account, I exited and signed in under the other to sign the post with the actual more honest name.
The whole thing was a mistake, but I truly did not do it with bad intentions.
It should have been obvious that if I created a second account this could easily happen. I should have thought it through.
I offer sincere apologies and emphasize that I will not repeat anything like this in the future.
I do wish to add that the edits about the American Psychological Association, and the UK Royal College were in order to correct the factual innaccuracy that was and is present on those pages. If you would folllow the links I had read, and read the actual statements by those two organizations, you would see that is the case. This is not ideology, this is about the accurate description of what those two associations actually said. The APA said that there are so many different experiences, that a global statement may be misleading. http://www.apa.org/pi/women/programs/abortion/mental-health.pdf The Royal College explicitly said that the data is inconclusive. http://www.nccmh.org.uk/publications_SR_abortion_in_MH.html The current paragraphs on Wilkipedia are innaccurate. I trust, that you are a person of integrity who will take the time to go to the actual statements and reports by those two organizations and see that is the case. I hope that someone other than me will edit the page for greater acuracy.
Rivka3 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:59, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Look, you socked, then you lied about it. I sincerely do hope you don't do it again; but if you do someone is likely to block not only this account but all your accounts. Have one account and be done. And don't lie; next time there is a question people will be far less likely to believe you. Puppy has spoken. KillerChihuahua20:56, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
BlackHades managed to find an old failed proposal that said accusations of meatpuppetry should be made at SPI, but then devoted the whole thing to me. Now rev/del'd by another Admin. Dougweller (talk) 11:16, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Why on earth did they rev/del??? Also, pity I missed this. This is what happens when I take the weekend off, darnit. I miss the really weird and fun stuff. KillerChihuahua00:34, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi, could you help investigate a potential behavioral issue?
Hi, Killer. I have been accused of tendentious editing at Tea Party Movement. I was wondering if you would mind taking a look at my edits and telling me if I am in violation of Misplaced Pages behavioral policies. Thanks. — goethean21:53, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
What a mess! Of course, the TPM article is a contentious article, and although I have considerable experience on contentious articles I don't think I have ever edited the TPM one. To which I'm inclined at this moment to add, Thank Goodness. It appears to me the charges against you spring more from the frustration the other editor feels over a content dispute than from any actual tendentious edits on your part. IMO, it is best for you to ignore the allegations and proceed with trying to discuss content. Then again, I'm the last person to block anyone for incivility and I rarely even bother if it is serious personal attacks; if the attacks are against me I don't recall ever blocking, or reporting. I find confronting this kind of hostility is difficult to do without escalating the situation. If the situation deteriorates, you may wish to ask another uninvolved admin for a second opinion. As a side note, I noticed a key bit of the content debate was whether to utilize content about something which did not mention the TPM. If a source can be found which ties the event to the TPM, it can be used in the article. Otherwise, it is OR and/or SYNTH to so use it, however "obvious" it may be to the editors of the article.
You may wish to try a one line statement such as "I reject your allegations, and prefer to keep the topic here on content." and then be done, no matter how much more is said. If you wish, I will attempt a discussion with the other party regarding this. Let me know. KillerChihuahua16:07, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Well, I tried, but it seems that although he has no compunction about posting paragraphs of vague accusations, including three posts to write and copyedit his reply to me, he can't be arsed to post even one diff, so I advised him to cease with the unsupported accusations. Let me (or another uninvolved admin) know if he starts it up again. KillerChihuahua20:38, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Notifications That You've Received a Message, if Not Written on *Your* Talk Page
Hey, you "angry barking puppy,"
You recently put a notice on my talk page. I wanted to ask you here why it supposedly had to be you posting that, instead of just the supposed admin. who had already been talking to me. When and why did it supposedly become "your business"?
(But the one thing I'm grateful for about that is that the warning was present, rather than just taking action without one. So for that one thing, thanks.)
