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Scope

Problem

Quality editors are adding and removing infoboxes across a number of articles including, but not limited to, Classical music composers. This is at times reaching the point of edit warring which can lead to discontent, a lack of harmony, and even blocks and discretionary sanctions. A secondary problem may be the concept that there is a disagreement on community consensus vs. local consensus. (an agreement developed at a project level)

Proposed solution

To have a discussion to determine the best way forward, hopefully just an informal agreement and consensus, but if a formalized WP:RFC needs to be presented to the global community, then so be it. I'm not a big fan of instruction creep myself, and would rather not get into even more policy setting that reduces any flexibility, but the constant bickering isn't an option either. IF a "formal" RfC with "options" absolutely needs to be created, then I suppose that can be worked out here and we'll draft one.

Viewpoints Discussion

Pro-infobox

  • (placeholder: may expand on this later) I like to see an infobox as a quick reference guide to a topic when I don't have the time or desire to read the entire article. — Ched :  ?  16:25, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Con-infobox

  • If an article is just a stub, an infobox can be a distraction as far as formatting. Even if an article is further developed, an infobox can disrupt the formatting of a page.
  • Can make the article difficult to view on small devices such as phones and tablets. However, I personally think that as Misplaced Pages is primarily a computer presentation, then the solution here is the development of various apps to provide some sort of screen reader rather than to remove function from the full platform. — Ched :  ?  16:25, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
  • something something metadata (someone else familiar with this argument can fill this in)
  • Infoboxes oversimplify information and/or mislead readers
  • Infoboxes focus on quantifiable details rather than the most significant facts about a subject
  • There is an inherent tension between the desire for a short-and-quick reference (=short box) and the desire for more metadata (=long box)
  • They're just plain ugly
  • Infoboxes present a barrier to editing for newbies

Possible items to be addressed

  1. the infobox in general - good or bad (should an infobox be considered default or status-quo?)
  2. info box at Composers and or Classical music projects
  3. local consensus vs. community consensus
  4. input of major contributor
  • is the term "infobox" correct, or is the term ??? ...

Possible solutions

Discussion

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