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Is the GA bot ignoring me?
Ever since my review of Saitō Hajime (Rurouni Kenshin), the GA bot has neglected to add that review to my review count. When I started to review Itachi Uchiha, the GA bot hasn't edited on that article once and my review count is still at four. The GA bot is pretty active though, and Carolina Panthers' review ended later than mine yet the bot was able to tag it. Did I make a mistake somewhere? DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 23:11, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
- I had the same issue when I reviewed The Road Not Taken. I never found out exactly why my review wasn't counted but my guess was that when the bot was updating the GA nominations page, my pass of the article was marked as "Maintenance" in the edit summary, instead of being marked as "Passed The Road Not Taken". I don't know if the bot's edit summary makes a difference in a user's review count, but this was the only explanation I could come up with. //Gbern3 (talk) 17:55, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. I'll try reviewing another article to see if the GA bot will react. Its been two reviews since the bot did anything for me. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 02:41, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
Reviewed Vincent Valentine. Bot didn't transclude review, update my count, or put up the GA icon. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 09:33, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- There are two points to cover here. Firstly, the GA bot count does not appear to be based on completed reviews, its based on the number of review pages (/GAx) created. So if I were to create a review page, e.g. Talk:Foo/GA1, my count would either be set to one or would be increased by one. Passing or failing a nomination does not effect the review count. Secondly, I've also had those problems with "passes" quite a few times and I think I've discovered the reason. The instructions on how to pass a article are quite specific: an article under review has a GA "string", say such as "''{{GA nominee|19:19, 26 April 2013 (UTC)|nominator=] (])|page=1|subtopic=Biology and medicine|status=onreview|note=}}''", note the Page No. comes before the Subtopic. However, to pass an article, the GA "string" has to be partially reversed to {{GA|~~~~~|topic=|page=}} . It seems that if the article is "passed" by setting {{GA|~~~~~|page=|topic=}} the GA bot ignores it as a "pass" and just does the "maintenance mode" operation described above. Pyrotec (talk) 16:23, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, but I did create the review pages and I ordered the GA pass like the first example. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 22:32, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- Same here. I reversed the string to pass it and I also created the /GA1 page, so if the count is based on page creation then my count should have gone up. //Gbern3 (talk) 08:47, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, but I did create the review pages and I ordered the GA pass like the first example. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 22:32, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
- There are two points to cover here. Firstly, the GA bot count does not appear to be based on completed reviews, its based on the number of review pages (/GAx) created. So if I were to create a review page, e.g. Talk:Foo/GA1, my count would either be set to one or would be increased by one. Passing or failing a nomination does not effect the review count. Secondly, I've also had those problems with "passes" quite a few times and I think I've discovered the reason. The instructions on how to pass a article are quite specific: an article under review has a GA "string", say such as "''{{GA nominee|19:19, 26 April 2013 (UTC)|nominator=] (])|page=1|subtopic=Biology and medicine|status=onreview|note=}}''", note the Page No. comes before the Subtopic. However, to pass an article, the GA "string" has to be partially reversed to {{GA|~~~~~|topic=|page=}} . It seems that if the article is "passed" by setting {{GA|~~~~~|page=|topic=}} the GA bot ignores it as a "pass" and just does the "maintenance mode" operation described above. Pyrotec (talk) 16:23, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
What happens if I try to edit User:GA bot/Stats? I should be at 7 or 8 now. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 02:34, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
- I did that once, since GA Bot also ignores me, then had everything end up double counted when the bot later went back and added everything up. Resolute 03:15, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, you should be able to update it manually. How long ago did that happen? I did a manual run through awhile ago to try and correct some of the counts, so that might have been what caused it. --Chris 11:25, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- Good to know there is a workaround. I just manually updated it to fix both my and DragonZero's count. //Gbern3 (talk) 19:30, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, you should be able to update it manually. How long ago did that happen? I did a manual run through awhile ago to try and correct some of the counts, so that might have been what caused it. --Chris 11:25, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
The problem here is that you are changing the status to onhold before GA bot has a chance to do anything. GA bot only updates your count if it also changes the status from new to onreview. Once the status is onhold or onreview GA bot doesn't update your count, so that it doesn't update twice for the same review. So if you wait for GA bot to change the status to onreview, it should update the review count. Sorry, it's a known bug, but it requires quite a bit of restructuring to fix and I simply haven't had the time to do that yet. --Chris 11:25, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- Oh Thanks! I always thought I had to change the status myself after creating the review page. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 05:48, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Talk:Donghak Peasant Revolution
Why is this article not on the nominees list, when it's been nominated since April 16?--Seonookim (What I've done so far) (I'm busy here) (Tell me your requests) 07:00, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- Could be because the template was within another template. I've changed that. If the bot doesn't pick it up, try removing the template and then adding it back. J Milburn (talk) 10:48, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Talk:New York State Route 167/GA1
The review of Talk:New York State Route 167/GA1 has stalled and I do not feel I am able to reach a consensus with the nominator and complete the review. I request that another reviewer takes this one over. Thanks, SpinningSpark 22:23, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Where are links for reviews?