But then I saw that you wanted us to post replies to the place where the original message was posted. Well, obviously you get a notification that someone has put a message on your talk page, and I get a notification that someone has put one on my page. But how would you get a notification that someone has responded to something you wrote on my page? You wouldn't just keep checking it and checking it every day for a long time, even if some time went without seeing a response there, would you? So that's my concern about keeping the messages lined up on the same page. Yes, it's definitely easier to follow. But the notification system isn't very good. Right? What's your remedy for that, and how do I get it too?
"Meatpuppet" thing. Does this mean we can now refer to you as "Mrs. Weller"? baahaahaa. <Newspaper across the rump, and puppy-Ched yelps and looks for a table to hide under> — Ched : ? 14:07, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Wow, you just insulted me, my r/l husband, Doug, and hen-pecked husbands everywhere. Oh wait... do you speak from experience? There, there.... just because you're whipped doesn't mean you aren't valued. KillerChihuahua14:11, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
;-D ... Wait. You're r/l husband's name is Doug too? OH MY - I do so love irony in life. Actually I did marry very young, but divorced in the late 70s. I've come close to a second try a couple times over the years, but it just never seemed work out. I would like the chance to be a hen-pecked good husband again, but with each passing year I figure it's less likely to happen. Personally I very much admire a strong and intelligent woman (must also have a great sense of humor; given my twisted way of thinking), so being "whipped" wouldn't really be a problem. (I have selective hearing issues anyway .. lol) Anyway - please convey to Mr. Chihuahua that I meant no offense. Have a good one KC. Cheers and "woof" — Ched : ? 14:47, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
No, you turkey, you insulted my r/l husband and Doug, not my r/l husband Doug. :-P Sorry your attempt to become hen-pecked didn't work out for you. :-( Mr.Chihuahua doesn't do Misplaced Pages, so he'll never even know you insulted him AND called him "Doug". So all is well. KillerChihuahua15:17, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
I did a double-take on "your husband Doug" as well...which was especially puzzling, since I know someone who claims to be your r/l husband, and his name's not Doug :) Guettarda (talk) 15:49, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi, the close clearly states "article edits" i.e. talk pages are OK. If they become disruptive then we can re-raise at ANI and look to spread the topic ban further. Regards, GiantSnowman20:37, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Dear Killer, please wait. Please see also my opinion (and please read my all my comments above and check it). I think that I not deserve such hard punishment. Regards--Nado158 (talk) 14:30, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
I've read all your comments.
You should keep your discussion about this on WP:AE and not here.
This isn't about "punishing" you; it is about protecting the encyclopedia.
The parameters are already set by ARBMAC; The disputes presented in this case, while focusing specifically on issues related to Macedonia, are part of a broader set of conflicts prevalent over the entire range of articles concerning the Balkans; see, for example, the Dalmatia case and the Kosovo case. Many of these conflicts are grounded in matters external to Misplaced Pages, including long-standing historical, national, and ethnic disputes in the region. The area of conflict in this case shall therefore be considered to be the entire set of Balkan-related articles, broadly interpreted. - Kosovo includes The locus of the dispute is Kosovo and closely related articles, chiefly regarding the characterization of its constitutional status and relationship to Serbia. - and it is, as you can see, very broad. We can probably specify when we close, I usually do, but then I'm not sure I'll be the one who closes. KillerChihuahua15:46, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
OK, if you mean the entire topic area, that's fine. DeltaQuad mentioned just one particular part, and when you replied to them, you didn't discuss that bit. --Joy (talk) 17:20, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
We generally tack on the words "broadly construed" when topic banning, and we construe fairly broadly. Back in Oct 2011 I advised an editor who asked for clarification on a Troubles topic ban "You joked about bird articles in the AE case; I tell you now, if you change a category on a bird article from Birds of England to Birds of Ireland, I'm not at all sure it wouldn't be covered. You need to edit something that has nothing to do with Ireland or the Troubles in any conceivable way." You can also read archives of AE to see how it is applied. KillerChihuahua18:00, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Hmm. Does this wording then mean they're prevented from writing about e.g. Serbian football clubs? That would seem excessive. IOW we've gone from too narrow to too broad. --Joy (talk) 22:45, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Yes, it does. They cannot write about anything Serbian, whether football clubs or terrorists or history or anything else. That is what a broadly construed topic ban is. They are free to write about other things. Very little of Misplaced Pages is Serbian and Kosovo related. Hit "random article" a few dozen times, and I'll be surprised if you hit a single article which is covered under the topic ban. KillerChihuahua22:58, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
