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Please note that I do not respond to uncivilized threats from admins or other editors... =//= Johnny Squeaky 00:48, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Popular culture

Please do not keep changing 'Popular Culture' headings to 'Trivia'. They are not the same thing. Some Popular Culture content is substantive, not trivial, as supported by references. Misplaced Pages is a collaborative community. Continuous edit warring may result in being blocked. Span (talk) 12:48, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

In fact, usually they are the same thing. "In Popular Culture" is used as a synonym for "Trivia" by people who feel the name "Trivia" is too down-scale for Misplaced Pages, while they are still perfectly happy to include content that any reasonable person would classify as... Trivia! Also, please note that the Misplaced Pages "Manual of Style" does not require the removal (or the use of silly synonyms) of Trivia sections, indeed the word "discouraged" is not used in the section at all. =//= Johnny Squeaky 02:39, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

I wonder could you explain why you think that the section headed "Popular Culture" in the Amon Goeth article should instead be described as "Trivia"? What exactly is "trivial" about Amon Goeth's portayal in popular media? I agree that "In Popular Culture" may be synonymous with "Trivia". But not in all cases. And not in this case, I think. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:59, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

IMDB as a Source

It's ironic that Misplaced Pages says that IMDB is unreliable as a source because its content is user submitted... =//= Johnny Squeaky 06:48, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism?

It was not vandalism, it was a mistake. Two editors have tried to engage you in discussion and you continue to disregard what we are saying. Span (talk) 21:08, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

If *you* wish to discuss this issue, do it in the right place, a few sections above - and in a CIVIL manner, I do not respond to unpleasant assholes "editors" with WikiEgos. And, are you trying to have dialog? Or are you toting water for other editors with axes? Speak for yourself, not other "editors". Thanks for your input. =//= Johnny Squeaky 21:20, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

I have been entirely civil and it would evident that we have been trying to dialogue with you if did not constantly blank the page of our comments. You are the one making personal attacks. And I am not speaking for anyone else, I am referring to the blanked comments of Andy and myself. You now have at least three editors taking issue with your editing practice. "Toting water for other editors with axes". I have no idea what this means. Span (talk) 22:43, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

June 2013

Hello, I'm Andy Dingley. I noticed that you made a comment that didn't seem very civil, so it has been removed. Misplaced Pages needs people like you and me to collaborate, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you.

I do not regard being described as an "asshole", either myself or other editors, on your talk page as acceptable and striking it out is a rather pathetic attempt to pretend that it is somehow acceptable to use such terms. Likewise your blanking of their comments as "vandalism".

Several editors have expressed concern about your unwarranted blanking of sections as "trivia". Repeats of either this, or your attacks on other editors, will be escalated to WP:ANI Andy Dingley (talk) 21:42, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Andy, I'm not sure where you got the idea I called you an "asshole", I just don't see that anywhere. Can you provide a reference where I called you an "asshole"? Not really sure what you're talking about, but really, I think you and "Span" need to step back and take a deep breath. I really think you need to take a look at your own ego trip and personal motivations in "pounding" my talk page with such unkind and quite frankly, aggressive comments. Seriously, Andy, I'm sure you can round up an Admin to "slap" me for you, but really, what you need to do is step back and take a deep breath and devote your energies to something worthwhile. By the way, I am not really impressed with WikiLawyering, really you should make your case with common sense, if you can. Listen, "Andy", if you can not be a gentleman, don't post on my Talk Page again. I'll simply delete it without reading it, your efforts wasted. By far the best way to work out disputes is to have CIVIL dialog. If you can't do that, go gripe someplace else. =//= Johnny Squeaky 21:52, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

How is this not civil dialogue? Span (talk) 22:48, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

The suggestion that I have called Mr. Andy an "asshole" when in fact there is absolutely no evidence of that is uncivil and provocative. It is unsuitable dialog for discussion here. Also, Spang, I will not "spar" with you. This is the end of this subject, at least here on this page. =//= Johnny Squeaky 22:58, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Andy Dingley (talk) 23:02, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Sir, if you perceive that to be directed at you, perhaps you know something I don't. Your name is never directly connected with that comment, which is obviously a generality. =//= Johnny Squeaky 23:05, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if it was directed at me, or at any other editor. It's not acceptable behaviour on your part. I also note that you're highly critical of the behaviour of other editors, particularly on your talk page. Your own behaviour doesn't even meet the standards that you demand from others. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:19, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Amon Goeth

I wonder could you explain why you think that the section headed "Popular Culture" in that article should instead be described as "Trivia"? What exactly is "trivial" about Amon Goeth's portayal in popular media? I also see that your User page has a note, dated 3 April 2013, which says: "This User is no longer active due to aggressively unfriendly editors / admins with serious WP:OWN issues." But it seems that you are quite active, so you might like to review that advice. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:15, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Is that a threat of some kind? A suggestion that if I don't clam up, you'll do something? How unkind, ungentlemanly, and really, uncivilized. Clearly the idea of Misplaced Pages being inclusive is something that you do not embrace. =//= Johnny Squeaky 22:34, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

I wonder could you explain why you think that the section headed "Popular Culture" in that article should instead be described as "Trivia"? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:37, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Please see the section above, which answers most of your questions. "In Popular Culture" is a synonym for "Trivia", tidbits of datum that apparently can not be fitted anywhere else, there is little difference. If the content of "In Popular Culture" was *not* "trivia", it would be integrated into other more appropriate formal sections. Again, as you can see, there is already a section of "Talk" on this page for your inquiry, and that is the most appropriate place to ask me questions about that subject. =//= Johnny Squeaky 22:49, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

I was also wondering what previous experience you might have had here at Misplaced Pages, as you do not seem to be editing as a typical "new editor" might be expected to. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:54, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

My edit history is a matter of record. =//= Johnny Squeaky 23:00, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

I see, just the one record then? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:05, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

I agree that "In Popular Culture" may be synonymous with "Trivia". But not in all cases. And not in this case. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:55, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

I respect your opinion and will not change it again on that article. =//= Johnny Squeaky 23:02, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. That's very gentlemanly of you. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:04, 23 June 2013 (UTC)