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June 2013

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Misplaced Pages, as you did at Talk:Morgellons, you may be blocked from editing. Lay off the personal attacks NOW. Dbrodbeck (talk) 22:35, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Final appeal

Drgao, this is a final appeal to you to please stop your disruptive behavior at Talk:Morgellons, and in particular the repeated violations of Misplaced Pages's policy regarding civility, policy against personal attacks, and guideline regarding disruptive editing. This behavior and the many warnings from fellow editors against it can be seen in the following diffs:

• Drgao - linked to off-site attack page (see WP:WIAPA) diff
  • Dbrodbeck - WP:AGF warning diff
  • Zad68 - remove external link, pointed to WP:WIAPA diff
  • Dbrodbeck - WP:IDHT warning diff
  • Scray - WP:IDHT warning diff
• Drgao - personal attack "Scray, if you don't have sufficient grasp of the finer points of logic (as appears to be the case), then go find a friend who does" diff
  • Scray - personal attack "Your personal attacks on this page have gone far enough. By WP policy, we must aim any negative comments toward edits, not the editor." diff
• Drgao - personal attack "If you properly consider the issue I have raised — and if necessary, speak to any acquaintances you have who are more familiar with logic — then perhaps we can proceed in a more friendly tone" diff
  • Scray - incivility results in disruption "I'm done with you" diff
• Drgao - personal attack diff
  • Dbrodbeck - personal attack reverted diff
  • Dbrodbeck - NPA warning (later blanked without response) diff
• Drgao - "You are wasting my time providing these logically flawed, ill-thought out answers." diff
  • Dbrodbeck - NPA warning "I would appreciate you laying off the personal attacks" diff
• Drgao - combative attitude "I have demolished your argument ... Do you have any other arguments to offer, or do you finally give in, and concede?" diff
  • Dbrodbeck - "This is a collaborative project that operates using consensus. Consensus is against you. Move on." diff
  • Garrondo - NPA warning "Drgao tone crosses the personal attack line way too often" diff
• Drgao - 'I am not the only one here that make personal comment ... Dbrodbeck's comments, thrice made on this page, suggest that he is implying "we don't like strangers around here, and we certainly are aren't going to accommodate them". Dbrodbeck is making the cardinal sin in Misplaced Pages: thinking he owns the article' diff
  • Dbrodbeck - "I would appreciate you removing those personal attacks." diff
• Dgrao - struck comments as requested, good constructive comment diff
  • Zad68 - praise for good, constructive comment diff
  • Dbrodbeck - "The problems with these refs have been pointed out to you, if you don't get it that is your problem." diff
• Drgao - personal attack "No, the problems with your arguments, Dbrodbeck, have been amply pointed out to you, and it you who is slow on understanding." diff
  • Scray - "The article is neutral with respect to high-quality sources." diff
• Drgao - "Don't give me your smokescreen twaddle Scray. The article needs to be neutral with respect to reliable sources. As it stands, it is not neutral with respect to reliable sources, largely because the editors appear to be biased." diff
  • BullRangifer - AGF, NPA warnings "Drgao, if you wish to succeed here and not get blocked, you'll have to stop violating policy. A very important one is to assume good faith (AGF). Denigrating other editors and accusing them of (what they may view as) your own behavior and motives doesn't help matters. Use more neutral language and discuss content, not editors." diff
• Drgao - accusing editors of not being "honest people" who "manipulate" like "clever lawyers", asks how to sanction diff
  • Dbrodbeck - "Another lovely personal attack. If you want to report someone you take it to WP:ANI." diff
  • BullRangifer - NPA warning, "take it to WP:ANI", "You've made this a very personal matter" diff
• Drgao - accusations of lawyering diff
  • Dbrodbeck - NPA warning, "take it to WP:ANI" diff
• WP:IDHT problem: diff
• WP:BITE problem with personal attack - "If you are too lazy to properly indent your comments on this talk page (margin indentation is performed using colons ::::), Mr user 137.111.13.200, you'll no doubt be too lazy to think clearly too." diff

I do mean this to be a final appeal, in that if the issues evinced continue, they will likely result in a discussion regarding your editing behavior at WP:ANI with a request that you be blocked and/or directed not to edit in this subject area any more. The WP:ANI discussion will look pretty much exactly like this mesage, I'm hoping with the opportunity to address the issues being presented, it won't have to go to WP:ANI.

Drgao, I think you are very well-educated in this subject area and have much to offer Misplaced Pages's readers, but for the readers to benefit you have to remain focused only on the sources and content, listen to the policy-based arguments other editors are bringing, and don't take a simple content discussion so personally. Please reconsider your approach to collaborating with your fellow editors at the article. Zad68 03:57, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

OK, I will try to avoid ad hominem strikes, and battle only in the arena of the actual subject matter. Drgao (talk) 04:45, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Drgao, please note that the word you just used ("battle") is a direct link to a section of Misplaced Pages policy that you should read carefully because your statement in this context is direct evidence that you're violating that policy. I wish you well and hope that you will begin to edit constructively. -- Scray (talk) 12:34, 19 June 2013 (UTC)