I know that we have the ArbCom rulings to cover it, but the point I was trying to make is that including the whole topic area seems excessive for one article in the topic area when there are articles in that area that the user can contribute to properly. I was looking for something a little smaller than all of Serbia topic ban, because I didn't see enough to feel that the whole topic area ban was justified. -- DQ(ʞlɐʇ)02:13, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
I disagree, obviously. Here is the issue (and I speak as someone who has been at AE quite a bit): If we do not outline a broadly construed topic area, then the editors often skirt the fringes, still repeating the behavior which led to the topic ban. Let's look at sports, for example. How easy would it be to slip in an ethnic slur, or bias, such as we saw in the AE evidence? No, we make it broad for a very good reason. This is standard practice. If he does well and learns to keep his personal bias out of articles, and not misuse sources, he'll come back to editing this topic area with the knowledge he needs to avoid further sanctions. This generally does not happen in topic areas which the editor has shown he has very strong personal views about, which he has not kept out of his editing. He can learn this in topic areas which have nothing to do with the problem topic area much better. If he merely chooses articles from Category:Articles needing cleanup, he can edit ten hours a day and still have work to do before the year is out. He can edit. But in my experience, allowing leeway leads to troubles. I prefer to avoid that. KillerChihuahua20:46, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
I do want to thank you for your response. I do understand as you have explained that if we don't make it broad, its a game of cat and mouse on enforcement. While I may not completely agree with your decision, I do mostly agree with it, and after that point, I still respect it. -- DQ(ʞlɐʇ)08:19, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
I'm glad you get that. Not just a game of cat and mouse for us, but sometimes seems like a game of entrapment to them. And thank you. KillerChihuahua10:57, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Not Serbian/Albanian/Kosovo, no. You can edit other sports articles, but not if any of the players are from the restricted topic area, and not if the article touches on the topic area in any way. KillerChihuahua20:46, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Please, i wrote about 98% Serbian sport, especially about football, but also basketball etc., I never had a problem with nobody. I improved a lot of articles, wrote about players and stadiums etc. I create also a lot of articles about sport. I get even a barn star. You can all see this on my Misplaced Pages edit history etc. Please allow me to write about Serbian sports. This have nothing to do with politics and is not a controvers topics. I'm only come because of sports to wikipedia, only the last months I am moved a little bit to other topics. But my main topic, my beloved topic is sport, this is a topic which interrested me 120%. Please allow me to write about sports in Serbia, why so a hard punishment. I made mistakes in politic topics, but I never hat a problem with sports. You banned me because of my mistakes about controvers politic topics, but why i banned also for sport, although i never made mistakes there and although I was never prosecuted there?I think its right to punish for things who someone done wrong, but I never made mistakes there and i was never prosecuted there. Please allow me to write about sports in Serbia.--Nado158 (talk) 21:11, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
I have no other interest area here and I had to wait a year to get back to improve Serbian sporting articles or update.--Nado158 (talk) 21:15, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
You probably should have thought about that before you transgressed our policies so seriously and ended up at AE. Sports can be very controversial, especially if ethnic slurs or source misuse is involved. Tell you what: Pick any two redlinks (nothing which violates your topic ban) from User:West.andrew.g/Popular redlinks and write articles on the subjects. I expect actual articles, not stubs. Then come back and see me in two months, and we'll discuss it again. KillerChihuahua21:20, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
