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User:Appletrees showed items should be aligned by alphabets at disambiguity pages though, he revised at his own popularity. his changing doesn't match his own rule. I can't agree with him. --Yuan.C.Lee (talk) 15:56, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yuan.C.Lee has pushed his OWN RULE to this page along with SNU article. Seoul National University has notability among the university and I haven't said anything abut East Sea. If I follow your rule, I said I need to change Dokdo placed first. And please don't insult me with your absurd claims.--Appletrees (talk) 16:10, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I looked at the edit history and archives, and I still don't understand why the Sea of Japan is ordered first in this list. That's only referred to as the "East Sea" in the context of Korea as a direct translation of the Korean-language term, which is not used in English. Something similar naturally occurs with "East Sea" to refer to the East China Sea when talking about China. And lately Vietnam is trying to push "East Sea" for the South China Sea to justify its territorial claims on islands that China administers there. But in terms of what native English-speakers are more likely to hear, it's the Baltic Sea, Dead Sea, or Mare Oriental. Is it about.com-style defeatism in the face of a VANK-like stained disruption campaign? Shrigley (talk) 17:43, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
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East Sea → East Sea (disambiguation) – Primary use seems to be to refer to the Sea of Japan, so East Sea should redirect there Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 22:58, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
- Oppose the East China Sea is quite likely as well, and English usage in Vietnam shows the South China Sea as the East Sea. Since it's only South Korea, which is not an English speaking locality using "East Sea" as the Sea of Japan, this is not an English-locality usage. Further, the Atlantic Ocean is also referred to as the East Sea or Eastern Sea, in poetry and other uses in North America. And the Pacific Ocean is also called the East Sea in poetry and other uses from ANZ, and China and Japan. -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 00:11, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Oppose. East Sea is totally ambiguous in English, and needs context to pin down. In East Asian English-language usage alone, East Sea could refer to the East China Sea for Chinese, to the Sea of Japan for Koreans, to the Pacific Ocean for Japanese, and to the South China Sea for Vietnamese. Also, the Baltic Sea is referred to the East Sea in Germany, Sweden, and Finland. Shrigley (talk) 00:31, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Emmette Hernandez Coleman, what evidence do you have that Sea of Japan is the primary use? Qwyrxian (talk) 00:41, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- That was my understanding, but it would seem that I'm mistaken. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 01:14, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Oppose There are at least three equally strong contenders, which is more than enough for us not to just pick one over the others. I am also, considering the area of interest, more than a little suspicious of nationalism, or the appearance of nationalism. Sven Manguard Wha? 00:44, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
- Oppose No evidence provided, change can be rejected without comment. TippyGoomba (talk) 02:41, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
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