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Any other sources?

All the sources are western media coverages. Furthermore, no mention of Yeltsin, even though everything began under him--96.250.107.241 (talk) 04:58, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

As I understand the sources, the specific term "mafia state" is used when referring to the Putin era, "in which officials , oligarchs and organised crime are bound together to create a 'virtual mafia state'", which is distinct from the Yeltsin era, although the Russian mafia of course also existed back then and although Yeltsin's government wasn't perfect either. By non-western, I suppose you mean Russian sources. Free/independent media in Russia are routinely harrassed and journalists even killed in some cases, and a state-controlled Russian source wouldn't be a reliable source for anything else than the position of the Russian government/the Putin regime in this particular case. In any case, here is a Russian source too: Moscow Times Tataral (talk) 02:40, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Yeltsin's government wasn't perfect either? Maybe Yeltsin's government wasn't government? "Free/independent media in Russia are routinely harrassed and journalists even killed in some cases" ... look at the statistics, you'll see journalist murders under Yeltsin weren't less, though many were not registered and there were less journalists that time. Please, if your emotions drive you, respect emotions of other peoples, or maybe let's drop off paranoia at all? The article needs to be rewritten to make understand mafia state is primarily an INSULT for any country, as it has neither legal status nor scientific definition, along with empires of evil and so on.--213.208.170.194 (talk) 11:17, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Why don't YOU find all of the appropriate information (such as about previous Russian government regime also being a "mafia state", or at least being a "founding father" of this definition) with an appropriate (reliable and neutral) sources to back that information up and then add all of that to this article, instead of simply complaining about "insults" and "paranoia" (you forgot to add in another mandatory word that is often used in such discussions - "Russophobia")? The article is currently semi-protected, but you can always become a registered auto-confirmed user and try to improve the Misplaced Pages for everyone with your work... Unless, of course, your only goal is to simply portray certain government regime in an absolutely positive light, in which case you probably shouldn't do that (unfortunately, there are already plenty of such users here... fortunately, most of their edits are easily to spot and revert). Rndomuser (talk) 02:12, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Wider meaning of the term and global perspective

I've tried to describe the wider meaning of the term, but the article still needs expansion and more global perspective. The way how the original version tried to present the subject term was rather inappropriate. GreyHood 22:21, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Speaking about something like this (edit summary), I mist tell that it is about Russia, and it is about any other states that have been described in multiple WP:RS as "Mafia states". My very best wishes (talk) 13:15, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

To whomever person that is trying to vandalize this and other articles using TeliaSonera IP ranges

Please stop. You tried to vandalize this (and other articles) using IP ranges such as 90.236.xxx.xx and 95.199.xxx.xx . Your edits were reversed. Now it looks like you're trying to do this using new range 95.195.2xx.xx , as well as 95.199.xx.xxx , belonging to same exact ISP... Which again was reversed. Not to mention VERY similar "strange" (the editor tries to revert his own edits several times in rapid succession) edits by now-banned user Peterzor, in this same exact article... I don't know who you are or why are you doing this - but please stop. This is not helpful to anyone. If you have obsessive-compulsive or any other mental disorder - please find another outlet for it, other than Misplaced Pages itself. Thank you for understanding. 173.68.110.16 (talk) 22:39, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

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