By all my respect, but I have not done with deliberate errors. I was not aware of the consequences of my error. Others get a warning or a ban on certain topics, and I get a ban on everything. That's not fair. In any civil legal system you will be punished for what you have really done and here? There was never porbleme on Misplaced Pages relating to sports, or business, agriculture, Serbian food or brands, nature etc. I've created stadium sites, player dates updated (goals, transfers, etc.), updated data, where is this controversy? I understand what you mean, but I do not edit the Albanian League or sports. Why do all my work will not be considered positive? Why all this is overlooked? I can not at all in conflict with Albania, because it has nothing to do with Serbian Sports. There is no Serbian-Albanian Football League, etc. Why is it bad if I edit about a Serbian dog, or football data (statistics), or write about a food stamp, or national parks in Serbia? about nature. This is absolutely not about those things for which I was punished. What's bad about it when I add Nemanja Vidić as a remarkable person in Užice because he was born there? Look please here i create for example this small article about Metalac Stadium, improved and create 80% of the Partizan Belgrade article till the section Club records, improved every article about almost evry club and their stadiums in the first and second league (you can ask the users there). I create a article about the Mlekara Subotica dairy. Here, nothing is bad KillerChihuahua. Please, Serbian sport, agriculture, Serbian food or brands, nature etc. have nothing to do with controversial topics with Albania etc. Please allow me, if anything were to arise, I would not take to it and report it to you immediately if you wish, but it will not happen because I think Nature etc. is not controversial. Topics like Organization for Respect and Care for Animals (which is from Serbia), Serbian Spruce, or the dog Šarplaninac and stadiums are not controversial. Please i have good faith intentions. Besied this, what you mean with not stubs? Thank you!--Nado158 (talk) 12:30, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
The reason we make topic bans broad rather than narrow is so you don't misjudge the boundaries and violate it. The way it is now: You can edit anything which has nothing to do with Serbia, Albania, Kosovo. Simple. Not confusing. Now, you can keep leaving long posts here about how good you'll be if I'll just let you write about Serbian football, or you can take my offer above, or you can wait out the 12 months, or you can go back to AE and contest the topic ban. KillerChihuahua13:45, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
KC, I'd like to appeal to you once again to take two factors into account: we already have one Serbian user, User:FkpCascais, who was topic-banned similarly, but after several incidents (three previous smaller blocks over several years), and for only six months rather than a year. I agree that it's easy for them to cross the line, and indeed I was personally involved in a situation where FkpCascais at one point did exactly that, but User:WGFinley was still patient with them and I think the topic-banned user did not transgress further. As I recall, Nado158's behavior was not worse than FkpCascais', so I think it would be best to follow the same standard and at least make the two sanctions match, in order to avoid the impression he's getting treated in a manner that is less fair than someone else in a similar situation. --Joy (talk) 18:42, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
First you're worried it's too narrow, no you're complaining it's too broad. Well, you can't please everybody; there is no sweet spot which will satisfy everyone's idea of an appropriate sanction. There are always people who think you are too hard or too soft. I have a proposal above which will shorten the time by as much as 10 months, to only two months, but both you and he are ignoring that offer. I'm all done talking about this. Puppy has spoken, puppy is done. KillerChihuahua18:48, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
FC == User:FkpCascais. The scope that DeltaQuad had proposed was narrow, because it only involved Kosovo and Albania. --Joy (talk) 08:24, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
I did not ignore the offer, but sorry, I didn't quite understand it, so I asked before what you mean with your statement ACTUAL ARTICLE, NOT STUBS? STUBS? Thank you!--Nado158 (talk) 20:02, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Apologies, I must have missed that question. I mean, more than a couple of sentences and one source. I'm flexible, but I want to see some content, say a couple of paragraphs, several sources, an image would be nice. I'm looking for a serious effort from you to write an article, as opposed to slapping up a short description of the topic. You can read more at Misplaced Pages:Stub - it is an excellent way to start an article, but I'm saying I want to see more. Let me know if you're still unclear. KillerChihuahua20:06, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
I have a question please. It must just be exactly these from you proposed redlinks, or it can also be used redlinks from the last or coming week? Besides this, may I write an own articles (in consultation with you, of course)?For example an animal variety, airplane model, a machine etc? May I suggest two articles?--Nado158 (talk) 16:34, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
I'm willing to be flexible, I gave you that list because they're the most requested articles, but I'm not glued to just that list. What two articles would you like to write? KillerChihuahua16:36, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Well, an article about Transfermarkt.de, one of the largest websites for sports with a focus on football, and the most visited German Sports Page in 2013, International also well known, and the EuroTier, the world's largest exhibition for animal husbandry and management, with over 100,000 visitors from 100 countries. Are you agree?--Nado158 (talk) 21:19, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