I can't find link to page where reviews are going on. I mean, not only for the article nominated by me but for any article appearing on nomination page. It just says 'start review' and take me to blank page. I am completely unaware of GA procedure. neo (talk) 19:34, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
- The page is blank until a reviewer starts work on the article; this can take anywhere from a few days to a few months. -- Khazar2 (talk) 20:10, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
- I hope review of Palak Muchhal starts in a week. I may not be on net or much active after 31 May for 3-4 months. Thanks! neo (talk) 08:41, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- If you won't be here between that time, go to the articles talk page, and edit the "|note=" parameter in the GA nomination template and say that you (as the nominator) may not be able to respond to a review for a certain amount of time. Also, you should contact another editor that may be willing to address any issues if a review is initiated during the time that you will be away.--Dom497 (talk) 13:44, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- I will do it when I am sure about my absence. And I hope that review starts soon. This is my first GA nomination. Hope to learn from mistakes (if any) in article. Thanks. neo (talk) 14:07, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- If you won't be here between that time, go to the articles talk page, and edit the "|note=" parameter in the GA nomination template and say that you (as the nominator) may not be able to respond to a review for a certain amount of time. Also, you should contact another editor that may be willing to address any issues if a review is initiated during the time that you will be away.--Dom497 (talk) 13:44, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- I hope review of Palak Muchhal starts in a week. I may not be on net or much active after 31 May for 3-4 months. Thanks! neo (talk) 08:41, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
A Deleted Nomination
One of my students created an article, Haynes Academy, nominated it for GA on April 8, then, after waiting for a couple weeks a would-be reviewer simply deleted the nomination on the talk page without creating /GA1, without further information on the talk page, and without leaving the nominator/contributor a message on his/her user page. This strikes me as counter-productive newbie-biting and can't imagine it fits in with GAN procedure. ...But I'm not sure. I plan to talk to the editor directly, but do not feel experienced enough with the review processes to know that this is entirely irregular, so I'm checking here first.
For context, I'm teaching a class in which students create articles and work to bring them up to GA status. In addition to the course project, students were offered extra credit for creating another article on their own time according to the same standards. Unlike the primary assignments, I did not keep tabs on or spend time in class on individuals' extra credit and, as it turns out, didn't even know about some of them until the last days of the semester. It's too late now to resolve this. It would seem the student gave up upon removal of the GAN without feedback on what to do next. --RM395 (talk) 17:55, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- Just to be clear, I'm not inquiring as to why it doesn't meet the criteria. I don't doubt there are many issues, but it would've been nice to have at least a quickfail explanation to go by.--RM395 (talk) 17:56, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- I agree that this seems both against policy and counterproductive. Quickfails should have at least a few sentences of explanation, and should be archived on a GA subpage for future reference. Let me ping the editor in question for comment. -- Khazar2 (talk) 17:58, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, User:Grammarxxx should have informed nominator why article fails GAN. It is blunt to simply remove GAN from talk page. neo (talk) 18:16, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- The reasoning behind my nomination removal was that, like another article the user nominated, had many of the same issues. Instead of initiating the review and quickfailing it I was hopeful the user would just look at the review of the other article and learn from it. I didn't think it would be such an issue, as it's been done to me before. Grammarxxx 18:39, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- I've reinstated the nomination. Hopefully someone can provide an actual review with pointers of where the article needs to be improved. As far as I can see, problems with the article should not be dealt with like this- only procedural issues (such as a withdrawn nomination, withdrawing a bad faith nomination or a regular contributor reverting an over-enthusiastic drive-by nomination) would justify removing the nomination outright. J Milburn (talk) 18:41, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)Sorry to hear it's been done to you, Grammarxxx--it's definitely not standard practice, and you should feel free to renominate the article in question so that it can get an actual review (even if a quickfail). You can see instructions for how to fail an article at WP:GAN/I. I'd recommend that even if an article has identical problems to those you pointed out in another review, you should still either note what those problems were or link to the other review, so that other editors interested in the article in the future will have a record that the article was nominated before and your suggestions for it; otherwise, it's hard for other editors to keep track of what's happening. Thanks for reviewing. -- Khazar2 (talk) 18:47, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- The reasoning behind my nomination removal was that, like another article the user nominated, had many of the same issues. Instead of initiating the review and quickfailing it I was hopeful the user would just look at the review of the other article and learn from it. I didn't think it would be such an issue, as it's been done to me before. Grammarxxx 18:39, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
Stalled review
After my GAN for Confusion (album) was picked up on May 1 by Idiotchalk, the reviewer said at the review page that they would do it over the next two days. I left a message at their talk page on May 16 asking about the delay. Should I ask renominate the article? Dan56 (talk) 22:26, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Review shopping
At Talk:Maria Sharapova/GA5, I failed the article largely for extensive violation of WP:IC. The nominator contests whether that page is sufficient violation of WP:WIAGA for failure, noting that a general reference at the bottom of the article is a citation for every paragraph. I reminded him that IC begins by saying " Many Misplaced Pages articles contain inline citations: they are required for Featured Articles, Good Articles, and A-Class Articles." I offered a WP:GAR discussion. Instead the nominator promptly renominated the article without fixing the problem.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:36, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
- Well, if the primary rationale for the fail was " At a minimum, each paragraph needs a citation and each fact should be cited", I support the renomination. The GA criteria are quite explicit that only some statements need inline citations, while WP:IC is not a GA criteria. This is listed as a common mistake at WP:GACN, the explanatory essay linked from the GA criteria. Is it possible to offer a criteria-based rationale for your failing this one? That might help clear up the situation. -- Khazar2 (talk) 00:47, 22 May 2013 (UTC)