I do, sounds good. Nice way for you to get sports in without violating your topic ban, too, so you can use your expertise and edit something which interests you. I applaud your choices. KillerChihuahua21:26, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
I already left a message to Bishonen, asking if the correct word was the one Bishonen applied, Bishonen said yes. The problem is solved. (Slurpy121 (talk) 18:42, 23 February 2013 (UTC))
No, the problem is not solved unless you actually read ENGVAR and cease edit warring over UK.US spelling differences. It is not just about that one single word which Bishonen had already told you several times was correct. It is about not edit warring and violating ENGVAR. If you understand that, then yes it is "solved". If you think it's about that one single edit war, then no, it is not solved. KillerChihuahua20:42, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
I took the edit you removed as more or less just a friendly gesture. I didn't think anything more of it than I would a smiley or other neutrally friendly note. KillerChihuahua03:32, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Arbitration isn't much more than polite way of forcing specialized contributors into semi- or full retirement; it shouldn't ever be on the table unless all other options have been exhausted, and they haven't been here. — C M B J06:18, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
I'm not opening four different Rfc's on editors whose responses to an uninvolved admin warning them was either insults or in one case, asking that I be desysopped. It would be an excercise in futility. An Rfc presumes they care what people say; they clearly don't. I have, however, taken it to RFAR; it is at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests#Tea Party movement / US politics if you wish to make a statement. KillerChihuahua06:25, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
I really don't have much else to say 1:1 since I'm as uninvolved as you are (aside from previously having to deal with one party's shenanigans both as an editor and informal mediator) but I can't see how I'm expected to reconcile this edit conflict in a subsequent comment. There's literally no additional information to reiterate — I just wanted to preclude the off chance that my words might be misinterpreted as anti-ArbCom when they were never intended as such. That, and I noticed a grammatical mistake. — C M B J07:21, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, the one you posted on ArbCom that said the thread had been reopened. I keep missing it when I look for it there. Need new glasses I guess. Malke 2010 (talk) 20:29, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Since no one else commented on the RFC yet, I've gone ahead and reset the terms to reflect your criticism. If you're not OK with that, feel free to revert me. I just think it's a better way to start off. — C M B J00:05, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
No, that's fine with me. In the future, though, don't remove someone else's post. You can simply reply to it, saying "I have changed the verbiage to match your suggestions" or "I have edited the Rfc to reflect your criticism" and leave their post in place. Removing someone else's post, unless it is a personal attack, is almost never a good idea. KillerChihuahua00:13, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
That's what I was going to do, but we've been interacting so closely that I figured you wouldn't mind with full disclosure. — C M B J00:19, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
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Eh, I didn't view it that I added them at all. Others added them, but failed to format the additions correctly. I felt if others were calling for topic bans, then it should be clearly organized so people would see and be able to voice their opinions. It was clerking. That's all. But yes, I know some people did not realize that was what I was doing. Thanks for leaving this note, nice to hear it was clear to at least one editor... and yeah, Springer wishes he had episodes as messed up as that ANI thread. KillerChihuahua04:31, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Actually, now that I think about it, Phaedrial's first run at this sort of thing was shiny and pretty too, she did Today's Star Shines On . So, yay to shiny pretty! KillerChihuahua11:53, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
This is Mr. Chihuahua. KC is in the hospital for testing... she may have had a heart attack. She said to tell everyone she will be back as soon as she can. She apologizes for the bad timing. 71.43.28.155 (talk) 18:59, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
The best to you KC. Including for a quick and complete recovery. All else lately is small stuff and secondary. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 19:08, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Take care - I had my quintuple bypass a few years back now and appreciate the stress you are also undergoing as well. Collect (talk) 20:01, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
All good thoughts, Puppy. Could it possibly be in a way good timing? Your body's clever way of getting you away from stressing about RFAR? Oh.. and stressing about illness instead. No, I guess that won't work. :-( Bishonen | talk20:36, 26 February 2013 (UTC).
Dagnabit .. TY for letting us know Mr. Chihuahua, and KC certainly has all my prayers and best wishes for a very speedy recovery. — Ched : ? 20:38, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
My sincere hopes for a speedy and complete recovery. I am quite shocked and distressed by this turn of events. My best wishes to you and your loved ones in this challenging time. Jusdafax22:27, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Mr Chihuahua is reporting on FB that KC thinks that the hospital food tastes good. This strikes me as a worrying development. ;) Guettarda (talk) 22:31, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Mr. Chihuahua brought me my tablet so I will be available between tests. THANK YOU ALL for all the lovely wishes. Guettarda, almost anything tastes good when you haven't eaten for 9 hours while people take blood and poke you. Puppy (talk) 22:58, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
KillerChihuahua, just found out. Hope all is well. Hospitals are scary not fun places but you are safe there. Feel better and get well. Sending you lots of positive energy. Malke 2010 (talk) 23:55, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
@ KC - wait. Tablet? Details damn it .. we want details. Droid? IPad? Kindle? Windows 8? ... Inquiring minds want to know. Hell - I gave up my "bit" over a damn tablet ... fantastic cursed little things. ... Seriously though KC. I really do appreciate you going to the effort to stay in touch. Obviously you have a huge fan club that cares a great deal. Taking the time to talk to us says it all - WHY you have such a following. You take care of yourself girl - let Mr. KC spoil the heck outta you. — Ched : ? 00:33, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
I was actually a little upset that your husband was "enabling you" while you were in the hospital.....but then I would have demanded my spouse's tablet within the first 5 minutes myself! LOL! Now...seriously, get some rest. Also, ignore my reply to you on my talkpage. You need not concern yourself about it. Knowing that you are ill means a great deal more than my opinion of your involvement in any disputes. Just get well and use the tablet to watch "grumpy cat" videos. they are hilarious.--Amadscientist (talk) 02:20, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Best of luck to you KC, I hope nothing too incredibly serious happened... and hope you aren't subjected to hospital food for too long. Kevin Gorman (talk) 03:05, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Sorry to hear. Let that Chihuahua inside you rest for now to a full recovery and enjoy the time in the sanity of real life. :) -- DQ(ʞlɐʇ)03:46, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Although I get the sentiment, you never want a template for these things. If you have one, it happens to often. Even if it does, I would always prefer to put my own words of personal support for that person. :) KillerChihuahua is no exception. -- DQ(ʞlɐʇ)04:27, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
It was this thing called a "joke". We don't give up our sense of humor when we log in. At least I don't. It was meant to be a light hearted comment, hopefully to make the puppy smile.--Amadscientist (talk) 04:34, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Of course, I was working off the basis that it was a joke, and my reply was more a comment about what you said, not the meaning of what you said. Honestly don't worry about my comment much. I of course love jokes when appropriate :D -- DQ(ʞlɐʇ)08:55, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Whoa...this isn't good to see...we were just having an exchange at my yap page earlier...hope you are okay. Kindest regards.--MONGO05:18, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Very best wishes to you, KC, and I'm glad to know Mr. Chihuahua is staying out of the doghouse and fetching your tablet and so on. Yopienso (talk) 08:39, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Update: it is 4:30 am here. Wish I could answer each and every one of you but for now I will just make a start. Malke: the connection here is dog slow, but that was cute. Mongo: I still can tell bad jokes. I have not lost that skill. Ched: it is a Samsung Galaxy 7, which means TinyScreen. It runs on Android. Wishing now that I'd gotten a 10. Collect:thank you sharing something so personal, it means a lot. Everyone else: thank you, so much! Puppy (talk) 09:34, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
thanks so much to all of you! Gerda, you're right, how serendipitous that we were talking about that just a couple of days ago, and that poem is just what I need! Bishonen: only you, dear, would think of that. Puppy (talk) 18:14, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
I, too, wish you all the best and a speedy recovery! I hope the doctors don't ban you from Misplaced Pages, because it may well be on some list of things contraindicated for people with heart problems :-) Sandstein 14:11, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Test came back, not a heart attack. There is a mass on my thyroid, and my levels are waaay off. They're doing more tests, I'm going to be in the hospital at least another day. Puppy (talk) 16:01, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Good news ... puppy is heart healthy! Hoping for more good news re your "mixed up chems" (that "waaay off" bit). Vsmith (talk) 17:18, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Impressed with your commitment here, editing at hospital lol. But then it's better than TV and I know how boring the confinement can get. Hope you can avoid aggravation and get out of there soon! El duderino19:07, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Yay! That's a relief. Glad you liked the baby video. Put your feet up and enjoy the food. Maybe Mr. Chihuahua could bring in doctor approved take-out. Feel better. Malke 2010 (talk) 19:18, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Dunno about heart healthy, they're doing a stress test in the morning. But not a heart attack. El D, I probably wouldn't be except I did just file an rfar. Malke, GMTA, butthey won't let me. And the soup I had the first night was the last good food I've had. :-( But I hope to be out of here soon. Puppy (talk) 19:32, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
thanks but they've decided it is too risky to give me the stress test before they take care of the rhyroid. My heartbeat is running fast and they're afraid the stress test will give me a heart attavk. So that's off the table for now. Thanks for the advice tho, I'm sure theyll get back to it. Puppy (talk) 22:21, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Add me to the list of folks that are very happy to hear it wasn't a heart attack. Perhaps just your body letting you know it's time to start taking good care of yourself. Thank you very much for the update Puppy; may your leash be long, and your treats plentiful. — Ched : ? 21:34, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Great to know it's going as well as could be expected, KC, keep on mending and get yourself fit and out to where the food is good! Your recent edits show devotion beyond the call of duty. I'm impressed by your plunging into the tea party morass, and very much hope that this is your idea of fun and relaxation, or at any rate a welcome distraction from the hospital environment. However, while getting the editing there detoxed feels beyond my currently tired brain right now, you've flagged up the issues and others will have to come forward and help resolve the problems. Including me, if needed. Will sleep on that, and hope you'll do whatever gives you useful recuperation and rest. . . dave souza, talk22:13, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Please avoid that nasty place called ARBCOM till you're healed up. Even mini-death-dogs are bound to have increased metabolic issues after venturing into that black hole. Get well immediately though!--MONGO00:05, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Shame about the food thing. Now don't be a-scared of the test. It will all work out okay. Just keep saying that in your head. Malke 2010 (talk) 00:35, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
The user has placed a personal attack by threating in http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Medical_uses_of_silver.
"This would be helpful with the likely upcoming WP:ANI discussion about Ryan's tendentious editing. Zad68" I have removed it as a personal attack by threatening. However the original editor has restored it. I also think even if there is a doubt as if its a personal attack per content, being placed on the DRN talk it looks like a personal attack even more. It just came out of nowhere, irrelevant to the current DRN discussion. Thank you.
This user has posted the same sentence on multiple talk pages 'by stalking me' including the irrelant ones like the DRN discussion "FYI I have commented on the relevance of the Leeds in vitro study to Quackwatch's characterization of ingested colloidal silver here. Zad68"
And despite that editor TransporterMan has said: "This DRN talk page is not the venue to further argue the dispute." and my comments that it's not the venue, he continues to engage in the DRN discussion regarding the article context and other editors.
Thank you. Ryanspir (talk) 16:37, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi KC, here's the story: Ryan's involved in this DRN discussion with myself and a few others, the case wasn't going his way, but the case got archived due to inactivity before resolution (Ryan fell ill), Ryan came back and asked for the case to be un-archived. The DRN volunteer, Carrie, was unwilling - see her comment to Ryan here, highlight: "it's now very clear that not one other editor agrees with you or is willing to agree to your request ... This was going to be your final shot, and it hasn't worked. You are not going to get a consensus for this. It's time to drop the stick and back slowly away from the horse carcass." I said to Carrie I'd support de-archiving the case for the purpose of closing it, as "This would be helpful with the likely upcoming WP:ANI discussion about Ryan's tendentious editing." With that, Carrie agreed and dearchived the case. (Exciting tune-in-next-week cliffhanger: In his closure !vote, Ryan agreed to the proposal but also stated "I'll challenge it in formal mediation process.")
Ryan felt my statement about taking this to ANI was a "threat" and edited my comment, I restored my comment and pointed Ryan to WP:TPO for the list of conditions where it's acceptable edit someone else's comment (this isn't one of them), he disagreed, but we then both agreed that an admin should handle it from here, full discussion here. I think Ryan's request is for you to review what's happened and take any action you deem necessary. It would have been nice if he had notified me he was contacting you about this. It's unclear to me why Ryan came to you in particular with this request, maybe you've helped him out with something before? Anyway, sorry to hear you're one sick pup, hopefully the trip to vet did you good. Take care... Zad6817:41, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
It is unclear to me as well, but it has happened before that editors have come to me and I have no recollection of them. Sometimes we've participated in a discussion somewhere I just don't remember, sometimes they've just seen me around. This case seems a little more unusual - I checked our interaction, and we have had one encounter before - in Dec 2012 I warned him I would block him if he continued making threats. It seems you have the situation well in hand; if there is zero support for his view then the DRN should probably remain closed. Thank you for taking the time to explain this situation to me, and for your kind words regarding my current illness. KillerChihuahua17:56, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
New update
At home, on meds, will be going to more tests and lots of follow up visits for a while. Thanks again to everyone who was so kind as to leave well wishes on this page, it means a lot to me. I'm still sick and will be irregular in my editing but at least I'm off the little tablet. KillerChihuahua15:51, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks much. They have me on meds that have the symptoms tamped down while they do the testing/diag/treatment of the causal issues. I am glad to be out of the hospital and back home and back on a real screen instead of the tiny screen of the tablet. Once you open the keyboard on one of those things, you can barely see where you're editing, and navigation was a pain (my touchscreen is a bit wonky.) I'll be off an on, but will muddle along until they get it fixed. KillerChihuahua16:26, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Grand news, a much better place to convalesce or do whatever's best to get yourself well. Keep up the good non-work! (or even keep working if that suits better) . . . dave souza, talk22:52, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
An edit war has once again broken out on this article. I think we need to upgrade the protection level. The controversial nature of the topic makes it a magnet for people with agendas.Evildoer187 (talk) 09:40, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Single-payer healthcare
Hey I know you're busy with the TPM article but some of the same people are causing problems in the Single-payer healthcare article. In the talk page there was a consensus for a particular edit and 3 users (North8000, Thargor Orlando and Arzel) have been edit-warring against it. If you could take a look it would be much appreciated. CartoonDiablo (talk) 18:43, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
Well, when I started the RFAR I listed it as "TPM / US right wing politics" but an Arb changed the name for brevity. Please add a statement to the RFAR with this. KillerChihuahua19:01, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
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